Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
> I thought the first true computer was build by the British... Not talking about the _invention_ of the computer, that can serve as a point of contention among all who care to debate it. (Fun over beer.) Talking about the explosive proliferation of same. That's quite clearly a US thang. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
Yes, this contributed to my love of simplicity. The post '72 cars started getting so much performance dampening garbage that I did not know how to deal with. (Not that I was aware of it at the exact time - in '72 I was one year old). My '68 big block was as simple as it gets (after some mods) - no A/C, no P/S. One fan belt. Nothing to hamper performance and nothing to confuse me with trash I didn't care about. As for the dreadful '80s: I recall when the Mustang GT came out with it's legendary 5.0 ltr 302 c.i. engine. It was the hot performer, but I recall shaking my head at its pitiful 225 h.p. Now we have 4 cyl. engines making that power, and 6 cyl. engines making 300 h.p. and V8s making 400 h.p. Seems the auto industry has surmounted the emissions challenge. Brian Rick wrote:And warm air to the air filter housing and intake manifold heat and ... there was dozens of vacuum hoses running seemingly everywhere. Hoses that cracked...and leaked after 40 or 50 k miles, not like the hard lines of the 80's and newer. Perhaps these systems were quite simple, but at the time, my teenage mind was boggled by the apparent complexity of it all... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
I thought the first true computer was build by the British to break the enigma code. The enigma code being the forerunner of the internet but of course Al Gore was right there and built both things, then went on to invent global warming and is now further cashing in by making movies about global warming which explains how we can beat global warming by the little people tightening the belt. Hendrik who thinks Al should be elevated to super hero status Jim Cathey wrote: >> Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only >> one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over >> there? >> > > It's _a_ meter, not _the_ meter. Simple! > > Also, though we may have gallons they are not _imperial_ gallons, > which are somewhat larger. > > The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the > home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume > measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice > how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) > The machines seem to prefer the old units. > > -- Jim > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
OK Don wrote: > > I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and crankcase breather/PCV first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
Not many people drink Fosters over hers, considered cat's pee. Most people drink VB (Victoria Bitter) which is a real bitter beer but that has also changed over time and is now more like dish water. Personally I prefer Euro beer, one of my favourites is Hollandia, relatively cheap and tastes nice http://www.tastebeer.com.au/beer/162 http://www.beerguide.com.au/beer-reviews/Bavaria-Brouwerij-NV/Hollandia Usually 10 to 20 dollars cheaper than other imports and pretty much on par with domestic stuff. Hendrik E M wrote: > You can always tell if it's authentic Fosters from Australia, you'll find a > BBQed shrimp in the bottom of each bottle. hee hee > > Ed > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ursula gets some Mobil 1 Delvac!
It's official now, she's switched over to synthetic! The oil filter housing studs are OK as are the o-rings on the tube. We're heading for 300K and beyond! Next will be the valve adjustment once I find the stinking wrenches! I'm noticing the slightest amount of reluctance to start since it's cranking a half second longer or so. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi+, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- > > On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or > so. > > It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. > Smokes > > more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. > > > > What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from > > Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll > have > > to get a third car first.. > > > > Whaddya think. > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. > It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes > more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. > > What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from > Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have > to get a third car first.. > > Whaddya think. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. Bob R '77 300D 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test
I got 13 out of 16. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I missed two of 16 > > > > Jim in Phoenix > > > -Original Message- > From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 9:03 am > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test > > > > > I got 14 out of 16 right. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Try this aerial test > > > > www.guessthespot.com > > > > I missed one. > > > > RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT....Steam trains
Ah CNR I see. My uncle was a chief engineer with them in blue river, then station master in north battleford before he retired. I you look at the headlamp he was responsible for the ones that rotated so the beam would light up the track to the left/right on turns in the rockies so the crew would have a chance to see the washed out track/bridge or pending Moose on curves Oddly those are hyped features on the new mercedes of this era... On Feb 16, 2008, at 4:12 PM, E M wrote: > Gerry, > > Here is a pic of the train. I was lucky enough to be allowed on > this very > train while it was undergoing some restoration. They would do over > 100 mph > (160 kph) on a straight run. Sitting in the cab and looking down > the length > of it, I can tell you, it must have been an amazing experience at > speed! I > still have an old iron pan that was used to cook breakfast on, > during those > long runs from Canada to the US. I was told, they would attach a long > handle to the pan, open the furnace doors and hold it right inside. > The > heat must have been incredible during the hot summer months. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/grantmac/413632532/sizes/o/ > > Photo not taken by me, credit to the photographer who posted it. > > Ed > 300E > John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT now beer. aerial views not like OZ
This is kind of fun. http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=240# Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ROFL!!! I know about brandy snifters and German drinking mugs, but never > heard of Wheat Beer glasses. Gotta ask a German friend on another list > about that. Wonder who drinks the most beer per capita; Canadians or > Aussies? > > Gerry > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I agree, beer making is a real art, and unfortunately, I feel it doesn't > >get > > the respect in North America that is does elsewhere. We enjoy it, but > we > > tend to give it the kind of respect we give eating Kraft Slices, rather > > than > > what a Frenchman gives to eating Brie. I've made wine, and that's > easy. > > I > > mean, how hard can a product be to make, that was produced at one time > by > > dumping the ingredients in a tub and jumping on them with your bare > feet? > > I > > once told a German friend that I like wheat beer. She asked how I drink > > it, > > and I said out of the bottle. After scolding me, she ordered me not to > > drink another beer, until the proper wheat beer glasses arrived, which > she > > was sending right away. The glasses arrived with very exact > instructions > > on > > how to pour beer too. lol. I don't think her opinion of Canadians was > > ever > > the same after that. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Beer making is a real art. I tried making it one time and it came out > >> smelling like acetone. > >> > >> Father made it when I was a kid. Mother would scold him about drinking > >> too > >> much, so he would sneak three bottles up from the cellar before dinner > >> and > >> hide them someplace. After dinner he would listen to the radio and > drink > >> his three bottles one after the other while mother thought he was > nursing > >> one. > >> One night mother almost caught him with bottles in hand so he quickly > put > >> them in the oven. Supper was already on the table, but mother stuck an > >> extra casserole in the oven and turned it on. > >> > >> When the first bottle went off it took the other two with it; quite an > >> explosion. Jippy the dog, who was a coward anyway, went straight > through > >> the bottom of the screen door and didn't come out from under the porch > >> until > >> the next day. I don't think dad ever made beer after that. > >> Gerry > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there > >> was > >> > nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought > all > >> > the > >> > gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer > >> > bottles > >> > and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to > >> > siphon > >> > the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so > >> > peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole > new > >> > respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the > $3.40 > >> > I > >> > pay > >> > per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did > >> smell > >> > amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having > to > >> > repaint the ceiling. hee hee. > >> > > >> > Ed > >> > 300E > >> > > >> > On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States > >> have > >> >> a > >> >> clue as to what either is. > >> >> > >> >> I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at > >> least > >> >> a > >> >> quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Tom Hargrave > >> >> www.kegkits.com > >> >> 256-656-1924 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -Original Message- > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> On Behalf Of E M > >> >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM > >> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ > >> >> > >> >> Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, > >> and > >> >> I'd > >> >> never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the > surfing > >> on > >> >> Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we > went > >> >> with > >> >> canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to > a > >> >> surfboard. > >> >> > >> >> Ed > >> >> 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer > >> >> really > >> >> does taste like fairy pee. > >> >> > >> >> Ed > >> >> 300E > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used
Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test
I missed two of 16 Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 9:03 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test I got 14 out of 16 right. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Try this aerial test > > www.guessthespot.com > > I missed one. > > RLE > > > ** > The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
It seems than at Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:27:32 -0600, Tom wrote: > Carb icing is caused by a combination of events, starting with > warm humid air at just above freezing. As the air is pulled > through the venturi, the air temperature drops. The air > temperature itself is not an issue but without a heat source, > the air cools the carb venturi down to well below freezing. > Then water vapor condenses on the surfaces in the form of ice. > > Carb heat was used well into the 50s to prevent icing in 32 - > 38 degree weather. Colder temperatures are not an issue > because there is not enough moisture in the air to cause > icing. Even though your Chevy no longer has the heat riser, it > still has base heat from the exhaust passage in the intake > manifold and this heat source is warming your carburetor & > preventing icing. Not true in my case. It has been blocked off with the intake manifold gasket on all my engines. So the only thing that warms my carburetors is the coolant in both ends of the intake and the cylinder head just a few inches away. Obviously, the coolant won't help much at first. And I think the '85 has a thick fiber spacer between the manifold and the carburetor base. > Cars quit drawing air from behind the radiator in the 80s > because under hood temperatures had risen to the point where > they were impacting performance and economy. Corvette started > drawing cold air from above the top of the radiator in the 70s > for the same reason. Exactly my point. > I also get a kick out of the "cold air kits" that disable the > factory cold air intake & pull warm air from behind the > radiator. > > Tom I too find that humorous. There are a lot of "improvements" available for suckers with money and no understanding of physics. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
Give the dealer a quick ring, maybe a new key will cost less than you think. Every so often, I still get a pleasant shock from my dealers Never got a free key, but I did get a very nice free leather key pouch once. Well, not "free", I did spend $1800 on a service at the time. Ok, maybe I just got screwed. But it was a very nice key pouch. :-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Son had the only key we have made by an "impression" and trial-and-error > method. > MB provides "original" keys via VIN - that's not by copying a used key - > that's exactly the same as the original. > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT now beer. aerial views not like OZ
ROFL!!! I know about brandy snifters and German drinking mugs, but never heard of Wheat Beer glasses. Gotta ask a German friend on another list about that. Wonder who drinks the most beer per capita; Canadians or Aussies? Gerry - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I agree, beer making is a real art, and unfortunately, I feel it doesn't >get > the respect in North America that is does elsewhere. We enjoy it, but we > tend to give it the kind of respect we give eating Kraft Slices, rather > than > what a Frenchman gives to eating Brie. I've made wine, and that's easy. > I > mean, how hard can a product be to make, that was produced at one time by > dumping the ingredients in a tub and jumping on them with your bare feet? > I > once told a German friend that I like wheat beer. She asked how I drink > it, > and I said out of the bottle. After scolding me, she ordered me not to > drink another beer, until the proper wheat beer glasses arrived, which she > was sending right away. The glasses arrived with very exact instructions > on > how to pour beer too. lol. I don't think her opinion of Canadians was > ever > the same after that. > > Ed > 300E > > On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Beer making is a real art. I tried making it one time and it came out >> smelling like acetone. >> >> Father made it when I was a kid. Mother would scold him about drinking >> too >> much, so he would sneak three bottles up from the cellar before dinner >> and >> hide them someplace. After dinner he would listen to the radio and drink >> his three bottles one after the other while mother thought he was nursing >> one. >> One night mother almost caught him with bottles in hand so he quickly put >> them in the oven. Supper was already on the table, but mother stuck an >> extra casserole in the oven and turned it on. >> >> When the first bottle went off it took the other two with it; quite an >> explosion. Jippy the dog, who was a coward anyway, went straight through >> the bottom of the screen door and didn't come out from under the porch >> until >> the next day. I don't think dad ever made beer after that. >> Gerry >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there >> was >> > nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all >> > the >> > gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer >> > bottles >> > and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to >> > siphon >> > the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so >> > peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new >> > respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 >> > I >> > pay >> > per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did >> smell >> > amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to >> > repaint the ceiling. hee hee. >> > >> > Ed >> > 300E >> > >> > On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States >> have >> >> a >> >> clue as to what either is. >> >> >> >> I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at >> least >> >> a >> >> quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Hargrave >> >> www.kegkits.com >> >> 256-656-1924 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> On Behalf Of E M >> >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM >> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ >> >> >> >> Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, >> and >> >> I'd >> >> never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing >> on >> >> Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went >> >> with >> >> canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a >> >> surfboard. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer >> >> really >> >> does taste like fairy pee. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> 300E >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: >> 2/11/2008 >> > 5:28 PM >> >> > >> > >> >> >> ___ >> ht
Re: [MBZ] OT now beer. aerial views not like OZ
I agree, beer making is a real art, and unfortunately, I feel it doesn't get the respect in North America that is does elsewhere. We enjoy it, but we tend to give it the kind of respect we give eating Kraft Slices, rather than what a Frenchman gives to eating Brie. I've made wine, and that's easy. I mean, how hard can a product be to make, that was produced at one time by dumping the ingredients in a tub and jumping on them with your bare feet? I once told a German friend that I like wheat beer. She asked how I drink it, and I said out of the bottle. After scolding me, she ordered me not to drink another beer, until the proper wheat beer glasses arrived, which she was sending right away. The glasses arrived with very exact instructions on how to pour beer too. lol. I don't think her opinion of Canadians was ever the same after that. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beer making is a real art. I tried making it one time and it came out > smelling like acetone. > > Father made it when I was a kid. Mother would scold him about drinking > too > much, so he would sneak three bottles up from the cellar before dinner and > hide them someplace. After dinner he would listen to the radio and drink > his three bottles one after the other while mother thought he was nursing > one. > One night mother almost caught him with bottles in hand so he quickly put > them in the oven. Supper was already on the table, but mother stuck an > extra casserole in the oven and turned it on. > > When the first bottle went off it took the other two with it; quite an > explosion. Jippy the dog, who was a coward anyway, went straight through > the bottom of the screen door and didn't come out from under the porch > until > the next day. I don't think dad ever made beer after that. > Gerry > > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there > was > > nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all > > the > > gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer > > bottles > > and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to > > siphon > > the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so > > peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new > > respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 I > > pay > > per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did > smell > > amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to > > repaint the ceiling. hee hee. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States > have > >> a > >> clue as to what either is. > >> > >> I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at > least > >> a > >> quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tom Hargrave > >> www.kegkits.com > >> 256-656-1924 > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> On Behalf Of E M > >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ > >> > >> Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, > and > >> I'd > >> never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing > on > >> Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went > >> with > >> canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a > >> surfboard. > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer > >> really > >> does taste like fairy pee. > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E > >> > >> > >> > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: > 2/11/2008 > > 5:28 PM > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_ok
Re: [MBZ] Climate control 1980 300D
On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > and the W126 cars are very very nice. The W140 chassis is also quite > nice, but suffers from expensive electronics problems, to the point > no one wants them. I'll note once you stick in the revised (double/triple/etc) part the stability improves greatly. However the general stigma impacts the price. You just need to find one for which the owner has paid the price of fixing it all and buy it cheap. Then it's golden, and yes mine is not for sale... John 1983 300TDt 388k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 215k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 205k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
Son had the only key we have made by an "impression" and trial-and-error method. MB provides "original" keys via VIN - that's not by copying a used key - that's exactly the same as the original. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
ha ha ha. :-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beer making is a real art. I tried making it one time and it came out > smelling like acetone. > > Father made it when I was a kid. Mother would scold him about drinking > too > much, so he would sneak three bottles up from the cellar before dinner and > hide them someplace. After dinner he would listen to the radio and drink > his three bottles one after the other while mother thought he was nursing > one. > One night mother almost caught him with bottles in hand so he quickly put > them in the oven. Supper was already on the table, but mother stuck an > extra casserole in the oven and turned it on. > > When the first bottle went off it took the other two with it; quite an > explosion. Jippy the dog, who was a coward anyway, went straight through > the bottom of the screen door and didn't come out from under the porch > until > the next day. I don't think dad ever made beer after that. > Gerry > > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there > was > > nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all > > the > > gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer > > bottles > > and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to > > siphon > > the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so > > peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new > > respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 I > > pay > > per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did > smell > > amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to > > repaint the ceiling. hee hee. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States > have > >> a > >> clue as to what either is. > >> > >> I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at > least > >> a > >> quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tom Hargrave > >> www.kegkits.com > >> 256-656-1924 > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> On Behalf Of E M > >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ > >> > >> Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, > and > >> I'd > >> never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing > on > >> Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went > >> with > >> canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a > >> surfboard. > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer > >> really > >> does taste like fairy pee. > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E > >> > >> > >> > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: > 2/11/2008 > > 5:28 PM > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Power of two, is that system kinda like, buy two Big Mac's for the price of one? hee hee Ed 300E > > The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the > home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume > measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice > how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) > The machines seem to prefer the old units. > > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
We're not required to us parking lights here, but I would often see them used in Italy. I've always been curious, just how long can you leave a parking light on, before it drains the battery to the point where it's a problem starting, or, it will start, but then you're asking the alt to work overtime to charge the depleted battery? And a little trivia, which country and city was the first to use parking lights? Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, then why does the warning light illuminate when I turn the switch > > to > > headlights on (right turn), they are all working but the parker is not, > > which is turned on by switching to the left. > > Anyway I'll replace the parker lights and see where I am at. > > The nighttime parking light positions only work with the > ignition off, in which case the illumination warning module > is not operable. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views of Kath & Kim
Yeah it's 7, I think the reasoning behind the watermark is to stop illegal copying of programs. Otherwise I could just tape K & K and sell it off as a genuine officially licensed thingy. Hendrik Jeff Zedic wrote: > So is Channel 7 the commercial channel they went to? I recently "acquired" > season 4 and it has a station ident in the corner. I'd like to know who's > the brain surgeon that came up with that annoying "feature". > > Zedic > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
Beer making is a real art. I tried making it one time and it came out smelling like acetone. Father made it when I was a kid. Mother would scold him about drinking too much, so he would sneak three bottles up from the cellar before dinner and hide them someplace. After dinner he would listen to the radio and drink his three bottles one after the other while mother thought he was nursing one. One night mother almost caught him with bottles in hand so he quickly put them in the oven. Supper was already on the table, but mother stuck an extra casserole in the oven and turned it on. When the first bottle went off it took the other two with it; quite an explosion. Jippy the dog, who was a coward anyway, went straight through the bottom of the screen door and didn't come out from under the porch until the next day. I don't think dad ever made beer after that. Gerry - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there was > nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all > the > gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer > bottles > and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to > siphon > the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so > peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new > respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 I > pay > per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did smell > amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to > repaint the ceiling. hee hee. > > Ed > 300E > > On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States have >> a >> clue as to what either is. >> >> I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at least >> a >> quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. >> >> Thanks, >> Tom Hargrave >> www.kegkits.com >> 256-656-1924 >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of E M >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ >> >> Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, and >> I'd >> never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing on >> Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went >> with >> canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a >> surfboard. >> >> Ed >> 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer >> really >> does taste like fairy pee. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 > 5:28 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
I need to send you a "sample". Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there was nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all the gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer bottles and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to siphon the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 I pay per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did smell amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to repaint the ceiling. hee hee. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States have > a > clue as to what either is. > > I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at least > a > quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ > > Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, and > I'd > never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing on > Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went with > canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a > surfboard. > > Ed > 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer really > does taste like fairy pee. > > Ed > 300E > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
I've never purchased a key from a dealer. Do they cut it from a stored computer template when you give your VIN? I know a lot of people wait until a key is somewhat old, and worn, and then cut a key from it. What they end up with is a copy of an old worn key. lol. They start off with a key that's already 50% gone, and in a year, wonder why it takes so much jiggling in the locks to work. I've only made copies from lightly used originals, and then tuck the originals away should I need them again in the future. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We HAVE a key that was made at one of those local hardware stores, key > places, etc. It will not work in the door locks and is problemmatic in > the > ignition switch. That's why I'm trying to help'em find one via VIN a la > MB, > etc. > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
We HAVE a key that was made at one of those local hardware stores, key places, etc. It will not work in the door locks and is problemmatic in the ignition switch. That's why I'm trying to help'em find one via VIN a la MB, etc. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
> Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only > one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over > there? It's _a_ meter, not _the_ meter. Simple! Also, though we may have gallons they are not _imperial_ gallons, which are somewhat larger. The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) The machines seem to prefer the old units. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
> OK, then why does the warning light illuminate when I turn the switch > to > headlights on (right turn), they are all working but the parker is not, > which is turned on by switching to the left. > Anyway I'll replace the parker lights and see where I am at. The nighttime parking light positions only work with the ignition off, in which case the illumination warning module is not operable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT....Steam trains
Thanks, Ed, good picture. I never heard of the long handled skillet so it must be a Canadian invention. I was up in the cab several times as a grade schooler, but never got to ride anyplace but the passenger cars. Dad never complained about the heat, even when he had to wear a wool uniform in the summer. He did complain about the coal smoke, though. Gerry > Gerry, > Here is a pic of the train. I was lucky enough to be allowed on this very > train while it was undergoing some restoration. They would do over 100 > mph > (160 kph) on a straight run. Sitting in the cab and looking down the > length > of it, I can tell you, it must have been an amazing experience at speed! > I > still have an old iron pan that was used to cook breakfast on, during > those > long runs from Canada to the US. I was told, they would attach a long > handle to the pan, open the furnace doors and hold it right inside. The > heat must have been incredible during the hot summer months. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/grantmac/413632532/sizes/o/ > > Photo not taken by me, credit to the photographer who posted it. > > Ed > 300E > > On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Yes Gerry, one of my Great Grandfathers was an engineer, (driving them), >> and >> my other Great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, he (designed them). >> Ed >> >> Fascinating! Was that the really big engines with many driving wheels >> for >> climbing the mountains? I've seen pictures of engines with two sets of >> steam cylinders which were used for that purpose out west. Would be >> interesting to see pictures of the 6000 if you can send them. >> Gerry >> >> P.S. Attached picture (if it comes through) is the type engine used on >> the >> Louisville, Ky / St.Louis,Ill run during the early 20th century. I >> remember >> only the bigger engines as a child during the 1930s. Father was crewman >> with uniform. >> -- >> -- >> He was part of the team that designed the 6000 steam engines, used by >> Grand >> Trunk and Canadian National. I still have the original factory pics as >> they >> rolled off the line. >> Ed >> 300E >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 > 5:28 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 500K
Possibly, but you usually see the intake and exhaust on opposite sides of the head with dual cams, ans these are on the same side. Tom - what metal is the firewall made from? Sure looks like new - how did that happen? Do you have "before" pictures? On Feb 15, 2008 11:26 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably dual overhead cams, shaft driven. > > Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
I think the keys for an '85 were pretty standard. Check around at a few of those key cutting places in hardware stores and malls. I found a small place in a mall that cut some keys for my old porsche. Cutting, plus the blank was $12. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 16-year-old grandson needs new key for his '85 318i Bimmer. Can a Bimmer > owner get orig.-type keys via VIN the way we MB owners can? Rusty, can > you > help me? > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Aerial view test
'Missed one - George W's place. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Bimmer key
16-year-old grandson needs new key for his '85 318i Bimmer. Can a Bimmer owner get orig.-type keys via VIN the way we MB owners can? Rusty, can you help me? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views of Kath & Kim
hee hee, I know that brain surgeon very well. Just a good idea over done. Remember when they would just flash the channel from time to time, and fade it back out after a few seconds. I guess now with over 800 channels, they want to constantly remind you were you are. :-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So is Channel 7 the commercial channel they went to? I recently "acquired" > season 4 and it has a station ident in the corner. I'd like to know who's > the brain surgeon that came up with that annoying "feature". > > Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
You can always tell if it's authentic Fosters from Australia, you'll find a BBQed shrimp in the bottom of each bottle. hee hee Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beer is better in Canada. Also, the make Fosters in Canada & truck it into > the States so that they can call it an import. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:27 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] aerial views > > Funnily enough it has been a while since I flew over Bushes ranch but it > could be Ophras place. I did guess Alcatraz for the first one but then I > did watch a movie about someone trying to break out of the place or was > it trying to break in. > Obviously to be fair this sort of thing would have to be global and > include things like Buckingham palace and other world landmarks. > > Hendrik > who's been to Europe, Asia, Kiwiland and all round OZ but not to the > Americas, wouldn't mind visiting Canada, which is supposed to be a lot > like Oz but coldermuch colder but has better Beer than the US > and the naked news is produced there, wouldn't mind being part of the > studio audience for a taping. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> <> > >> > >> > > Not a traveler, then. > > > > RLE > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 > 7:08 PM > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
After changing a timing belt once, and feeling pretty much like there was nothing I couldn't do, I decided to make some wheat beer. I bought all the gear, followed all the steps, collected lots of authentic 500ml beer bottles and lovingly prepared them. All was going well until it came time to siphon the beer into the bottles. Things took a real ugly turn and I got so peeved, it all ended up down the drain. After that, I had a whole new respect for brewers, and I now feel they earn every penny of the $3.40 I pay per bottle for wheat beer. :-) But I'll tell you, the kitchen did smell amazing for about 2 weeks after that, even though I ended up having to repaint the ceiling. hee hee. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States have > a > clue as to what either is. > > I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at least > a > quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ > > Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, and > I'd > never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing on > Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went with > canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a > surfboard. > > Ed > 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer really > does taste like fairy pee. > > Ed > 300E > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
Beer is better in Canada. Also, the make Fosters in Canada & truck it into the States so that they can call it an import. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] aerial views Funnily enough it has been a while since I flew over Bushes ranch but it could be Ophras place. I did guess Alcatraz for the first one but then I did watch a movie about someone trying to break out of the place or was it trying to break in. Obviously to be fair this sort of thing would have to be global and include things like Buckingham palace and other world landmarks. Hendrik who's been to Europe, Asia, Kiwiland and all round OZ but not to the Americas, wouldn't mind visiting Canada, which is supposed to be a lot like Oz but coldermuch colder but has better Beer than the US and the naked news is produced there, wouldn't mind being part of the studio audience for a taping. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> >> >> > Not a traveler, then. > > RLE > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
That one might be worth a lot; old as it is. Does it have a glass face or do you open it? Gerry - - Original Message - From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've got an 1892 Waltham that was used on the RR. Someone left it with my > father in law's father [a RR conductor] as a pledge for a loan around > 1900, and I am told it kept time within 1 minute a year for 50 years. It > runs now when I wind it, but that is not too often. > BillR > -Original Message- > From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't remember since it was years ago. Point was that it would just go > back in storage and the oil would dry out again, I suppose. The weight of > the watch is remarkable. When my father worked on passenger runs and wore > a uniform, he would car ry it in a "watch pocket" in the vest which was > worn under the jacketsnip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT....Steam trains
Gerry, Here is a pic of the train. I was lucky enough to be allowed on this very train while it was undergoing some restoration. They would do over 100 mph (160 kph) on a straight run. Sitting in the cab and looking down the length of it, I can tell you, it must have been an amazing experience at speed! I still have an old iron pan that was used to cook breakfast on, during those long runs from Canada to the US. I was told, they would attach a long handle to the pan, open the furnace doors and hold it right inside. The heat must have been incredible during the hot summer months. http://www.flickr.com/photos/grantmac/413632532/sizes/o/ Photo not taken by me, credit to the photographer who posted it. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes Gerry, one of my Great Grandfathers was an engineer, (driving them), > and > my other Great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, he (designed them). > Ed > > Fascinating! Was that the really big engines with many driving wheels for > climbing the mountains? I've seen pictures of engines with two sets of > steam cylinders which were used for that purpose out west. Would be > interesting to see pictures of the 6000 if you can send them. > Gerry > > P.S. Attached picture (if it comes through) is the type engine used on the > Louisville, Ky / St.Louis,Ill run during the early 20th century. I > remember > only the bigger engines as a child during the 1930s. Father was crewman > with uniform. > -- > -- > He was part of the team that designed the 6000 steam engines, used by > Grand > Trunk and Canadian National. I still have the original factory pics as > they > rolled off the line. > Ed > 300E > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
>From my (USA) point of view, our Northern neighbors are split into English & French Canadians. The English speaking side is very similar to us and we could easily be one country. The French speaking side is very different from us. Not better or worse, just culturally different. At risk of pissing off someone on the list, I'd say that it might be best to give the French Canadians to France - just my personal observation from spending some time in Montreal. And I have no problem understanding Canadians or Australians. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ Where on Earth did you get the idea we're like Oz? For one thing, people can understand us when we speak! We never put beetroot on our burgers. And if you said, "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to Macca's" over here you'd get locked up. Other than that, and the fact that your neighbours are better than ours, we are somewhat similar. But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
You need to look at a globe to see things to scale. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ I was thinking of the Kiwis. Up here, they seem to be close to them but I was shocked to find out how far away they actually are. I think it's like those older maps that stretched things. Greenland looked smaller than it is. The US looked the same size as Canada even though it's quite a bit smaller, and NZ looked like it was close to Oz. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views of Kath & Kim
So is Channel 7 the commercial channel they went to? I recently "acquired" season 4 and it has a station ident in the corner. I'd like to know who's the brain surgeon that came up with that annoying "feature". Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
It's vegemite in OZ, marmite in the UK & very few here in the States have a clue as to what either is. I thought about trying to make my own since I brew beer and have at least a quart of brewers yeast left over after each batch. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, and I'd never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing on Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went with canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a surfboard. Ed 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer really does taste like fairy pee. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where on Earth did you get the idea we're like Oz? > > For one thing, people can understand us when we speak! > > We never put beetroot on our burgers. > > And if you said, "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to > Macca's" > over here you'd get locked up. > > Other than that, and the fact that your neighbours are better than ours, > we > are somewhat similar. > > But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? > > Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
Yeah, those posh people, who do they think they are, with their spell check and proper punctuation, and spelling colour with an U, when you can just as easily spell it color, and the whole world still knows what you're talking about. You don't want the likes of them in positions of power, they're nothing but trouble. ;-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cause we want to be like the mericuns, well actually your average labour > supporter can't spell real good and it just makes it easier and less posh. > > > Hendrik > > > Jeff Zedic wrote: > > > > But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? > > > > Zedic > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT was Subaru Diesel, now Honda Diesel
Honda will be importing the 2009 Accord which is 50 state legal, without additives, such as urea. Jalopnik as a road test and driving impression of the Q7 4.2TDI and the Civic with the same engine as will be imported in the Accord. http://jalopnik.com/index.php?refId=354682 scroll down until ou find it. was second from top Cheers -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views of Kath & Kim
Do they provide subtitles for you lot? Although I don't think Kath and Kim are that good now they defected to a commercial TV station, same old story the Ozzie taxpayer gives these people a break and then they go off chasing the big bucks. I reckon they should be made to pay back the production costs. Hendrik Jeff Zedic wrote: > There's an idea, you come here for a taping of Naked News, and I'll go there > for Kath & Kim. > > Zedic > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT aerial views not like OZ
Oh I don't know, I think we have lots in common. IWe like beer too, and I'd never say no to a little marmite on my toast. :-) Ok, so the surfing on Lake Ontario sucks, but we have canoing. And the only reason we went with canoes was we found it easier to strap a 24 or beer in one, than to a surfboard. Ed 300E, who loves his neighbours to the south, even though their beer really does taste like fairy pee. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where on Earth did you get the idea we're like Oz? > > For one thing, people can understand us when we speak! > > We never put beetroot on our burgers. > > And if you said, "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to > Macca's" > over here you'd get locked up. > > Other than that, and the fact that your neighbours are better than ours, > we > are somewhat similar. > > But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? > > Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
I've got an 1892 Waltham that was used on the RR. Someone left it with my father in law's father [a RR conductor] as a pledge for a loan around 1900, and I am told it kept time within 1 minute a year for 50 years. It runs now when I wind it, but that is not too often. BillR -Original Message- From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 2/16/08 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc Don't remember since it was years ago. Point was that it would just go back in storage and the oil would dry out again, I suppose. The weight of the watch is remarkable. When my father worked on passenger runs and wore a uniform, he would car ry it in a "watch pocket" in the vest which was worn under the jacket. When he worked on freight runs and wore work clothes, he would carry it in the usual pants watch pocket. Riding the steam trains in those days was a lot of fun for a kid, and a railroaders family members could ride free all they wanted. Gerry - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > how much was this big sum? > > On Feb 15, 2008 9:11 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. I >> remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker >> periodically >> to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 when he retired from >> the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker said it would have to be >> disassembled so the dried oil could be cleaned out of the jewel bearings >> and >> that it would then be good as new. He wanted a big price to do it, so I >> declined.snip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
Cause we want to be like the mericuns, well actually your average labour supporter can't spell real good and it just makes it easier and less posh. Hendrik Jeff Zedic wrote: > > But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? > > Zedic > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
We have loads of neighbours, to the east is Kiwiland, to the south we have Tasmania, to the west is Africa, to the north is whole lot of places, including East Timor in which Oz is meddling at the moment. OK to visit our neighbours we can't drive but a rowboat and a bit of muscle and Bob's your Uncle we are there. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: > Australia has no neighbors, not sure how no neighbors could be "better > than ours." Or maybe your point is that *nothing* is better than > USAmericans, which I take to mean that you hold USAmericans in very low > esteem. Please explain... > --R > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT....Steam trains
Yes Gerry, one of my Great Grandfathers was an engineer, (driving them), and my other Great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, he (designed them). Ed Fascinating! Was that the really big engines with many driving wheels for climbing the mountains? I've seen pictures of engines with two sets of steam cylinders which were used for that purpose out west. Would be interesting to see pictures of the 6000 if you can send them. Gerry P.S. Attached picture (if it comes through) is the type engine used on the Louisville, Ky / St.Louis,Ill run during the early 20th century. I remember only the bigger engines as a child during the 1930s. Father was crewman with uniform. -- -- He was part of the team that designed the 6000 steam engines, used by Grand Trunk and Canadian National. I still have the original factory pics as they rolled off the line. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did someone in your family work on the railroad? > Gerry > --- > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ha ha ha! Oh, and I do have one too. > > Ed > > 300E > > On 16/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just put some Mobil1 0W30 in it, and CHANGE THE FUSE! > >> --R > >> archer wrote: > >> > Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. > >> > I remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker > >> > periodically to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 > >> > when he retired from the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker > >> > said it would have to be disassembled so the dried oil could be > >> > cleaned out of the jewel bearings and that it would then be good as > >> > new. He wanted a big price to do it, so I declined. Watchmaker said > >> > such watchs were common and not worth a great deal as antiques. The case was gold plated and the movement was 21 jewel IIRC. > >> > Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 41855 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080216/09c7c1e2/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
Canada and Oz are said to be sister countries. Be advised, the taping of the Naked News is moved indoors between the months Oct-May, so book your audience tickets in advance for best seats. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funnily enough it has been a while since I flew over Bushes ranch but it > could be Ophras place. I did guess Alcatraz for the first one but then I > did watch a movie about someone trying to break out of the place or was > it trying to break in. > Obviously to be fair this sort of thing would have to be global and > include things like Buckingham palace and other world landmarks. > > Hendrik > who's been to Europe, Asia, Kiwiland and all round OZ but not to the > Americas, wouldn't mind visiting Canada, which is supposed to be a lot > like Oz but coldermuch colder but has better Beer than the US > and the naked news is produced there, wouldn't mind being part of the > studio audience for a taping. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> <> > >> > >> > > Not a traveler, then. > > > > RLE > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
I don't know, I'm not American. Probably multimeter as in multi-measuring device. There really isn't such a thing as multimeter, all meters are the same length, a meter in theory, unless measured in China, in which case, you're allowed to be off a couple of cm one way or the other and it's still considered a meter. ;-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only > one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? > > Hendrik > always thinking > > E M wrote: > > Keep in mind, I'm an > > idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little > > multimeter. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
I was thinking of the Kiwis. Up here, they seem to be close to them but I was shocked to find out how far away they actually are. I think it's like those older maps that stretched things. Greenland looked smaller than it is. The US looked the same size as Canada even though it's quite a bit smaller, and NZ looked like it was close to Oz. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
There's an idea, you come here for a taping of Naked News, and I'll go there for Kath & Kim. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
Australia has no neighbors, not sure how no neighbors could be "better than ours." Or maybe your point is that *nothing* is better than USAmericans, which I take to mean that you hold USAmericans in very low esteem. Please explain... --R Jeff Zedic wrote: > Where on Earth did you get the idea we're like Oz? > > For one thing, people can understand us when we speak! > > We never put beetroot on our burgers. > > And if you said, "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to Macca's" > over here you'd get locked up. > > Other than that, and the fact that your neighbours are better than ours, we > are somewhat similar. > > But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? > > Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views not like OZ
Where on Earth did you get the idea we're like Oz? For one thing, people can understand us when we speak! We never put beetroot on our burgers. And if you said, "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to Macca's" over here you'd get locked up. Other than that, and the fact that your neighbours are better than ours, we are somewhat similar. But why is it that the Ozzie Labor Party spells labour wrong? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 500K
> > Naturally we want to hear about the drive!! BTW, did you > > make a recording of the engine running? Never heard one - > > Here you go: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_pAtav8bw > > For all the noise it makes, it doesn't go over 2000 rpm in the > video and the kompressor doesn't engage. > > Tom Sweet!! To bad YouTube clobbers the video and audio quality... I'd sure be interested in a good audio recording - especially including the kompressor! Your in the St. Louis area, right? Might be able to work something out. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
Funnily enough it has been a while since I flew over Bushes ranch but it could be Ophras place. I did guess Alcatraz for the first one but then I did watch a movie about someone trying to break out of the place or was it trying to break in. Obviously to be fair this sort of thing would have to be global and include things like Buckingham palace and other world landmarks. Hendrik who's been to Europe, Asia, Kiwiland and all round OZ but not to the Americas, wouldn't mind visiting Canada, which is supposed to be a lot like Oz but coldermuch colder but has better Beer than the US and the naked news is produced there, wouldn't mind being part of the studio audience for a taping. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> >> >> > Not a traveler, then. > > RLE > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? Hendrik always thinking E M wrote: > Keep in mind, I'm an > idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little > multimeter. > > Ed > 300E > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
OK, then why does the warning light illuminate when I turn the switch to headlights on (right turn), they are all working but the parker is not, which is turned on by switching to the left. Anyway I'll replace the parker lights and see where I am at. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: >> I thought the self diagnostic system checks all the circuits and only >> illuminates when the headlight are turned on. >> > > Doesn't. The warning only lights when it's _trying_ to turn > on any given light and it won't. (And the ignition is on.) > There's a memory for the brake and turn signal lights, IIRC. > > -- Jim > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and ignition switch position
Just as a little bit of useless trivia, MB changed the position of the keyswitch on RHD cars in the 90's. In the 201 and 124's it was to the left of the steering wheel but the 202 and 210's onwards they put it to the right, which is how every other car is. Took a bit of getting used to when I bought my first Benz. Hendrik Peter Frederick wrote: > One click past off to the left is the right side, two clicks left is > the left side. Been that way since at least the 60's. > > Benz doesn't change things much -- I got a kick out of a friend who > had a W210 and complained that the keyswitch wasn't illuminated like > it was in his Ford -- until he looked in my old '72 W108 and realized > that Benz has put the keyswitch in exactly the same place relative to > the steering wheel since the mid '50s! No need to light it up, if > you drive a Benz they are all in the same place. > > Peter > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
If like here, take your ownership to the dealer, and they'll give you a full printout of the service history performed by them. Nice to look back to see what was done, and what will possible soon need attention. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah but Rusty is in a little place called the US of America and I am in > a big place called Oztralia. Those bulbs I usually pull out of wrecks > but later model Mercs are a bit scarce at the self service wreckers. > Might have to bite the bullet and sneak into the stealership. Man alive > they want 65 ozbeans for a owners manual. At least the maintenance > booklet was in the TE, complete with data card. > > Hendrik > 89 300TE > 85 190E > 84 230E > 81 U1300L > > LarryT wrote: > > Hi Hendrik, > > I bought 6 of the little bulbs from Rusty (when ordering other > stuff) > > after looking at several FLAPS unsuccessfully. Also, some of the bulbs > must > > be frosted as they will be way too bright if a non-frosted bulb is used. > > > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Yeah but Rusty is in a little place called the US of America and I am in a big place called Oztralia. Those bulbs I usually pull out of wrecks but later model Mercs are a bit scarce at the self service wreckers. Might have to bite the bullet and sneak into the stealership. Man alive they want 65 ozbeans for a owners manual. At least the maintenance booklet was in the TE, complete with data card. Hendrik 89 300TE 85 190E 84 230E 81 U1300L LarryT wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > I bought 6 of the little bulbs from Rusty (when ordering other stuff) > after looking at several FLAPS unsuccessfully. Also, some of the bulbs must > be frosted as they will be way too bright if a non-frosted bulb is used. > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New Subaru diesel
would be nice if they could get it clean enough for California, and then we can get it in the US,... cheers! e Alex Chamberlain wrote: > First in-depth story I've seen about Subaru's first-in-the-world boxer > diesel engine. Same horsepower rating as their normally aspirated > gasoline four, but nearly twice the torque. Nice. > > http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=124553/pageNumber=1 > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat issue in '84 300D
The problem is your foam temp sensor intake hose under the dash is probably long gone. Replace it and you will be good as new. Glenn Brown wrote: > As some of you may remember, I had posted a note after returning from a > Pbgh. Christmas trip when the heat disappeared after 1/2-1 hr. at interstate > speed and I had to keep turning the heat thumbwheel to MAX (i.e., past the > click) in order to get heat again. All I would get was maximum heat, and > the regulated heat would keeping reverting to no heat shortly after turning > the thumbwheel back to regulated temperature. I removed the monovalve to > see if there were any tears/holes in the rubber diaphragm . . . there were > none. The only thing I saw odd was that there was a small amount of crud of > some sort on the monovalve screen. For those who keep pointing me in the > direction of the heat recirculation hose, I changed this years ago, as well > as the in dash temp sensor. I just got back from a short trip where I was > averaging 50-55mph and the same thing occurred after ~ 35 min., so I may > just install a backup monovalve I've got to see if this resolves the > problem. > > G. M. Brown > Brevard, NC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] revised SL
> The new Auto motor Und Sport has a picture article about it. Two direct > injection V-6s, 3 & 3.5 liter (305hp) with the SL63 (530hp) replacing the > SL55. > No, no diesels. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial views
> <> > Not a traveler, then. RLE > ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy /2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat issue in '84 300D
> I removed the monovalve to see if there were any tears/holes > in the rubber diaphragm . . . there were none. Did you vigorously shake the insert to get any trapped water out of the solenoid plunger? They can get hydro-locked and not move when/as they're supposed to. I did nothing but remove and inspect a monovalve, and shake it out, and that restored the heat in my wife's 560 SL. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
will do, thanks. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dual filament bulbs. > > Replace both fronts, if one died the other won't be far behind. > > > Peter > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
I fixed the carb on my daughters 1970s model Toyota sports car. The carb had a water jacket around it. I wonder which method worked better; the water jacket or the "heat riser" like I had on my first car: A 1935 Chevrolet? (-:] Gerry -- - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It seems than at Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:04:34 -0800, Peter wrote: > >> The carb air heat was to prevent icing. > ??? > No. It's to get the carburetor to "operating temperature" a > quickly as possible to minimise the dreadful emissions at, and > just after, startup. The "heat riser" valve is closed to force > exhaust across the intake manifold. Once the intake is warm, it > opens and lets the exhaust flow normally. > > I have driving more than 400,000 miles with small block Chevy's > with the heat riser removed in climates from 110F (45C) to -35F > (-38C). Carburetor has never frozen. The engine takes a bit > longer to warm up, but the spark plugs on last a _lot_ longer! > >> I get a kick out of >> the K&N crowd crowing about "cold air intakes" as if this were >> something new. >> >> Peter > > But it is a good thing. Is there any car made since the early > '80 that did _not_ have a hose/pipe to draw engine intake air > from someplace other than behind the radiator? > > --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Dual filament bulbs. Replace both fronts, if one died the other won't be far behind. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
What amuses me the most about the "cold air intake systems" is the obvious lousy air-flow "design"-- fluids don't go around corners very well, and I seem to remember 1 90 and three or four 45 degrees bends in one on a newer Ford pickup. That intake horn on my old 280 SE 4.5L probably makes a huge difference in performance -- the opening is right in a high pressure area behind the gap between the hood and the front fender, right above the oil cooler, and that lovely venturi shape should increase the velocity quite a bit,so that the air goes through the filter and down the throttle body faster. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Well I'll be, it works. lol. I also found the source of the "light" warning lamp in the dash going off, I think? Front right parking light is out, but the turn signal works. Are they different bulbs ? Keep in mind, I'm an idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little multimeter. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One click counter clockwise from OFF position is right parking, two clicks > CCW is left. > > DUH! I was looking for the fuse until I realised those directional parking > lamps only work when the ignition is OFF. > > > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:11:08 -0500 > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light? > > > > > To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out how to turn those one. Is > it > > one turn on the light switch to the left, and then use the turn signal > stock > > to indicate the side you want to activate ? > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
Carb icing is caused by a combination of events, starting with warm humid air at just above freezing. As the air is pulled through the venturi, the air temperature drops. The air temperature itself is not an issue but without a heat source, the air cools the carb venturi down to well below freezing. Then water vapor condenses on the surfaces in the form of ice. Carb heat was used well into the 50s to prevent icing in 32 - 38 degree weather. Colder temperatures are not an issue because there is not enough moisture in the air to cause icing. Even though your Chevy no longer has the heat riser, it still has base heat from the exhaust passage in the intake manifold and this heat source is warming your carburetor & preventing icing. Cars quit drawing air from behind the radiator in the 80s because under hood temperatures had risen to the point where they were impacting performance and economy. Corvette started drawing cold air from above the top of the radiator in the 70s for the same reason. I also get a kick out of the "cold air kits" that disable the factory cold air intake & pull warm air from behind the radiator. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: 2/16/08 1:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes It seems than at Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:04:34 -0800, Peter wrote: > The carb air heat was to prevent icing. ??? No. It's to get the carburetor to "operating temperature" a quickly as possible to minimise the dreadful emissions at, and just after, startup. The "heat riser" valve is closed to force exhaust across the intake manifold. Once the intake is warm, it opens and lets the exhaust flow normally. I have driving more than 400,000 miles with small block Chevy's with the heat riser removed in climates from 110F (45C) to -35F (-38C). Carburetor has never frozen. The engine takes a bit longer to warm up, but the spark plugs on last a _lot_ longer! > I get a kick out of > the K&N crowd crowing about "cold air intakes" as if this were > something new. > > Peter But it is a good thing. Is there any car made since the early '80 that did _not_ have a hose/pipe to draw engine intake air from someplace other than behind the radiator? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
Don't confuse manifold heating with intake air pre-heat -- a carbureted engine runs like dog poop stone cold because there is no significant fuel evaporation, and hence very poor ignition of the mixture. The heat riser heats the MANIFOLD to reduce fuel pooling and cause earlier significant vaporization so the mixture can be leaned out sooner. Intake air preheat keeps the temperature drop across from producing icing and to give better fuel vaporization -- there is a valve in the intake horn that pulls heated air from the exterior of the exhaust manifold into the intake to maintain constant (or at least not too cold) air temp. Works MUCH better than heating the bottom of the intake. Stuck heat risers cause all sorts of problems, and today you won't see them even on carbureted engines because the fuel is so much better. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Heat issue in '84 300D
As some of you may remember, I had posted a note after returning from a Pbgh. Christmas trip when the heat disappeared after 1/2-1 hr. at interstate speed and I had to keep turning the heat thumbwheel to MAX (i.e., past the click) in order to get heat again. All I would get was maximum heat, and the regulated heat would keeping reverting to no heat shortly after turning the thumbwheel back to regulated temperature. I removed the monovalve to see if there were any tears/holes in the rubber diaphragm . . . there were none. The only thing I saw odd was that there was a small amount of crud of some sort on the monovalve screen. For those who keep pointing me in the direction of the heat recirculation hose, I changed this years ago, as well as the in dash temp sensor. I just got back from a short trip where I was averaging 50-55mph and the same thing occurred after ~ 35 min., so I may just install a backup monovalve I've got to see if this resolves the problem. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] and now for a little MB chat. :-)
lol, yeah, I've seen one too. Think those rims will strike fear in the hearts of Prious (sp) owners? Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's really sad is that there's a Brabus tuned Smart available in the > UK!! > > HmmmI just checked and it's available here in Canada too. > > > > Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes andVettes
Good overview of the history of the development of emissions equipment in the US, and how it got started. Good thread overall, makes for fun, informative ready. Thanks guys, Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The lousy performance and horrible gas milage of the early 70's cars > was partially a result of nearly all the automotive companies bitter > battle to avoid ANY regulations, and they got caught with no real > engineered solution. > > Gotta remember Detroit was in coast mode back then -- they spent much > more on fighting regulations than they did on improving their > products (in the 70's, most US cars were using carburetors developed > in the 30's and 50's -- hardly any changes) and GM in particular was > using old, worn out machinery to make engines. The latter is the > source of the "can't get it to idle smooth" Chevy V8 -- crankpins > were up to 0.030" off center (in any direction), lifter bores were up > to 10 degrees off vertical and up to -.0110" off center, rods were > highly variable in length, etc -- resulting in engines with different > valve and piston timing and compression in each cylinder. Cams were > sloppy, too, but not usually so bad. Rebuild to spec (called > "blueprinting" in the trade) and they turned out considerably more hp > and ran much cleaner. Imagine that, having all the cylinders produce > the same compression ratio, all the valve open the same amount with > the same timing, and having the piston at TDC at the correct time, > what an idea! > > I don't think GM ever put valve guides or seat into the 350 -- just > drilled out the boss in the cast iron. > > My brother remembers "cc-ing" Chrysler Hemi heads -- you had to grind > out the combustion chamber to make them all the same on racing > engine, else they shake themselves to death. I certainly hope > Chrysler fixed that in the current ressurection of the Hemi (that old > 1951 design tarted up with EFI). > > Took a few years for everyone to get a system that worked fairly > well. Chrysler was ahead of the game, simply because they didn't > have the cash to fight California in the mid 60's are started work > earilier (positive crankcase ventilation in about 1962, I think, EGR > with fixed ports in the bottom of the intake in 1972 in CA, etc). > > > Peter > > On Feb 16, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > There was very little in the way of "vacuum emissions crap" on > > mid-70s cars > > and what was installed was limited to the vacuum operated EGR valve > > and > > ignition timing. The hoses & temperature sensors were used to > > disable the > > EGR & timing modifications while the car was warming up & was > > actually a > > clever low tech solution. > > > > The EGR valve was & is still used to dump exhaust gas back into the > > engine > > to reduce peak cylinder temperatures, which reduces NO2 emissions. > > > > Mercedes used the same type systems in the 70s - so did everyone else. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Rick Knoble > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:01 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes > > andVettes > > > >> By the late 70's, everyone, including GM and Mercedes figured out > >> how to > >> make horsepower in a production environment again and performance > >> started > >> improving. In the late 80, everyone started making huge > >> performance gains > >> and everyone's been climbing since. > > > > Thanks in part to improved engine management through the use of > > computer > > controls. The vacuum emissions crap on mid-seventies domestic autos > > was > > horrific. > > > > Rick Knoble > > '85 300 CD > > '87 190 DT > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: > > 2/15/2008 > > 7:08 PM > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > __
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gasMercedesandVettes
Ford used water heated carbs for many years & the plate was usually seriesed with the cabin heater. The system did not work as well as GM's solution for cold start-ups because it took longer for the water to heat up. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: 2/16/08 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gasMercedesandVettes > The carb air heat was to prevent icing. A butterfly valve in the snorkel to draw air across the exhaust manifold was also used, and would certainly help keep the carb from icing, especially as the valve wasn't 100% efficient. My Falcon has the heater core hose go through the carb mounting plate, that's got to be purely for ice prevention. It doesn't even have a snorkel. I don't think carbs nestled in the V of the V8 engines had too much of an icing problem, there was enough ambient heat to help prevent it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT for those of you who can't get away with shoving amodel19 S&W down your pants
er, um,maybe some mobil 1 would help? On Feb 16, 2008 12:04 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> sure, lots to like, but can you carry it down your pants though? > > Not easily, there's not much room next to the ol' unit, you see. > > > Just don't carry the one model with the 8 3/8" barrel, you'll get a > > lot of > > funny looks. hee hee. > > I'm partial to the 10.5" pin gun, myself. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
Yes Gerry, one of my Great Grandfathers was an engineer, (driving them), and my other Great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, he (designed them). He was part of the team that designed the 6000 steam engines, used by Grand Trunk and Canadian National. I still have the original factory pics as they rolled off the line. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did someone in your family work on the railroad? > Gerry > --- > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ha ha ha! Oh, and I do have one too. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 16/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Just put some Mobil1 0W30 in it, and CHANGE THE FUSE! > >> > >> --R > >> > >> archer wrote: > >> > Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. > >> > I > >> > remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker > >> periodically > >> > to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 when he retired > >> from > >> > the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker said it would have > to > >> be > >> > disassembled so the dried oil could be cleaned out of the jewel > >> > bearings > >> and > >> > that it would then be good as new. He wanted a big price to do it, > so > >> > I > >> > declined. Watchmaker said such watchs were common and not worth a > >> > great > >> > deal as antiques. The case was gold plated and the movement was 21 > >> jewel > >> > IIRC. > >> > Gerry > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
> The carb air heat was to prevent icing. A butterfly valve in the snorkel to draw air across the exhaust manifold was also used, and would certainly help keep the carb from icing, especially as the valve wasn't 100% efficient. My Falcon has the heater core hose go through the carb mounting plate, that's got to be purely for ice prevention. It doesn't even have a snorkel. I don't think carbs nestled in the V of the V8 engines had too much of an icing problem, there was enough ambient heat to help prevent it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chicken wagonry
The right rear door check has been starting to bind, we've been avoiding that door so as not to make the situation worse. So today I opened it up. The replacement (used) check strap still looked OK, but the grease had dried out in the track and there was some corrosion starting up. I put it in the solvent tank while I had breakfast. I then took it apart and cleaned off all the grease and dirt, and found that one of the two large BB's was getting rough and corroded. I put it in the angle of one of the welding magnets and brought it to the wire wheel, and with some brushing and spinning I got it much smoother. I then sanded off the tracks in the solvent tank, dried everything off, and greased it all up. Getting it back together was (as always) a real joy. It didn't go too badly, I used a woodworking bar clamp to compress the BB's into the slider with it nearly in starting position on the track, and then used a heavy iron bar and the BFH to drive it into the track. I put it into the door and tried it out. Not as smooth as new but tolerable. I then reassembled the door, everything works fine now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
It seems than at Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:04:34 -0800, Peter wrote: > The carb air heat was to prevent icing. ??? No. It's to get the carburetor to "operating temperature" a quickly as possible to minimise the dreadful emissions at, and just after, startup. The "heat riser" valve is closed to force exhaust across the intake manifold. Once the intake is warm, it opens and lets the exhaust flow normally. I have driving more than 400,000 miles with small block Chevy's with the heat riser removed in climates from 110F (45C) to -35F (-38C). Carburetor has never frozen. The engine takes a bit longer to warm up, but the spark plugs on last a _lot_ longer! > I get a kick out of > the K&N crowd crowing about "cold air intakes" as if this were > something new. > > Peter But it is a good thing. Is there any car made since the early '80 that did _not_ have a hose/pipe to draw engine intake air from someplace other than behind the radiator? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
the oils now are synthetic On Feb 16, 2008 11:33 AM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't remember since it was years ago. Point was that it would just go > back > in storage and the oil would dry out again, I suppose. The weight of the > watch is remarkable. When my father worked on passenger runs and wore a > uniform, he would carry it in a "watch pocket" in the vest which was worn > under the jacket. When he worked on freight runs and wore work clothes, > he > would carry it in the usual pants watch pocket. > > Riding the steam trains in those days was a lot of fun for a kid, and a > railroaders family members could ride free all they wanted. > Gerry > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > how much was this big sum? > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 9:11 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. > I > >> remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker > >> periodically > >> to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 when he retired > from > >> the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker said it would have to > be > >> disassembled so the dried oil could be cleaned out of the jewel > bearings > >> and > >> that it would then be good as new. He wanted a big price to do it, so > I > >> declined.snip > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test
12 correct for me. Harry On Feb 16, 2008 10:32 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got an 80. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:04 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test > > I got 14 out of 16 right. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Try this aerial test > > > > www.guessthespot.com > > > > I missed one. > > > > RLE > > > > > > ** > > The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 > 7:08 PM > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
The carb air heat was to prevent icing. I get a kick out of the K&N crowd crowing about "cold air intakes" as if this were something new. Have a carb freeze solid on you one time and you find out you want that preheat, it gives you much better performance than sitting on the side of the road wating for the ice to clear out of the carb! The emissions systems were only complex in comparison to the "simple" carb and mechanical advance point ignition system. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes andVettes
The lousy performance and horrible gas milage of the early 70's cars was partially a result of nearly all the automotive companies bitter battle to avoid ANY regulations, and they got caught with no real engineered solution. Gotta remember Detroit was in coast mode back then -- they spent much more on fighting regulations than they did on improving their products (in the 70's, most US cars were using carburetors developed in the 30's and 50's -- hardly any changes) and GM in particular was using old, worn out machinery to make engines. The latter is the source of the "can't get it to idle smooth" Chevy V8 -- crankpins were up to 0.030" off center (in any direction), lifter bores were up to 10 degrees off vertical and up to -.0110" off center, rods were highly variable in length, etc -- resulting in engines with different valve and piston timing and compression in each cylinder. Cams were sloppy, too, but not usually so bad. Rebuild to spec (called "blueprinting" in the trade) and they turned out considerably more hp and ran much cleaner. Imagine that, having all the cylinders produce the same compression ratio, all the valve open the same amount with the same timing, and having the piston at TDC at the correct time, what an idea! I don't think GM ever put valve guides or seat into the 350 -- just drilled out the boss in the cast iron. My brother remembers "cc-ing" Chrysler Hemi heads -- you had to grind out the combustion chamber to make them all the same on racing engine, else they shake themselves to death. I certainly hope Chrysler fixed that in the current ressurection of the Hemi (that old 1951 design tarted up with EFI). Took a few years for everyone to get a system that worked fairly well. Chrysler was ahead of the game, simply because they didn't have the cash to fight California in the mid 60's are started work earilier (positive crankcase ventilation in about 1962, I think, EGR with fixed ports in the bottom of the intake in 1972 in CA, etc). Peter On Feb 16, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Tom Hargrave wrote: > There was very little in the way of "vacuum emissions crap" on > mid-70s cars > and what was installed was limited to the vacuum operated EGR valve > and > ignition timing. The hoses & temperature sensors were used to > disable the > EGR & timing modifications while the car was warming up & was > actually a > clever low tech solution. > > The EGR valve was & is still used to dump exhaust gas back into the > engine > to reduce peak cylinder temperatures, which reduces NO2 emissions. > > Mercedes used the same type systems in the 70s - so did everyone else. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rick Knoble > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:01 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes > andVettes > >> By the late 70's, everyone, including GM and Mercedes figured out >> how to >> make horsepower in a production environment again and performance >> started >> improving. In the late 80, everyone started making huge >> performance gains >> and everyone's been climbing since. > > Thanks in part to improved engine management through the use of > computer > controls. The vacuum emissions crap on mid-seventies domestic autos > was > horrific. > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: > 2/15/2008 > 7:08 PM > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas MercedesandVettes
> There was very little in the way of "vacuum emissions crap" on mid-70s cars > and what was installed was limited to the vacuum operated EGR valve and > ignition timing. The hoses & temperature sensors were used to disable the > EGR & timing modifications while the car was warming up & was actually a > clever low tech solution. > > The EGR valve was & is still used to dump exhaust gas back into the engine > to reduce peak cylinder temperatures, which reduces NO2 emissions. > > Mercedes used the same type systems in the 70s - so did everyone else. And warm air to the air filter housing and intake manifold heat and ... there was dozens of vacuum hoses running seemingly everywhere. Hoses that cracked...and leaked after 40 or 50 k miles, not like the hard lines of the 80's and newer. Perhaps these systems were quite simple, but at the time, my teenage mind was boggled by the apparent complexity of it all... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
Did someone in your family work on the railroad? Gerry --- - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ha ha ha! Oh, and I do have one too. > > Ed > 300E > > On 16/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Just put some Mobil1 0W30 in it, and CHANGE THE FUSE! >> >> --R >> >> archer wrote: >> > Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. >> > I >> > remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker >> periodically >> > to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 when he retired >> from >> > the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker said it would have to >> be >> > disassembled so the dried oil could be cleaned out of the jewel >> > bearings >> and >> > that it would then be good as new. He wanted a big price to do it, so >> > I >> > declined. Watchmaker said such watchs were common and not worth a >> > great >> > deal as antiques. The case was gold plated and the movement was 21 >> jewel >> > IIRC. >> > Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Not 240 OT Blacks Whites etc
Don't remember since it was years ago. Point was that it would just go back in storage and the oil would dry out again, I suppose. The weight of the watch is remarkable. When my father worked on passenger runs and wore a uniform, he would carry it in a "watch pocket" in the vest which was worn under the jacket. When he worked on freight runs and wore work clothes, he would carry it in the usual pants watch pocket. Riding the steam trains in those days was a lot of fun for a kid, and a railroaders family members could ride free all they wanted. Gerry - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > how much was this big sum? > > On Feb 15, 2008 9:11 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does anyone have an old railroad watch? I have my fathers; an Elgin. I >> remember him having to take it in to a "certified" watchmaker >> periodically >> to get its accuracy checked. It was running in 1939 when he retired from >> the railroad but it doesn't run now. Watchmaker said it would have to be >> disassembled so the dried oil could be cleaned out of the jewel bearings >> and >> that it would then be good as new. He wanted a big price to do it, so I >> declined.snip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test
I got an 80. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test I got 14 out of 16 right. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Try this aerial test > > www.guessthespot.com > > I missed one. > > RLE > > > ** > The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes andVettes
There was very little in the way of "vacuum emissions crap" on mid-70s cars and what was installed was limited to the vacuum operated EGR valve and ignition timing. The hoses & temperature sensors were used to disable the EGR & timing modifications while the car was warming up & was actually a clever low tech solution. The EGR valve was & is still used to dump exhaust gas back into the engine to reduce peak cylinder temperatures, which reduces NO2 emissions. Mercedes used the same type systems in the 70s - so did everyone else. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes andVettes > By the late 70's, everyone, including GM and Mercedes figured out how to > make horsepower in a production environment again and performance started > improving. In the late 80, everyone started making huge performance gains > and everyone's been climbing since. Thanks in part to improved engine management through the use of computer controls. The vacuum emissions crap on mid-seventies domestic autos was horrific. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1282 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 7:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerial view test
I got 14 out of 16 right. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Try this aerial test > > www.guessthespot.com > > I missed one. > > RLE > > > ** > The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars of the 70s - comparing gas GM to gas Mercedes and Vettes
> By the late 70's, everyone, including GM and Mercedes figured out how to > make horsepower in a production environment again and performance started > improving. In the late 80, everyone started making huge performance gains > and everyone's been climbing since. Thanks in part to improved engine management through the use of computer controls. The vacuum emissions crap on mid-seventies domestic autos was horrific. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
One click past off to the left is the right side, two clicks left is the left side. Been that way since at least the 60's. Benz doesn't change things much -- I got a kick out of a friend who had a W210 and complained that the keyswitch wasn't illuminated like it was in his Ford -- until he looked in my old '72 W108 and realized that Benz has put the keyswitch in exactly the same place relative to the steering wheel since the mid '50s! No need to light it up, if you drive a Benz they are all in the same place. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
> I thought the self diagnostic system checks all the circuits and only > illuminates when the headlight are turned on. Doesn't. The warning only lights when it's _trying_ to turn on any given light and it won't. (And the ignition is on.) There's a memory for the brake and turn signal lights, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football
Just as weird is the fact that Chelsea is one of the most expensive places to live in London and most of their fans are CHAVS. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
