Re: [MBZ] WAS 1985 300TD in RI NOW 1983 300TD with hear 24/7
Do you have 12 volts to the monovalve when the car is running and the heat should be off? andrew strasfogel wrote: OK gang. I got a car puzzler. My 1983 300TD has incessant, incurable max heat 24/7 regardless of the settings. I swapped out the monovalve insert, monovalve assembly and ACC push button module. No effect whatsoever. All fuses are good. Blower works great - blows super hot air anytime! What's left to fiddle with? I replaced the foam hose under the dash a couple years ago so that should still be OK. Are there any other components that might cause this malfunction? Is there a simple diagnostic for quasi retards?? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300CD (hers) On 5/12/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Curt, I was thinking it would be ideal for you-you can get rid of your pickup that way. Sure you don't want me to go look at it for you? Actually, until I find that perfect 300CD or 280CE, I will keep my current fleet-I have a small driveway and it's 3/4 full. My brother is talking of giving me his 78 240D stick, from NC. Then I might have to sell the Green Goddess-the 240D automatic. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:30 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI Careful Dwight, the 123 wagons have SUCH a nice ride you might be tempted. Seriously if you think your 240D rides smooth its nothing compared to that hydralic syspension on the wagon. m/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ???
yes, there is such a thing as that. Less standard options, smaller engine, less power than a regular 300E. Used they cost the same. Donald Snook wrote: I just found a 1993 124. The seller claims it has a 2.8 liter engine. I have never heard of a 2.8 in any of the newer cars. I remember my old 250 had a 2.8 in it. What is the story? I am only asking because there is a VERY nice 124 on ebay. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.
Fred, Aren't all who live on the North Shore scrod? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs. After a week of resounding silence, I'd guess I'm scrod. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190D 190Dt 300TD - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.
Yup! Past imperfect. Fred Moir Lynn MA Deiselitis maximus Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, Aren't all who live on the North Shore scrod? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI Subject: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs. After a week of resounding silence, I'd guess I'm scrod. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190D 190Dt 300TD - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 13 00:39:36 2007 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hn27c-0003L7-9e for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 13 May 2007 00:39:36 + Received: from dialup-4.225.83.120.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.225.83.120]) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Hn27V-00056U-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:39:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:20:57 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ??? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 00:39:36 - Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L? The M104 has a LOT more power than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one. Road rocket, pretty much. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI
I had a wagon once, don't know how it would have hauled the big load of oak we moved with the pickup today. I'm actually still on the lookout for a third vehicle. Something that could do 28mpg like I used to do with my 240D would save us $850 a year or there abouts. Half of that gets eaten in tax and insurance but the rest... Well it'll be more if diesel continues to be cheaper than gas and/or if I ever get off my duff and order a couple hundred gallons of veggie oil. -Curt Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 09:39:23 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well Curt, I was thinking it would be ideal for you-you can get rid of your pickup that way. Sure you don't want me to go look at it for you? Actually, until I find that perfect 300CD or 280CE, I will keep my current fleet-I have a small driveway and it's 3/4 full. My brother is talking of giving me his 78 240D stick, from NC. Then I might have to sell the Green Goddess-the 240D automatic. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 13 01:41:51 2007 Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([208.3.80.17]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hn35q-0005Cm-PC for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 13 May 2007 01:41:50 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21073D45B5A9 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 12 May 2007 19:41:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cnsp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BCJcCmEnzX5H for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 12 May 2007 19:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-31.cnsp.net [208.3.82.31]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CC8B6D45B5A7 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 12 May 2007 19:41:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:41:43 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 01:41:53 - On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if diesel continues to be cheaper than gas ... Today's prices in Los Alamos, Regular 3.309 Mid 3.409 Permium 3.509 Diesel 3.089 Amazing. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8
yes, there is such a thing as that. Less standard options, smaller engine, less power than a regular 300E. Uh uh. More power than a 300E, less then an E320. The M104 engine is superior to the M103 in every way. Aside from the cylinder count, the old 2.8 in the '72 250 has no relationship to the M104 and a good thing it is. Ten more mpg hiway comes to mind, for one thing. I owned both. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Smart or stoopid?
I only scored 27 they tell me that is 50% smart On May 10, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: I is .6% stooopidar than your average bear - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart or stoopid? I am 17% stoopider than average [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.flashbynight.com/test/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 turbo fuel injection
Guess I need to figure a way to tee into the boost lines to measure it. While I was there, I did turn the adjustment screw on the ALDA CW 1 turn - since I'm sure it's been messed with before I got it. The smoke seemed considerably less, with no change in performance (that I noticed). I'll check it more thoroughly tomorrow. It is rattling like a Diesel more at idle now than it was before - power off or idling from 600 to 1200RPM sounds like a 616 engine now. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
I have noticed that the condenser is hot, and the return line from the evaporator is about room temperature. The cold fitting should be near freezing in temperature. If it's not, there's something wrong and it's not the car's heating system. (That shouldn't affect what happens at the evaporator.) You could always cork off the coolant flow to the heating system to see if it made any difference. Based on your description, however, I wouldn't expect it to. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] WAS 1985 300TD in RI NOW 1983 300TD with hear 24/7
What's left to fiddle with? I replaced the foam hose under the dash a couple years ago so that should still be OK. Are there any other components that might cause this malfunction? Is there a simple diagnostic for quasi retards?? You have the little clear AUTO switch? Those bypass the foam hose business when set on MAX or MIN. Check that you are getting power to the monovalve when the heat is supposed to be off. (No power is full heat.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
I have noticed that the condenser is hot, and the return line from the evaporator is about room temperature. Oh, and what refrigerant? You didn't say. R134a stinks as a retrofit, IMHO. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8
We are discussing 2 different engines here. The 2.8 liter engine in the 300E 2.8 is not the engine that was produced in the 70s. It's a smaller displacement version of the same year 3 liter with noticebly less performance. Tom www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/12/07 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 yes, there is such a thing as that. Less standard options, smaller engine, less power than a regular 300E. Uh uh. More power than a 300E, less then an E320. The M104 engine is superior to the M103 in every way. Aside from the cylinder count, the old 2.8 in the '72 250 has no relationship to the M104 and a good thing it is. Ten more mpg hiway comes to mind, for one thing. I owned both. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
I have been using duracool, the propane based stuff in my cars for about 10 years. It works great most of the time. I just dumped the system and sucked a vacuum on it for about 30 minutes, before recharging, as that I figured with the pressures correct, around 30-40 on low side and around 250 on high, it would mean moisture in system or excessive oil. Note I don't think I have excessive oil as compressor has a bit of rattle and when dumping system not much oil came out. I will add more next install. I am a bit puzzled over this one, as that the condenser is really hot, thus I would expect evaporator to be cool. I guess I will try clamping off the heater hoses. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question I have noticed that the condenser is hot, and the return line from the evaporator is about room temperature. Oh, and what refrigerant? You didn't say. R134a stinks as a retrofit, IMHO. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI
Curt, I might have a line on a rust fee southern beauty, stick 240D in a few weeks. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:44 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI I had a wagon once, don't know how it would have hauled the big load of oak we moved with the pickup today. I'm actually still on the lookout for a third vehicle. Something that could do 28mpg like I used to do with my 240D would save us $850 a year or there abouts. Half of that gets eaten in tax and insurance but the rest... Well it'll be more if diesel continues to be cheaper than gas and/or if I ever get off my duff and order a couple hundred gallons of veggie oil. -Curt Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 09:39:23 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in RI To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well Curt, I was thinking it would be ideal for you-you can get rid of your pickup that way. Sure you don't want me to go look at it for you? Actually, until I find that perfect 300CD or 280CE, I will keep my current fleet-I have a small driveway and it's 3/4 full. My brother is talking of giving me his 78 240D stick, from NC. Then I might have to sell the Green Goddess-the 240D automatic. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.
What was the original question? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs. Yup! Past imperfect. Fred Moir Lynn MA Deiselitis maximus Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, Aren't all who live on the North Shore scrod? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI Subject: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs. After a week of resounding silence, I'd guess I'm scrod. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190D 190Dt 300TD - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8
Well just to be difficult I could argue that the M103 is less complex than the M104 and from a maintenance and repair point of view is superior to the 104. However performance wise the 104 beats the 103 design in every way. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 yes, there is such a thing as that. Less standard options, smaller engine, less power than a regular 300E. Uh uh. More power than a 300E, less then an E320. The M104 engine is superior to the M103 in every way. Aside from the cylinder count, the old 2.8 in the '72 250 has no relationship to the M104 and a good thing it is. Ten more mpg hiway comes to mind, for one thing. I owned both. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 12/05/2007 6:40 PM
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ???
More on the M104 2.8L engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine Seems like the 2.8L at 197 hp is indeed peppier than the 177 hp M103 3.0L. Though, according to this entry, there's a difference in power between the M103 with and without catalytic converter. The 177 hp number is for with, and 185 hp for without. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:20:57 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ??? Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L? The M104 has a LOT more power than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one. Road rocket, pretty much. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8
Here is what they are saying on the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W124 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine So from that I gather that the 300E with the M104 in 2.8 litre displacement was only built in 1993 after production of the M103 powered 300E stopped and before prodution of the M104 powered 300E began, which according to the entry uses the same engine as the E320. It would appear that the M103 motor never came out in 2.8 litre form. Perhaps you are getting confused with the M103 2.6 litre. And before you all go on about comparing modern engines to crappy 70's stuff, consider that the M110 with D jetronic pumped out 185hp. This not so far from the M104 2.8 which is rated at 197hp. A gain of 12 hp in 18 years. Obviously the M110 loves to have a drink but was awesome in it's day. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 We are discussing 2 different engines here. The 2.8 liter engine in the 300E 2.8 is not the engine that was produced in the 70s. It's a smaller displacement version of the same year 3 liter with noticebly less performance. Tom www.kegkits.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ???
In 93, the 300E used the 3.2 104 so no, I am not thinking of the 2.6 Peter Frederick wrote: Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L? The M104 has a LOT more power than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one. Road rocket, pretty much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 turbo fuel injection
Check for vacuum leaks. Any little leak WILL affect performance on that car. OK Don wrote: Guess I need to figure a way to tee into the boost lines to measure it. While I was there, I did turn the adjustment screw on the ALDA CW 1 turn - since I'm sure it's been messed with before I got it. The smoke seemed considerably less, with no change in performance (that I noticed). I'll check it more thoroughly tomorrow. It is rattling like a Diesel more at idle now than it was before - power off or idling from 600 to 1200RPM sounds like a 616 engine now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
Last couple of times I used duracool in 2 different cars that cooled great otherwise, duracool didnt work very well at all. Not sure why. Almost like they had the mix wrong or something. Trampas wrote: I have been using duracool, the propane based stuff in my cars for about 10 years. It works great most of the time. I just dumped the system and sucked a vacuum on it for about 30 minutes, before recharging, as that I figured with the pressures correct, around 30-40 on low side and around 250 on high, it would mean moisture in system or excessive oil. Note I don't think I have excessive oil as compressor has a bit of rattle and when dumping system not much oil came out. I will add more next install. I am a bit puzzled over this one, as that the condenser is really hot, thus I would expect evaporator to be cool. I guess I will try clamping off the heater hoses. Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ???
You are comparing the 2.8 in the 280E to the 3.0 103 in earlier vehicles. I was talking about 1993 model year cars. In 93, the 300E had the 3.2 104 which was 217 or so hp. TimothyPilgrim wrote: More on the M104 2.8L engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine Seems like the 2.8L at 197 hp is indeed peppier than the 177 hp M103 3.0L. Though, according to this entry, there's a difference in power between the M103 with and without catalytic converter. The 177 hp number is for with, and 185 hp for without. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:20:57 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ??? Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L? The M104 has a LOT more power than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one. Road rocket, pretty much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ
Dwight et al. I'm game. Like good chowdah and fin fish, just not too fond of food that looks like snot! Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta-bug p.s. Ocean rats are wasted on me too. - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 13 13:56:54 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.235]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HnEZB-0004rr-Ic for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:56:54 + Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1388866wrq for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr598364waf.1179064189019; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.57.13 with HTTP; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 09:49:48 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS 1985 300TD in RI NOW 1983 300TD with hear 24/7 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:56:54 - If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing?? On 5/13/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's left to fiddle with? I replaced the foam hose under the dash a couple years ago so that should still be OK. Are there any other components that might cause this malfunction? Is there a simple diagnostic for quasi retards?? You have the little clear AUTO switch? Those bypass the foam hose business when set on MAX or MIN. Check that you are getting power to the monovalve when the heat is supposed to be off. (No power is full heat.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8
You are correct - I am thinking of the 2.6 liter. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 Here is what they are saying on the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W124 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine So from that I gather that the 300E with the M104 in 2.8 litre displacement was only built in 1993 after production of the M103 powered 300E stopped and before prodution of the M104 powered 300E began, which according to the entry uses the same engine as the E320. It would appear that the M103 motor never came out in 2.8 litre form. Perhaps you are getting confused with the M103 2.6 litre. And before you all go on about comparing modern engines to crappy 70's stuff, consider that the M110 with D jetronic pumped out 185hp. This not so far from the M104 2.8 which is rated at 197hp. A gain of 12 hp in 18 years. Obviously the M110 loves to have a drink but was awesome in it's day. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 We are discussing 2 different engines here. The 2.8 liter engine in the 300E 2.8 is not the engine that was produced in the 70s. It's a smaller displacement version of the same year 3 liter with noticebly less performance. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ
New England Listers, Fred's post refers to some off-list conversations we are having about scheduling the ChowdahQ. Who else on this list is in New England or driving distance to the Greater Boston Area? We would probably have it in a state park somewhere on a Saturday or Sunday this summer. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Dwight et al. I'm game. Like good chowdah and fin fish, just not too fond of food that looks like snot! Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta-bug p.s. Ocean rats are wasted on me too. - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ
I will be in ME june 6th thru the 13th I believe. Not sure how far away that is from where you are talking about. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: New England Listers, Fred's post refers to some off-list conversations we are having about scheduling the ChowdahQ. Who else on this list is in New England or driving distance to the Greater Boston Area? We would probably have it in a state park somewhere on a Saturday or Sunday this summer. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Dwight et al. I'm game. Like good chowdah and fin fish, just not too fond of food that looks like snot! Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta-bug p.s. Ocean rats are wasted on me too. - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ
Ocean rats? Bob R.desert dweller - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Dwight et al. I'm game. Like good chowdah and fin fish, just not too fond of food that looks like snot! Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta-bug p.s. Ocean rats are wasted on me too. - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ
Maybe akin to Rocky Mountain Oysters? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Ocean rats? Bob R.desert dweller http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ???
The W124.028 1993 300E - 2.8 (104.942) is included in the Workshop Manual I have on CD (from eBay). It's a rare model, for sure! Just glancing at the engine manual it looks like a dual OHC engine with CIS-E FI system. I wonder if it is something AMG had a hand in? It's probably so rare that putting a price on it may be difficult- will come down to what one party is willing to pay and what another will accept. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ??? You are comparing the 2.8 in the 280E to the 3.0 103 in earlier vehicles. I was talking about 1993 model year cars. In 93, the 300E had the 3.2 104 which was 217 or so hp. TimothyPilgrim wrote: More on the M104 2.8L engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine Seems like the 2.8L at 197 hp is indeed peppier than the 177 hp M103 3.0L. Though, according to this entry, there's a difference in power between the M103 with and without catalytic converter. The 177 hp number is for with, and 185 hp for without. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:20:57 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 2.8 ??? Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L? The M104 has a LOT more power than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one. Road rocket, pretty much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 turbo fuel injection
Don wrote:with no change in performance to check performance, time the 0-60 time - should be around 12-13 sec. But perhaps that's what you're judging - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 turbo fuel injection Check for vacuum leaks. Any little leak WILL affect performance on that car. OK Don wrote: Guess I need to figure a way to tee into the boost lines to measure it. While I was there, I did turn the adjustment screw on the ALDA CW 1 turn - since I'm sure it's been messed with before I got it. The smoke seemed considerably less, with no change in performance (that I noticed). I'll check it more thoroughly tomorrow. It is rattling like a Diesel more at idle now than it was before - power off or idling from 600 to 1200RPM sounds like a 616 engine now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
[MBZ] OT Re ChowdahQ
Greetings and Salutations. Ocean rats = Lobsta ( also crabs ) Fred Moir Lynn MA And now, back to your regularly scheduled diesel repairs. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 13 16:47:32 2007 Received: from web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.233]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HnHEK-0001J5-0S for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:47:32 + Received: (qmail 53186 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 2007 16:47:26 - X-YMail-OSG: zKQe7moVM1kHhvz9kIr24zPSZiFH1goPKj6d5N59jTCg3fizFz4iN0WVeZoPlHRulyysb7Bn6qwmYSOQ7Lr.DCgU7pkNRqYGWfAittZfl2piYzGb_xaCGbJiMSJj Received: from [72.184.214.46] by web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 May 2007 09:47:26 PDT Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 09:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS 1985 300TD in RI NOW 1983 300TD with hear 24/7 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:47:33 - --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing?? Andrew, I would highly suggest that you consider RR of the pushbutton assembly and resolder the joints on the boards. While this isn't the typical fix for monovalve problems, you're probably due for it anyway. I have pictures of the procedure if you want them... RM Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing?? It signifies that you're always going to have heat! It's the PB array, or the wiring to/from it. You need to get out the car's schematic and start verifying the wiring. (Grounds, power feeds, etc.) But it's usually the PB array IIRC. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
I have been using duracool, the propane based stuff in my cars for about 10 years. It works great most of the time. I mix my own. A friend came over yesterday and we again filled his Nissan Axxess. On the way home he reported 39 degree vent temps. He's ecstatic that instead of the $2000 quote he got at the shop all he has to do is put in $6 of gas annually. Costs him a couple of hours and a couple of beers each spring. This is the third year. I am a bit puzzled over this one, as that the condenser is really hot, thus I would expect evaporator to be cool. I guess I will try clamping off the heater hoses. It sounds like the charge is wrong. Too much propane? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
Well I found that with R12 around 200-250psi on the high side depending on temperature and I would like around 30psi on the low side, for the correct charge. Of course the high side is closer to 250 when hot out... How do you mix your own gas? I have been thinking about straight propane. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question I have been using duracool, the propane based stuff in my cars for about 10 years. It works great most of the time. I mix my own. A friend came over yesterday and we again filled his Nissan Axxess. On the way home he reported 39 degree vent temps. He's ecstatic that instead of the $2000 quote he got at the shop all he has to do is put in $6 of gas annually. Costs him a couple of hours and a couple of beers each spring. This is the third year. I am a bit puzzled over this one, as that the condenser is really hot, thus I would expect evaporator to be cool. I guess I will try clamping off the heater hoses. It sounds like the charge is wrong. Too much propane? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sucking oil
In my 2002 Subaru 2.5 Legacy Wagon, the tube from my 'Suck-Up' does not reach the bottom no matter what I try. I have to get that last bit by draining it. I still use the Suck-Up on it tho, because it is easier to handle the bulk of the oil that way. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sucking oil 'Read a Click and Clack column today in which they vehemently deride sucking oil changes. They also imply that garages who charge for sucking are scamming. Obviously they don't know that it's the preferred way to change MB oil, removing more oil than by draining. They're concerned that it doesn't get all the oil and leaves sludge. Of course, if you use a good and proper oil and suck it hot, you don't have and don't leave sludge. Of course, also, if the suction tube doesn't reach bottom of the pan the way the dipstick tube does in an MB, sucking can leave significant oil. Anybody know if dipstick tubes in other engines reach bottom of pan like MB? Wilton (who uses $2 sucker and has confirmed on 3 of my MBs that sucking removes more than sucking - removing drain plugs on them after completing the sucking produced not a single drip from the drain holes.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL Air Cond. Question
How do you mix your own gas? I have been thinking about straight propane. I put in one can of Isopro high-altitude camp stove fuel, a propane/ isobutane mix, then add more propane until things work well, and keep adding until the vent temperature just starts to rise again, then stop. I try to match the high-side fitting's temperature to the R12 temperature scale on the gauge set. All while making sure both pressures are in spec. By shooting a bit high early in the season the inevitable leaks swing the operation through optimal as the summer progresses. It's a balancing act, but seems to work pretty well for us. Straight propane is much like R22, the pressures are too high to work well in a car system. -- Jim
[MBZ] make failure question
i discover this morning that one of my macs doesn't boot, but just keeps showing me the grey apple logo. if i try to boot it in safe mode by holding down the shift key, it just ends up giving me a circle with a line through it. my immediate feeling is that i no longer have an operating system as my hard drive has fried in last night's electrical storms. thoughts?
Re: [MBZ] OT: mac failure question
i discover this morning that one of my macs doesn't boot, but just keeps showing me the grey apple logo. if i try to boot it in safe mode by holding down the shift key, it just ends up giving me a circle with a line through it. Try holding down cmd-S to force it into single-user mode. That makes it a whole lot more chatty about what's going on. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] make failure question
Your hard drive is not being recognized. I'd boot from a system CD if you have one -- that way you can verify the condition of the hard drive. It's quite possible it's toast, though. If you open up the box and the drive is going buzzt, buzzt with internittant clicking noises, the platters are bad and the electronics can't find the boot track. Peter
Re: [MBZ] make failure question
i hear some clicking in there. guess it pays to have a real surge protector, huh? i'll go find my os x disks, i suppose. can i replace it with any hard drive or do i need to get something specific? it is a gigabit ethernet dual 500mhz and i'm very fond of the old guy. On 5/13/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hard drive is not being recognized. I'd boot from a system CD if you have one -- that way you can verify the condition of the hard drive. It's quite possible it's toast, though. If you open up the box and the drive is going buzzt, buzzt with internittant clicking noises, the platters are bad and the electronics can't find the boot track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] make failure question
AFAIK, apple uses standard computer components like HDs and RAM, just proprietary chipsets. When my powerbook HD fried, i just bought a standard 2.5 HD and swapped it out. On 5/13/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear some clicking in there. guess it pays to have a real surge protector, huh? i'll go find my os x disks, i suppose. can i replace it with any hard drive or do i need to get something specific? it is a gigabit ethernet dual 500mhz and i'm very fond of the old guy. On 5/13/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hard drive is not being recognized. I'd boot from a system CD if you have one -- that way you can verify the condition of the hard drive. It's quite possible it's toast, though. If you open up the box and the drive is going buzzt, buzzt with internittant clicking noises, the platters are bad and the electronics can't find the boot track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] New and Improved Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car
You all well very helpful on this topic last time. I looked at 1996 E320 and after considering all of your comments I agree. Once I looked very closely, I could find areas of rust that were starting to show through. The metal lips on the rear wheels wells was discolored and starting to bubble. Once the trunk was opened there was rust in the drip channel around the trunk and the materials inside seemed cheaper are more prone to wear than 124. THEREFORE: Tell me why I shouldn't buy a 1995 E320 (special edition) with 111,000 miles. It looks REALLY nice. What is wrong with these cars? Also what about the E420 (124)? What are they like? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
Re: [MBZ] make failure question
Gary, Any EIDE disk should do. Go large with the replacement and partition it into a few 120 meg drives. That way your pr0n stays out of the normal boot area On May 13, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i hear some clicking in there. guess it pays to have a real surge protector, huh? i'll go find my os x disks, i suppose. can i replace it with any hard drive or do i need to get something specific? it is a gigabit ethernet dual 500mhz and i'm very fond of the old guy. On 5/13/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hard drive is not being recognized. I'd boot from a system CD if you have one -- that way you can verify the condition of the hard drive. It's quite possible it's toast, though. If you open up the box and the drive is going buzzt, buzzt with internittant clicking noises, the platters are bad and the electronics can't find the boot track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] New and Improved Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car
Not sure about the Vergasser engines, but body on the ED is still high quality, the interior is holding up well with the leather, wood and trim looking great. No rust found in 141K miles, everything still works well from the windows, doors, alarm, radio (though it cuts out left to right due to the phone being wired through). There is limited back seat room for anything but small monkeys. I am barely pushing 71 and with me driving, there is nearly room to slide an envelope behind me. With my wife driving, being a midget, I have almost room to get my legs twisted in the foot well. Carpet is not that fake fuzz glued to saranwrap the newer cars have, and the headliner, pillar covers and door panels are closer to something out of nature than squeezed out of a chinese wall mart auto care section. I was at the stealer to get a new start knob for Gump and bemoaned the fall in quality to the parts gal. She was sorry MB has become such a great example of floating feces, but could do nothing about the quality of the parts, let alone the car. She did say she was very busy with all the parts coming in to keep the newer cars on the road. There might still be enough stock from the original build of the w124 cars that should you need parts, soon, you will not get chinese junk On May 13, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Donald Snook wrote: You all well very helpful on this topic last time. I looked at 1996 E320 and after considering all of your comments I agree. Once I looked very closely, I could find areas of rust that were starting to show through. The metal lips on the rear wheels wells was discolored and starting to bubble. Once the trunk was opened there was rust in the drip channel around the trunk and the materials inside seemed cheaper are more prone to wear than 124. THEREFORE: Tell me why I shouldn't buy a 1995 E320 (special edition) with 111,000 miles. It looks REALLY nice. What is wrong with these cars? Also what about the E420 (124)? What are they like? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
