[MBZ] MB diesel hybrid

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Article in AutoWeek online, says MB is going to have a diesel electric hybrid out is 2010 You have to sign in for the article http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE Or :-) Mercedes-Benz plans to roll out a wide range of diesel- and hybrid-powertrain

[MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration)

2007-09-12 Thread Kevin Kraly
I'm not sure if I would do it again with the '83 'SD, but I was able to move each line out of the way on my '77 300D and tighten it back down onto the new injector. This may have opened up the possibility for later line breaks. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV

Re: [MBZ] Time to trade

2007-09-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 9/7/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am probably going to trade in the 1990 300SEL (leaking headgasket) today for a 2001 Ford Expedition. I drove it home last night. I knew when my wife and I argued over who was going to get to drive it, that I would get it. It really is VERY

Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...

2007-09-12 Thread mykd1
Yep, it even has a lighted makeup mirror.. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:28 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Must be new car

[MBZ] How to tell W116 build date

2007-09-12 Thread Ed Booher
Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in the VIN? The code tag under the hood that has the paint info? Thanks, Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration

2007-09-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
Disconnect both ends of the injector lines. Get a 17mm crows foot and use it with a socket extension and ratchet to loosen the nuts. Then the nuts should screw off by hand. You can lift off all five injector pipes as an assembly. This makes it very easy to access the injectors for

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD Nasty EngineVibration)

2007-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley
I would not disturb the line clamps, I'd take all five off the IP, then off the injectors, and move the assembly out of the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] How to tell W116 build date

2007-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Ed Booher wrote: Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in the VIN? The code tag under the hood that has the paint info? Good question. My '79 had oil cooler hoses date stamped 7/79, so I figured it was one of the last ones built. ___

Re: [MBZ] MB diesel hybrid

2007-09-12 Thread OK Don
Thanks for sharing this with us! On 9/12/07, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article in AutoWeek online, says MB is going to have a diesel electric hybrid out is 2010 You have to sign in for the article

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Merle
Marshall Your explanation that front propshaft comes with the vibration damper make a lot of sense in that the EPC does not list it seperately. The picture depicted on the EPC suggests that the mount may be part of the driveshaft. It seems that my vibration is not strictly engine rpm related and

Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Gonna get those doors done, baby! First I needed to make moisture barriers. I got one of the empty salt bags that I've used before, and found that the 107 doors are too long for this to work. I couldn't find the roll of plastic sheeting I'd bought for this purpose, but I did find a plastic

Re: [MBZ] How to tell W116 build date

2007-09-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Ed, Check the B Pillar driver side, down low. Label there contains build date to the best of my knowledge. My '80 W116 (gone) had date of 10/79. VIN was 11612012015466. Take care, Chuck On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Ed Booher wrote: Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)

2007-09-12 Thread George Larribeau
Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)

2007-09-12 Thread John Robbins
George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? I can get all of them off with a normal wrench... but a crow foot would certainly make things easier. :) John

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration

2007-09-12 Thread billr
I've not been able to follow all the threads on this due to limited time and computer problems - Is Techron concentrate safe and effective for a diesel? Much easier than doing the stuff requited for Diesel Purge. Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message-

[MBZ] 560 SEC spotted for sale in NM

2007-09-12 Thread Allan Streib
Checked the local classified ads and found this: 1988 560 SEC, 2 dr coupe, low miles, awesome condition, $5500 OBO. Ad # 4073960 at http://classifieds.abqjournal.com/ Too far out of my way to look at but thought I'd pass it along. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
The snap on trucks usually carry the metric flare nut crows foot wrenches too.if you can chase them down. Granted, they get about $22 each for them. ---Robert George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now.

[MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread John Robbins
What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Anybody have any other recommendations? Does the brand typically make POS stuff? etc.. I need something that I can store in my house (neatly in a corner somewhere) and then be able to roll it

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Doesn't look bad for the price. The question is whether you want a tool cart or a roller cabinet, you should be able to find a decent Craftsman 26 roller cab at Sears for

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Those HF flare nut wrenches are great...so long as the nuts were so loose to begin with that you could have got them off with an open end. If they're good and tight, the things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. I'll cheap out on a lot

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Another option, easier to move, but less attractive and a little low to the ground, is to get a top chest ($130-200 on sale at Sears) and mount it on a hand truck or appliance dolly. If stairs or gravel are in your path, I'd go this route. Here's a HF example, $130 cabinet, $110 chest, $66 for

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think I got my metric crowsfoot flare nut wrenched from JC Whitney, maybe 15 years back. They were not expensive. They were also not fancy. Each is a flat chunk of metal, maybe 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick with a square hole for a 3/8 in drive and the hex for the nut. I have had no problems with

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Those things are sweet! Napa had one on display a few months back , and for a few bucks less than that if I remember , but I just looked online and they're up to $389 now http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470LineCode=BKPartNumber=8156264Description=Tool+Cart that is

[MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread Glenn Brown
John, I also vote for looking into one of the Craftsman (Note: wait for a sale . . . normally one only needs to wait a week or two) roller cabinets which may fit your needs, but be sure you get one with the bearing slides if you've got lots of tools as any weight in the cheaper style hanging

[MBZ] 560 SEC spotted for sale in NM

2007-09-12 Thread Glenn Brown
When I was looking around for a 450SL in '91/92, I was also considering a 500SEC as this body style is one of the nicest looking designs MB came up with. Depending on what they mean by low miles and if it actually spent its life in NM, it may be worth what they're asking. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC

[MBZ] Worth much?

2007-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-TURBO-DIESEL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290158742592QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Says the trans won't shift to go over 20mph... Otherwise its in stellar shape for a New England car. Wonder if it could be

Re: [MBZ] Worth much?

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Could be just low on fluid, or a dirty valve body, cable way too tightor the tranny could be toast. Nice looking car. If you want it, bid assuming it needs a tranny at minimum, along with all the other usual ebay seller unmentioned items, present company excluded. -Robert Curt

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration

2007-09-12 Thread Marshall Booth
billr wrote: I've not been able to follow all the threads on this due to limited time and computer problems - Is Techron concentrate safe and effective for a diesel? Much easier than doing the stuff requited for Diesel Purge. Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles Chevron

[MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Donald Snook
After discovering that my 1990 300SEL had a blown head gasket, I decided to trade it in on a 2001 Ford Expedition. So, now my wife and I have a 97 Explorer and a 2001 Expedition. It is nice to drive a car that has such modern luxuries like a CD changer, keyless entry, heated seats, etc. What

Re: [MBZ] Worth much?

2007-09-12 Thread Kevin Kraly
Wonder if it could be something stupid and simple... Kickdown switch? KEvin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist

2007-09-12 Thread Marshall Booth
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:16:56 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On some cars (201s for sure) the only way the vibration damper is available is along with front half of the driveshaft. At least one member of this forum has replaced the front driveshaft to

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration

2007-09-12 Thread Kevin Kraly
This is quickly proven when the engine is reconnected to the diesel supply and much of the noise slowly returns as the Cetane index drops. This is what I experienced on my second '78 300D. It sounded very quiet and smooth while running the DP, but clattered loudly once the diesel supply

Re: [MBZ] M! for gassers

2007-09-12 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, It's time for an oil change in the '01 E320 wagon. Anyone have thoughts on which grade of M1 is the best for this vehicle. I've read more than my share of diesel oil threads but few on whats best for our gassers. I do recall Dave M. saying he thought the

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread archer
Bought a 17mm crowfoot from Matco years ago but was disappointed because it was too big to loosen the IP nuts separately on the 1967 200D and the injector lines had to be taken off one at a time. Just now looked at it closely and it's a Snap-on! Went out and checked it on the '83 300D and

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: Doesn't look bad for the price. The question is whether you want a tool cart or a roller cabinet, you should be able to find a decent Craftsman 26 roller cab at Sears for about that much. Either way, if there are stairs between the driveway and your storage place you won't

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread John Robbins
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Those things are sweet! Napa had one on display a few months back , and for a few bucks less than that if I remember , but I just looked online and they're up to $389 now That looks like the exact same cart too! :) I wonder if I can get the local NAPA to

Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart

2007-09-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
I don't know anything about that particular brand. But that type of cart is not good unless you have a level path (no steps, sills, etc) from storage to driveway. The cart gets real heavy and the wheels are small. You may be better served by several tool boxes or bags that are easy to carry and

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dealer is also my mechanic. He always has 6-7 cars for sale. Mostly Mercedes and an occasional BMW. But, he had this Expedition. It belonged to one of his customers who also had a newer S class. Well, he wanted my old wheels (the 15

Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL

2007-09-12 Thread OK Don
Is the lock knob that you fabricated the locking thingy that's behind and above the inside door release lever? If so, I have a difficult time thinking of that as a knob - it's more of a lever to me This is assuming that the 380 107 is the same as my 450 107 --- The door looks good, works

[MBZ] [Fwd: computer virus warning - real one]

2007-09-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Original Message Subject:computer virus warning - real one Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:06:01 -0500 From: JM Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Marilyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] These warning are usually Hoaxes but this on is listed as real on snopes.com. You can verity

[MBZ] 83 300SD for sale, low miles Calling Dan Weeks!

2007-09-12 Thread Loren Faeth
In the local paper, there is an 83 300SD for sale, with a claim of 48k miles. Here's the ad: Mercedes Benz 300SD, 83. 48,000 original miles, turbo diesel, 4 door sedan, automatic transmission, new tires, sunroof, runs good, $3500. 515-450-5909 or 317-370-2253. 317 is an Indiana area code.

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD for sale, low miles Calling Dan Weeks!

2007-09-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would bet it has been. Otherwise the guy would know what he has and it would be alot more. Loren Faeth wrote: In the local paper, there is an 83 300SD for sale, with a claim of 48k miles. Here's the ad: Mercedes Benz 300SD, 83. 48,000 original miles, turbo diesel, 4 door sedan,

[MBZ] Calling Dan Weeks! (Loren Faeth)

2007-09-12 Thread Dan Weeks
Thanks, Loren! I'll check it out! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Is the lock knob that you fabricated the locking thingy that's behind and above the inside door release lever? If so, I have a difficult time thinking of that as a knob - it's more of a lever to me This is assuming that the 380 107 is the same as my 450 107 --- They're identical. It's

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest (can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both It's in Portland OR, if that helps. claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing the U joint but I've heard from a few of

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
etc. What usually happens is that I get tired of a car in about 18 months. I like the fun of having a car new to me. That's why a nice big stable of MB's is so good. I rotate through them, and they're each new to me again. All the fun without all the acquisition and depreciation expenses.

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
If they're good and tight, the [HF] things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. When there's room I have clamped a big vise-grip over the outside of the wrench to hold it closed. It helps. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
No problem replacing the U-joint without re-balancing so long as you mark the shafts so that they go together the same way. You just need to mark all three pieces with paint or a scribe so that you can put them together the same way they came apart. The U-joint can only go together correct or 180

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
Buy the correct tool from Rusty you don't need to cobble together a solution. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL

[MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Gary Hurst
my mother is coming to visit, so i figure it's time to bust out old kirby and go over the carpet a bit. kirby has always been loud, but tonight he simply screams bloody murder. i smell a little burning smell. and then i see some spark and flame inside the motor housing. but as it keeps sucking

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread OK Don
Exactly! I'm alternating between cars each day - 126, 124, 107, 126, 124,107, etc., or - Diesel, Diesel, gas, Diesel, Diesel, gas, etc. My son has the 123 off site at college, so it's out of the rotation. If you drive each one for a month, it's more like a new one each time. On 9/12/07, Jim

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Frederick
The Benz driveshafts after the W108/109 chassis aren't that easy -- the u-joint is straked in place, not held by centering clips, and if you don't have the jig to strake a new one in exactly centered, it will shake like crazy. BTDT. Get a new shaft, they are cheap in comparison. Peter

Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Probably the motor bearings. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Gary Hurst
i had to replace an original fuel pump on a car recently as well. it was on my 79 280CE. modern car climate control is the bomb. fuel economy relative to power is also pretty great. beyond that, i don't know there is much to like. On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After

Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Gary Hurst
that sounds fatal. do i start looking for a new cheap one or can i fix that easily enough? can i just keep using it till it dies or will it burn my house down? On 9/12/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the motor bearings. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread OK Don
Buy the correct tool from Rusty you don't need to cobble together a solution. What fun would that be? Mine is a regular 17mm Craftsman socket with a bolt welded to one side, and a slot the width of the injection line ground into the opposite side. It's worked great over the years, but doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)

2007-09-12 Thread John Robbins
OK Don wrote: The 2 60x engines I've worked on have enough room to use standard open end wrenches. I've never had a problem doing that on my 617s... ?? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
After work, given that I need to do some other things in the mornings for awhile, I tackled the front grille. I pulled it off and found a bit of rust starting against the hood, so I brushed that off and rattle-canned it with the color paint. The plastic finned grille had a chunk off one end of a

Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:18:14 -0500, Tom wrote: Most likely brushes or possibly a bad bearing. Kirby's are great machines as long as you use them as vacuum cleaners stay away from all of the extras. And don't have to carry them up any stairs!! Uggh! Them beasts are _heavy_.

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Donald Snook
He's not much of a Mercedes mechanic if he doesn't know that 124 and 126 wheels are not interchangeable (the offsets are very different). Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I know because I have been driving on them for the last several months. The 8 hole wheels came off of a 1994

Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Gary Hurst
i have a 1400 square foot house with a 900 square foot garage below it (i'm on a steep hill). the part of the house that is above hte garage is 3 steps higher than that section that is over the crawl space, so not much here in terms of upstairs On 9/12/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It

Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Rentfro
Maybe old Kirby was shocked that is was taken out and put into use. My Kirby, that I bought in '80 when I got married (it's almost a rite of passage in Illinois to but a Kirby after getting' hitched), is still going strongbut I must say the Dyson I bought 5 years ago sucks circles around

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread OK Don
Bolting on and being right are two different things! On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's not much of a Mercedes mechanic if he doesn't know that 124 and 126 wheels are not interchangeable (the offsets are very different). Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I

Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I know because I bought a set of 201 wheels once to put on a 107. The center star popped right out when I put the first wheel on, the hub poked right through. That was embarrassing, costly, and time-wasting. How better to learn? -- Jim