Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
> Or maybe use oil lamps burning whale oil... Naw, that's a yellow > light too. Put in Aladdin kerosene mantle lamps. All the heat (and more) of an incandescent, with the lovely greenish color balance of an old-school fluorescent. And the thorium in the mantle is radioactive. About a 60W incand

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Fmiser
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > my point is that cf gives you more options. it uses less > > > energy and creates less heat. it's a pure winner to me. > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > > > And the mercury from poor disposal will find its way into > > our water. And unlike radioactive m

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'm building a 20x36 garage with 3 roll up doors and was considering 8 > 4' > sections of incandescent tubes on each side of the garage for a total > of 16. My 24x36 has 15 2-tube 96" HO fixtures in it. About 3kW of lights when they're all on. Two down each aisle (including sides, with anoth

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:21:02 -0500, Mitch wrote: > > I think I found the lights my friend uses. No wonder it's like > a sunny day at the beach, he's got over a kilowatt of > fluorescent in a two car garage. Just the center fixture alone > is 220W. WOW! That's a lot of light! It's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
>> It'll be cheaper to buy eggs than to buy commercial chicken >> feed, which is nutritionally balanced for layers. > > There was an article in Mother Earth News recently which found that > free range > or pastured hens (lots of protein in those bugs, and chickens provide > free bug > and grub co

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:08:17 -0500 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so, until then, i just shouldn't throw the bulbs in the river? Uh ... yeah ... Craig > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 "Gary Hur

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Loren Faeth
That won't stop albore and his wacko friends. They will just run around saying we caused the global freeze and that we must be taxed and regulated to death before we freeze to death! Bring on the global warming! I have had enough winter! This used to be the tropics. I'm ready for palm trees

[MBZ] WAY OT: One Hundred People

2008-02-25 Thread Loren Faeth
There is a great little book that has been out for years and years. It is called "How to lie with statistics." 99% of the time someone is putting statistics in your face they are trying to lie to you. And yes, I made up the 99%, but I still claim it is accurate, or at least as accurate as 9

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
so, until then, i just shouldn't throw the bulbs in the river? On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good.

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:55 -0500 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good. > > you want me to give up white light no heat for crappy yellow light? Not necessarily. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are just starting to be intr

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't know nothing at all about that stuff, but it doesn't sound good. you want me to give up white light no heat for crappy yellow light? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:14:25 -0500 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:14:25 -0500 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my point is that cf gives you more options. it uses less energy and > creates less heat. it's a pure winner to me. And the mercury from poor disposal will find its way into our water. And unlike radioactive materials,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:50:40 -0800 "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I watched a program on PBS that posited that global warming is being > counteracted by the amount of sun blocked by pollution in the > atmosphere. In another program I learned of the theory that the sun is > burning out

Re: [MBZ] 1974 mercedes benz motor home - diesel - 5 speed - $8500

2008-02-25 Thread archer
Here's info from the owner of the MB Motorhome on Craigslist: Gerry - Original Message - From: "alligator hyde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: RE: 1974 mercedes benz moto

Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi all, The final statement of the Snopes writeup perhaps is most interesting. "On the other hand, if this is the kind of material having a computer gives one access to, the inhabitants of our miniature world might opt to do without them." Now back to your regularly scheduled program..

Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-25 Thread Steve Bailey
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/populate.asp Claim: If we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people, that village would resemble one described in this piece. Status: Not quite Read the details if interested. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL P

Re: [MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread Trampas
Well I called the stealership and they told me there was no recall... They did tell me that my ignition switch recall was not done which was a recall in 1995, thus I wondered why they could not tell me about the 1991 one. Basically I am the type of person who hates idiots, thus I repair my own

Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-25 Thread Rick Knoble
> Comment? Makes me damn happy about who, what and where I am. Caveats, YMMV My 2ยข Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Un

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2008-02-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices Register online for the April EIA 2008 Energy Conference: 30 Years of En

[MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-25 Thread archer
If we could shrink the Earth's population to a Village of precisely 100 people, with all the existing human ratios remaining the same, the Village would look like something like the following : There would be: 57 Asians 21 Europeans 14 from the Western Hemisphere, both north and south 8 Africans

Re: [MBZ] SLC pics are up

2008-02-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes they are for sale jgiels wrote: > Kaleb are you selling the slc's? I am really thinking of collecting one. > Though my better half has not been made aware of this idea!. > > I like the 380 for the engine being smaller though with the timing chain > problems and it needing to be smogged here

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
27 is very optimistic Donald Snook wrote: > What kind of mileage do the 126 300SD 's really get. The one in phoenix says > 27 mpg. I drive pretty hard and my mileage always seems a little worse than > most. > > Can they really get close to 30? > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ >

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
"R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When it is minus 35 it will cool off pretty fast. > > The newspaper folks did timed experiments and found that most often > it was faster to go through the drive through rather than to go > inside. Not usually much difference but usually a bit faster to

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
The SDs lister hasn't returned my call yet. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL 300SD Bob R. wrote: "Maybe this would be better:

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm jealous. I've long ago quit (gave-up) trying to light my > garage. Low ceiling and sub zero temps are my problem. Regular incandescents work fine in the cold -- I have 6 100 W "bare" bulbs in my garage ceiling, and it's plenty bright, though I could use 150 or ev

Re: [MBZ] Holy COW!

2008-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't buy it! It's got nasty GREEN antifreeze! That, and the amount of armor-all applied under the hood makes me think something is being covered up. Even with 33K miles, if that's authentic, 18 grand is WAY too much for a 25 year old car. In fact, at that

[MBZ] If that $300 car isn't available........

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Luther
I refuse to vote for someone who has a "flip-values" record, like our current president. Campaign's and practice are rarely the same, and I refuse to place my trust (or vote) in a lying politician. As for the global warming farce I'll believe it when they begin to use data that comes from m

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Peter Frederick
My brother gets 26-28 in his 87. Less if you drive really hard, but city driving doesn't drop the milage with diesels as much as it does with gassers. I'd guess a bit less with the 617 engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Luther
My '83 was usually above 25 and I saw it as high as 29. Most of it's life with me was spent with veg oil mix, so I didn't check mileage except to know that I was making more than 100mpg on diesel :) Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:37:59 -0600, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What kind

Re: [MBZ] SLC pics are up

2008-02-25 Thread jgiels
Kaleb are you selling the slc's? I am really thinking of collecting one. Though my better half has not been made aware of this idea!. I like the 380 for the engine being smaller though with the timing chain problems and it needing to be smogged here in CA. I am leaning towards the 75 450sl. Do

Re: [MBZ] Beautiful rodbender

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther wrote: > > I think that's too new for a rodbender One definition of rodbender is 1990's S-class USA market diesel. Another definition is 3.5L OM603 sold in USA. They were no longer imported by the time the design was fixed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Holy COW!

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
Well, unfortunately so does my car but I now have some jugs of the Zerex Z-05 and as soon as the weather warms up a bit I'm going to fix that. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:46 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
When it is minus 35 it will cool off pretty fast. The newspaper folks did timed experiments and found that most often it was faster to go through the drive through rather than to go inside. Not usually much difference but usually a bit faster to stay in the car. I really don't like drive throug

Re: [MBZ] Beautiful rodbender

2008-02-25 Thread Luther
I think that's too new for a rodbender Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:48:32 -0600, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice car - no affiliation > > http://tinyurl.com/23t67o > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) he

Re: [MBZ] Holy COW!

2008-02-25 Thread Luther
Don't buy it! It's got nasty GREEN antifreeze! Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:42:32 -0600, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW! Look at this car. 33K miles. Price is too high, but man this is a nice > car. > > http://tinyurl.com/2dbjqw > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ >

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-25 Thread Luther
absolutely. Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:11:50 -0600, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Luther, > So are you saying year and badge should be the primary sort? I think > you're right though - people who are new to MBs will know little of engine > #s and even chassis' numbers - and old

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Kevin Kraly
My '83 300SD will get near 30MPG on the highway at 55-60MPH and around 27MPG at near 70MPH. Any faster than that and it starts costing a lot more money (when you get caught, that is). I would guess that mine would get MPG somewhere in the mid 20's around 80MPH. My AC compressor is dead (has b

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I love watching the bleary eye'd masses sitting in the drive through at Dunkin Donuts. I can run in, get a sandwich and a coffee and be out before they get through their line. How much is your car really going to cool off during your run into McDonalds? I can't stand the drive through, I feel

[MBZ] OT - Chickens

2008-02-25 Thread wilton strickland
Free-roaming ducks we had on the farm 65-70 years ago produced VERY rich eggs. I gathered them for Mama to make cakes and pies. BTW, 'had to be very careful walking in the yard, too, especially barefooted. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread George Larribeau
I get a long term avarge of 23.8 or so (10K mile interval), log books before odometer broke. Now that odometer has been repaired I will see if is has changed ( last 2 tanks were data points that were in the region but don't have major data yet.) Most of the driving is on a 'road to Hell' here in

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Getting in at an odd hour helps too. I used to go to Halifax alot and would get in at 9pm. Order an super econobox and come out with a Nissan Altima or Mazda 6. When I went to Toronto I needed to be there around lunch, got the Nissan Versa which wasn't a bad car but the Mazda 6 was alot better.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-25 Thread Curt Raymond
This year I'm going to see if I can do enough corporate travel to pay for a new TV off the points on my cc. I sometimes carry a small balance on my card from December into January but other than that I pay it off every month. I'm eligable for $200 in Amazon gift cards right now... Got a trip t

Re: [MBZ] How much do I love my car?

2008-02-25 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote: > Oh I've washed it twice... Changed the transmission fluid yet? ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] How much do I love my car?

2008-02-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I love my car, I spent 55 miles in it getting to work. In about 15 minutes I'll go another 55 miles home. I am completely confident that it'll get me there. Tomorrow its going to snow, I'm completely confident that it'll get me back here pretty much no matter how bad the weather is. I'm also co

Re: [MBZ] "new" 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread LWB250
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That car, in front of that house, was advertised at > least two years ago. > Something funny here. > > RLE Like the seller is on crack? It is a nice car, but the price! Oy gevalt! Dan ___

Re: [MBZ] "new" 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread Frederick W Moir
Well Maintained with green antifreeze? Fred Moir Lynn MA Where no cars have green A/F At 04:40 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: > > < this is a nice car. > >http://tinyurl.com/2dbjqw>> > >That car, in front of that house, was advertised at least two years ago. >Something funny here. >RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] "new" 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
> < nice car. > > http://tinyurl.com/2dbjqw>> > That car, in front of that house, was advertised at least two years ago. Something funny here. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rach

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread E M
I pick up at airports, but reserve from my point of departure. I always seem to get a much better deal when booking from home. Many say reserve the cheapest car, as they always rent out fast, and then the agency will often upgrade for free. I don't do it, for fear I'll get stuck driving what I d

Re: [MBZ] Credit cards vs...

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
<<20 $2 coffees don't add up to much..>> Excellent math. Pretty hard to find a latte out my way for less than three bucks and I always pay cash. Most everything over 15 bucks goes on the Visa card. All gas is charged. Groceries cash or check. Online purchases on Visa, naturally. Clothing, Visa.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: How old is Grandpa???

2008-02-25 Thread archer
There was frozen food (Birdseye only), and A/C (in movies and downtown stores) during the 1930s. A limited selection of frozen food was in small open top freezers in most of the small neighborhood groceries where most people bought their food back then. Not many people could afford it. This

Re: [MBZ] How much do I love my car?

2008-02-25 Thread Hendrik & Fay
There are 100's of products out there, I tried this stuff http://www.meguiars.com.au/waterless.htm and it works pretty well, including being an excellent window cleaner. Basically does the whole of the outside of the car but it is pretty pricey if bought in spray packs. However a 2 liter refill

Re: [MBZ] grammer

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
you gotta spell it out for some people On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < > Wilton>> > > My very point. > > RLE > > > > > ** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > ( > http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rache

Re: [MBZ] grammer

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
<> My very point. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new part

Re: [MBZ] ABS sensor question

2008-02-25 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah I might have to bite the bullet and crawl under there to see which way the line goes. First time I saw the rear ABS sensor I thought it was an auto oil level checker for the diff and went "oooh aren't those little elves clever" Hendrik slowly getting the bugs out of the beast [EMAIL PROTE

[MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread Donald Snook
Trampas wrote: "I have a 1989 F250 that started pumping gas out of front fuel tank, as quick look on line indicates that there is a recall on the fuel selector valve. So I called Ford to see if recall has been done, they tell me that because the vehicle is 10 years old they can not tell me if t

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread John Robbins
R A Bennell wrote: > One is that a cold car that has just been started in a cold climate > like ours will probably produce less pollutants if kept running for a > few minutes than it will if stopped and re-started. In warmer > weather or once the car is fully warmed up, then it may be less > poll

Re: [MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread Loren Faeth
And which automaker has even recently honored a recall for Diesel trap oxidizers, even if they are 20 years old? At 02:56 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: >I had the same problem (sort of) with Toyota. If done within a >certain time frame they would honor a fix on the >climate control on our Avalon whic

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
Kyoto just didn't gather much steam. It has been around but not like the issue seems to have gained momentum in the past short while. Our daily paper seems to have stuff everyday now and you can't talk to neighbors without them going on about things that they don't think are environmentally sound

Re: [MBZ] Memory not

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
i like to visit crash sites pretending to be an attorney. is that close enough? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < in > that same economy come payday.>> > > Your memory has failed you. Again. Remember to wear a hat when out in the > hot > summer sun. Write yourself a

Re: [MBZ] Grammer

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
<> Target of opportunity. Gotta be quick. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] Memory not

2008-02-25 Thread RELNGSON
<> Your memory has failed you. Again. Remember to wear a hat when out in the hot summer sun. Write yourself a note. Attorney? Oh my goodness. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-

Re: [MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Trampas wrote: > I have a 1989 F250 that started pumping gas out of front fuel tank, as quick > look on line indicates that there is a recall on the fuel selector valve. So > I called Ford to see if recall has been done, they tell me that because the > vehicle is 10 years old they can not tell m

Re: [MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
I had the same problem (sort of) with Toyota. If done within a certain time frame they would honor a fix on the climate control on our Avalon which they acknowledge is a factory defect. Since the car is too old, they won't and I had to pay for the parts. Annoying since they know full well it was

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
John M McIntosh wrote: > > T12 tsk, should consider T8 1" x 8' bulbs scare me. 1x48" would be OK, but I'm already afraid of breakage when I have to handle a 96" T12. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.c

[MBZ] Ford Truck Recalls

2008-02-25 Thread Trampas
I have a 1989 F250 that started pumping gas out of front fuel tank, as quick look on line indicates that there is a recall on the fuel selector valve. So I called Ford to see if recall has been done, they tell me that because the vehicle is 10 years old they can not tell me if the recall was done o

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > > You also have to remember that it just was not an important topic until a > year or two ago. Kyoto was over ten years ago, and it was certainly a topic in USA before the 2000 elections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol ___ h

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
Ah, so now the secret is out. You are the one that is causing the decline of America. Don't you know that consumer spending is down and people are losing jobs? Got to do your bit to keep the country moving you know. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

[MBZ] 84 300SD Mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Dan Weeks
I have an '82 300SD with 304k miles. At 75 mph, I average 27 mpg. 25 in town. 23.5 with two boats on the roof rack, heading into a stiff westerly at 75. I am no feather-foot, either. The previous owner reported getting as high as 32 during the 55 mph speed limit days. 27 is bang on, no boas

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread John M McIntosh
T12 tsk, should consider T8 Which is what your government demands... http://www.va.gov/facmgt/consulting/t8lamps.asp On Feb 25, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > I think I found the lights my friend uses. No wonder it's like a > sunny day > at the beach, he's got over a kilowatt of fl

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
So to start with, what is a 220? My knowledge of #'s is limited to 115 and 123. I do know that friends of ours who have an 01 E430 4Matic have had rust repairs to the doors courtesy of MB. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > The ones you posted from penfed... are they available to people outside > of that credit union? Nope. You'll have to do what I did, join National Military Family Association for $20, then you qualify for penfed membership. Don't have to renew NMFA once you are in the CU. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
I think I found the lights my friend uses. No wonder it's like a sunny day at the beach, he's got over a kilowatt of fluorescent in a two car garage. Just the center fixture alone is 220W. 96" T12 high output, 110W per bulb, electronic ballast, starts at -20F, $104 for a two light fixture at Mick

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
You also have to remember that it just was not an important topic until a year or two ago. People like Gore just want to profit from the current trends. They don't want to try to create a trend because it might not work and would then make them look stupid. They just ride the wave of whatever is

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
did you rent at an airport? the only place i ever rent a car is at an airport and generally through hertz or avis. always rent a ford taurus. generally leave with a lincoln town car free or for very slight extra charge. i find small airports easier to work than large on this angle. On Mon, Fe

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-25 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: > John Robbins wrote: >> I'm very happy that all the fast food places, etc take credit cards. > > And you were recently elgible for the students-only Citibank MTVu card. > Got one? 5% rebates on books and fast food. Nope, I really really wish I could find a good no gimmick cas

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
> In my very limited experience the electronic ballasts seem to be worth > the extra cost. Quick quiet startup + lower energy usage. Sounds good > to me! Very good point. Much of the improvment may have been fron replacing 1960s ballasts with 1990s electronics, rather than from replacing 24 stan

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread PM7088
I'm jealous. I've long ago quit (gave-up) trying to light my garage. Low ceiling and sub zero temps are my problem. Hay Honey, Look, a nice 2 bedroom "Fixer Upper" with and 8 car barn. Maybe we should bye it. "Keep Driving", she said Pete -- Original message --

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: > A friend of mine took down the generic 30 year old 4' lamps in his garage > and put in some high output 8' lamps that were supposed to work well in > cold weather. I forget the wattage, he put five two bulb lights up on > three circuits. When you turn them all on, it's daylight

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > The only two persons who actually HAVE make a mockery of the US > Consistutition are currently in the White House as loyal members of the > Republican party. If you're into conspiracy theories, there are some who predict we've had our last general elections for a w

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Now is that true of eggs at $.69 like they have been for so many years? Or is that true of eggs at $3.29 - $4.00 like the are now? And what in the world has happened to cause eggs to jump 4 - 5 times in price recently? Brian Jim wrote:It'll be cheaper to buy eggs than to buy commercial chicken f

Re: [MBZ] Holy COW!

2008-02-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Yes, indeedy, although I do so detest shiny tires. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW! Look at this car. 33K miles. Price is too high, but man this is a > nice car. > > http://tinyurl.com/2dbjqw > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > _

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
The only two persons who actually HAVE make a mockery of the US Consistutition are currently in the White House as loyal members of the Republican party. Barring a manufactured crisis, seres of unfortunate "accidents", or a coup, neither will be on any ballot next November on in the WH after Jan.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I don't get it. How is $.19/dozen more expensive than buying eggs from the store? Local egg prices generally start at $2.00/dozen and head on up toward $5, depending on whether the hens are given their shiatsu massages daily or weekly. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Jeff Zedic
Let's see nowthat works out to four dollars per year per unit ...does > that sound expensive? You get what you pay for. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PRO

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread Fmiser
> > "Maybe this would be better: > > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/580368837.html " > > Wonder how long it would take to drive back from Phoenix? Two days, unless you want to drive really hard - or fast. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: garage lighting

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > Since we're talking about lights - I'll be buying some fixtures I'll likely > be stuck with for 15-20 years so I want to buy something I;ll be happy with. > I'm building a 20x36 garage with 3 roll up doors and was considering 8 4' > sections of incandescent tubes on each side of t

[MBZ] Beautiful rodbender

2008-02-25 Thread Donald Snook
Nice car - no affiliation http://tinyurl.com/23t67o Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change deliv

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread LarryT
Since we're talking about lights - I'll be buying some fixtures I'll likely be stuck with for 15-20 years so I want to buy something I;ll be happy with. I'm building a 20x36 garage with 3 roll up doors and was considering 8 4' sections of incandescent tubes on each side of the garage for a total

[MBZ] Holy COW!

2008-02-25 Thread Donald Snook
WOW! Look at this car. 33K miles. Price is too high, but man this is a nice car. http://tinyurl.com/2dbjqw Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used part

[MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Donald Snook
What kind of mileage do the 126 300SD 's really get. The one in phoenix says 27 mpg. I drive pretty hard and my mileage always seems a little worse than most. Can they really get close to 30? Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okieben

[MBZ] PHX CL 300SD

2008-02-25 Thread Donald Snook
Bob R. wrote: "Maybe this would be better: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/580368837.html " WOW! That looks like a nice car! I wonder what the interior looks like. LOW Miles. Somebody should buy it, soon! I was just telling my wife, I wanted to sell her explorer so, I could get another Me

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Luther, > So are you saying year and badge should be the primary sort? I think > you're right though - people who are new to MBs will know little of engine > #s and even chassis' numbers - and old hands will probably have participated > in this lis

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: > I may have to break down and get a credit cardespecially if we go to > Japan. Last I knew, Crapital One (with the barbarian & David Spade commercials) had the smallest markup on foreign exchange rates. Many of the biggies will nick you for 3% on foreign purchases.

Re: [MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement

2008-02-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:29:08 -0500 "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hello list- > > > > Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: > > > > The new modulator requires use of an "updated" pin (p/n 126 277 93 > > 75) which I got. Question is this: The mo

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
I don't have a credit card. Renting a car is a pain but certain places will allow the use of a debit cardbut they charge like $400 then credit what you don't spend. I may have to break down and get a credit cardespecially if we go to Japan. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
you go try it at one of the big agencies at the airport and see how it goes. renting a car is the only reason i still desire to have a credit card. i only rent one about once a year, but i still need a proper credit card to do it On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Theres a guy along my commute that has a 300GD. I've seen it driving but > never stopped. > I'd surely love to have one of those but not for what I've seen that people > want for them. > Get one on ebay.de and have i

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-25 Thread Gary Hurst
the point is that everyone now can get whatever they like. I like between the "full spectrum" bulbs and super ice blue. i get happy just looking at it in teh same way that yellow warm made me sad. i've even [put in some blue and UV black lights. they make me happy as well. do i claim any of thi

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-25 Thread LarryT
Hi Luther, So are you saying year and badge should be the primary sort? I think you're right though - people who are new to MBs will know little of engine #s and even chassis' numbers - and old hands will probably have participated in this list long enough to have a fair idea of potential p

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