Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If it has been brazed, it can no longer be welded. The brass > is a weld contaminant. Unless you are doing TIG brazing! ;) I have been using the silicon-bronze rod with the TIG welder for almost everthing these days, it gives you all the precision of TIG with even less heat into the workpiece and it is more forgiving of dirty metal (vs. regular TIG) If you do it right it is a true braze in that the filler sits on the metal rather than melting into it, but interestingly enough you can turn up the heat and it will mix with the steel like regular filler rod. I hove no idea of the strength implications though... It is the best thing in the world for TIG'ing on old dirty car metal! -Zach > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
> Brazing doesn't sound very strong. So I guess it broke before and > someone brazed it. If it has been brazed, it can no longer be welded. The brass is a weld contaminant. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
I use to take my golden all over in my old porsche 911. The rear seats flip down, so once she was in, she could get quite comfortable. She was a large girl too at 120 lbs. The car would average 21 mph on the highway and she would manage about 120 miles per pigs ear. :-) We tried the front seat a number of times, but she could constantly turn around, trying to get comfortable, and each time she did, she would knock the car out of hear! hee hee. As for detecting low blood sugar, she would just wait until you were on the floor to take advantage of whatever food you left on your plate. :-) She loved her tummy! :-) I do miss her as do the cats. Maybe another one will come along one day. Ed 300E On 25/07/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, Chris. > > Joel is a seeing eye dog, or Guide Dog since he came from Guide Dogs for > the Blind. I've also heard of many dogs that seem to have a natural > ability > to detect low blood sugar in their owners. Some dogs can tune in to their > owner's needs before the owner even realizes it. For example, One of my > classmates was feeling tired and woozy, and she wanted to stop and rest > for > a minute. Just then, the dog pulled her to the side of the walkway where > there just happened to be a park bench. > > You mentioned that your GSD Anke likes to lie in front of the passengers > seat. This is how guide dogs are trained to ride in cars although some > dogs > like Joel are too uncomfortable to ride in the passenger's footwell. It > does work for short trips when all of the car' seats are occupied by HUMAN > passengers. > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting overafter A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
James Zavesky wrote: > I need to find a similar recycle machine for R134 so I can do > some work on the 600SEL A/C system - the compressor is making noise. Federal law has some nasty fine for venting refrigerant, even R134A. The funny thing is, the feds allow R134A to be sold in 12oz spray cans for blowing dust off stuff when you're too lazy to fire up a vacuum. I fail to see how the stuff becomes too dangerous to vent just because it has been mixed with PAG oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Curt Raymond wrote: > > Interesting, a quick google search agrees with you. > The welding book I own says brazing is no good for 4130. > More searching seems to say as long as the 4130 isn't heat treated you'll be > okay. That said it appears alot of the 4130 used now is heat treated... High end bike frames were always made from drawn, butted tubes of chrome moly or chrome manganese alloys, brazed into lugs at the joints, or on the very best frames, lugless brazed. Then in the early 1980s Reynolds came out with their super strong 753 tubing, which they insisted must be silver soldered. Perhaps this tubing was heat treated as your book mentions? Since then everything evolved into composites or MIG/TIG weldable metal alloys, and I doubt you will find hand brazed frames except from a few small custom framebuilders. At any rate, it sounds like the broken frame we're talking about has a broken dropout, not a weld failure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
In a message dated 7/25/2007 11:06:37 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It may depend on who drives the car. I see a large population of 3/5 series BMW at the PNP with no body damage or nasty interior. Seems to be some other issue has caused the car to end up there. Clay and all There is a 99 535 at the Chandlere picknpull as we speak. One of 5 cars that will be released this coming Saturday. Beautiful brown leather interior, one big dent in side and the dash was ripped open. Car appears very, very clean and complete Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] End o July CL
On 7/25/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are only a few benz worth looking at on CL this week, so here > they are. > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/380039555.html -- Ed Booher I weep ... openly and without shame. Notice the dark blue fintail sitting next to it? Experienced Autos and they know it needs a head gasket? Sounds like I'd have to replace the engine *sighs* I still weep. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... seizure alert dog? I recently read a story about a low sugar alert > dog (for a diabetic) - amazing thing is that the dog had no training and > was rescued from a local (Kansas City) shelter. Chris, Do you have a URL for that story? My wife has had seizures and we got the particular GSD we now have because her grandfather is an outstanding seizure alert dog (warning typically 20 minutes before a seizure, sometimes 45 minutes). My wife is also a diabetic and it would be a great help if Ori would let her know when her blood sugar is going down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] End o July CL
I'm going to talk to the guy and set up a time to have a "look" (a feel) at the car. I had a non-running '73 220D that I bought for $100 with a decent body and a rusted trunk floor, but I decided to sell it before even trying a valve adjustment to see if it was due to the intake valves being too tight. It didn't have any funky noises in the engine, so I could have had a runner. I later bought the wrenches, the best investment i've made yet. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
It seems than at Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:26:27 -0700, Zoltan wrote: > You know, I bet cracking open the block plug could be quite difficult > (read too hardcore for my blood). I haven't followed the thread, but on a W123 with a diesel engine, the block drain is not hard to get to or open. A loong, extension and a swivel end sure help. I have a 2ft long extension with a 30 deg or so swivel at the end. With this, I can open the block drain with the hood closed and the car flat on the ground. I reach the drain from in front of the right wheel. It is way, _way_ easier than the block heater plug --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] End o July CL
Speaking of that, there's a 380 SL here that's asking $2200, it has intermittent fuel supply problems. Awfully tempting! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] End o July CL
Kevin, Sounds worth a lowball offer-I would do it if it were in my hood. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] End o July CL http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/379386517.html -- 220D $500 I must give this guy credit since he is brutally honest! I wonder when the last valve adjustment was done on that thing? Speaking of 220D's, there's a '72 220D for sale here in Portland. The guy got it in a package deal along with a '75 240D and a '79 300SD. He says that the 'SD started after it was "jumpered," and the other two turned over (probably didn't start since they have pull knobs for starting/fuel rack control). The guy wants $650, nice straight body with pearl white paint and new tires. It even has a manual sunroof which is appealing to me. I figure that it's definitely worth checking out since I've been lusting after Gump. Auto or manual really doesn't matter although the manual may end up with a bug or two less on the rear window. This one will most likely be a fun get around town car and a classic old timer too. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list
I think it was about six months ago --- On 7/25/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me Tooo!! > > > Didnt somebody just post this? > > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi Peter! thanks; i'll be sure to check it out. cheers! e Peter Frederick wrote: > Plugged condensate drain. On the W123, the hose is dead center over > the tranny, a real pain to reach, just about where your knee is > driving. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shifter??
Willing to purchase the Mobil 1 headlamp fluid if that will help It won't work unless you also buy the Mobil 1 blinker fluid and tail lamp fluid as they mix and aren't compattible with *OTHER* brands :-) LOL!!! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shifter??
From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > She got a tow to the shop this morning. I seem to have buggered her > up beyond redemption. I can not seem to get my mind around what went > wrong and how to implement the great suggestions in a manner that > would unbugger the transmission.All the responses on the list > were printed out and laminated and then taken with the tool box to be > under her while I worked. Got a new creeper too, but found I had > enlarged since the last one, or this one is higher. Not much room > with the ramps to work. > > The fellows at the shop will no doubt have the proper frame of > reference to know that part A goes to part C but only with the > grimulated flambistilator attached at the cabonkinator. Right here > he has the cabonkinator switched over the jamima hose, and that is > why it will not shift! Simple fix and off we go. At least I hope it > is that easy. Willing to purchase the Mobil 1 headlamp fluid it that > will help also. -- ROFLMAO!!! This is a keeper! Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
Hey that's hopeful news, as my ACC is acting up. Brian 87 190D On 7/25/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wrong or bad thermostat. Will reduce milage, and can cause climate > control and trans shift funnies with equiped with those things. > > Probably also cause overheating in heat stress conditions, as it is > likely not opening correctly. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shifter??
She got a tow to the shop this morning. I seem to have buggered her up beyond redemption. I can not seem to get my mind around what went wrong and how to implement the great suggestions in a manner that would unbugger the transmission.All the responses on the list were printed out and laminated and then taken with the tool box to be under her while I worked. Got a new creeper too, but found I had enlarged since the last one, or this one is higher. Not much room with the ramps to work. The fellows at the shop will no doubt have the proper frame of reference to know that part A goes to part C but only with the grimulated flambistilator attached at the cabonkinator. Right here he has the cabonkinator switched over the jamima hose, and that is why it will not shift! Simple fix and off we go. At least I hope it is that easy. Willing to purchase the Mobil 1 headlamp fluid it that will help also On 25 Jul 2007, at 11:47, R A Bennell wrote: > So what is happening with the shifter on Gump? > > Randy -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] End o July CL
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/379386517.html -- 220D $500 I must give this guy credit since he is brutally honest! I wonder when the last valve adjustment was done on that thing? Speaking of 220D's, there's a '72 220D for sale here in Portland. The guy got it in a package deal along with a '75 240D and a '79 300SD. He says that the 'SD started after it was "jumpered," and the other two turned over (probably didn't start since they have pull knobs for starting/fuel rack control). The guy wants $650, nice straight body with pearl white paint and new tires. It even has a manual sunroof which is appealing to me. I figure that it's definitely worth checking out since I've been lusting after Gump. Auto or manual really doesn't matter although the manual may end up with a bug or two less on the rear window. This one will most likely be a fun get around town car and a classic old timer too. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
Wrong or bad thermostat. Will reduce milage, and can cause climate control and trans shift funnies with equiped with those things. Probably also cause overheating in heat stress conditions, as it is likely not opening correctly. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
Plugged condensate drain. On the W123, the hose is dead center over the tranny, a real pain to reach, just about where your knee is driving. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Interesting about the footwell. She has always liked it there, but she is on the small side (about 65 pounds). Sammy is 95-100 and the footwell is a no go. I am endlessly amazed by what dogs can be trained to do...and working dogs in general. We got our 2 GSDs after being robbed of everything worth robbing (except the cars). They are very good watch dogs/intimidators/deterants. I did not realize how much a part of the family they would become. We all love them to death and they are very good with the kids (5 of them aged 7 to 1...or is it 2 now?). We teach the kids how to interact with the dogs, how to read the dog's body language, what NOT to do (pull tails, etc) and the dogs do their part by being pretty forgiving of being stepped on, ears pulled, teeth examined by junior "dentists", etc. Say hello to Joel for me. I'm sure Sammy and Anke send their butt-sniffing/greetings as well. :-) Chris Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Chris. Joel is a seeing eye dog, or Guide Dog since he came from Guide Dogs for the Blind. I've also heard of many dogs that seem to have a natural ability to detect low blood sugar in their owners. Some dogs can tune in to their owner's needs before the owner even realizes it. For example, One of my classmates was feeling tired and woozy, and she wanted to stop and rest for a minute. Just then, the dog pulled her to the side of the walkway where there just happened to be a park bench. You mentioned that your GSD Anke likes to lie in front of the passengers seat. This is how guide dogs are trained to ride in cars although some dogs like Joel are too uncomfortable to ride in the passenger's footwell. It does work for short trips when all of the car' seats are occupied by HUMAN passengers. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri "Anke" (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd "Sammy" (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd -- "Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz." -1985 300SD, 223K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
I have only done it once myself, and while I guess there is some satisfaction in knowing you completely drained the system, I question whether or not it is worth the effort involved in pulling the plug. About the only way you can do it is by getting the car on a lift and using a BIG cheater pipe or bar to generate enoug torque to break it loose. Dan --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, I bet cracking open the block plug could > be quite difficult > (read too hardcore for my blood). > > How about draining via the radiator petcock (I have > waited to use that > word). And then, when ready, fill with plain water > and run for a > while, then drain. Then perhaps repeat until you > feel you have gotten > all the old coolant out. Then when you add your 50% > mix, factor in the > straight water that is remaining in the block? > > Just came up with this. > > Brian > 87 190D > 83 240D > > David wrote: > IIRC, on a 617 opening the rad drain will not drain > the block below > the water pump. You'll get about 2/3 of the coolant > out if you don't > open the block drain. OTOH, getting to the block > drain can be a royal > PITA. Measure what comes out the rad drain and > you'll know how much is > left in the system for flushing/mixing purposes. > > D. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD Vac Hose [was] Re: Dogs in cars
Now you know why Kevin had more than the usual trouble finding a vacuum hose that got knocked loose on his 300SD. Mitch. Believe it or not, I don't know which one of us, me or my dad, has the best chance of finding the hose and getting it connected properly again! The car is out at his place, so he's got full access to it (OH NO!). He's taught me a lot over the years, but the learning curve has gone the other way with these Mercedes'. If anyone has the schematic for the vac system on an '83 300SD, it would be GREATLY appreciated! While I was feeling around under there, I've found lots of lines capped off, and, if possible, I would like to make things right again. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula, still in Hillsboro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Hi, Chris. Joel is a seeing eye dog, or Guide Dog since he came from Guide Dogs for the Blind. I've also heard of many dogs that seem to have a natural ability to detect low blood sugar in their owners. Some dogs can tune in to their owner's needs before the owner even realizes it. For example, One of my classmates was feeling tired and woozy, and she wanted to stop and rest for a minute. Just then, the dog pulled her to the side of the walkway where there just happened to be a park bench. You mentioned that your GSD Anke likes to lie in front of the passengers seat. This is how guide dogs are trained to ride in cars although some dogs like Joel are too uncomfortable to ride in the passenger's footwell. It does work for short trips when all of the car' seats are occupied by HUMAN passengers. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: anyone manage any rental properties?
If so, please contact me via direct email -- thanks. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] End o July CL
There are only a few benz worth looking at on CL this week, so here they are. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/381697014.html -- $600 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/381600718.html - K'Leb yard http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/381482410.html -- classics http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/381386811.html - 79 SD $1500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/car/380845142.html -- Ed B wants http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/380683635.html -- BOOHER http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/380250213.html -- TD http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/380039555.html -- Ed Booher http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/car/379973125.html -- 240D $800 http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/379899048.html -- 87 MOG http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/379681535.html -- 67 SE $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/379386517.html -- 220D $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/379228488.html - $750 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/379118641.html - 450SL $5600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/378652160.html -- OMG Orange http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/378379233.html -- 82 SD $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/377988654.html -- $1500 w115 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/376798946.html -- 220b $800 That should do it for today. I must go and fix a tile floor and see about changing the oil in the van. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Interesting, a quick google search agrees with you. The welding book I own says brazing is no good for 4130. More searching seems to say as long as the 4130 isn't heat treated you'll be okay. That said it appears alot of the 4130 used now is heat treated... -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 A LOT of bikes are brazed 4130 I am pretty sure brazing CroMo was common "back in the day" for race cars and aircraft.. -Zach --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brazing is stonger than you think. 60-85,000 psi or something like > that. > Of course fusion welding is better especially because brazing is NOT > right for 4130 steel. > > -Curt > - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about draining via the radiator petcock (I have waited to use that > word). And then, when ready, fill with plain water and run for a > while, then drain. Then perhaps repeat until you feel you have gotten > all the old coolant out. Then when you add your 50% mix, factor in the > straight water that is remaining in the block? If you do that, enough times to feel you have close to 100% water in the system, you would want to drain it one more time, add pure undiluted coolant in the amount of 1/2 the system capacity, then top up to full with water. If you are adding a 50% coolant mix and there's already water in the system, you will end up with too weak a mix. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
You must be right, Curt. I popped in to the local Napa and my eyes fell upon cases of G05. I asked the price and it's only $10.99. Brian On 7/25/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've gotten G-05 at Carquest and seen it at Autozone. Its not all that > uncommon., probably won't see it at Wal-mart though. > > I would expect where your area is somewhat of a haven for older european cars > it'd be easy enough to find. > I put it in a snowmobile last spring. Now that sled doesn't start at all > Not saying its related, just that I hate coolant work. On that job I learned > about the bolt in the head that releases the air bubble trapped there. > I found it after I overheated the sled. > On my wife's motorcycle I found that its VERY easy to crossthread the > drainplug and break it. Then I found its really easy to break the casing when > you take it apart. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:26:04 -0700 > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I think that's the way I'll attempt to dispose of it too. > > Right now I believe the car has the green stuff in it. Time to see who > carries G05 or 6 or whatever around here. > > Brian > > > - > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
You know, I bet cracking open the block plug could be quite difficult (read too hardcore for my blood). How about draining via the radiator petcock (I have waited to use that word). And then, when ready, fill with plain water and run for a while, then drain. Then perhaps repeat until you feel you have gotten all the old coolant out. Then when you add your 50% mix, factor in the straight water that is remaining in the block? Just came up with this. Brian 87 190D 83 240D David wrote: IIRC, on a 617 opening the rad drain will not drain the block below the water pump. You'll get about 2/3 of the coolant out if you don't open the block drain. OTOH, getting to the block drain can be a royal PITA. Measure what comes out the rad drain and you'll know how much is left in the system for flushing/mixing purposes. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lightbulb mail list
Uh, we have seen this one a few time Luther. clay On 25 Jul 2007, at 09:10, Luther wrote: > Sound familiar to our list? :) > > Internet Forum Lightbulb Maintenance... > > How many online forum group members does it take to change a > lightbulb? > > 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been > changed. > > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the > light bulb > could have been changed differently. > > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing > light bulbs. > > 53 to flame the spell checkers. > > 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames. > > 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another > 6 to condemn > those 6 as anal-retentive > > 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term > is "lamp". > > 15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that > "light bulb" is > perfectly correct. > > 156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in > violation of > their "acceptable use policy". > > 109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please > take this > discussion to a lightbulb group > > 203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic > forum, and > lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped. > > 111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use > light bulbs and > therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group. > > 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, > where to buy the > best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique, and > what brands are faulty. > > 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs. > > 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the > corrected > URL's. > > 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant > to this group > which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. > > 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety > including all headers > and signatures, and add "Me too". > > 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they > cannot handle > the light bulb controversy. > > 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three". > > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > > 44 to ask what is a "FAQ". > > 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" > > 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting > questions about > light bulbs". > > 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now > and start it > all over again > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads
Allan Streib wrote: > I used a bit of parafin on the threads last time, per Dr. Booth's > recommendatian. > > "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your >> lug nuts/bolts. The Mercedes lug nut spec is virtually the same for a clean dry lug and a lubricated one. The bulk of the friction is on the seat and NOT the threads. Mercedes allows anti-seize on the threads but NOT on the seat. Thats why I use paraffin wax. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting overafter A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
Yea, I have been looking for a machine myself, have not found one yet.
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From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting
overafter A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
> Ernest I bought a SUN recovery/recharging unit off ebay years ago. When
> doing one of the cars with R12 I connect the unit, suck all the existing
> Freon out and let it pull a vacuum, takes about an hour. As long as there
> aren't any leaks I refill it with Freeze 12. The Freeze 12 stuff seems to
> work fine. I need to find a similar recycle machine for R134 so I can do
> some work on the 600SEL A/C system - the compressor is making noise.
>
> James Zavesky
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of ernest breakfield
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:58 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over
>> after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
>>
>> James touches on an interesting point; if i were to need to service the
>> A/C, what's the best way to deal with an original R12 system? i'm not
>> eager to go through the whole costly procedure to convert to the less
>> efficient R134a refrigerant, so is there still a recommended way to get
>> R12?
>>
>>
>> cheers!
>> e
>>
>>
>> James Zavesky wrote:
>> > Low Freon. Your A/C compressor isn't kicking on during specific weather
>> that
>> > can cause the windows to condense up. Charge the A/C.
>> >
>> > James Zavesky
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
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>> >> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 PM
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85
>> 300D)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>> >>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
>> >>> becomes
>> >>> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
>> >>> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
>> >>>
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
Ernest I bought a SUN recovery/recharging unit off ebay years ago. When
doing one of the cars with R12 I connect the unit, suck all the existing
Freon out and let it pull a vacuum, takes about an hour. As long as there
aren't any leaks I refill it with Freeze 12. The Freeze 12 stuff seems to
work fine. I need to find a similar recycle machine for R134 so I can do
some work on the 600SEL A/C system - the compressor is making noise.
James Zavesky
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of ernest breakfield
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over
> after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
>
> James touches on an interesting point; if i were to need to service the
> A/C, what's the best way to deal with an original R12 system? i'm not
> eager to go through the whole costly procedure to convert to the less
> efficient R134a refrigerant, so is there still a recommended way to get
> R12?
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> James Zavesky wrote:
> > Low Freon. Your A/C compressor isn't kicking on during specific weather
> that
> > can cause the windows to condense up. Charge the A/C.
> >
> > James Zavesky
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85
> 300D)
> >>
> >>
> >>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
> >>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
> >>> becomes
> >>> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
> >>> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
> >>>
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability?
ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James touches on an interesting point; if i were to need to service > the A/C, what's the best way to deal with an original R12 system? > i'm not eager to go through the whole costly procedure to convert to > the less efficient R134a refrigerant, so is there still a > recommended way to get R12? You can get a licence to legally purchase it; it's trivial, an short open book "test" I think. There are also R12 replacements, e.g. Freeze12, AutoFrost. If you google those you'll probably find others as well. They have pros and cons. You do have to evacuate the R12 to use those I think, but not convert the oil etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
eBay for replacement, your local shop with a recovery system for
evacuation
Tom
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Subject: [MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over
after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
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James touches on an interesting point; if i were to need to service the
A/C, what's the best way to deal with an original R12 system? i'm not
eager to go through the whole costly procedure to convert to the less
efficient R134a refrigerant, so is there still a recommended way to get
R12?
cheers!
e
James Zavesky wrote:
> Low Freon. Your A/C compressor isn't kicking on during specific
weather that
> can cause the windows to condense up. Charge the A/C.
>
> James Zavesky
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85
300D)
>>
>>
>>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
>>> becomes
>>> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
>>> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
>>>
>
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[MBZ] A/C/ R12 availability? (was: Re: windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D))
James touches on an interesting point; if i were to need to service the
A/C, what's the best way to deal with an original R12 system? i'm not
eager to go through the whole costly procedure to convert to the less
efficient R134a refrigerant, so is there still a recommended way to get R12?
cheers!
e
James Zavesky wrote:
> Low Freon. Your A/C compressor isn't kicking on during specific weather that
> can cause the windows to condense up. Charge the A/C.
>
> James Zavesky
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
>>
>>
>>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
>>> becomes
>>> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
>>> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
>>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
IIRC, on a 617 opening the rad drain will not drain the block below the water pump. You'll get about 2/3 of the coolant out if you don't open the block drain. OTOH, getting to the block drain can be a royal PITA. Measure what comes out the rad drain and you'll know how much is left in the system for flushing/mixing purposes. D. >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:16:11 -0400 >From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications > >I've never bothered with block drains and such - there should be a large >plastic drain plug in the lower front corner of the radiator - remove that >and 99% of the coolant will rush out. > >When you remove the water pump there might be a small bit more coolant but >not much (no more than a couple of ounces) you can then remove the old >t'stat and dry the area with paper towels to get ready to install the new >pump. > >That's how I did it last year on my 91 300D 2.5T (W124) which is similar to >your engine I believe. > >Good luck - > >Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >. > >- Original Message - >From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:25 AM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications > > >> "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> It is a VERY easy job - you don't even need a lift. Tools required are a >>> large flat bladed screwdriver and a drain pan. >> >> Is there one place to open up that will drain everything -- radiator, >> block, heater core? When I've done this job on other cars I've had to >> remove plugs in the block to get the block drained, etc. then the >> coolant tends to splash around and get all over the floor. It's just >> a really messy job in my experience. >> >> I have used the Prestone back-flush kit (not on an MB though) and >> that was pretty convenient, assuming you have a floor drain or large >> container to catch all the flushed-out liquid. >> >> Allan >> >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shifter??
So what is happening with the shifter on Gump? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
A LOT of bikes are brazed 4130 I am pretty sure brazing CroMo was common "back in the day" for race cars and aircraft.. -Zach --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brazing is stonger than you think. 60-85,000 psi or something like > that. > Of course fusion welding is better especially because brazing is NOT > right for 4130 steel. > > -Curt > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've never bothered with block drains and such - there should be a > large plastic drain plug in the lower front corner of the radiator - > remove that and 99% of the coolant will rush out. In my old Toyota truck, roughly 40% of the coolant was in the block and would need to be drained by removing a plug in the block. Draining the radiator alone would not accomplish this. The old M180 in my W110 has a similar plug in the block. Was not sure about the OM617. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: '91 Saab 900
Curt, Electrical system. My 90 Saab 900s made Lucas look like the beacon of light. The main junction block, melted down one-was jury rigged. When the wires going into the block got funky again I sold it. I am sorry I didn't have new block and relays and some wiring put in as it was a great car. But offer them 450 just for the hell of it. Good luck. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:06 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: '91 Saab 900 So tomorrow I'm going to look at the '91 Saab 900. I'm going to try to Kaleb the price which shouldn't be too hard considering he's asking $600. I know theres something up with the clutch, the headliner is sagging and the seats need covers. Anything else I should look for? -Curt - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
I've gotten G-05 at Carquest and seen it at Autozone. Its not all that uncommon., probably won't see it at Wal-mart though. I would expect where your area is somewhat of a haven for older european cars it'd be easy enough to find. I put it in a snowmobile last spring. Now that sled doesn't start at all Not saying its related, just that I hate coolant work. On that job I learned about the bolt in the head that releases the air bubble trapped there. I found it after I overheated the sled. On my wife's motorcycle I found that its VERY easy to crossthread the drainplug and break it. Then I found its really easy to break the casing when you take it apart. -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:26:04 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think that's the way I'll attempt to dispose of it too. Right now I believe the car has the green stuff in it. Time to see who carries G05 or 6 or whatever around here. Brian - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Brazing is stonger than you think. 60-85,000 psi or something like that. Of course fusion welding is better especially because brazing is NOT right for 4130 steel. -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:21:40 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames To: Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey Zach, You are so right. The tube accepts a rectangular bracket, and it appears that the break is in the bracket. Brazing doesn't sound very strong. So I guess it broke before and someone brazed it. I did put in maybe a year or so of hard use on the bike and it held. I have been learning that the point of breakage is one of the highest stressed areas of the frame. Amazing that it held. Seems like a poor design in the first place. Brian - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Brazing is actually extremely strong, as strong or stronger than welding with the advantage of a lower temperature during construction. but like everything else a lot of the strength lies in the joint design. I will still be happy to take a crack at it! :) --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Zach, > > You are so right. The tube accepts a rectangular bracket, and it > appears that the break is in the bracket. > > Brazing doesn't sound very strong. So I guess it broke before and > someone brazed it. I did put in maybe a year or so of hard use on the > bike and it held. I have been learning that the point of breakage is > one of the highest stressed areas of the frame. Amazing that it held. > > Seems like a poor design in the first place. > > Brian > > On 7/25/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorry for the slow reply... > > > > The brass-colored metal means that the frame is brazed, not welded. > > This *might* mean that the frame is "lugged" which means that the > > various joint pieces are a slip-fit inside/outside the tubes which > is > > then brazed. > > > > Hard to tell from the pics but are you sure the break is in the > tube or > > is it in the bracket that the tube is attached to? Is the center > of > > the break hollow or solid? > > > > The bracket might be a different kind of metal. > > > > > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Zach, > > > > > > I have scraped away the JB Weld, and it is bare now. > > > > > > In doing so, I discovered some brass-colored material there. I > wonder > > > if it has been welded before. This stuff would not scrape off. > > > > > > I am attaching four pictures that show the break from different > > > angles > > > and will hopefully give you a pretty good idea what we're dealing > > > with. > > > > > > The broken tube sort of necks down to a rectangular shape and > that is > > > where the break is. > > > > > > I do not care about cosmetics here - the bike already looks like > > > trash. But it's a good bike (except for the broken frame). > > > > > > So you are tied up on Tuesday night - how about Wednesday night? > > > > > > And let me know your favorite beer or coffee or something I can > bring > > > as a thanks offering. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Brian > > > Bainbridge Island cel. number: 507-398-7836 > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a meeting tomorrow night but any time after that should > be > > > fine. > > > > I will be here next weekend as well. If you want to email me > some > > > > pics of the area just to be sure I think I can weld it that > might > > > save > > > > you a trip. > > > > > > > > My address is: > > > > 403 South Bay Rd NE > > > > Olympia, WA > > > > > > > > -Zach 360-789-2458 > > > > > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I can get scrapin'. > > > > > > > > > > I am on Bainbridge Island. After work during the week would > be > > > good > > > > > for me - earlier in the week perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe email me off-list and we can set up a time, if all > still > > > sounds > > > > > workable for you. > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Where are you at? After work during the week is always > good or > > > > > maybe > > > > > > next weekend. I can get the rod as I need to head to the > > > welding > > > > > store > > > > > > to get tanks filled anyways. > > > > > > > > > > > > but its up to you to scrape the JBWeld and epoxy off of > that > > > > > sucker! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > -Zach > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, I would tool on down there with my ol' bike in trunk > of > > > 240D > > > > > and > > > > > > > take you up on your offer if you're game. Name the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could try to get the type of rod that was mentioned > earlier > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > thread (I'll have to go back and re-read). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in Olympia and I have a TIG welder if you want me > to > > > give > > > > > it a > > > > > > > > shot. There is also stevenson bikes downtown who is a > > > custom > > > > > frame > > > > > > > > builder, he would probably charge you though whereas I > will > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Zach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:05:59 -0700 > > > > > > > > > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames > > > > > > > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > > > format=flowed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Funny - I'm sure more than a few people go into the "yo quiero" routine when they see your chiuahuas. In a parking lot the other night I saw a pug climb over a bunch of stuff to make his way back to the rear shelf and lay down. Funny! Actually my Dobie often rests his head on the top of the rear seat back and just looks back. I'm sure that's pretty cute to see. Brian On 7/25/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy - > Our Chiuahuah's (2 of them) love to go everywhere we go - one doesn't > like riding in the car a lot, but she likes staying home even less. The > other one (weighs all of 2.5#s) likes to ride in on the rear hat shelf - I > don't let her stay for long since it's dangerous, but sometimes she sits > back there while we're in the neighborhood - it's hilarious to watch her > lean into the turns.Also, I'm sure some people have mistaken her for one > of those head-bobing toys that sit on the hat shelf - until she moves and > surprises them. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch] > > > > You mean you have a GSD that doesn't whine and obsessively surge > > forward as though it wants to be a hood ornament? (I'm casting > > stereotypes here - don't worry, I love a good GSD). > > > > One thing I've noticed is that the rear seat in a 123 seems to be set > > higher so that the dog - head out window - stands up much higher than > > in my Saab. I think that my Dobie's show-cropped ears must sit higher > > than the roofline. I hear comments from passers by pointing to how big > > a dog he is. He is not that big. > > > > The high carriage of the seat taught me on one occasion that I must > > keep the windows about half way up so he doesn't jump out. We were > > rolling slowly through a park when his extremely high prey drive drove > > him out the window after a squirrel. He wound up doing a forward flip > > (I think) and thankfully did not injure his neck! > > > > I kep rolling and opened the rear door and called him back into the > > vehicle. > > > > A mother attending her children at the play set was understandably > > stimied with fear as he blasted past her little boy, skimming inches > > from him on his beeline toward the rodent. > > > > Brian > > > > On 7/24/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:49:07 -0700 "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > He LOVED the W123 300D's and would fall asleep with his head on the > >> > armrest so that his nose was facing forward through the grab handle. > >> > >> That's exactly how our German Shepherd rides in our W123! She loves it. > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 > > 7:45 PM > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
lexington, va remains one of my favorite places and happens to be between atlanta and new york. it has lost much of it's redneck character over the years and seems a bit too trendy nowadays. still have a southern feel to it though and is especially nice by gen jackson's grave on either memorial day. On 7/25/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This may be true of other states, but if you get into Va on the Bue Ridge > PW, check with some of the state parks as they offer beautiful cottages > deep > in the forests - some by themselves - with no phones, TV, etc. Some have > outside bathrooms,..err... make that toilet - > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tourism? > > > >i don't like leaving the country. in fact, there are very few places i > > actually travel to > > > > 1. blue ridge mountain area. home of mountains and lakes and rivers > and > > drew the wood guy will make lunch when you get back. pigeon forge very > > family friendly. > > 2. rockland county, new york. cheap lodging still available, yet > within > > easy distance of both NYC and catskills. stone's throw from montvale, > nj > > and jaime. > > 3. hollywood beach, florida. home of thomas youngman and my mom. once > > pretty run down, the place has made a comeback in recent years, yet > still > > more budget minded than trendy. beachside parking not difficult to find > > outside of peak tourist season. > > > > these place plus whatever you pass getting to them from atlanta is all > the > > world travel i'm interested in. pretty cosmopolitan, huh? > > > > On 7/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > < the > >> > states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry > >> rifles but > >> > yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble > >> with > >> > odometers.>> > >> > > >> Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does not > >> benefit > >> from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash flowing > >> into > >> Oz > >> from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. Although I > >> have > >> not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here and > >> there. > >> Such as: > >> > >> Canada > >> Mexico > >> Iceland > >> Netherlands > >> France > >> Germany > >> Belgium > >> Denmark > >> Luxembourg > >> Italy > >> Yugoslavia > >> Austria > >> Switzerland > >> Lichtenstein > >> United Kingdom > >> China > >> Taiwan > >> Malaysia > >> Singapore > >> Thailand > >> Japan > >> > >> RLE > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ** > >> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: > 7/25/2007 > > 1:16 AM > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
I think that's the way I'll attempt to dispose of it too. Right now I believe the car has the green stuff in it. Time to see who carries G05 or 6 or whatever around here. Brian On 7/25/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's a job I usually send out also. Mainly because I have no good > > way to dispose of the old coolant -- we're on a septic system and > > I put it in milk jugs, the county waste disposal site takes it free. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
It may depend on who drives the car. I see a large population of 3/5 series BMW at the PNP with no body damage or nasty interior. Seems to be some other issue has caused the car to end up there. clay On 24 Jul 2007, at 23:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/23/2007 7:12:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car > and I saw > a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, > "maintained as > if I'd drive it forever." > > Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? > Should I consider it or run away screaming? > > > > The 535s MAY BE the best driving all around 4 door sedans ever > made. A > friend of mine did have trouble with a sheared off oil pump drive > shaft which > caused rod bearing failure. I saw the drive shaft and it is long > and slender, > probably supposed to flex to absorb pulsations, about 5/16" hex if > I recall. > You might google that topic and see if it's a problem. > > I would suggest a nice synthetic 0W-30, as opposed to a 50 weight > racing oil. > > Good luck, > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 267 K miles > 98 ML 320, 151 K miles > > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Hey Zach, You are so right. The tube accepts a rectangular bracket, and it appears that the break is in the bracket. Brazing doesn't sound very strong. So I guess it broke before and someone brazed it. I did put in maybe a year or so of hard use on the bike and it held. I have been learning that the point of breakage is one of the highest stressed areas of the frame. Amazing that it held. Seems like a poor design in the first place. Brian On 7/25/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry for the slow reply... > > The brass-colored metal means that the frame is brazed, not welded. > This *might* mean that the frame is "lugged" which means that the > various joint pieces are a slip-fit inside/outside the tubes which is > then brazed. > > Hard to tell from the pics but are you sure the break is in the tube or > is it in the bracket that the tube is attached to? Is the center of > the break hollow or solid? > > The bracket might be a different kind of metal. > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Zach, > > > > I have scraped away the JB Weld, and it is bare now. > > > > In doing so, I discovered some brass-colored material there. I wonder > > if it has been welded before. This stuff would not scrape off. > > > > I am attaching four pictures that show the break from different > > angles > > and will hopefully give you a pretty good idea what we're dealing > > with. > > > > The broken tube sort of necks down to a rectangular shape and that is > > where the break is. > > > > I do not care about cosmetics here - the bike already looks like > > trash. But it's a good bike (except for the broken frame). > > > > So you are tied up on Tuesday night - how about Wednesday night? > > > > And let me know your favorite beer or coffee or something I can bring > > as a thanks offering. > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > Bainbridge Island cel. number: 507-398-7836 > > > > On 7/23/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I have a meeting tomorrow night but any time after that should be > > fine. > > > I will be here next weekend as well. If you want to email me some > > > pics of the area just to be sure I think I can weld it that might > > save > > > you a trip. > > > > > > My address is: > > > 403 South Bay Rd NE > > > Olympia, WA > > > > > > -Zach 360-789-2458 > > > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I can get scrapin'. > > > > > > > > I am on Bainbridge Island. After work during the week would be > > good > > > > for me - earlier in the week perhaps. > > > > > > > > Maybe email me off-list and we can set up a time, if all still > > sounds > > > > workable for you. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Where are you at? After work during the week is always good or > > > > maybe > > > > > next weekend. I can get the rod as I need to head to the > > welding > > > > store > > > > > to get tanks filled anyways. > > > > > > > > > > but its up to you to scrape the JBWeld and epoxy off of that > > > > sucker! > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > > > > -Zach > > > > > > > > > > --- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, I would tool on down there with my ol' bike in trunk of > > 240D > > > > and > > > > > > take you up on your offer if you're game. Name the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I could try to get the type of rod that was mentioned earlier > > in > > > > this > > > > > > thread (I'll have to go back and re-read). > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in Olympia and I have a TIG welder if you want me to > > give > > > > it a > > > > > > > shot. There is also stevenson bikes downtown who is a > > custom > > > > frame > > > > > > > builder, he would probably charge you though whereas I will > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Zach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:05:59 -0700 > > > > > > > > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames > > > > > > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > > format=flowed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you aren't one of the Washington crew? I am still > > confused > > > > on > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > everybody's from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __
Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
This may be true of other states, but if you get into Va on the Bue Ridge PW, check with some of the state parks as they offer beautiful cottages deep in the forests - some by themselves - with no phones, TV, etc. Some have outside bathrooms,..err... make that toilet - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tourism? >i don't like leaving the country. in fact, there are very few places i > actually travel to > > 1. blue ridge mountain area. home of mountains and lakes and rivers and > drew the wood guy will make lunch when you get back. pigeon forge very > family friendly. > 2. rockland county, new york. cheap lodging still available, yet within > easy distance of both NYC and catskills. stone's throw from montvale, nj > and jaime. > 3. hollywood beach, florida. home of thomas youngman and my mom. once > pretty run down, the place has made a comeback in recent years, yet still > more budget minded than trendy. beachside parking not difficult to find > outside of peak tourist season. > > these place plus whatever you pass getting to them from atlanta is all the > world travel i'm interested in. pretty cosmopolitan, huh? > > On 7/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > <> > states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry >> rifles but >> > yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble >> with >> > odometers.>> >> > >> Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does not >> benefit >> from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash flowing >> into >> Oz >> from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. Although I >> have >> not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here and >> there. >> Such as: >> >> Canada >> Mexico >> Iceland >> Netherlands >> France >> Germany >> Belgium >> Denmark >> Luxembourg >> Italy >> Yugoslavia >> Austria >> Switzerland >> Lichtenstein >> United Kingdom >> China >> Taiwan >> Malaysia >> Singapore >> Thailand >> Japan >> >> RLE >> >> >> >> >> ** >> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 > 1:16 AM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list
Me Tooo!! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list > Didnt somebody just post this? > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 PP Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter T. Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Bez Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:44 AM > Subject: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list > > >> Sound familiar to our list? :) >> >> Internet Forum Lightbulb Maintenance... >> >> How many online forum group members does it take to change a >> lightbulb? >> >> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been >> changed. >> >> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the >> light bulb >> could have been changed differently. >> >> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. >> >> 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light >> bulbs. >> >> 53 to flame the spell checkers. >> >> 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames. >> >> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another 6 >> to condemn >> those 6 as anal-retentive >> >> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is >> "lamp". >> >> 15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light >> bulb" is >> perfectly correct. >> >> 156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in >> violation of >> their "acceptable use policy". >> >> 109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please >> take this >> discussion to a lightbulb group >> >> 203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, >> and >> lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped. >> >> 111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light >> bulbs and >> therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group. >> >> 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where >> to buy the >> best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this >> technique, and >> what brands are faulty. >> >> 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs. >> >> 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the >> corrected >> URL's. >> >> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to >> this group >> which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. >> >> 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including >> all headers >> and signatures, and add "Me too". >> >> 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they >> cannot handle >> the light bulb controversy. >> >> 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three". >> >> 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. >> >> 44 to ask what is a "FAQ". >> >> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" >> >> 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions >> about >> light bulbs". >> >> 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and >> start it >> all over again >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Peter T. Arnold >> >> 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! >> 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson >> 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi >> 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen >> Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 > 1:16 AM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
I've never bothered with block drains and such - there should be a large plastic drain plug in the lower front corner of the radiator - remove that and 99% of the coolant will rush out. When you remove the water pump there might be a small bit more coolant but not much (no more than a couple of ounces) you can then remove the old t'stat and dry the area with paper towels to get ready to install the new pump. That's how I did it last year on my 91 300D 2.5T (W124) which is similar to your engine I believe. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications > "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It is a VERY easy job - you don't even need a lift. Tools required are a >> large flat bladed screwdriver and a drain pan. > > Is there one place to open up that will drain everything -- radiator, > block, heater core? When I've done this job on other cars I've had to > remove plugs in the block to get the block drained, etc. then the > coolant tends to splash around and get all over the floor. It's just > a really messy job in my experience. > > I have used the Prestone back-flush kit (not on an MB though) and > that was pretty convenient, assuming you have a floor drain or large > container to catch all the flushed-out liquid. > > Allan > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 > 1:16 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
i don't like leaving the country. in fact, there are very few places i actually travel to 1. blue ridge mountain area. home of mountains and lakes and rivers and drew the wood guy will make lunch when you get back. pigeon forge very family friendly. 2. rockland county, new york. cheap lodging still available, yet within easy distance of both NYC and catskills. stone's throw from montvale, nj and jaime. 3. hollywood beach, florida. home of thomas youngman and my mom. once pretty run down, the place has made a comeback in recent years, yet still more budget minded than trendy. beachside parking not difficult to find outside of peak tourist season. these place plus whatever you pass getting to them from atlanta is all the world travel i'm interested in. pretty cosmopolitan, huh? On 7/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < > states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry > rifles but > > yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble > with > > odometers.>> > > > Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does not > benefit > from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash flowing into > Oz > from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. Although I > have > not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here and > there. > Such as: > > Canada > Mexico > Iceland > Netherlands > France > Germany > Belgium > Denmark > Luxembourg > Italy > Yugoslavia > Austria > Switzerland > Lichtenstein > United Kingdom > China > Taiwan > Malaysia > Singapore > Thailand > Japan > > RLE > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: '91 Saab 900
So tomorrow I'm going to look at the '91 Saab 900. I'm going to try to Kaleb the price which shouldn't be too hard considering he's asking $600. I know theres something up with the clutch, the headliner is sagging and the seats need covers. Anything else I should look for? -Curt - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
Yeah, but Roger, you are on in years, rich enough to purchase a new C class car. The rest of us are just poor old saps with clapped out used cars. On 24 Jul 2007, at 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> the >> states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and >> carry rifles but >> yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have >> trouble with >> odometers.>> >> > Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does > not benefit > from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash > flowing into Oz > from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. > Although I have > not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here > and there. > Such as: > > Canada > Mexico > Iceland > Netherlands > France > Germany > Belgium > Denmark > Luxembourg > Italy > Yugoslavia > Austria > Switzerland > Lichtenstein > United Kingdom > China > Taiwan > Malaysia > Singapore > Thailand > Japan > > RLE -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:22:31 -0500, you wrote: >Didnt somebody just post this? > >--- >Kaleb C. Striplin >Cox Auto Trader >730 PP Supervisor > Great minds think alike. Sorry if I double posted, I must have been sniffing too many gasoline fumes! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list
Didnt somebody just post this? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Peter T. Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bez Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list > Sound familiar to our list? :) > > Internet Forum Lightbulb Maintenance... > > How many online forum group members does it take to change a > lightbulb? > > 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been > changed. > > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the > light bulb > could have been changed differently. > > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light > bulbs. > > 53 to flame the spell checkers. > > 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames. > > 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another 6 > to condemn > those 6 as anal-retentive > > 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is > "lamp". > > 15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light > bulb" is > perfectly correct. > > 156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in > violation of > their "acceptable use policy". > > 109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please > take this > discussion to a lightbulb group > > 203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, > and > lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped. > > 111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light > bulbs and > therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group. > > 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where > to buy the > best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique, and > what brands are faulty. > > 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs. > > 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the > corrected > URL's. > > 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to > this group > which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. > > 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including > all headers > and signatures, and add "Me too". > > 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they > cannot handle > the light bulb controversy. > > 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three". > > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > > 44 to ask what is a "FAQ". > > 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" > > 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions > about > light bulbs". > > 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and > start it > all over again > > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lightbulb mail list
AND Marshall to suggest we check the fuses first! RAndy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:11 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Lightbulb mail list Sound familiar to our list? :) Internet Forum Lightbulb Maintenance... How many online forum group members does it take to change a lightbulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers. 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames. 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp". 15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct. 156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in violation of their "acceptable use policy". 109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb group 203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, and lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs. 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's. 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too". 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three". 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 44 to ask what is a "FAQ". 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs". 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T: Lightbulb mail list
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[MBZ] Lightbulb mail list
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Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is a VERY easy job - you don't even need a lift. Tools required are a > large flat bladed screwdriver and a drain pan. Is there one place to open up that will drain everything -- radiator, block, heater core? When I've done this job on other cars I've had to remove plugs in the block to get the block drained, etc. then the coolant tends to splash around and get all over the floor. It's just a really messy job in my experience. I have used the Prestone back-flush kit (not on an MB though) and that was pretty convenient, assuming you have a floor drain or large container to catch all the flushed-out liquid. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Christopher McCann wrote: > > Kevin, you mentioned Joel is a service dog. Is he a seeing eye dog, Since he belongs to Kevin, I'd say that's it. Now you know why Kevin had more than the usual trouble finding a vacuum hose that got knocked loose on his 300SD. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Howdy - Our Chiuahuah's (2 of them) love to go everywhere we go - one doesn't like riding in the car a lot, but she likes staying home even less. The other one (weighs all of 2.5#s) likes to ride in on the rear hat shelf - I don't let her stay for long since it's dangerous, but sometimes she sits back there while we're in the neighborhood - it's hilarious to watch her lean into the turns.Also, I'm sure some people have mistaken her for one of those head-bobing toys that sit on the hat shelf - until she moves and surprises them. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch] > You mean you have a GSD that doesn't whine and obsessively surge > forward as though it wants to be a hood ornament? (I'm casting > stereotypes here - don't worry, I love a good GSD). > > One thing I've noticed is that the rear seat in a 123 seems to be set > higher so that the dog - head out window - stands up much higher than > in my Saab. I think that my Dobie's show-cropped ears must sit higher > than the roofline. I hear comments from passers by pointing to how big > a dog he is. He is not that big. > > The high carriage of the seat taught me on one occasion that I must > keep the windows about half way up so he doesn't jump out. We were > rolling slowly through a park when his extremely high prey drive drove > him out the window after a squirrel. He wound up doing a forward flip > (I think) and thankfully did not injure his neck! > > I kep rolling and opened the rear door and called him back into the > vehicle. > > A mother attending her children at the play set was understandably > stimied with fear as he blasted past her little boy, skimming inches > from him on his beeline toward the rodent. > > Brian > > On 7/24/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:49:07 -0700 "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > He LOVED the W123 300D's and would fall asleep with his head on the >> > armrest so that his nose was facing forward through the grab handle. >> >> That's exactly how our German Shepherd rides in our W123! She loves it. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 > 7:45 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars ]
Yes, while both of my Golden Retrievers love to ride in the back seta of the 240D, my older golden, sleeps on the seat with his chin on eh armrest exactly as you describe. The younger one sits at alert in the back seat. When parked downtown, they both rest their chins on the back of the rear seat, looking out the back window. (Which is covered with bugs being a 240D) Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch] How funny that your dog does this too! Joel doesn't do this in the 300SD. Perhaps the angle is different due to the height of the armrest above the seat. I guess I'll have to buy another W123 to compare.:-) Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
> that's a job I usually send out also. Mainly because I have no good > way to dispose of the old coolant -- we're on a septic system and I put it in milk jugs, the county waste disposal site takes it free. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
Anke loves car rides and lays on the floor in front of the passenger seat. Sammy is not so crazy about car rides and has to be consigned to the back with the arm rest UP (to keep him from weasling forward. Sometimes he lays on the floor, sometimes on the seat and sometimes stands on the seat...he has a hard time getting comfy. And if you drive like Juan Maneul Fangio, he throws up. Anke never gets car sick. This is in the SD. Kevin, you mentioned Joel is a service dog. Is he a seeing eye dog, a dog for the deaf, help someone with mobility challenges, seizure alert dog? I recently read a story about a low sugar alert dog (for a diabetic) - amazing thing is that the dog had no training and was rescued from a local (Kansas City) shelter. Chris Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How funny that your dog does this too! Joel doesn't do this in the 300SD. Perhaps the angle is different due to the height of the armrest above the seat. I guess I'll have to buy another W123 to compare.:-) Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri "Anke" (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd "Sammy" (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd -- "Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz." -1985 300SD, 223K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
It is a VERY easy job - you don't even need a lift. Tools required are a large flat bladed screwdriver and a drain pan. After you refill the mixture of MB coolant and tap water, you will need to drive around to get the air bubbles out of the system. Then stop and release the radiator or tank cap, let the car sit awhile, and top off with the proper mixture. Might have to do this twice to get the system completely refilled. On 7/25/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm debating if I change the coolant myself this weekend or save it > > for my Indy to do in early August. I have bad luck with changing > > coolant, seems like every time it comes up its also time for a > > radiator. > > that's a job I usually send out also. Mainly because I have no good > way to dispose of the old coolant -- we're on a septic system and > although I've heard that ethylene glycol biodegrades pretty well I > somehow don't think it'd be good to put it in the septic. > > Nor do I want to dump it on the ground, we have a couple of dogs > running around. > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm debating if I change the coolant myself this weekend or save it > for my Indy to do in early August. I have bad luck with changing > coolant, seems like every time it comes up its also time for a > radiator. that's a job I usually send out also. Mainly because I have no good way to dispose of the old coolant -- we're on a septic system and although I've heard that ethylene glycol biodegrades pretty well I somehow don't think it'd be good to put it in the septic. Nor do I want to dump it on the ground, we have a couple of dogs running around. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
yes, and increased wear --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications > Okay, on the 190D, the temperature stays around 60 unless it's hot > outside and I'm driving sort of rigorously. > > I think that the optimal temperature is 80, yes? > > So is an incorrect thermostat in there? > > And could this cause less than optimal fuel mileage? > > Brian > 87 190D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
Yup and yup.
When I first got my 190D ("Its perfect, drive it home!") the temp wouldn't come
above 40C. New thermostat fixed that.
I'm debating if I change the coolant myself this weekend or save it for my Indy
to do in early August. I have bad luck with changing coolant, seems like every
time it comes up its also time for a radiator.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:38:46 -0700
From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
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Okay, on the 190D, the temperature stays around 60 unless it's hot
outside and I'm driving sort of rigorously.
I think that the optimal temperature is 80, yes?
So is an incorrect thermostat in there?
And could this cause less than optimal fuel mileage?
Brian
87 190D
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Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
> i wasn't able to locate with any certainty what might be the > condenser drain; any tips/hints on where to find it? Directly over the transmission, usually one on each side. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
> Okay, on the 190D, the temperature stays around 60 unless it's hot > outside and I'm driving sort of rigorously. Not right. > I think that the optimal temperature is 80, yes? A little above, yes. > So is an incorrect thermostat in there? Possibly. Or it has just fatigued with age and isn't closing right. There are other possibilities, such as a sender problem. I like to confirm the head temperature with an IR thermometer before changing thermostats, but if you don't have such you can just go ahead and try a new one. That's where to start. Keep in mind that there is a fair incidence of thermostat failure right out of the box, so be on the lookout for that. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's good! > And could this cause less than optimal fuel mileage? If true, yes. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
Well most likely when you shut the A/C off the vents are switching to the
defrost mode due to a leak in one of the actuators. Thus the cold air hits
the windshield causing the condensation. The condensation will most likely
be on the outside of windshield and removed with wipers.
Trampas
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On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:03 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
Using the A/C is supposed to clear foggy windows, might be a blocked drain
hole or some such thing.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
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Re: [MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
You need a new thermostat. Marshall On 7/25/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, on the 190D, the temperature stays around 60 unless it's hot > outside and I'm driving sort of rigorously. > > I think that the optimal temperature is 80, yes? > > So is an incorrect thermostat in there? > > And could this cause less than optimal fuel mileage? > > Brian > 87 190D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs in cars [was: Re: OT: Saab 900 Clutch]
How funny that your dog does this too! Joel doesn't do this in the 300SD. Perhaps the angle is different due to the height of the armrest above the seat. I guess I'll have to buy another W123 to compare.:-) Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
Using the A/C is supposed to clear foggy windows, might be a blocked drain
hole or some such thing.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
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Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
You might want to adjust your humour modulator Roger, a slight tweak to the left should do it:-) Actually while travelling I have meet a few yanks but most of them pretend to be Canadian:-)) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tourism? >> <> states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry >> rifles but >> yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble >> with >> odometers.>> >> > Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does not > benefit > from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash flowing into > Oz > from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. Although I > have > not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here and > there. > Such as: > > Canada > Mexico > Iceland > Netherlands > France > Germany > Belgium > Denmark > Luxembourg > Italy > Yugoslavia > Austria > Switzerland > Lichtenstein > United Kingdom > China > Taiwan > Malaysia > Singapore > Thailand > Japan > > RLE > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: > 23/07/2007 7:45 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi Barry! (first; no "ernie" here,... ;-) ) i'm familiar with the conditions that lead to condensation; in case i wasn't clear enough earlier, we're talking a relatively new occurrence in this car that goes far beyond mere normal condensation. the buildup is enough that you can't see through it, until you've given it enough time and air circulation that the buildup is allowed to evaporate, or you turn the A/C back on...!? cheers! e Barry Stark wrote: > Ernie - > Consider this...you have warm moist air inside your car. When it gets near > something cold, the moisture in the air changes state from a gas, water > vapor, to a liquid, water. You have seen this on the outside of a glass of > ice water. If the warm air inside the car is circulated through the Air > conditioning unit, the change of state takes place on the outside of the > very cold evaporator inside the unit under your dash. If the A/C is off then > the evaporator is no longer that cold so water does not condense on it. Ok > so now you have the warm moist air in your car but there is a cool breeze > blowing on the windshield, thus the > change of state takes place on your cool windshield and the windshield fogs > up. > > Barry > > > > > >> anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving, >> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield becomes >> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a >> symptom of, and/or what i might look for? >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Low Coolant Temperature Implications
Okay, on the 190D, the temperature stays around 60 unless it's hot outside and I'm driving sort of rigorously. I think that the optimal temperature is 80, yes? So is an incorrect thermostat in there? And could this cause less than optimal fuel mileage? Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi Peter! sorry if i wasn't clear enough; this isn't occurring when i shut the engine off, but only after i shut the A/C off while the car is still running, and it isn't specific to any type of weather. (not that we're likely to have cool damp weather where i'd have the A/C on here in the SF Bay Area, anyway,...) ;-) cheers! e Peter Frederick wrote: > Pretty much normal in summer -- when the engine is shut off, the > monovalve goes open, allowing hot coolant to circulate through the > heater core as the engine cools. in cool, damp weather (summer > evenings in particular), the windshield will be cool enough that the > condensation evaporated by the now hot heater core will cause misting > on the inside. Should vanish shortly after you start up again and the > evaporator cools off and blows dry air. > > Usually worse if you have the button next to the defrost pressed. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi James!
interesting theory, but i don't think so; the AC is definitely
coming on, and it's only after i turn it off that i get the fogging on
the screen.
cheers!
e
James Zavesky wrote:
> Low Freon. Your A/C compressor isn't kicking on during specific weather that
> can cause the windows to condense up. Charge the A/C.
>
> James Zavesky
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>>> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
>>> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
>>> becomes
>>> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
>>> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi Jim! yes, i'd expect *some* vapor, but not enough that it were to cloud the windshield to total opaqueness... and it didn't behave this way over the last few years; this is a relatively new quirk. and no, the AC isn't blowing through the defroster vents (unless, of course i select the defroster). cheers! e Jim Cathey wrote: >> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving, >> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield becomes >> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a >> symptom of, and/or what i might look for? > > Some degree of that can be normal, depending on atmospheric > conditions. But I would first check to see that your AC is > not blowing up through the defroster vents, chilling the glass > so that when you shut it off and the natural evaporation of > the un-drained condensate (of which there is always going to > be some) re-condenses on the cold glass. > > The AC's not supposed to blow up the defroster vents unless > you select the button next to DEF. > > -- Jim > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
hi Tom!
safe assumption; yes, this is on the inside. 'twere it on the
outside, it wouldn't be a problem, since there's windshield wipers to
handle moisture on the outside,... ;-)
i haven't seen any sign of coolant loss, and it only happens right
after i shut off the AC, so i don't suspect the heater core.
i wasn't able to locate with any certainty what might be the
condenser drain; any tips/hints on where to find it?
cheers!
e
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> I'm assuming it's on the inside? If so then this is a symptom of one of
> two issues. One is a slow leak in the heater core and the other is a
> plugged drain line, allowing condensate to pool inside the unit.
>
> If its on the outside then it's just moisture condensing on the outside
> of your cold glass.
>
> Tom
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> Subject: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
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> hi all!
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> i've got a curious symptom that i'm hoping someone can point me to
> the cause of:
> lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
> moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield becomes
>
> bad enough as to impede visibility. any ideas as to what this is a
> symptom of, and/or what i might look for?
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> cheers!
> e
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Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
Very nice car, as nice as a Mercedes, but more expensive to keep rolling down the road. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/25/07 01:08 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In a message dated 7/23/2007 7:12:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car and I saw a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, "maintained as if I'd drive it forever." Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? Should I consider it or run away screaming? The 535s MAY BE the best driving all around 4 door sedans ever made. A friend of mine did have trouble with a sheared off oil pump drive shaft which caused rod bearing failure. I saw the drive shaft and it is long and slender, probably supposed to flex to absorb pulsations, about 5/16" hex if I recall. You might google that topic and see if it's a problem. I would suggest a nice synthetic 0W-30, as opposed to a 50 weight racing oil. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
