Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator

[Luther]

If it provides a seal to the shaft, couldn't a person seal it to the shaft and 
provide more service?  Use some adhesive or silicone. Jim??

Luther

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:21 -0600, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator
>> that leak, but the "cover" that seals the actuating shaft to the
>> plastic
>> body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open
>> the
>> doors.
>
> I have also noticed that the oblong ones, as used in
> single-line systems, often fail at that exposed boot
> and not inside.  But the older round ones are prone
> to the internal diaphragms failing.
>
> -- Jim
>
>



-- 
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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[ernest breakfield]

i dunno' nuttin' 'bout Mike Vick, but you're probably right that our own 
dawgs aint' likely to be bitin' on us (most of the time). it aint' them 
bitin' us you gots to worry 'bouts... unless of course, you can afford 
to loose everything you have because Bowser took a chunk out of some 
dipsh*t kid that behaved stupidly (or worse) around it; then you're out 
no matter whether the kid was in the wrong or not.
sucky as it may be, welcome to our litigious world. it won't cost 
you more than a phone call to talk to your insurance company; it could 
cost you *everything* not to. best case, you might find out that your 
insurance company is exceptional and you have nothing to worry about, 
but wouldn't you rather know that beforehand, than wonder about it after 
some brat sticks his hand down Bowsers throat and his daddy's lawyer's 
on the phone?


cheers!
e


Gary Hurst wrote:
> what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in?  these 
> dogs don't go around biting people.  for the most part they are just 
> like little children.  they like you and seek your approval.  unless a 
> dog is badly provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite 
> you. 
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our
> Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from
> what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful
> critter to
> have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere
> else we go).
>however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue
> that
> reminded me of something; you might want to check with your
> homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect
> your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are
> classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems
> to be
> growing longer all the time.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote  the breed is
> > one of the most likely to bite "though". Unless I'm missing
> something.
> >
> [snip]
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Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz

[E M]

Ok, so many on the list here are taking great care of the earth with their
diesels, so I may have to buy a few carbon points off them to run my list.
:-)

W140 600 CL AMG optioned.
W126 560 SEL
W124 320 TE
W124 500 E
W123 300 TDT
W??? 450 SEL 6.9
W100 600 SWB
G55
SLR
Unimog

Well, there you go. Those are the ones I'd like in my garage. :-)

Ed
300E


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> > Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list?  :-)
>
> Of course!  Beats another oil thread...
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change

[Jim Cathey]

> I use the Jim Cathey method - even before I knew what to call it.

Hey, don't blame me!  I got it _here_.  (Or maybe one of the
other lists, but you get the point.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

[Jim Cathey]

> Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list?  :-)

Of course!  Beats another oil thread...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

[E M]

My vote goes for a 5.0L V8 W140.  560 SEL would be a close second, third, a
W124 wagon with a 3.2L inline 6.  Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list?
:-)

Ed
300E

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>
> My vote is for the 126 in big cars, and the 124 in the
> mid-range.  Never owned a 201, so I can't comment on them.  My vote
> for the best car in the world, ever, is the 300SDL.  If my memory is
> correct, the 126 was the last of the hand-touched bodies, as opposed
> to the robotic, untouched bodies.
>
> 140s seem to have no soul.
>
> At 10:37 AM 11/10/2007, you wrote:
> >This is based on price/quality accordance overall, suitability for DIY,
> and
> >parts prices.
> >
> >I vote w124.
> >
> >Flames off list pls.
> >
> >Mac
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Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[E M]

many feel they kind of missed the mark with the quality when they got into
the 996, Box era, and I'm one of them.  Saved the company, brought in a lot
of new customers, and money, so it all went according to plan.  I know I
wouldn't want one of those cars. One models I like now are the Carrera GT
and the GT3.  No interest in owning a CGT, like that would happen anyway,
but glad they built it, if for no other reason than the remind ppl, you can
still build an exotic super car with a stick shift, and not those stupid
paddle flipper things.

I was a loyal customers when the company was going bust, so not sure my
input really counts for much to them. :-)

300E
911SC, and maybe another one on the way. :-)

On 14/11/2007, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Some people equate cheaper wiith lower quality but "faster and cheaper"
> is not a bad thing as long as quality is not compromised.
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 11/13/07 09:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> they just sent some guys to Japan to show them how to make them faster
> and
> cheaper. :-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 13/11/2007, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, Porsche was a struggling (and almost dead) company not too
> > many years ago. It's refreshing to see Capitalism at work.
> >
> > Tom
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> > Original Message
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> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing.
> h.c.
> > F.
> > Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche
> > Group in
> > the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857
> > billion,
> > up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110
> > billion.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[Tom Hargrave]

Some people equate cheaper wiith lower quality but "faster and cheaper"
is not a bad thing as long as quality is not compromised.

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
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Sent: 11/13/07 09:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
they just sent some guys to Japan to show them how to make them faster
and
cheaper. :-)

Ed
300E

On 13/11/2007, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually, Porsche was a struggling (and almost dead) company not too
> many years ago. It's refreshing to see Capitalism at work.
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11/13/07 02:26 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing.
h.c.
> F.
> Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche
> Group in
> the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857
> billion,
> up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110
> billion.
>
> RLE
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[andrew strasfogel]

Thanks, Bob.  This list is amazing - no reasonable question ever goes
unanswered.

On 11/13/07, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Spare ribs are the traditional slab of ribs. They come from the belly of the
> pig, behind the shoulder. They include 11 to 13 long bones. There is a
> covering of meat on top of the bones and between them. They are the most
> inexpensive cut of ribs. St. Louis style ribs are a variation of the full
> slab. They are trimmed and have the brisket bone removed. Kansas City style
> ribs are another variation. They are trimmed even more than the St. Louis
> style ribs and have the hard bone removed.
>
> Bob R.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:34 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
>
> i have no idea what differentiates a st louis rib from a kansas city rib.
> the ribs i had were large, meaty with a nicely spicy wet sauce.
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 4:31 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > WTF are St. Louis ribs?  Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch?
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be
> > > > > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city
> > > >
> > > > Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens
> > > > with automatic conveyorized ones.  Easier (and safer) for the staff,
> > > > but makes a totally generic pizza.
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 MERCEDES S 380 GREY MARKET CAR - $2500 (BRENTWOOD)

[Rich Thomas]

Well, it is an 87...

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> and what's up
> with calling something "Grey Market"that's so 80's
>
> Bob R.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[andrew strasfogel]

I would have thought that too, but the news article said growth was
closer to1 percent

On 11/13/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, everybody guess how much higher China's and India's oil
> > demand is this year compared to last?
>
> I would assume it's somewhere near China's claimed 10% GDP growth.
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[andrew strasfogel]

They sell the fluid at Sam's Club in the 24 gallon jeroboam for
$967.95, which works out to just $7.50 per deciliter (standard fill-up
amount).  If you have 3 Benzes this should last the life of your fleet
with plenty left over for your heirs' fleets and their heirs' fleets
and so on...

On 11/13/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, correct, it is a non-blinking blinker light.  It just stays on (or
> off, depending on failure mode) when the blinker fluid runs low and no
> longer provides proper lubrication, the blinker seizes up.  I have found
> that German synthetic provides much better service, but it is hard to find.
>
> --R
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > The 91s have a warning light for low blinker fluid.
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2007 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, not a whole lot of difference, the only thing the 91 had that the
> >> 89-90 (last 126 revision) did not was integrated cd changer, and traction
> >> control available.  Dont think the 90 has the option for traction control,
> >> and I know it did have the cd changer option.
> >>
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> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "M.Affzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:31 PM
> >> Subject: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Is there quite a difference between the 90 and the very rare 91 model
> >>> mak
> >>>
>  Those are VERY nice.  I have been on the lookout to find one, just dont
>  see
>  the 91's that often.
> 
> 
> > 1991 560SEL without a doubt.>>
> > Rusty Cullens
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[MBZ] 87 Benz on Craigslist

[Frederick W Moir]

Hi, All.
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/477037387.html
Sorry, that was me.
No Affilliation etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
85 300TD
87 190DT Bent


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Re: [MBZ] What was the last real Mercedes?

[Loren Faeth]

My vote is for the 126 in big cars, and the 124 in the 
mid-range.  Never owned a 201, so I can't comment on them.  My vote 
for the best car in the world, ever, is the 300SDL.  If my memory is 
correct, the 126 was the last of the hand-touched bodies, as opposed 
to the robotic, untouched bodies.

140s seem to have no soul.

At 10:37 AM 11/10/2007, you wrote:
>This is based on price/quality accordance overall, suitability for DIY, and
>parts prices.
>
>I vote w124.
>
>Flames off list pls.
>
>Mac
>
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[Robert Rentfro]

Spare ribs are the traditional slab of ribs. They come from the belly of the
pig, behind the shoulder. They include 11 to 13 long bones. There is a
covering of meat on top of the bones and between them. They are the most
inexpensive cut of ribs. St. Louis style ribs are a variation of the full
slab. They are trimmed and have the brisket bone removed. Kansas City style
ribs are another variation. They are trimmed even more than the St. Louis
style ribs and have the hard bone removed. 

Bob R.


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i have no idea what differentiates a st louis rib from a kansas city rib.
the ribs i had were large, meaty with a nicely spicy wet sauce.

On Nov 13, 2007 4:31 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WTF are St. Louis ribs?  Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch?
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be
> > > > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city
> > >
> > > Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens
> > > with automatic conveyorized ones.  Easier (and safer) for the staff,
> > > but makes a totally generic pizza.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change

[OK Don]

I use the Jim Cathey method - even before I knew what to call it.

On Nov 13, 2007 9:23 PM, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb.
> Fred Moir
>

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Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[E M]

they just sent some guys to Japan to show them how to make them faster and
cheaper. :-)

Ed
300E

On 13/11/2007, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually, Porsche was a struggling (and almost dead) company not too
> many years ago. It's refreshing to see Capitalism at work.
>
> Tom
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> Original Message
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> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing. h.c.
> F.
> Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche
> Group in
> the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857
> billion,
> up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110
> billion.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change

[Frederick W Moir]

Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb.
Fred Moir

>Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently.  His allen
>wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the
>socket properly.  So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the
>only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench.
>
>Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really
>like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle -
>
>Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work?   Maybe a 14mm stub of
>allen into a socket with a universal?
>
>Thx -
>Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 MERCEDES S 380 GREY MARKET CAR - $2500 (BRENTWOOD)

[Robert Rentfro]

Is this some random dude trying to sell stuff on our little list?
 I get some crazy 404 messages when I try to look at this.and what's up
with calling something "Grey Market"that's so 80's

Bob R.

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Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff

[Robert Rentfro]

It's about the same either way.

However...this is the time of the year we brag about84 degrees and
sunny.

Bob R

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff

I do not envy pizza oven attendants in Phoenix.Major conundrum: do you
step inside the oven or outside to cool off?

On Nov 12, 2007 10:02 AM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember some stinkin' pizza outfit having a type of oven that was kind
of
> like a multi leveled carrousel...like one of those pie display case
thingys
> spinning around at boo-fays. These ovens had thin stone cooking surfaces
and
> made better pizza than the conveyers, but not nearly good pizza as the
> Baker's Pride ovens.  I think it was Peter Piper out here in AZ.
>
> Bob R.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:48 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
>
> Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night,
> > you could find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you
> > would not be making pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart
> > conveyors when I first saw them 20 years ago, but they don't waste
> > gas all night. With the "pan" pizza, there isn't much difference in
> > taste between the firebrick and the conveyor.
>
> The Lang ovens we had were electric, and had timers so they would kick
> on and start heating at about 1:30.  They only took a couple of hours
> to pre heat, so by 4:00 they were ready to go (unless there had been a
> power failure overnight and the timers were off).  We had 6 ovens in
> our store, normally used only two or three.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump

[OK Don]

I prefer a 1" wide (25mm) putty knife to tap in around the edges of
things like water pumps. I feel (don't have any real evidence) they
it's less likely to do damage to the mating surfaces.

On Nov 13, 2007 5:46 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you use this method make sure you have the edge of the screwdriver on
> the pump and not the engine block.  Damage the pump and it doesn't matter -
> damage the block and you have  problems.   The mating surface must be flat
> so it meets the water pump and seals with the gasket.

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Rory]

Thank You!

On 11/13/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in?  these dogs
> don't go around biting people.  for the most part they are just like
> little
> children.  they like you and seek your approval.  unless a dog is badly
> provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite you.
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our
> > Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from
> > what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to
> > have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we
> > go).
> >however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that
> > reminded me of something; you might want to check with your
> > homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect
> > your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are
> > classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be
> > growing longer all the time.
> >
> >
> > cheers!
> > e
> >
> >
> > Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > > Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote  the breed is
> > > one of the most likely to bite "though". Unless I'm missing something.
> > >
> > [snip]
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change

[Jim Cathey]

> Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work?
> Maybe a 14mm stub of allen into a socket with a universal?

I put Allen stubs into a six-point box-end wrench for tough cases.
In a pinch, a heavy cold chisel and BFH can also work for the
fill plugs.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator

[Jim Cathey]

> In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator
> that leak, but the "cover" that seals the actuating shaft to the 
> plastic
> body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open 
> the
> doors.

I have also noticed that the oblong ones, as used in
single-line systems, often fail at that exposed boot
and not inside.  But the older round ones are prone
to the internal diaphragms failing.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change

[LarryT]

Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently.  His allen 
wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the 
socket properly.  So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the 
only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench.

Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really 
like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle -

Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work?   Maybe a 14mm stub of 
allen into a socket with a universal?

Thx -
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 24, Issue 74

[Dan Weeks]

Bill:

Interesting your vac pump and mine failed at exactly the same milage.  
Sorry to hear your heater stuff ain't working better--mine cleared  
right up.

My trans shifts exactly the same now as it did before the pump  
replacement, incidently. Not sure whether the shop recalibrated it or  
not--they didn't mention doing so.

I have had the trans shift hard after a trans service, but that time  
the shop inadvertantly disconnected a vacuum line entirely. Perhaps  
the same thing happened to yours.

Good luck!

Dan
82 300SD, now 298k


On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just had to replace my vacuum pump, but I was told the pump  
> should be putting out 35lbs of vacuum.  I still have the defrost  
> only problem, but can't afford to fix those at the moment.  Quote  
> of $385 for that one, and I can't do that work.  Anyone else done  
> that for comparison? I also need to reset the vacuum on the  
> transmission, as it was set up with the lower vacuum.
>  Billr
> Jacksonville, FL
> 1981  300 SD  296k milwa
>

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Gary Hurst]

what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in?  these dogs
don't go around biting people.  for the most part they are just like little
children.  they like you and seek your approval.  unless a dog is badly
provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite you.


On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our
> Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from
> what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to
> have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we
> go).
>however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that
> reminded me of something; you might want to check with your
> homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect
> your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are
> classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be
> growing longer all the time.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote  the breed is
> > one of the most likely to bite "though". Unless I'm missing something.
> >
> [snip]
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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

[Tom Hargrave]

Thanks,
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   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
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071112  3.425  3.415  3.484   3.523   3.362   3.403   3.347  3.532  3.608
3.663
071105  3.303  3.290  3.375   3.381   3.244   3.278   3.219  3.411  3.508
3.524
071029  3.157  3.148  3.250   3.251   3.095   3.122   3.062  3.281  3.394
3.406
071022  3.094  3.078  3.182   3.186   3.022   3.067   2.994  3.229  3.323
3.338
071015  3.039  3.023  3.122   3.125   2.970   3.025   2.941  3.169  3.229
3.249
071008  3.035  3.031  3.123   3.137   2.977   3.028   2.946  3.139  3.167
3.197
071001  3.048  3.052  3.117   3.141   3.008   3.061   2.975  3.100  3.090
3.143
070924  3.032  3.037  3.100   3.124   2.993   3.054   2.971  3.028  3.054
3.093
070917  2.964  2.961  3.025   3.054   2.916   2.984   2.903  2.972  2.998
3.023
070910  2.924  2.912  2.968   2.991   2.872   2.942   2.865  2.955  2.982
2.995
070903  2.893  2.867  2.915   2.934   2.835   2.910   2.836  2.939  2.972
2.985
070827  2.863  2.834  2.906   2.898   2.800   2.870   2.808  2.947  2.965
2.986
070820  2.868  2.842  2.915   2.905   2.808   2.864   2.807  2.977  2.996
3.016
070813  2.847  2.820  2.923   2.901   2.776   2.835   2.771  2.980  3.019
3.054
070806  2.898  2.866  2.955   2.945   2.825   2.887   2.824  3.012  3.077
3.140
070730  2.886  2.847  2.946   2.923   2.806   2.885   2.808  3.003  3.058
3.152
070723  2.889  2.860  2.950   2.945   2.815   2.882   2.815  2.988  3.061
3.158
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Re: [MBZ] Quality & bugs

[Curt Raymond]

Interesting, my badly abused 190D (oh the abuse heaped upon it by the PO) has 
served me admirably. I drive it 110 miles a day and it asks very little.

This week it'll be in for an alignment to see if that'll clear up the squirrely 
handling. The last time I took it to my Indy he said there was nothing wrong 
with the suspension... If the alignment doesn't help I'll have him give it a 
more indepth look...

Oh and I need snow tires, it'll be snowy soon enough. And I need to change the 
coolant... But even if I don't do those things it'll chug right along...

-Curt

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This post seems to suggest that the 201 was over-engineered (what
 exactly 
does that mean, anyway?) and had exceptional quality. 

The car itself was OK. It was just all the mechanical bits that were
 inside 
it that failed on a regular schedule. You name it, it failed. The '85
 190E was 
the hands down worst car I ever owned.

Define quality, if you please.

RLE

   
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[Rich Thomas]

Yes, correct, it is a non-blinking blinker light.  It just stays on (or 
off, depending on failure mode) when the blinker fluid runs low and no 
longer provides proper lubrication, the blinker seizes up.  I have found 
that German synthetic provides much better service, but it is hard to find.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> The 91s have a warning light for low blinker fluid.
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Well, not a whole lot of difference, the only thing the 91 had that the
>> 89-90 (last 126 revision) did not was integrated cd changer, and traction
>> control available.  Dont think the 90 has the option for traction control,
>> and I know it did have the cd changer option.
>>
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "M.Affzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:31 PM
>> Subject: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Is there quite a difference between the 90 and the very rare 91 model
>>> mak
>>>   
 Those are VERY nice.  I have been on the lookout to find one, just dont
 see
 the 91's that often.

 
> 1991 560SEL without a doubt.>>
> Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thats great.  When I have one bad, I just reach into my big box of 
actuators and pull one out :)

Craig McCluskey wrote:
> In the recent discussions of leaking vacuum door lock systems, Larry said,
> 
>> You probably have a bad element somewhere - the rubber diaphragms are
>> damaged moe often than the rubber or plastic hoses. The element
>> diaphrams get torn and leak.
> 
> In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator
> that leak, but the "cover" that seals the actuating shaft to the plastic
> body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open the
> doors.
> 
> I've attached photographs of tonight's repair of my second broken W123
> door actuator (I now have a spare).
> 
> Photograph 1 shows a failed door actuator with a failed attempt at
> repairing with a plastic sandwich bag.
> 
> Photograph 2 shows the bag of Bosch parts used for the repair (one for
> each actuator). The Bosch part number is 3 340 522 025. These are
> available online from Rock Auto (http://www.rockauto.com). Do a part
> number search for that Bosch part number and you'll get a search result
> that allows you to buy the item. They're $1.85 each and come in bags of 5.
> I bought 3, so 2 were taken out before it was shipped. The shipping charge
> is more than the part.
> 
> Photograph 3 shows the Bosch part. This was intended to seal an electrical
> connection, with the wire coming out the small end.
> 
> Photograph 4 shows the repair in progress, with a pair of needle-nosed
> pliers being used to hold the actuating shaft up so the seal can be forced
> down over it.
> 
> Photograph 5 shows the finished repair and now functional door actuator.
> The seal is a little longer than needed but seems to work just fine.
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator

[Craig McCluskey]

In the recent discussions of leaking vacuum door lock systems, Larry said,

> You probably have a bad element somewhere - the rubber diaphragms are
> damaged moe often than the rubber or plastic hoses. The element
> diaphrams get torn and leak.

In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator
that leak, but the "cover" that seals the actuating shaft to the plastic
body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open the
doors.

I've attached photographs of tonight's repair of my second broken W123
door actuator (I now have a spare).

Photograph 1 shows a failed door actuator with a failed attempt at
repairing with a plastic sandwich bag.

Photograph 2 shows the bag of Bosch parts used for the repair (one for
each actuator). The Bosch part number is 3 340 522 025. These are
available online from Rock Auto (http://www.rockauto.com). Do a part
number search for that Bosch part number and you'll get a search result
that allows you to buy the item. They're $1.85 each and come in bags of 5.
I bought 3, so 2 were taken out before it was shipped. The shipping charge
is more than the part.

Photograph 3 shows the Bosch part. This was intended to seal an electrical
connection, with the wire coming out the small end.

Photograph 4 shows the repair in progress, with a pair of needle-nosed
pliers being used to hold the actuating shaft up so the seal can be forced
down over it.

Photograph 5 shows the finished repair and now functional door actuator.
The seal is a little longer than needed but seems to work just fine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Rich Thomas]

Dog for Sale
> 
> 
> 
>   Dog For Sale: OR free to good home.
>   Answers to the name of Dolly.
>   Excellent guard dog. 
>   Owner cannot afford to feed him anymore, as there are no more thieves, 
murderers, rapists or molesters left in the neighborhood for him to eat. 
> 
>   Most of them knew him as ' holy sh*t!! ' 
>   Your help will be appreciated. ... 


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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[Bill]

Interesting.  What kind of circumference would such a pump have?  Is it
inserted through the pipe or is a larger diameter hole dug with pump and
pipes dropped through that? What sort of current would such a pump require?
I doubt if we are in such a dome because we are at the top of a hill that
drops down to almost river level on all four sides within a mile or less. 
We certainly do have some hardpan in FL.  When I dug a drain field for a
bath I was installing in Lakeland [near Tampa] the 'uphill' end of the
trench had water in it, and I was able to get to less than 1/2 inch [very
carefully] of connecting the trenches with no seepage at all.  Percolation
rate through that stuff was almost nil. To use a spike stand sprinkler I had
to take a hammer and screwdriver and pound a hole in the stuff and stand the
sprinkler up in it.  Fortunately it was only in a small part of the yard,
but I had to extend the drain field another 10 feet to get past the hard pan
so the thing would work. In my next life I plan to be rich enough to have
the entire job done by the pros and not just the tank.  I was fresh out of
school then and the only option was sweat equity.
BillR  

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I would guess a well drilled four years ago would have a submersible pump 
lowered into the well.  The pumps you describe may be auxiliaries to provide

topside pressure.  I've heard of people using "booster" pumps topside if the

well is pretty deep since it takes part of the load off the submersible and 
can provide a better flow of water and higher pressure for the house and 
sprinkler system.
Another possibility I can think of is that the well diggers went through 
hardpan into a "pressure dome" and the water level came up the pipe to where

a surface pump could be used.  We had that happen when we hand drove a 
couple of wells in the Tampa area when we first came to Florida. 
Nevertheless, that seems unlikely given the low water levels both 
underground and above ground nowadays.

There "could" be a smaller jet pipe inside a larger "return" pipe.  This 
would look like a simple pump system but could actually be a jet pump.
Gerry
---
> From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Perhaps, as the 3" [4"?] pipe is big enough, but when it goes down it also
> has a single valve that seems to be the width of the pipe, and the 
> fittings
> on the pump don't suggest anything like that.  I'll look more closely next
> time I am out there, but with the sprinkler and two pumps tied together 
> [one
> pumps water into a pressurized tank and into the @175 gal aerator, the 
> other
> from the aerator into a pressurized tank for the house] it is a bit of a
> maze - and mostly underground.  The new well was dug about 4 years ago.
> BillR
> 
> Bill may have a (jet?) pump with two pipes in the casing.  Water is pumped
> down one pipe and up the other pipe bringing additional water with it.
> Those were common before submersible pumps were perfected.  They were > 
> not very efficient.  I forget the physics involved.  Venturi principle?
> Gerry
>
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[MBZ] Jet Pumps

[Frederick W Moir]

For "Jet" Pumps, read Jacuzzi. This was before hot tubs.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
One of these
One of those and
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[R A Bennell]

I never actually did it but I had intentions at one time to put a big red light 
on the dash of my old Suburban to
warn of oil pressure troubles. I bought (and still have somewhere no doubt) a 
round side marker type light intended
for a trailer or something like that. It was about 2 inches in diameter. I 
thought if that was in front of me, I
should notice it light up even in daylight.

Randy

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"R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Aren't those the ones with the warning light to warn that the
> warning light is getting dim?  I really like my old simple car.

What I would like in my W123 is a buzzer if the oil pressure got too
low or the temp got too high.  The gauges are nice but not very
attention-grabbing if something is going awry.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump

[LarryT]

If you use this method make sure you have the edge of the screwdriver on 
the pump and not the engine block.  Damage the pump and it doesn't matter - 
damage the block and you have  problems.   The mating surface must be flat 
so it meets the water pump and seals with the gasket.

I like the BFH (or LFH)  method better  - remove all the bolts & tap on 
the Pump and it'll probably fall off.   Maybe I've just been lucky but I 
haven't seen the hardening Permatex in a long time.

It's really not a dfficult job - just get a gal  of fresh antifreeze, a 
gasket (Rusty may provide one) and study the Workshop Manual - especially 
look at the work that must be done beforehand - sometimes the radiator needs 
to be removed for easier access.

Good luck -- 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump


> From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> So, I'll be replacing the water pump on my 300D -- any tips on
>> removing the old one, I've had trouble in the past separating the pump
>> from the pump housing.
>> Allan
> --
> I use a screw driver sharpened to a knife edge and gently tap it into the
> joint all around the water pump.  If the pump has been "glued" in with
> hardening permatex or something similar, you might have to do a "lot" of
> tapping.  I've never failed to get a pump loose that way.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Water heating, was Diesel/gas prices

[Tom Hargrave]

The problem with all publications is they tend to cycle the same content
through every 3 years

Thanks, Tom
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-Original Message-
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Sent: 11/13/07 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water heating, was Diesel/gas prices



andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> I subscribe to Mother Earth News. I really like it because it 1) is
> full of excellent, useful articles, and 2) is bimonthly (increasing
> the chance I can read it cover to cover).

I bought it at a local newsstand in the 70's to early 80's, then didn't
read it for about 15 years. Bought a year from some guy on eBay for $3,
the price wasn't $3 a year later. Should have bought ten years for $30,
but I was afraid Mother would have gone downhill over the years like
all the magazines I used to love and can't stand now. (Popular Science,
Buycycling, Field & Stream...)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Nov 13, 2007 3:52 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure how to diagnose bad hips besides grabbing the leg and
> gently pulling it sideward 'til the dog exhibits pain.

Hey, just like balljoints!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[ernest breakfield]

this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our 
Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from 
what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to 
have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we go).
however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that 
reminded me of something; you might want to check with your 
homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect 
your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are 
classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be 
growing longer all the time.


cheers!
e


Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote  the breed is
> one of the most likely to bite "though". Unless I'm missing something.
>   
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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Zoltan Finks]

Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote  the breed is
one of the most likely to bite "though". Unless I'm missing something.

The ears: When it flops over the head like that it is often indicitive
of someone having taped the ears up at some point. Sometimes GSDs
don't need taping, sometimes they do. And sometimes owners tape the
ears just in case. Look at the middle of the ear and you can picture
it having been taped.

Brian

On 11/13/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Nobody commented on her cockeyed ears (no pun intended).  What does
> > this signify?
>
> The right ear is normal IIRC. Never seen one flop over the head
> like her left ear instead of off to the side.
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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> Nobody commented on her cockeyed ears (no pun intended).  What does
> this signify?

The right ear is normal IIRC. Never seen one flop over the head
like her left ear instead of off to the side.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:
> 
> What I would like in my W123 is a buzzer if the oil pressure got too
> low or the temp got too high.  The gauges are nice but not very
> attention-grabbing if something is going awry.

For a while (about 30 years ago) Honda put a loud turn signal buzzer
on some of their street bikes. Wise riders rewired the buzzer to run
off the oil pressure lamp circuit. Idiot lights on a motorcycle
can go unnoticed for a LONG time, especially on a sunny day. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Water heating, was Diesel/gas prices

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> I subscribe to Mother Earth News. I really like it because it 1) is
> full of excellent, useful articles, and 2) is bimonthly (increasing
> the chance I can read it cover to cover).

I bought it at a local newsstand in the 70's to early 80's, then didn't
read it for about 15 years. Bought a year from some guy on eBay for $3,
the price wasn't $3 a year later. Should have bought ten years for $30,
but I was afraid Mother would have gone downhill over the years like
all the magazines I used to love and can't stand now. (Popular Science,
Buycycling, Field & Stream...)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> Seriously, everybody guess how much higher China's and India's oil
> demand is this year compared to last?

I would assume it's somewhere near China's claimed 10% GDP growth.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[Christopher McCann]

We could have lower demand and larger supplies and STILL pay more because we 
import it - so you must take the value of the dollar into account...and it has 
been falling for several years and took another big hit with the Chinese 
central bank announcement.

Chris



Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Tom Hargrave"  writes:

> Supply and demand rules dictate that the long term trend must rise.
>
> Less Supply + Great Demand = Higher Prices

I do recall hearing a report that some big-time financial guru (might
have been Warren Buffet) said that we were in an oil price bubble and
the prices were not justifiable based on current demand and supply and
that there would be a correction.  That was some months ago, maybe
early summer or so?

Allan

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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[andrew strasfogel]

I read recently that oil consumption (demand) only grew 1 percent for
China and India. If this is true then we are in one HELLUVA bubble
that could easily burst

Think "1615 Dutch Tulip Craze".

On Nov 13, 2007 5:24 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Supply and demand rules dictate that the long term trend must rise.
> >
> > Less Supply + Great Demand = Higher Prices
>
> I do recall hearing a report that some big-time financial guru (might
> have been Warren Buffet) said that we were in an oil price bubble and
> the prices were not justifiable based on current demand and supply and
> that there would be a correction.  That was some months ago, maybe
> early summer or so?
>
> Allan
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[Allan Streib]

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Supply and demand rules dictate that the long term trend must rise.
>
> Less Supply + Great Demand = Higher Prices

I do recall hearing a report that some big-time financial guru (might
have been Warren Buffet) said that we were in an oil price bubble and
the prices were not justifiable based on current demand and supply and
that there would be a correction.  That was some months ago, maybe
early summer or so?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[Allan Streib]

"R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Aren't those the ones with the warning light to warn that the
> warning light is getting dim?  I really like my old simple car.

What I would like in my W123 is a buzzer if the oil pressure got too
low or the temp got too high.  The gauges are nice but not very
attention-grabbing if something is going awry.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[andrew strasfogel]

Seriously, everybody guess how much higher China's and India's oil
demand is this year compared to last?

(Hint:  it's a lot less than you think).

On Nov 13, 2007 5:11 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Supply and demand rules dictate that the long term trend must rise.
>
> Less Supply + Great Demand = Higher Prices
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 11/13/07 04:05 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> OK, Gentleman's bet. We'll see.
>
> Chris
>
> andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everybody should just
> chill.  The price of oil has started falling and
> there is no economic basis for it not to retrace all the way back down
> to $60/bbl or even less in a matter of months if not weeks.
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 12:10 PM, Christopher McCann  wrote:
> > only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are
> borrowing money from the Fed, which is created by fiat - increasing the
> money supply. SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing the statistics on
> the M3 money supply as the growth in it is so high.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Hargrave  wrote: War tends to heat up the economy & make it grow
> because now we need to
> > replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends
> to be
> > anti-inflationary.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of archer
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:22 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Christopher McCann"
> >
> > > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's
> Central
> > > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its
> reserve
> > > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong
> currencies.
> > > It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes
> down in
> >
> > > history as the beginning of the upcoming period of high inflation.
> The US
> > > money supply is growing at 20%/ year. We don't have 20% economic
> > > growth...this is currency inflation by the Federal
> Reserve...currency
> > > debasement. When a currency is worth less, foreigners will want more
> of it
> >
> > > for the same product. On Nov. 6, the US dollar hit record lows
> against
> > > main foreign currencies. Example - You now need $1.10 to buy 1
> canadian
> > > dollar.(!!!). Fed Chairman Bernanke was grilled the following day in
> > > Congress by Ron Paul and Bernanke admitted that "this will only
> effect
> > > consumers who buy imported goods" - () - well, fuel is
> imported.
> > > Yes, it takes months for oil to reach the pump, but
> > > that does not mean that prices can't be raised now on account of it.
> (I
> > > know about the demand for heating oil and harvesting). All these
> things
> > > are combining, but the key is the plummeting dollar. We are in for a
> bad
> > > ride.
> > > Chris
> > --
> > In your opinion will we have government devaluation of the dollar such
> as
> > South American countries have routinely had in the past?
> >
> > Do you think we would have been in this situation without the Iraq
> war?
> >
> > Gerry Archer
> > '83 300D and 240D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[Tom Hargrave]

Supply and demand rules dictate that the long term trend must rise.

Less Supply + Great Demand = Higher Prices

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 11/13/07 04:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
OK, Gentleman's bet. We'll see. 

Chris

andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everybody should just
chill.  The price of oil has started falling and
there is no economic basis for it not to retrace all the way back down
to $60/bbl or even less in a matter of months if not weeks.



On Nov 12, 2007 12:10 PM, Christopher McCann  wrote:
> only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are
borrowing money from the Fed, which is created by fiat - increasing the
money supply. SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing the statistics on
the M3 money supply as the growth in it is so high.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tom Hargrave  wrote: War tends to heat up the economy & make it grow
because now we need to
> replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends
to be
> anti-inflationary.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of archer
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:22 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
>
> > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's
Central
> > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its
reserve
> > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong
currencies.
> > It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes
down in
>
> > history as the beginning of the upcoming period of high inflation.
The US
> > money supply is growing at 20%/ year. We don't have 20% economic
> > growth...this is currency inflation by the Federal
Reserve...currency
> > debasement. When a currency is worth less, foreigners will want more
of it
>
> > for the same product. On Nov. 6, the US dollar hit record lows
against
> > main foreign currencies. Example - You now need $1.10 to buy 1
canadian
> > dollar.(!!!). Fed Chairman Bernanke was grilled the following day in
> > Congress by Ron Paul and Bernanke admitted that "this will only
effect
> > consumers who buy imported goods" - () - well, fuel is
imported.
> > Yes, it takes months for oil to reach the pump, but
> > that does not mean that prices can't be raised now on account of it.
(I
> > know about the demand for heating oil and harvesting). All these
things
> > are combining, but the key is the plummeting dollar. We are in for a
bad
> > ride.
> > Chris
> --
> In your opinion will we have government devaluation of the dollar such
as
> South American countries have routinely had in the past?
>
> Do you think we would have been in this situation without the Iraq
war?
>
> Gerry Archer
> '83 300D and 240D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[archer]

I would guess a well drilled four years ago would have a submersible pump 
lowered into the well.  The pumps you describe may be auxiliaries to provide 
topside pressure.  I've heard of people using "booster" pumps topside if the 
well is pretty deep since it takes part of the load off the submersible and 
can provide a better flow of water and higher pressure for the house and 
sprinkler system.
Another possibility I can think of is that the well diggers went through 
hardpan into a "pressure dome" and the water level came up the pipe to where 
a surface pump could be used.  We had that happen when we hand drove a 
couple of wells in the Tampa area when we first came to Florida. 
Nevertheless, that seems unlikely given the low water levels both 
underground and above ground nowadays.

There "could" be a smaller jet pipe inside a larger "return" pipe.  This 
would look like a simple pump system but could actually be a jet pump.
Gerry
---
> From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Perhaps, as the 3" [4"?] pipe is big enough, but when it goes down it also
> has a single valve that seems to be the width of the pipe, and the 
> fittings
> on the pump don't suggest anything like that.  I'll look more closely next
> time I am out there, but with the sprinkler and two pumps tied together 
> [one
> pumps water into a pressurized tank and into the @175 gal aerator, the 
> other
> from the aerator into a pressurized tank for the house] it is a bit of a
> maze - and mostly underground.  The new well was dug about 4 years ago.
> BillR
> 
> Bill may have a (jet?) pump with two pipes in the casing.  Water is pumped
> down one pipe and up the other pipe bringing additional water with it.
> Those were common before submersible pumps were perfected.  They were > 
> not very efficient.  I forget the physics involved.  Venturi principle?
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[Christopher McCann]

OK, Gentleman's bet. We'll see. 

Chris

andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everybody should just chill.  The 
price of oil has started falling and
there is no economic basis for it not to retrace all the way back down
to $60/bbl or even less in a matter of months if not weeks.



On Nov 12, 2007 12:10 PM, Christopher McCann  wrote:
> only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are borrowing 
> money from the Fed, which is created by fiat - increasing the money supply. 
> SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing the statistics on the M3 money supply 
> as the growth in it is so high.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tom Hargrave  wrote: War tends to heat up the economy & make it grow because 
> now we need to
> replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends to be
> anti-inflationary.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of archer
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:22 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
>
> > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's Central
> > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its reserve
> > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong currencies.
> > It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes down in
>
> > history as the beginning of the upcoming period of high inflation. The US
> > money supply is growing at 20%/ year. We don't have 20% economic
> > growth...this is currency inflation by the Federal Reserve...currency
> > debasement. When a currency is worth less, foreigners will want more of it
>
> > for the same product. On Nov. 6, the US dollar hit record lows against
> > main foreign currencies. Example - You now need $1.10 to buy 1 canadian
> > dollar.(!!!). Fed Chairman Bernanke was grilled the following day in
> > Congress by Ron Paul and Bernanke admitted that "this will only effect
> > consumers who buy imported goods" - () - well, fuel is imported.
> > Yes, it takes months for oil to reach the pump, but
> > that does not mean that prices can't be raised now on account of it. (I
> > know about the demand for heating oil and harvesting). All these things
> > are combining, but the key is the plummeting dollar. We are in for a bad
> > ride.
> > Chris
> --
> In your opinion will we have government devaluation of the dollar such as
> South American countries have routinely had in the past?
>
> Do you think we would have been in this situation without the Iraq war?
>
> Gerry Archer
> '83 300D and 240D
>
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Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[andrew strasfogel]

Nobody commented on her cockeyed ears (no pun intended).  What does
this signify?

Also -Zoltan - what does it mean that a dog "bites through?"  If it's
what I think then that's a real deal breaker in my book.

On Nov 13, 2007 8:33 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or like here in Huntsville, where the animal control has an active rescue
> program and she works for animal control.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:27 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > I don't know what they are up to over there, but i doubt it is breeding.
> > http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pet/472531312.html
>
> Sounds like she wanted to do "pet rescue" work, so she just jumped in
> and started doing it. When she talks about "bail", it makes me wonder
> if she had to pay county animal control to give her the dogs. (I doubht
> the humane society would have given them to her without apaying them
> first)
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[R A Bennell]

Remember to carry rope (to tie the door so it does not flop around and get hit 
by other traffic).

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] door check question


Replacing the door check is an economical, fun way to spend an hour
and feel really good about yourself when the job is accomplished.  Or
you can do nothing and learn how to drive with a door that's stuck
OPEN.

Andrew
1983 300TD (multiple door checks replaced since 1989)

On Nov 13, 2007 4:29 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They can be taken apart and greased up but it is easier to put a new one
> or good S/H one in. Just part of regular maintenance.
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > All depends on how far the door check has cone but more often than not you
> > will be replacing the part.
> >
> > Lubricate it with some spray lube, not WD-40.  WD-40 is a solvent, not a
> > lubricant!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:39 AM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] door check question
> >
> > The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
> > wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
> > lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?
> >
> > Allan
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[Kaleb C. Striplin, work]

yes, and improved muffler bearings.

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- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?


> The 91s have a warning light for low blinker fluid.


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[R A Bennell]

Aren't those the ones with the warning light to warn that the warning light is 
getting dim?
I really like my old simple car.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?


The 91s have a warning light for low blinker fluid.

On Nov 13, 2007 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, not a whole lot of difference, the only thing the 91 had that the
> 89-90 (last 126 revision) did not was integrated cd changer, and traction
> control available.  Dont think the 90 has the option for traction control,
> and I know it did have the cd changer option.
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "M.Affzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:31 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?
>
>
> > Is there quite a difference between the 90 and the very rare 91 model
> > mak
> >> Those are VERY nice.  I have been on the lookout to find one, just dont
> >> see
> >> the 91's that often.
> >>
> >>> 1991 560SEL without a doubt.>>
> >>> Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[andrew strasfogel]

Replacing the door check is an economical, fun way to spend an hour
and feel really good about yourself when the job is accomplished.  Or
you can do nothing and learn how to drive with a door that's stuck
OPEN.

Andrew
1983 300TD (multiple door checks replaced since 1989)

On Nov 13, 2007 4:29 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They can be taken apart and greased up but it is easier to put a new one
> or good S/H one in. Just part of regular maintenance.
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > All depends on how far the door check has cone but more often than not you
> > will be replacing the part.
> >
> > Lubricate it with some spray lube, not WD-40.  WD-40 is a solvent, not a
> > lubricant!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:39 AM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] door check question
> >
> > The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
> > wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
> > lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?
> >
> > Allan
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[R A Bennell]

Ah, an optimist!

Randy

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices


Everybody should just chill.  The price of oil has started falling and
there is no economic basis for it not to retrace all the way back down
to $60/bbl or even less in a matter of months if not weeks.



On Nov 12, 2007 12:10 PM, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are borrowing 
> money from the Fed, which is created
by fiat - increasing the money supply. SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing 
the statistics on the M3 money
supply as the growth in it is so high.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: War tends to heat up the economy & 
> make it grow because now we need to
> replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends to be
> anti-inflationary.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of archer
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:22 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
>
> > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's Central
> > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its reserve
> > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong currencies.
> > It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes down in
>
> > history as the beginning of the upcoming period of high inflation. The US
> > money supply is growing at 20%/ year. We don't have 20% economic
> > growth...this is currency inflation by the Federal Reserve...currency
> > debasement. When a currency is worth less, foreigners will want more of it
>
> > for the same product. On Nov. 6, the US dollar hit record lows against
> > main foreign currencies. Example - You now need $1.10 to buy 1 canadian
> > dollar.(!!!). Fed Chairman Bernanke was grilled the following day in
> > Congress by Ron Paul and Bernanke admitted that "this will only effect
> > consumers who buy imported goods" - () - well, fuel is imported.
> > Yes, it takes months for oil to reach the pump, but
> > that does not mean that prices can't be raised now on account of it. (I
> > know about the demand for heating oil and harvesting). All these things
> > are combining, but the key is the plummeting dollar. We are in for a bad
> > ride.
> > Chris
> --
> In your opinion will we have government devaluation of the dollar such as
> South American countries have routinely had in the past?
>
> Do you think we would have been in this situation without the Iraq war?
>
> Gerry Archer
> '83 300D and 240D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?

[andrew strasfogel]

The 91s have a warning light for low blinker fluid.

On Nov 13, 2007 8:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, not a whole lot of difference, the only thing the 91 had that the
> 89-90 (last 126 revision) did not was integrated cd changer, and traction
> control available.  Dont think the 90 has the option for traction control,
> and I know it did have the cd changer option.
>
> ---
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "M.Affzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:31 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Fw: What was the last real Mercedes?
>
>
> > Is there quite a difference between the 90 and the very rare 91 model
> > mak
> >> Those are VERY nice.  I have been on the lookout to find one, just dont
> >> see
> >> the 91's that often.
> >>
> >>> 1991 560SEL without a doubt.>>
> >>> Rusty Cullens
> >>> BuyMBparts, Inc.
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Re: [MBZ] Water heating, was Diesel/gas prices

[andrew strasfogel]

I subscribe to Mother Earth News. I really like it because it 1) is
full of excellent, useful articles, and 2) is bimonthly (increasing
the chance I can read it cover to cover).

On Nov 12, 2007 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> see, that's exactly the direction to move in!
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Gary Hurst wrote:
> > >
> > > never did much of that to begin with, but i am using the water heater.
> >  it's
> > > really too hard for me to function without hot water or i'd shut that
> > down
> > > as well.
> >
> > You're in Georgia. Use a batch solar heater upstream of the gas heater.
> >
> > http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Home-Building/2007-10-01/Build-Your-Own-Solar-Water-Heater.aspx
> >
> > http://www.motherearthnews.com/Alternative-Energy/2007-02-01/Go-Solar-for-Free-Hot-Water.aspx
> >
> > http://www.motherearthnews.com/DIY/1984-01-01/Build-an-Integral-Passive-Solar-Water-Heater.aspx
> > http://www.findsolar.com/index.php?page=rightforme
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Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[Tom Hargrave]

Actually, Porsche was a struggling (and almost dead) company not too
many years ago. It's refreshing to see Capitalism at work.

Tom
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Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing. h.c.
F. 
Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche
Group in 
the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857
billion, 
up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110
billion.

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Re: [MBZ] euro car question

[Hendrik & Fay]

I believe that the VIN for a MB destined for use outside of the US is 
different. As such I don't know what the US type VIN will tell but I 
know the normal VIN will tell what country the car was sold in 
originally. This is handy to determine if a car is grey market or not.
This site will work for most VIN numbers 
http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng or 
http://www.benzworld.org/modelguide.html?

Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote:
> Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold in, or 
> produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices

[andrew strasfogel]

Everybody should just chill.  The price of oil has started falling and
there is no economic basis for it not to retrace all the way back down
to $60/bbl or even less in a matter of months if not weeks.



On Nov 12, 2007 12:10 PM, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> only if the government is spending money it actually has. We are borrowing 
> money from the Fed, which is created by fiat - increasing the money supply. 
> SO MUCH SO that the Fed quit publishing the statistics on the M3 money supply 
> as the growth in it is so high.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: War tends to heat up the economy & 
> make it grow because now we need to
> replace of the neat toys that went "boom". In other words, war tends to be
> anti-inflationary.
>
> Thanks,
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of archer
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel/gas prices
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
>
> > the main problem we are seeing right now is the impact of China's Central
> > Bank which on Nov 6 announced that it will begin diversifying its reserve
> > currencies away from weak ones like the dollar towards strong currencies.
> > It was a devastating statement and that date will be one that goes down in
>
> > history as the beginning of the upcoming period of high inflation. The US
> > money supply is growing at 20%/ year. We don't have 20% economic
> > growth...this is currency inflation by the Federal Reserve...currency
> > debasement. When a currency is worth less, foreigners will want more of it
>
> > for the same product. On Nov. 6, the US dollar hit record lows against
> > main foreign currencies. Example - You now need $1.10 to buy 1 canadian
> > dollar.(!!!). Fed Chairman Bernanke was grilled the following day in
> > Congress by Ron Paul and Bernanke admitted that "this will only effect
> > consumers who buy imported goods" - () - well, fuel is imported.
> > Yes, it takes months for oil to reach the pump, but
> > that does not mean that prices can't be raised now on account of it. (I
> > know about the demand for heating oil and harvesting). All these things
> > are combining, but the key is the plummeting dollar. We are in for a bad
> > ride.
> > Chris
> --
> In your opinion will we have government devaluation of the dollar such as
> South American countries have routinely had in the past?
>
> Do you think we would have been in this situation without the Iraq war?
>
> Gerry Archer
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[Gary Hurst]

i have no idea what differentiates a st louis rib from a kansas city rib.
the ribs i had were large, meaty with a nicely spicy wet sauce.

On Nov 13, 2007 4:31 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WTF are St. Louis ribs?  Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch?
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be
> > > > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city
> > >
> > > Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens
> > > with automatic conveyorized ones.  Easier (and safer) for the staff,
> > > but makes a totally generic pizza.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[Kaleb C. Striplin, work]

yep

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- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq


> The squirts?  Is that OKie for "the runs"?
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 9:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Pizza hut is nasty, it always gives me the squirts.
>>
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > Tom Hargrave wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I actually have a long history with Domino's pizza and I remember the
>> >> Bakers
>> >> Pride ovens. And yes, they make a superior pizza. Bakers Pride ovens 
>> >> have
>> >> a
>> >> slate floor & the even heat from the slate adds a nutty flavor to the
>> >> crust.
>> >
>> > But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night, 
>> > you
>> > could
>> > find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you would not be
>> > making
>> > pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart conveyors when I first saw 
>> > them
>> > 20
>> > years ago, but they don't waste gas all night. With the "pan" pizza, 
>> > there
>> > isn't much difference in taste between the firebrick and the conveyor.
>> >
>> > When the Domino's nearest to me opened up in 1986, it had a shiny new
>> > Hobart
>> > conveyor. When it was sold to a franchise operator in 1988, it had an 
>> > old
>> > Baker's Pride in it. Now it's closed. Too much competition. In 1986, it
>> > was just Ceasar's, Domino's, and a couple of restaraunts that didn't
>> > deliver. Now one of the restaraunts delivers, plus we've got Mancino's,
>> > Hungry Howie's, Pizza Hut(the real killer of Domino's) and Papa John's.
>> >
>> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[andrew strasfogel]

WTF are St. Louis ribs?  Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch?


On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be
> > > ordering dominoes pizza in new york city
> >
> > Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens
> > with automatic conveyorized ones.  Easier (and safer) for the staff,
> > but makes a totally generic pizza.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[Hendrik & Fay]

They can be taken apart and greased up but it is easier to put a new one 
or good S/H one in. Just part of regular maintenance.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> All depends on how far the door check has cone but more often than not you
> will be replacing the part.
>
> Lubricate it with some spray lube, not WD-40.  WD-40 is a solvent, not a
> lubricant!
>
> Thanks,
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>  
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:39 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] door check question
>
> The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
> wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
> lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq

[andrew strasfogel]

The squirts?  Is that OKie for "the runs"?

On Nov 12, 2007 9:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pizza hut is nasty, it always gives me the squirts.
>
> ---
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> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
>
>
> >
> >
>
> > Tom Hargrave wrote:
> >>
> >> I actually have a long history with Domino's pizza and I remember the
> >> Bakers
> >> Pride ovens. And yes, they make a superior pizza. Bakers Pride ovens have
> >> a
> >> slate floor & the even heat from the slate adds a nutty flavor to the
> >> crust.
> >
> > But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night, you
> > could
> > find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you would not be
> > making
> > pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart conveyors when I first saw them
> > 20
> > years ago, but they don't waste gas all night. With the "pan" pizza, there
> > isn't much difference in taste between the firebrick and the conveyor.
> >
> > When the Domino's nearest to me opened up in 1986, it had a shiny new
> > Hobart
> > conveyor. When it was sold to a franchise operator in 1988, it had an old
> > Baker's Pride in it. Now it's closed. Too much competition. In 1986, it
> > was just Ceasar's, Domino's, and a couple of restaraunts that didn't
> > deliver. Now one of the restaraunts delivers, plus we've got Mancino's,
> > Hungry Howie's, Pizza Hut(the real killer of Domino's) and Papa John's.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[Bill]

Perhaps, as the 3" [4"?] pipe is big enough, but when it goes down it also
has a single valve that seems to be the width of the pipe, and the fittings
on the pump don't suggest anything like that.  I'll look more closely next
time I am out there, but with the sprinkler and two pumps tied together [one
pumps water into a pressurized tank and into the @175 gal aerator, the other
from the aerator into a pressurized tank for the house] it is a bit of a
maze - and mostly underground.  The new well was dug about 4 years ago.  
BillR



Bill may have a (jet?) pump with two pipes in the casing.  Water is pumped 
down one pipe and up the other pipe bringing additional water with it. 
Those were common before submersible pumps were perfected.  They were not 
very efficient.  I forget the physics involved.  Venturi principle?
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Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff

[andrew strasfogel]

I do not envy pizza oven attendants in Phoenix.Major conundrum: do you
step inside the oven or outside to cool off?

On Nov 12, 2007 10:02 AM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember some stinkin' pizza outfit having a type of oven that was kind of
> like a multi leveled carrousel...like one of those pie display case thingys
> spinning around at boo-fays. These ovens had thin stone cooking surfaces and
> made better pizza than the conveyers, but not nearly good pizza as the
> Baker's Pride ovens.  I think it was Peter Piper out here in AZ.
>
> Bob R.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:48 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
>
> Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night,
> > you could find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you
> > would not be making pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart
> > conveyors when I first saw them 20 years ago, but they don't waste
> > gas all night. With the "pan" pizza, there isn't much difference in
> > taste between the firebrick and the conveyor.
>
> The Lang ovens we had were electric, and had timers so they would kick
> on and start heating at about 1:30.  They only took a couple of hours
> to pre heat, so by 4:00 they were ready to go (unless there had been a
> power failure overnight and the timers were off).  We had 6 ovens in
> our store, normally used only two or three.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump

[archer]

From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So, I'll be replacing the water pump on my 300D -- any tips on
> removing the old one, I've had trouble in the past separating the pump
> from the pump housing.
> Allan
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joint all around the water pump.  If the pump has been "glued" in with 
hardening permatex or something similar, you might have to do a "lot" of 
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Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump

[Zach]

Use a bigger hammer.

--- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've had trouble in the past separating the
> pump
> from the pump housing.
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[MBZ] replacing water pump

[Allan Streib]

So, I'll be replacing the water pump on my 300D -- any tips on
removing the old one, I've had trouble in the past separating the pump
from the pump housing.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[Zach]

Any idea what percentage of that will get taken by the German IRS?

It would be interesting also to know what percentage of that comes from
cars vs. other income like licensing, design work for other companies,
etc.

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> the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857
> billion, 
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[MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...

[RELNGSON]

Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. 
Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche Group in 
the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857 billion, 
up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110 billion.

RLE


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[MBZ] Carpet paint

[Mitch Haley]

>From a Saab mailing list I'm on:

We are in process of installing all "new" carpets in Project Lisa, the  
1974 Sonett III that our club is refurbishing. The carpet pieces have  
been selected as the best available from our several parts cars, but  
most of the pieces do have varying amounts of color fading from sun  
exposure here in Colorado.

Based on his prior experience with a carpet paint product, Bruce  
Harbison suggested SEM Color Coat aerosol so we ended up doing a match  
with #15173 Camel being the selected color. I sprayed two coats on all  
the pieces today with very good results using the mfg suggested  
process of nylon brushing the carpet after each coat. They look great  
- very close to original color - and will be installed at our next  
work party.

For those of you with fading carpets in your Sonett III go to 
  for detailed information 
about $15 for a 12 oz can, more that  enough to do one car.

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Re: [MBZ] euro car question

[Kaleb C. Striplin, work]

No, not exactly, just curious what country the car originally came from. 
For instance, I do know my latest euro car, the 84 300D, came from Germany 
because I found all the paperwork and letters back and forth from the person 
who bought it here and the person in Germany who shipped it over.  Also was 
the german classifieds from whever they were looking for their car.  Was 
very interesting.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] euro car question


> "Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold
>> in, or produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?
>
> Guess you want something like a European Carfax report.  Don't know
> whether such a service exists.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] euro car question

[Kaleb C. Striplin, work]

hmm, OK.  Assume I can look that up on the euro epc which I have not 
installed yet?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] euro car question


> The build sheet based on the VIN does (kinda)
>
> my 83 ->  Dealer Nato members sales (401)
> my 92 300TDt -> Freiburg branch (236)
> my 92 S -> Canada (701)
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ((CAT)) wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold
>> in, or produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?
>>
>> ---
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Re: [MBZ] Soy oil

[Luther]

BT, WRONG!  Methoxide is different.  See 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methoxide
Our substance is actually sodium/potassium hydroxide solution in 
methanol/ethanol.

Glycerine that is made from NaOH will NOT breakdown on the compost pile.  
Excessive amounts of Na is not good for your ecosystem.

Luther


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:24:00 -0600, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sodium hydroxide (lye same as I use to make soap)  and methanol = methoxide.
> Titrate the oil to get formula. Water in the WVO will react with the lye to
> saponify into soap rather than to separate glycerine. Product has to be
> washed anyway to yield a purer biodiesel. (Making soap, I'm mixing water
> with the lye (sodium hydroxide) to yield just the result I'm hoping will NOT
> happen when making biodiesel. )
>
> I'm not set up to reclaim the methanol from the glycerine yet. That would
> cut down on the cost.
>
> The methanol evaporates from the glycerine. Glycerine purified would have
> some value but the cost to do so isn't practical on small scale. It all
> breaks down on compost pile though..
>
> A note, glycerine is usually removed from commercial soaps as it have other
> value. Homemade and superfatted soaps retaining the glycerin are superior in
> cutting grease. I keep my MB mechanic supplied with goat milk shea butter
> soap. (Considering "while he was at it" he just happened to find the vac
> leak in the A/C one of the '85s. Didn't charge!)
>
> OK... please don't laugh, Y'all... but rather than driving around with
> exhaust smelling like fast food I've sometimes wondered what sandalwood or
> lilac exhaust would... NAW... that'd just be silly.
>
> T
>



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Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

[Tom Hargrave]

The valves are nickel plated brass.

Tom
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Original Message
From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 11/13/07 11:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Is the metal stainless or aluminum?

Luther

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:13:44 -0600, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> They are made of HDPE. Now I just need to find a "free" veggi oil
> source.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>Original Message
> From: ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 11/12/07 08:52 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> hi Tom!
>
> i may have missed it, but i don't see where it says what those
> fermenters are made of.
> FWIW, the common 5Gal carriers ("carboys") are HDPE, and i've got
> some of those that i've been using without incident for years.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>



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Re: [MBZ] Soy oil

[Luther]

NaOH will produce a soap that is more solid than KOH in the biodiesel reaction. 
 KOH is more forgiving if there is water in the oil or methanol/ethanol.

HDPE becomes fuel in the event of a fire...then the contents do the same  
Need I say more?

Luther

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:37:14 -0600, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I kinda slept through college chemistry when they were "cypherin'" those
> equasions on the board.. I only use Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) rather than
> potassium (KOH) because it's what I'm used to and what I have on hand for
> soap. I know the weights are different and more KOH is required for
> saponification ... but again, I am used to NaOH and the ratios. (LOL.. I
> don't test on animals. I test on friends.)
>
> OH... Mr. Tom, to my knowledge the lye and methanol are no problem in
> reacting w/HOPE. Check out www.tank-depot.com  Most of their reaction tanks
> for biodiesel are also sold as "wine tanks." The only issue is the
> temperature the plastic can withstand as most folks heat the oil to 130F
> where it is held for duration of reaction.
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

[Luther]

Is the metal stainless or aluminum?

Luther

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:13:44 -0600, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> They are made of HDPE. Now I just need to find a "free" veggi oil
> source.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>Original Message
> From: ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 11/12/07 08:52 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> hi Tom!
>
> i may have missed it, but i don't see where it says what those
> fermenters are made of.
> FWIW, the common 5Gal carriers ("carboys") are HDPE, and i've got
> some of those that i've been using without incident for years.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>



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Re: [MBZ] Soy Oil

[Luther]

HDPE isn't affected, but other plastics can be.  I don't know if Tom's plastic 
is HDPE or not...

Luther

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:03:11 -0600, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Luther  wrote:
>
>> The only way to tell is try.  Methanol is fairly safe, but when you
>> add
>> lye into it.  Biodiesel is also hard on some plastics.  Do you
>> need
>> a sample to soak a piece in??
>
> I don't think plastics are generally affected by lye, at least not
> HDPE.  They sell Drain-O in plastic bottles, and that basically just
> lye.
>
> Allan
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] euro car question

[Allan Streib]

"Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold
> in, or produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?

Guess you want something like a European Carfax report.  Don't know
whether such a service exists.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Ot : Tires

[Rich Thomas]

You have a spare that is the same?  Use that, buy a real cheap tire to 
replace it, then in 10-15k miles you will need a new set of tires 
anyway.  Otherwise you can get another one to match, the tread diff 
shouldn't matter much.

--R

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> I just had a blow out on my rear tire of a 2004 Nissan Pathfinder. It has  
> the original tires with 45,000 miles. There is still a lot of tread left. 
> Should 
>  I just replace the one tire? The original size is 245/65-17 How much bigger 
> or  smaller can I go? I see a lot of similar size new tires on Ebay. Thanks 
> for  the help guys 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] euro car question

[John M McIntosh]

The build sheet based on the VIN does (kinda)

my 83 ->  Dealer Nato members sales (401)
my 92 300TDt -> Freiburg branch (236)
my 92 S -> Canada (701)


On Nov 13, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ((CAT)) wrote:

> Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold  
> in, or produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Ot : Tires

[John Robbins]

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> I just had a blow out on my rear tire of a 2004 Nissan Pathfinder. It has  
> the original tires with 45,000 miles. There is still a lot of tread left. 
> Should 
>  I just replace the one tire? The original size is 245/65-17 How much bigger 
> or  smaller can I go? I see a lot of similar size new tires on Ebay. Thanks 
> for  the help guys 

I am by no means a tire expert, but my faith in those tires would be 
destroyed after that.  You can have plenty of tread life left, but the 
sidewalls could have problems, etc.  Go to tirerack.com and read the 
reviews for new tires...  Tirerack also has pretty good prices as well. 
I wouldn't buy a tire off eBay... what kind of warranty/service are you 
going to get (ie you get a bad tire and need to return it)?

John


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[MBZ] euro car question

[Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)]

Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold in, or 
produced for?  Will the VIN number or something reveal that?

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Re: [MBZ] Ot : Tires

[Allan Streib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I just had a blow out on my rear tire of a 2004 Nissan
> Pathfinder. It has the original tires with 45,000 miles. There is
> still a lot of tread left. Should I just replace the one tire? The
> original size is 245/65-17 How much bigger or smaller can I go? I
> see a lot of similar size new tires on Ebay. Thanks for the help
> guys

I'd replace the other rear as well, with that many miles already on
the tires.  Do you have a full-size spare?  If not you might consider
buying another wheel and using the current good rear tire as a spare.

If you change sizes, you'll need to change all the tires.  I would not
change sizes, it will throw off your speedometer/odometer and could
affect handling adversely.

-- 
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1966 230

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[MBZ] Ot : Tires

[Limon276]

I just had a blow out on my rear tire of a 2004 Nissan Pathfinder. It has  
the original tires with 45,000 miles. There is still a lot of tread left. 
Should 
 I just replace the one tire? The original size is 245/65-17 How much bigger 
or  smaller can I go? I see a lot of similar size new tires on Ebay. Thanks 
for  the help guys 



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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[archer]

> The pump on my well [170 feet deep] is in the pump room behind my house, 
> and
> the well is out by the street. Unless there is some power source hidden in
> the pipe I don't think it could have a pump at the bottom.  We are located
> 54' above the river level, so the first 120' rise to ground water level
> should be easy.  Still have 50' or so to bring it up, and my long ago
> physics said 32' was all vacuum would lift water.  I believe they also 
> went
> on to explain how they did it, but by then I suspect I was daydreaming.
> BillR

> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> I will have to admit that I have never quite understood how all that
>> works.
>> I also don't understand why I can get water from my well that is many
>> times
>> deeper than vacuum should draw it.
>
> The usual well has a pump at the bottom.  In any event,
> water is pushed up, not sucked up.
> -- Jim
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down one pipe and up the other pipe bringing additional water with it. 
Those were common before submersible pumps were perfected.  They were not 
very efficient.  I forget the physics involved.  Venturi principle?
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[Bill]

The pump on my well [170 feet deep] is in the pump room behind my house, and
the well is out by the street. Unless there is some power source hidden in
the pipe I don't think it could have a pump at the bottom.  We are located
54' above the river level, so the first 120' rise to ground water level
should be easy.  Still have 50' or so to bring it up, and my long ago
physics said 32' was all vacuum would lift water.  I believe they also went
on to explain how they did it, but by then I suspect I was daydreaming.
BillR
Jacksonville FL

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

> I will have to admit that I have never quite understood how all that 
> works.
> I also don't understand why I can get water from my well that is many 
> times
> deeper than vacuum should draw it.

The usual well has a pump at the bottom.  In any event,
water is pushed up, not sucked up.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog

[Glenn Brown]

Gary,
Just the pictures could win one over, good luck.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC

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Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq (plus a little college football)

[John Robbins]

tom savage wrote:
> I don't know what an Egg Bowl is, but I support anything that
> involves beating Ole Miss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_Bowl

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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[M.Affzaal.Khan]

Replace at the earliest ,it will eventually stay stuck in the fully open 
position.
mak
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:39 PM
Subject: [MBZ] door check question


> The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
> wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
> lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[Tom Hargrave]

All depends on how far the door check has cone but more often than not you
will be replacing the part.

Lubricate it with some spray lube, not WD-40.  WD-40 is a solvent, not a
lubricant!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:39 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] door check question

The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS

[Jim Cathey]

> I will have to admit that I have never quite understood how all that 
> works.
> I also don't understand why I can get water from my well that is many 
> times
> deeper than vacuum should draw it.

The usual well has a pump at the bottom.  In any event,
water is pushed up, not sucked up.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] door check question

[Jim Cathey]

> The passenger rear door on my 300D is getting hard to close.  From
> wide open, it gets "stuck" about halfway closed.  Can this be fixed by
> lubrication or do I need to replace the door check?

You can try lubrication, though getting a good grease
to where it needs to be will involve just as much work
as replacing it.  But don't be surprised if it's too
late, those sliding-ball checks tend to fail spectacularly.

I have had very poor luck repairing these, the 'fix' just
doesn't last long.  The leaf-spring roller jobs are much
better units, except that the pot metal is too thin and
they always break.  I've never been able to repair one
of those, either.

The best door checks I've seen are found in the 107.

-- Jim


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