[MBZ] 190D 2.5T Spotted
On my way home from work last night I took a round about route so I could stop at the tractor parts place. On the highway I passed a 190D 2.5 Turbo. The guy driving gave an enigmatic smile as I passed. He was pulling off at that exit otherwise I'd have slowed down and oogled his apparently spotless car. -Curt - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tips on replacing starter (needed from Loren F.)
Loren Faeth wrote: But the factory manual says to go over the trans. Loren - was this in a benz manual, and if so, was it a chassis, engine, maintenance, etc. manual, and for what model and what was the job # ? Also, thanks for all the replies. It sounds like the MB engineers should have kept the super secret trap door for starter bolt access in the passenger compartment ala the 108, though I believe I still had to use a U-joint with a wobble extension and six foot breaker bar. AND while I'm at it I have a Rusty Cullens parts delivery complaint. Wife had been buggin' me this week to order starter so I could get it done this weekend - I had other ideas, so I waited until Thursday to order via UPS ground thinking Monday delivery. Nooo, the part showed up the very next morning. I guess I'm gonna have to do it this weekend. Thanks a lot Rusty ;) Steve ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine tranny swap out
yea, its possible. You will have to swap the motor mount arms, maybe the oil pan, the trans will have to be swapped too, linkage is different. denis wier wrote: Is it possible to take a engine and transmission out of my wrecked 83 300 TDT and put it into a 79 300sd without to much trouble ? - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine tranny swap out
There is more than that, but my memory is getting a bit fuzzy... oil lines to filter housing, maybe the oil filter housing, I believe some issues with the plumbing of the vacuum pump. Best to have both cars side by each and very carefully look at everything. You don't have to swap the trans, but you will have to adapt the newer engine to use the linkages from the older engine (your TDT uses a cable to control shift points, the older car uses a linkage rod). Expect 2x hours for routine swap. If you are doing it yourself, take your time and check everything before your lower the engine in. If a shop is doing it, make sure it's one where the wrench uses his head not his hands to think (voice of experience here). Mac -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s on 10/6/07 11:20, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, its possible. You will have to swap the motor mount arms, maybe the oil pan, the trans will have to be swapped too, linkage is different. denis wier wrote: Is it possible to take a engine and transmission out of my wrecked 83 300 TDT and put it into a 79 300sd without to much trouble ? - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tips on replacing starter (needed)
Tools break, Sears replaces... I'd rather take a broken tool back than not be able to get the job done. Besides, it was still just me providing the torque. Not like I was using a jack to push the pipe or anything (though I had considered that if necessary). Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 10/5/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great way to break tools, as I have learned the hard way. But sometimes a man's gotta do, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ban cellphones while driving
I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving
even scarier is the new crop of drivers that texts while driving. Not only are they inexperienced at driving, but now they're texting. On 10/6/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cell phones while driving
Enforcement is certainly as large an issue as what the laws are. Cell phone use is down the list of the reported cause of accidents, though. I don't recall the order, but changing the radio station, kids in the car and eating while driving seemed to rand up there.. BillR - who pulls off the road to talk on the phone. Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cell phones while driving
Enforcement is certainly as large an issue as what the laws are. Cell phone use is down the list of the reported cause of accidents, though. I don't recall the order, but changing the radio station, kids in the car and eating while driving seemed to rand up there.. BillR - who pulls off the road to talk on the phone. Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cell phones while driving
The real issue is not cell phones, eating, texting, etc. The real issue is distracted drivers. Regulate cell phones youv'e gotten no-where. Make distracted driving a ticketable offense and then mayby you've gotten somewhere. And by the way, talking on the cell phone is no more a distraction than talking to someone in the car, which we all do all the time. The distraction comes when answering or placing a call. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Bill Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/06/07 01:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ban cell phones while driving -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Enforcement is certainly as large an issue as what the laws are. Cell phone use is down the list of the reported cause of accidents, though. I don't recall the order, but changing the radio station, kids in the car and eating while driving seemed to rand up there.. BillR - who pulls off the road to talk on the phone. Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving
You;re right about it not being enforced even if passed. The larger problem is all the other things drivers do while driving that are never discussed. turning around and yelling at kids, eating, reading, chatting with others, changing clothes (yeah, I know, but it happens), and the zillions of other things prople do when driving that they shouldn;t do. Actually, it's only been in the last 3-5 years that German cars have added cup holders (very sure about Porsche, pretty sure about MB) because Germans figure driving is a full time job and drivers should not be distracted by other things. Not an altogether unreasonable idea. Of course when you have the possibility of running across a unlimited speed limit zone on a Autobahn, it;s best to concentrate/ The US takes the opposite approach - putting every conceivable past-time distraction possible. Supposedly not viewable by the drivers, there are DVD players in almost every new SUV and MiniVan, and there are some in the front seat area.. While an enforcable law will never pass - only a national effort to make this behaviour socially unacceptable - like drinking driving and smoking has become. In the mean time, there's no telling how many people die because they or someone else wasn't paying attention. I think part of theproblem is the lack of emphasis the police put on reckless behavious - which is my definition, don't know if it would stand up in court. The police are always going after speeders even if they are not being unsafe. IMO, a MB in good condition doing 80-100 on a interstate with a limit of 65 is not being unsafe - assuming the driver has both hands on the wheel and both eyes on the road. But put a driver reading the newspaper driving the speedlimit next to the MB above and the MB will get a ticket or arrested and the reader will get a pass. Ok, rant off - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] ban cellphones while driving I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.2/1053 - Release Date: 10/6/2007 10:18 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Re: ban cellphones while driving
not sure what this has to do with MBZs,... FWIW, studies have shown that even conversing with a passenger reduces the amount of mental bandwidth available to use to focus on driving, and that the likelihood of a beginning driver to get in an accident increases exponentially with the number of passengers in the vehicle. some studies place Dashboard Dining as the highest cause of non-alcohol related operator error-induced accidents, with phone use still being a good deal lower on the list. (the new influx of 'texters' doesn't seem to be showing up in the ranking yet; perhaps because that's something that's still just a one-way method of communication at no particular speed, and/or doesn't have the same potential for external distraction by a party on the other end, similar to the one-way-at-a-time operation of a 2-way radio.) side note: i find it interesting that in Amateur (Ham) Radio culture, it's perfectly acceptable to say hang on; gotta' drive! and toss away the microphone until it's safer to pick it up again, but that that practice doesn't seem to extend (at least yet) to Cell Phone use... sadly, the portion of the general populace that isn't bright enough to be able to do 2 things at once probably also isn't bright enough to realize it. still, that's less reason for choosing to not own a cell phone because some people can't use them responsibly than not owning a car because other people can't drive. focus needs to be on driving skills and the responsibility involved with operating a motor vehicle, not on limiting everyone because some aren't competent/responsible. cheers! e Glenn Brown wrote: I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] back to GPS
Having used my IPAQ travel companion's tomtom unit a few times now I find I like it very much and it has a lot more features than I realized. Nothing wrong with the older Garmin ColorMap unit, but I like the turn by turn voice directions quit a bit, and the battery drain is considerably less on the IPAQ. In the time it would have taken my Garmin to drain 4 AA's [when I was not plugged into the car] the tomtom unit only used @ 15 % of it's rechargeable battery. That helps a lot when downloading maps and such. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: ban cellphones while driving
Hi, The only solution is a drivers compartment. No distractions! Like a 1930 RR. Open to the weather! Why is it semi-truck drivers after 30 years on the road can have aaccident free record? Kids with parents riding in the car seldom hit anything. 2 cents worth! Ed in Chicago ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure what this has to do with MBZs,... FWIW, studies have shown that even conversing with a passenger reduces the amount of mental bandwidth available to use to focus on driving, and that the likelihood of a beginning driver to get in an accident increases exponentially with the number of passengers in the vehicle. some studies place Dashboard Dining as the highest cause of non-alcohol related operator error-induced accidents, with phone use still being a good deal lower on the list. (the new influx of 'texters' doesn't seem to be showing up in the ranking yet; perhaps because that's something that's still just a one-way method of communication at no particular speed, and/or doesn't have the same potential for external distraction by a party on the other end, similar to the one-way-at-a-time operation of a 2-way radio.) side note: i find it interesting that in Amateur (Ham) Radio culture, it's perfectly acceptable to say hang on; gotta' drive! and toss away the microphone until it's safer to pick it up again, but that that practice doesn't seem to extend (at least yet) to Cell Phone use... sadly, the portion of the general populace that isn't bright enough to be able to do 2 things at once probably also isn't bright enough to realize it. still, that's less reason for choosing to not own a cell phone because some people can't use them responsibly than not owning a car because other people can't drive. focus needs to be on driving skills and the responsibility involved with operating a motor vehicle, not on limiting everyone because some aren't competent/responsible. cheers! e Glenn Brown wrote: I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: ban cellphones while driving
EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Hi, The only solution is a drivers compartment. No distractions! Like a 1930 RR. Open to the weather! Why is it semi-truck drivers after 30 years on the road can have aaccident free record? Kids with parents riding in the car seldom hit anything. 2 cents worth! Ed in Chicago ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure what this has to do with MBZs,... FWIW, studies have shown that even conversing with a passenger reduces the amount of mental bandwidth available to use to focus on driving, and that the likelihood of a beginning driver to get in an accident increases exponentially with the number of passengers in the vehicle. some studies place Dashboard Dining as the highest cause of non-alcohol related operator error-induced accidents, with phone use still being a good deal lower on the list. (the new influx of 'texters' doesn't seem to be showing up in the ranking yet; perhaps because that's something that's still just a one-way method of communication at no particular speed, and/or doesn't have the same potential for external distraction by a party on the other end, similar to the one-way-at-a-time operation of a 2-way radio.) side note: i find it interesting that in Amateur (Ham) Radio culture, it's perfectly acceptable to say hang on; gotta' drive! and toss away the microphone until it's safer to pick it up again, but that that practice doesn't seem to extend (at least yet) to Cell Phone use... sadly, the portion of the general populace that isn't bright enough to be able to do 2 things at once probably also isn't bright enough to realize it. still, that's less reason for choosing to not own a cell phone because some people can't use them responsibly than not owning a car because other people can't drive. focus needs to be on driving skills and the responsibility involved with operating a motor vehicle, not on limiting everyone because some aren't competent/responsible. cheers! e Glenn Brown wrote: I'm sure this will start a torrential thread of varying opinions but I'm all in favor of banning cellphone use while driving. There have been studies done and even the hands free types cause a loss of concentration on what one should be doing while behind the wheel of an automobile. I don't think it'll ever occur nation wide and actually be enforced, as there are too many legialators who use the darn things and, previously living in NY where it was against the law, I know from experience that this law in NY is not enforced. I've been stopped at red lights where a police cruiser was also at the light and there were cars whizzin' by with the drivers on cell phones. Like Peter Egan (RT), I will not own one. G. M. Brown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need 107 oil filter
I need the oil filter canister deal on a 81 380SLC. EPC says its the same on the 114, 116, 117 motors. This is the style that mounts from the bottom up on the 107's. Mine is missing. Need it quick. Anybody got one laying around? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
So, anybody electronical out there care to critique the recreated original regulator schematic? It's mostly complete, though some of the component values are possibly off. My best guess for D9 is that it was a Zener diode, but if somebody else though differently based on the circuit that would be nice to hear about. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset3/regulator.pdf -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need 107 oil filter
Hi, There are 2 617 126 models at U-Pull-it 14100 S. Leavit in Blue Island Illinois. I am going there Tuesday and will verify if they are with filters. Ed in Chicago Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need the oil filter canister deal on a 81 380SLC. EPC says its the same on the 114, 116, 117 motors. This is the style that mounts from the bottom up on the 107's. Mine is missing. Need it quick. Anybody got one laying around? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need 107 oil filter
Well I discovered that the W116 450SEL uses the same filter, so I pulled the bowl but now I need to pull the adaptor thing. The biggest socket I have is a 30mm and that is not big enough. Anybody know what size it takes? Im guessing 32mm Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need the oil filter canister deal on a 81 380SLC. EPC says its the same on the 114, 116, 117 motors. This is the style that mounts from the bottom up on the 107's. Mine is missing. Need it quick. Anybody got one laying around? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need 107 oil filter
Thanks but as the post says I am looking for the V-8 filter used in the SL and others. The 617 diesel wont work. EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Hi, There are 2 617 126 models at U-Pull-it 14100 S. Leavit in Blue Island Illinois. I am going there Tuesday and will verify if they are with filters. Ed in Chicago Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need the oil filter canister deal on a 81 380SLC. EPC says its the same on the 114, 116, 117 motors. This is the style that mounts from the bottom up on the 107's. Mine is missing. Need it quick. Anybody got one laying around? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:41:59 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, anybody electronical out there care to critique the recreated original regulator schematic? It's mostly complete, though some of the component values are possibly off. My best guess for D9 is that it was a Zener diode, but if somebody else though differently based on the circuit that would be nice to hear about. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset3/regulator.pdf It seems close to the right idea overall, but has a number of quirks: It's strange that they take all the trouble to make sure Q6 gets turned off well (with Q5 AND D11), but have not provided anything to turn Q1 and Q2 off. D10 is in a wierd location, too, since there's no way for current to flow that way. The current in the red-green winding will always flow from red to green (unless there's induction from somewhere else), so Q6 is the wrong polarity to dump its current. Q6 will only add to the current flowing through D11. If Q3 is turned on, Q4 (and thus Q1 and Q2) will be off and Q5 will be off. R11 will reverse bias D11 and turn Q6 on, but if current has been flowing in red-green, now having nowhere to go, it will flip the polarity on red-green so that green is positive and red is negative. This will forward bias the body diode of Q6, which will clamp the green wire at 0.7V above the potential of C2. But why a transistor for Q6? Strange. D12 is the correct polarity to protect Q5 from polarity reversals of the red-green winding, and D13 will clamp the base of Q6 close to the positive rail, with the current first flowing through D11 in those instances, but why go to all that bother? Also, C4 and R6 provide POSITIVE feedback for Q3, Q4, Q1, and Q2, not negative. Is this thing supposed to oscillate and D9, et al., provide pulse-width oscillation? On the other hand, if the red-green winding has current induced in it, so that it's a current source rather than a current sink, and has current flowing from green to red, then the polarity of D10 and Q6 make sense. But here it would be powering the circuit instead of the blue winding, the upper bridge, and C2. And when Q6 turns on, it would be shorting the output of the red-green winding (which appears to be not a good thing). Also, if D10 is conducting, D11 will be reverse biased and turning Q1 and Q2 on only pulls down on the base of Q6, and they don't need two darlingtons to do that. Strange. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Help with Shop Manual CD
I have had an official Model 124 Service Manual Library on CD for about 8 years. It's recently become almost impossible to use with my current XP computer with latest updates. Among other problems, the version of Netscape it wants to use and the current version of Adobe won't talk to each other. I now have to resort to searching though all the files with windows explorer until I trip upon what I am looking for. Anyway, a few years ago, someone on one of these lists gave me a macro type program that would index, list and open exaclty the file I was looking for without going through all those lame graphics the CD tries to use. That program was on a hard disk that failed, some time ago, and I sure miss it. Does anyone know what I am talking about? Can anyone share such a program with me? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ban cell phones while driving
Tom Hargrave wrote: And by the way, talking on the cell phone is no more a distraction than talking to someone in the car, which we all do all the time. The distraction comes when answering or placing a call. And to head off the its more distracting than someone in the car because the person in the car is aware of whats going on crowd. You can always ignore the person you're talking to. FWIW, Most of my passengers haven't always noticed whats going on, and I often ask them to repeat themselves, or if I'm the one talking have to start over because of something that demands my attention. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help with Shop Manual CD
ned kleinhenz wrote: Anyway, a few years ago, someone on one of these lists gave me a macro type program that would index, list and open exaclty the file I was looking for without going through all those lame graphics the CD tries to use. That program was on a hard disk that failed, some time ago, and I sure miss it. Does anyone know what I am talking about? Can anyone share such a program with me? Ned, That was probably Steve Nervig's index. http://web.mac.com/dakota/Mercedes/Mercedes_Pages.html Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
It's strange that they take all the trouble to make sure Q6 gets turned off well (with Q5 AND D11), but have not provided anything to turn Q1 and Q2 off. D11 may be for turn-off, but it's also the main current path for the field. Orienting it in the schematic was one of the difficult parts. I had it like D12 before, and just couldn't see the main current flow. D10 is in a wierd location, too, since there's no way for current to flow that way. Not normally, I think of it as a GP protection device. Generators are probably a rather harsh environment! The current in the red-green winding will always flow from red to green (unless there's induction from somewhere else), so Q6 is the wrong polarity to dump its current. Q6 will only add to the current flowing through D11. Yes. I think one of the major features is that it _intends_ to burn the excess available power from the main excitation winding. I have no proof yet, but I think there are two excitation windings because one of them is a third-harmonic winding that generates more as the machine is overloaded. If Q3 is turned on, Q4 (and thus Q1 and Q2) will be off and Q5 will be off. R11 will reverse bias D11 and turn Q6 on, but if current has been flowing in red-green, now having nowhere to go, it will flip the polarity on red-green so that green is positive and red is negative. This will forward bias the body diode of Q6, which will clamp the green wire at 0.7V above the potential of C2. But why a transistor for Q6? Strange. R9 is the biggest resistor there, it's obviously intended to burn lots of power. It's apparent to me that Q6's job is to put R9 (at 10 ohms) in parallel with the 15-ohm field under whatever conditions it thinks appropriate to cut the field current. D12 is the correct polarity to protect Q5 from polarity reversals of the red-green winding, and D13 will clamp the base of Q6 close to the positive rail, with the current first flowing through D11 in those instances, but why go to all that bother? It's a rather large winding, if there are load dumps that cause the regulator to want to cut off the field current the spike could be hellacious. Henries of inductance? Also, C4 and R6 provide POSITIVE feedback for Q3, Q4, Q1, and Q2, not negative. Is this thing supposed to oscillate and D9, et al., provide pulse-width oscillation? That _is_ weird. It certainly could be PWM regulation. There's enough filter inductance in the field to smooth it out. C3 provides negative feedback, could it be enough to cancel out the positive? I believe C3 and C4 are the same value. They were badly damaged, but they're both the same size, and they're those green-dipped film jobs. Thin chiclets. On the other hand, if the red-green winding has current induced in it, so that it's a current source rather than a current sink, and has current flowing from green to red, then the polarity of D10 and Q6 make sense. Such induction would be transient, at best. Under normal conditions the field (R/G) winding is fed some 60+ volts. If you don't feed it plenty you don't get enough output voltage on the main windings. But here it would be powering the circuit instead of the blue winding, the upper bridge, and C2. And when Q6 turns on, it would be shorting the output of the red-green winding (which appears to be not a good thing). Also, if D10 is conducting, D11 will be reverse biased and turning Q1 and Q2 on only pulls down on the base of Q6, and they don't need two darlingtons to do that. Strange. Indeed! I am wondering if this thing is worthy of resurrection, and if so, what improvements to make to it. I already intend to put the MOV in the middle of the 2K R2 (using 2 1k resistors) so that if it fails again it won't burn out the diode bridge, again. I intend to fuse all three windings, and I intend to put small (0.1 ohm?) emitter resistors on Q1 and Q2. So was my schematic layout all that it should be? I'm open to rearranging it if it'll help aid in understanding it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help with Shop Manual CD
Ned - unless you want to use his index, I believe the easiest way by far is to copy all the files from the CD(s) to your hard drive and then find the file named matrix?.htm .The question mark seem to change with the chassis. For my 107 it is matrix6.htm and for the 126 it is just matrix.htm. Running from that link skips all the cutsie intro stuff and starts you right at the main menu. I made a shortcut to that file on my desktop so it opens right from the desktop. Barry Anyway, a few years ago, someone on one of these lists gave me a macro type program that would index, list and open exactly the file I was looking for without going through all those lame graphics the CD tries to use. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need 107 oil filter
Hi, Ck with Ben 708-945-3687 in Orland pk. Has a large circle of MB parts. He deals in many Mb cars and is selling a clean 91 420 sel 127k a former Park Ridge IL car. Ed in Chicago Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks but as the post says I am looking for the V-8 filter used in the SL and others. The 617 diesel wont work. EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Hi, There are 2 617 126 models at U-Pull-it 14100 S. Leavit in Blue Island Illinois. I am going there Tuesday and will verify if they are with filters. Ed in Chicago Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need the oil filter canister deal on a 81 380SLC. EPC says its the same on the 114, 116, 117 motors. This is the style that mounts from the bottom up on the 107's. Mine is missing. Need it quick. Anybody got one laying around? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:39:42 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange. Indeed! I am wondering if this thing is worthy of resurrection, and if so, what improvements to make to it. I already intend to put the MOV in the middle of the 2K R2 (using 2 1k resistors) so that if it fails again it won't burn out the diode bridge, again. I intend to fuse all three windings, and I intend to put small (0.1 ohm?) emitter resistors on Q1 and Q2. These sound like good things to do. So was my schematic layout all that it should be? I'm open to rearranging it if it'll help aid in understanding it. That's exactly how I would have drawn it myself. It's very straightforward (the drawing, not the circuit, as we've already discussed) and easy to understand. Good job. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Console question
Thanks, I'll give that a try. Start with the ashtray assembly and work your way back. Look carefully and you can see each piece of the puzzle unfold. At 04:32 AM 10/5/2007, you wrote: A quick question for the experts; On an '85 300D how does the center console where the switches are located come up? I can't figure out what is holding it down. I really need to buy a Bentley manual for this vehicle. Thanks for your help. -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Console question
Thanks, sounds pretty simple, but I'm sure I will find a way to make it difficult. You have to remove the ash tray, then remove the 2 screws, then slide it toward the back and lift up. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick question for the experts; On an '85 300D how does the center console where the switches are located come up? I can't figure out what is holding it down. I really need to buy a Bentley manual for this vehicle. Thanks for your help. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Engine Swap?
Hi All, The sweet-running 75 240D is history, having met its match with a Jersey barrier in a rainstorm on I-5 in downtown Seattle. No injuries to the young driver thank goodness, but the front quarter and suspension are badly banged up beyond repair. The motor still runs like the proverbial sewing machine and the tranny is decent. So here is the question: Can I drop the 240D engine into the 72 220D (FNULNU) that has been patiently waiting in the garage for a new motor? Will it match with the 220 tranny? BTW, in my estimation, the late model W115 240D indeed deserves the title Queen of Diesels, approaching perfection in the beauty and simple elegance of its design, construction, and driving qualities. Our late, lamented 75 W115 whisked us around like magic. The 123s, 126s, 116s, and others drive like battleships in comparison. As nimble, smooth, and quiet (yes, a well-maintained W115 diesel can be VERY quiet) as it was after 30 years and hundreds of thousands of hard miles, I can only imagine what it drove like when it left the showroom. Cheers, Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' headed for Ebay...snif... 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap?
Glad to hear that the young driver is OK, and that the car did it's job of protecting the occupants. Don't know if the engine will just drop in, but my guess is that it will. I agree that the 115 is a great driving car. However, all of mine rusted to the point of not being safe to drive. Plus I hated replacing the blower motor - did it twice, and that was enough for me. Oh - and the A/C compressor mounted above the alternator drove me batty (er). I'm glad that the 107 chassis is based on the 115 - drives even better. On 10/6/07, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The sweet-running 75 240D is history, having met its match with a Jersey barrier in a rainstorm on I-5 in downtown Seattle. No injuries to the young driver thank goodness, but the front quarter and suspension are badly banged up beyond repair. The motor still runs like the proverbial sewing machine and the tranny is decent. So here is the question: Can I drop the 240D engine into the 72 220D (FNULNU) that has been patiently waiting in the garage for a new motor? Will it match with the 220 tranny? BTW, in my estimation, the late model W115 240D indeed deserves the title Queen of Diesels, approaching perfection in the beauty and simple elegance of its design, construction, and driving qualities. Our late, lamented 75 W115 whisked us around like magic. The 123s, 126s, 116s, and others drive like battleships in comparison. As nimble, smooth, and quiet (yes, a well-maintained W115 diesel can be VERY quiet) as it was after 30 years and hundreds of thousands of hard miles, I can only imagine what it drove like when it left the showroom. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Can someone do a Carfax please...
The car is in the DMV computer as: 280SEL002940 although the real VIN is 10806812002940 Thanks, D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap?
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:50:06 -0700 (PDT) B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The sweet-running 75 240D is history, having met its match with a Jersey barrier in a rainstorm on I-5 in downtown Seattle. No injuries to the young driver thank goodness, Sorry about the bang-up; glad the driver was protected. So here is the question: Can I drop the 240D engine into the 72 220D (FNULNU) that has been patiently waiting in the garage for a new motor? Will it match with the 220 tranny? It will match with the 220 tranny (you may have to swap the plate that mounts to the back of the block and then to the transmission, but that's just four bolts). Since it's 115 -- 115, there should be no problem. You can have both cars side-by-side and see what needs to be done. The 220D will have a pull-type glow and start. Not sure what the 240D has. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com