'Read a Click and Clack column today in which they vehemently deride
sucking oil changes. They also imply that garages who charge for
sucking are scamming. Obviously they don't know that it's the preferred
way to change MB oil, removing more oil than by draining. They're concerned
that it
Ill bet that isn't what you intended to say. :-)
Don
On 5/10/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... sucking removes more than sucking - removing drain plugs on them ...
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Make a small loan, Make a big difference -
Your symptoms at first sounded like a broken torque converter but if the
tranny has a little bit of power than it is not what happened to my 240D.
Basically I was at a light and went to take off when nothing happened.
Engine was fine but the car would not move forward or back. It turned out
Loosen the mounts and jack the tranny to the side. With like trickery
it has been done before on 123's and 126'es.
On 5/10/07, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your symptoms at first sounded like a broken torque converter but if the
tranny has a little bit of power than it is not what happened
What wilton is saying, is ceawling under the car and removing the
drain pl sucks.
On 5/10/07, Zaphod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ill bet that isn't what you intended to say. :-)
Don
On 5/10/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... sucking removes more than sucking - removing
I've always loved a warm cockle.
Sounds like you did what was needed to protect yourself. Better $100 than
the price of a car you would have to spend $ on.
You did well.
BillR
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89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
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Not mine, ect. If I didn't have one already, I'd consider it
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Blehk (gag)boring
I'd rather drive a 20 yr old MB than a new honda. The liberty was
interesting, if they had only used an OM616, or at least a 601/602
My first encounter with a honda (cvcc) was when I was plowing snow
long ago, and the female owner was too arrogant to move it
They sell them all over the rest of the world. I never found out
what engine they used though. I saw a pretty good number in Germany,
last trip.
At 02:28 PM 5/10/2007, you wrote:
now a $20K long caravan with a bluetec would get my attention!
I would be there to buy the one next in line! A
Interesting? a Diesel ML at last in the US, .. THAT is
interesting!! Bluetec Diesel...is interesting!! not as
reliable imho, as mechanical injection, but the fuel economy
certainly IS interesting!
At 08:29 PM 5/10/2007, you wrote:
Since all M R classes are 4-matic,
Air America pilots seek Federal benefits
Imagine if you worked as a pilot for an outfit that was actually a secret
project of the Central Intelligence Agency -- shouldn't you be eligible for a
federal pension when it comes time to retire? That's what pilots and others who
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:49 PM
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When my wife got home she sheepishly admitted that
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BH4uafmnQ
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the torque converter has a couple of ears which engage into the tranny
which sheared off. Thus the torque converter would just spin.
Those are the drive for the front pump. The main torque output
is through the center shaft. No pump == no hydraulic pressure ==
no go. They get snapped off
I'd take the old Cobra. Maybe that's just me.
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Okay between the rust issues and the fit and finish of the later cars,
I
am wondering what sort of Mercedes I should get next
86-87 300SDLNice ones cost TOO much...
It seems like the best Mercedes made were all 1991 and prior. What's a
guy to do who wants to drive Mercedes, but
On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:09:41 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
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Well I might sell my SDL, but Im afraid you probably wouldnt want to pay
as much as I would want.
How much would you want?
Craig
Nice to see a sample of the stuff you sell. I'll be sure to keep you in
mind for the new to me '88 300E.
Ed
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I am 17% stoopider than average
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:09:41 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
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Well I might sell my SDL, but Im afraid you probably wouldnt want to pay
as much as I would want.
How much would you want?
Craig
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:48 PM
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I am 17% stoopider than average
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So, tell me again, how much of a discount is Ford giving to returning vets?
Or are they just cashing in.
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Best Ford commercial ever
Regardless, it's a great commercial.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Ford
supposedly i'm 60.1% smarter than average - of course, this is after a few
beers...
On 5/11/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I is .6% stooopidar than your average bear
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I'm 10.4% smarter than average - maybe I should try again after a few beers?
Thanks,
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:16 AM
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IT'S CRAZY PRICE DAY HERE AT CRAZY KALEBS USED AUTOMOBILE EMPORIUM. COME ON
DOWN FOR A FREE BBQ AND FACE PAINTING FOR THE KIDDIES. IF I DON'T HAVE WHAT
YOU WANT I WILL SEARCH EBAY UNTIL I FIND A BARGAIN FOR YOU MY FRIEND. YES
SIRREY HERE AT CRAZY KALEBS WE SPECIALISE IN HIGH MILEAGE, DIESEL
got me a 92 300D - it's for sale at the right price. And I gotta move in a
year.
On 5/11/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IT'S CRAZY PRICE DAY HERE AT CRAZY KALEBS USED AUTOMOBILE EMPORIUM. COME
ON
DOWN FOR A FREE BBQ AND FACE PAINTING FOR THE KIDDIES. IF I DON'T HAVE
WHAT
YOU
wilton strickland wrote:
Anybody know if dipstick tubes in other engines reach bottom of pan
like MB?
I can only vouch for certain that the multitude of Chevy small-block
V-8s that I have worked on do _not_.
I'm pretty sure the `72 Toyota did not.
I think the Ford I-6 did not.
The John
Very few cars have dipstick tubes that run all the way to the bottom of the
pan. In most cases, the dipstick tube is just pressed into a flange on the
block.
My Grandfather's old Farmall tractor did not have a dipstick either. You
checked the oil by opening 2 valves on the side of the block. If
Well I was going to say a lot more about big corporations using a war to
flog cars but seeing that political discussion is not allowed on this forum
I won't.
It's just funny that they didn't show a vet with a missing arm, leg or worse
come home.
Perhaps next time around they'll show a flag
So what's a genius like you doing hanging around with morons like us?
Then again after a few beers I am very good looking, can sing, dance and my
wit just charms the ladies completly off their feet.
Then I wake up with a hangover.
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From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL
I'm also 60.1% smarter than average..maybe we're cousins?
Jeff Zedic
Nobody told me it was timed. It said I am 46% smarter, but spending a few
weeks in Pakistan helped some [as did being old] and obviously I am not as I
missed a bunch when they just disappeared from the screen ...
BillR
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oh, for the vito in the US!
Loren Faeth
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The Vito is not that greatclick on the link
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This is a better choice than a Vito...the Viano
21.5% smarter here -- but this is before the morning cup of tea ---
On 5/11/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nobody told me it was timed. It said I am 46% smarter, but spending a few
weeks in Pakistan helped some [as did being old] and obviously I am not as I
missed a bunch when they just
4.9% smarter than average..Yeah, ok. Whatever.
Mike
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intelligent in some areas, dumb in others. but mainly i'm on the academic
team here at ohio state, so my trivia knowledge is better than ever.
Knowledge is pretty subjective.
On 5/11/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
21.5% smarter here -- but this is before the morning cup of tea ---
On
I wonder if I go to my local Ford dealer and flash my Navy ID, how good of a
deal they'd cut me on a new Cobra.
On 5/11/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I was going to say a lot more about big corporations using a war to
flog cars but seeing that political discussion is not
BBBWAAAAAHHHAAA!
Mike
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car
IT'S CRAZY PRICE DAY HERE
Right now Ford, GM Chrysler will do whatever it takes to sell a car.
Thanks,
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:12 AM
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Subject:
Sunil Hari wrote:
I wonder if I go to my local Ford dealer and flash my Navy ID, how good of a
deal they'd cut me on a new Cobra.
GT500?
$500 with your student ID. Seems to be selling for MSRP plus $1300 gas guzzler
tax.
I'd wait, no need to pay through the nose. No one will remember or
good info. i've never been in a vito. Last time I was in Germany
was 03, so I was not aware of the new model. I have seen the Vitos
around in Europe, and I always thought it was a good alternative to
the dodge caravan.
At 07:23 AM 5/11/2007, you wrote:
oh, for the vito in the US!
I'm just kidding - there are very few domestic cars I'd buy, and the Mustang
is NOT one of them.
Maybe a Ford Focus, a Dodge Challenger (when it arrives), a Chrysler 300,
and maybe a Cadillac. But that's about it.
On 5/11/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sunil Hari wrote:
I
I have been driving for 31 years and I've owned 32 cars 6 motorcycles to
date, some American, some German, some Japanese. I guess this makes me some
sort of expert
The long string of Oldsmobiles I owned were the most comfortable nicest
driving. These ranged from the early 70s to early 90s. I'd
Yep, I MEANT to say, sucking removes more than DRAINING.
Wilton
Man, am I stupid. 22% stupider than all of you.
On 5/11/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
4.9% smarter than average..Yeah, ok. Whatever.
Mike
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--removing drain plug sucks. Yes, that too.
Wilton
What's the rock bottom price?
Roger
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My 1990 300SEL did not sell on ebay. It crossed into the $4,000
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Looks like Bill R. is going to get to buy it!
Kaleb
I may be interested in the 123 locks key what do you suppose we could work
out
so I could get spare keys made for the set.
Roger
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There seems to be a consensus then that oil dipsticks tubes on MANY other
cars do not reach bottom of pan - just as I suspected. I have to agree,
then, that sucking oil via the dipstick tube, only, without inserting a tube
to bottom of pan, in those cars can be BAD.
MBs, however, DO have dipstick
Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm just kidding - there are very few domestic cars I'd buy, and the
Mustang is NOT one of them.
Maybe a Ford Focus, a Dodge Challenger (when it arrives), a Chrysler
300, and maybe a Cadillac. But that's about it.
We have a Focus. It's a tin can, but
Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for diesel MPVs, almost every Dodge Caravan I see here, why they
have them is beyond me, is a diesel with a manual trans.
Holy . I wish they sold those here. What engine do they us in
them?
Allan
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Here's the info on one I chose randomly:
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Chrysler/Grand+Voyager+%282001-%29/1373/
Here's all the variations available here:
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-specifications/Chrysler/Grand+Voyager+%282001-%29/
And that's the Chrysler
Drove my daughter's 1997 Civic for a few days while doing some routine
maintenance on it. While feels like a tin can, is incredibly slow, and
has very average handling, I certainly can't argue with the 30+ MPG
and 148Kmiles with nothing but basic maintenance.
It was a joy to get back in the 1995
I suppose it may not compare with a similar vintage MB, but the Honda's are
really nice little cars. My mother has
a 97 4 Dr Civic with about 35K miles on it and it is a really solid little car.
I don't consider it to be slow
either. Maybe your daughter's car needs a tune up?
Randy
That's not the 1st time (or last I suspect) time CC have been totally
wrong - especially when it comes to diesels. They say some really *stupid*
things.
If one of us were to write them tell them MBs were designed for oil
extraction from the dipsticks since the early 80s they will call it
I had a first year US model Focus. I really liked the way it rode and the
amount of interior room - especially the head room. It was a fleet vehicle
and I had 54 wonderful trouble free miles before it died the first time.
Something about a bad computer. Ran wonderfully until the brakes were
scored 23 so about 28% smarter than average so it says - might have done even
better if I had realized it was going
to move so quickly - I missed a question near the start that I knew as it
bumped ahead to the next question while I
was still reading it
Randy - who thought that was cool and did
And right on topic.
Brian
On 5/11/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regardless, it's a great commercial.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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oh, for the vito in the US!
if you think because it's MB and oh joy diesel powered, it's heaven on earth,
you couldn't be more wrong. The Spanish built Vito (now extinct) has always
had bad reviews and quality and reliability are absent.
Other than that.
RLE
Do W123 and W126 shocks interchange front and rear? Just curious...
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