Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-10 Thread E M
I wouldnt' mind having that guys number too, just in case one day. :-) Ed CIS x2 cars. :-) On 10/07/07, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trampas - before I found the real cause of my problems, I was pretty sure that my fuel dist. was the problem. With the help of another lister I found

Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit

2007-07-10 Thread OK Don
I also thought that the fuel distributer was the problem on my SLC - turned out to be ALL the rubber in the fuel and intake system was rock hard and leaking, as well as all the bolts on the right side of the intake manifold were finger loose -- On 7/10/07, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-10 Thread slozukimc
Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get close to 30MPG loaded. Mike Luckily, nothing has happened while people's personal vehicles have been transporting gear and boats. However, up until

Re: [MBZ] Dodge diesel conversions, Was: 300D Dodge Dakota

2007-07-10 Thread slozukimc
The first link is much more in line with what I am doing. The link I posted for M-Series Rebuild and Repower shows what I dream of being able to do with my M37. Mike It seems than at Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:09:43 -0500, OK wrote: Is this what you're talking about? http://www.garbee.net/~cabell/

Re: [MBZ] Probably worth every penny

2007-07-10 Thread Rich Thomas
You ought to go over and get her to put a 3-pointed star on your forehead, full-size. --R Robert Rentfro wrote: While at the bike shop today, saw a ratty old '71 250 driven by a tattooed/pierced woman with her tattooed/pierced skater/BMXer son in tow. She gave me a hearty thumbs up when I

[MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread BillR
Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few miles South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. I know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for

[MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Peter Merle
When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Nothing more expensive than a cheap Merc. Check for rust, auto tranny operation and how the engine starts cold. A new seat base and window winder are small fry in the scheme of things. The air con could be just a couple of O rings or more expesnive than that but no way of telling until the

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread LarryT
Tom wrotethere is fraud and the same is true for freon You;re so right! I used to work for one of th 2 major chemical companies who made Freon (so I used to hear about this stuff ) and other R12 products with other names - just like smuggling cocaine, pot, etc, there's a huge profit in freon

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200 Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? No. They come out when you drain the block and when you

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/10/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's possible to buy a 12oz can and it be illegally imported freon that's been repackaged - the smuggleing is very big business and if they have to sell in cans that look new they will buy (or acquire) the equipment needed to package it -. This is

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder.

2007-07-10 Thread JFreezn
In the August issue of Car Driver, Csaba (Chubba) Csere, provides interesting reading on how much it cost Daimler to own Chrysler for 7 years. Having paid 36 billion for Chrysler and then selling it for only 7.5 billion is bad enough, but Csaba goes on to say that the 7.5 billion

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread John Robbins
LarryT wrote: I believe the taxes make current legal prices around $850./ pound Where on earth did you come up with that number? Is that how much it would cost to buy new R12 manufactured in the US or something? That certainly isn't the market price! John

[MBZ] Might actually be worth it

2007-07-10 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html The magic words All service records... No affiliation etc... -Curt - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread Jim Cathey
finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. Lawyers, guns, and money? Hey, if _I_ found guns and/or money hidden inside then lucky for me. (I've no use for either of the other two commodities.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Might actually be worth it

2007-07-10 Thread Sunil Hari
i'd hit it for $5k. On 7/10/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html The magic words All service records... No affiliation etc... -Curt - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread R A Bennell
May I just say that I hope you never really need a lawyer. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL finding stuff like drugs, money

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? Peter The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread John Robbins
Fmiser wrote: The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. Isn't it the other way around? My understanding was that you have to de-oil the system before you do a citric acid flush... John ___

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread BillR
Thanks Hendrik - I might discover a new way to live high on the hog If I like it I will be taking it to my nephew to check out. That all depends on IF this latest attempt [with an expanding ball] to clear my kitchen drain works. My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Actually it does not deoil the system, that is supposed to be done before doing the citric acid. The acid gets rid of the deposits. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Allan Streib
Has anyone installed one of those Prestone backflush adapters on an OM617? Where, exactly, should it be spliced in to the system? Or is it not a good idea at all? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin Kraly
Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get close to 30MPG loaded. Do you think one of these Cummins 4BT or 4BTA equipped vans could be fully loaded and pull 6500# worth of boats behind it?

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think it's better to disconnect hoses and flush manually. This avoids a potential failure/leak from the Prestone fitting. More important, it lets you selectively flush the system as it is important not to flush debris into the old Chrysler ACC servo (pre 1981, I think). The smooth ended hose

Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel

2007-07-10 Thread slozukimc
They are a Chevy one ton truck chassis underneath a big aluminum body and a GVW of 14K. Not as powerful as your 06 but no slouch either. Mike Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get close

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? Peter The citric acid is to de-oil the system.

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:01 -0400, you wrote: Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ?

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Zeitgeist
I love the Gaz d' Cathey method precisely because I can top-up R12 on-the-fly. I just did my once a year top-up in the Vanagon (~$7), and recorded 33 degree vent temps in the front. Vanagons have the evaporator hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork carrying the cool

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Do they still sell that stuff nowadays? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!

2007-07-10 Thread Redghost
Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so he may not be expected to know better clay On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to have this

Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!

2007-07-10 Thread Zeitgeist
Battleground, wasn't that the site of a secret inbreeding experiment gone awry, back in the late forties? On 7/10/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so he may not be expected to know better Casey

[MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
A web site that describes the pros and cons of old beater cars takes on the MBZ 123: http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/10/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vanagons have the evaporator hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork carrying the cool air all the way forward. Hey, my mom has a Vanagon with that system. I always thought that even if it doesn't cool all that well, at

Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Those guys are on crack. If I knew where I could find a GTI 16V for $1K I'd buy a cargo container full and resell them for five times that. On 7/10/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad, aside from the nonsense about expensive parts --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A web

Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!

2007-07-10 Thread Redghost
There was a sister site as well up north. Presently a huge shopping complex and native casino venture. The natives had nothing to do with it, but those backwood inbred folks across the highway are a wonder. On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Battleground, wasn't that the

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Luther
Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, but that isn't Mobil1 diesel-rated oil (it doesn't matter which flavor) -- it requires a special synthetic cleanser that costs a lot more, and lasts much longer. --R Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:57:06 -0700 Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the Gaz d' Cathey method precisely because I can top-up R12 on-the-fly. I just did my once a year top-up in the Vanagon (~$7), and recorded 33 degree vent temps in the front. With outlet temperatures that low, your

Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!

2007-07-10 Thread Ed Booher
On 7/9/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to have this engine/tranny lying around. How would a 616 or 617 fit into this chassis? That's it! That's what I've been

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:22:40 -0500 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut

Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:31:47 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A web site that describes the pros and cons of old beater cars takes on the MBZ 123: http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm The bottom video was taken at Morro Rock at Morro Bay, California, on the

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
that explains quite a bit --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup Wow, I'm going to

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Luther
Negative, sir. That is any oil you give me. Mobile 1 Diesel Truck, Delvac 1300, Delo400, or anyother lesser grade oil. You bring it, I'll clean it. I even clean shop rags with the stuff. Luther On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:39:11 -0500, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but that isn't

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread LarryT
ok - the jim c. method of blending on the fly - what would I add to my R12 and how would I do it? do I have to remove the r12 and fill with the other stuff? It may be easier to go to the corner mechanic and have a can of R12 put in -- BTW, I am getting my EPA certification so I can buy some

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread LarryT
Hi John - Had a brain hiccup - IIRC that's the price for a 30# tank making it closer to $28/ pound Is that closer? Thx for keeping me straight! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more

[MBZ] Timing Chain parts

2007-07-10 Thread Joe Mendyka
I know I've posted about this before, but I want to make sure everyone has a chance to hear about it. I have all the parts someone would need to change the timing chain in a 617 engine. I bought them for a 1982 300SD Turbodiesel that I had, but have since junked that car. These parts should

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Luther
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:23:34 -0500 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid cleaner? Marshall http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it Super Concentrated. Uh ... that's not citric acid. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote: Luther wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread BillR
Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' and continued to earn that name for the year I had it. I think the door handles worked pretty well, but other than that about all I can say is it didn't kill me. BillR

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yet another reason my diet is 99% vegetarian (non-meat but love that seafood!). On 7/10/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the sink [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first 8', the a 90 degree down to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder.

2007-07-10 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah well back then there was a frenzy of mergers with the thinking being that volume and market share is more important than quality. As I don't have shares in Daimler I couldn't give a rats. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread Hendrik Riessen
The problem is if the law finds it first. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them.

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Jim Cathey
ok - the jim c. method of blending on the fly - what would I add to my R12 and how would I do it? I have augmented a failing R12 system with propane. (I found that the Schrader valve was loose, explaining the loss.) do I have to remove the r12 and fill with the other stuff? No. But you

Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL

2007-07-10 Thread BillR
For you, substitute celery stalks and other appropriate veggies that could clog a drain. A combination of a drain cleaner so strong that a couple of drops burned two $.50 size holes in a shop towel, and the expanding ball insert directly off the 220 pump finally opened it up. 3 hardware stores, 4

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup

2007-07-10 Thread Luther
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:49:09 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: That's VERY different from a citric acid solution! Works rather well, but ISN'T a citric acid solution (although there may be some citric acid in it). Ingredient list: D-Limonene (clear

Re: [MBZ] Loss of power, shuddering upon cold takeoff (manual tranny)

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:23:59 -0700 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should be an easy one: When the 240D is not warmed up yet, and I try to take off on a hill, I get this shuddering and it loses power. I am thinking it feels like the clutch is slipping (but I thought clutch

Re: [MBZ] Might actually be worth it

2007-07-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
WARNING - avoid cars from sellers who advertise ice cold AC. You know they must be liars. On 7/10/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd hit it for $5k. On 7/10/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html The magic words All

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread John Robbins
LarryT wrote: Hi John - Had a brain hiccup - IIRC that's the price for a 30# tank making it closer to $28/ pound Is that closer? Thx for keeping me straight! Sounds much better!! ;-) Thats almost exactly in line with eBay prices when you take into account shipping and that a can is

Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T

2007-07-10 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:36 -0400, BillR wrote: Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' Was that a reference to the Land Rover 88 in The Gods Must Be Crazy? -- Philip Oye, yoy, yoy,