Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> No, white LEDs have three diodes, one red, one green, and one blue. > To bombard a phosphor, you need UV light and LEDs don't make that. I believe you're behind the times. For full-color LED displays they use the triad, but white-only uses a phosphor. And as such, those LED's have an even more

Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible

2008-02-26 Thread Fmiser
> I have attached a spreadsheet I just built to play with it. > *grin* (I'm trying to avoid doing things I must do) > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: aerodynamics+fuel.ods > Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet > Size: 171

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> I looked at some of the white LEDS available right now and, aside from > the > longevity, don't see the benefit? The power consumption is not that > much > less for the light output. I believe fluorescents are still king of light/watt. The LED guys still aren't much for factoring in their nar

Re: [MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Call out the hazmat team, turn your house into a Superfund site, get millions of gummint funding to clean it up, then sue everyone in sight for millions for the health damages. Lots of opportunities for Algore and Johnny Edwards on the front and back ends. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: > http://

Re: [MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Rod broke off at big end, so no block hole? Heinous blowby on a 617 causes the engine to shut off. (Back-pressuring the vacuum shutoff diaphragm, if I recall.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.co

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carbide Cannons and exploding Oldsmobiles

2008-02-26 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 2/26/2008 5:07:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some genius was going to detonate a huge acetylene balloon at a Super Bowl party this year, but it spontaneously combusted in the car on the way there: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/6790966

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:16:13 -0600 Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > White LEDs use the same concept as florescent lamps. That is, > bombard phosphors with energy and they will release light. An > LED does it without glass tubes or mercury vapor. No, white LEDs have three diodes, one red, one g

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:24:56 -0600, Jeff wrote: > I looked at some of the white LEDS available right now and, > aside from the > longevity, don't see the benefit? The power consumption is > not that much less for the light output. > > Am I wrong? > > Is it still too early or was it

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:38:41 -0600, OK wrote: > Our government only works with an educated, informed, and > participating electorate. That's why it's so screwed up now - > we have none of the above. And "educated" does _not_ mean holding a college degree. -- Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible

2008-02-26 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:13:19 -0500, Allan wrote: > OK, there's a finite amount of energy in a gallon of fuel. > Assuming perfect extraction of that energy (which is > impossible), and a typical 3000 lb vehicle at 70 MPH on flat > ground what is the theoretical maximum MPG you could g

[MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps

2008-02-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/26/what_to_do_when_compact_fluorescents_crack/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:36 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Be careful about used fluorescent fixtures -- some of them run at > > weird voltages in commercial settings. > > Mine had 377V ballasts, which is why new 120V ballasts came > with them. (That is the wye connection volta

Re: [MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Harry Watkins
Check the exhaust for kinks. The first trailer I ever pulled had my 1950 Buick held below 40 MPH with a 1200 mile trip in front of me. I was thinking that pulling a small trailer sucks. When I stopped for the night, I noticed the tail pipe at a different angle. It was kinked so I tore the end of

Re: [MBZ] What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-26 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I am pretty sure I saw that crash on youtube a while back. The design philosophy of the autobahn sort of runs parallel with the MB design philosophy, build it right and then you only have to maintain it. That's the problem I have now, my 300TE yearns for the autobahn and every time I put my foot

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Harry Watkins
Jeff, I think its to early, there are plenty on the market, but the good stuff will show up in a couple of years. Then it will take quite a while for the price to drop. http://www.llfinc.com have some expensive fixtures on the market for new construction. Harry On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:24 PM,

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Rich, Go for it and enjoy!!.. I'm not one of "the neo-hippes" that pay premium dinero... for premium stuff...! Just wonderin' about all the "huppum' that gets sprayed around when "them guts' gets "throwed aroud" If I had my choice I'd pick an "elk/deer/whatever" that was broug

[MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk

2008-02-26 Thread Kevin Slater
So here is what we have for the puzzler. 1979 240D with at least 165,000 miles on it. Loud rapping / tapping noise from the engine, sounding like it's coming from only 1 of the 4 cylinders. Engine output power about normal even with the noise. Valves recently adjusted and then re-adjusted. Oil was

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
No man, them things was ORGANIC chickens, free-range, eating all that good stuff out there in nature. No way they would be full of something that sounds so nasty. They sell them at Whole Foods for a lot more than your regular bird, and the neo-hippies (at least the ones that still eat them) p

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
I looked at some of the white LEDS available right now and, aside from the > longevity, don't see the benefit? The power consumption is not that much > less for the light output. Am I wrong? Is it still too early or was it the Chinese manufacturer's site I went to was shit? Zedic _

Re: [MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Kevin Slater
Kaleb, I hadn't thought about the exhaust moving around. That might explain why the rapping got louder - maybe the pipe near the header ruptured and then I'm able to hear the noise from the engine more than before. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > T

Re: [MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
One time I went and looked at this beautiful V12 Jag sedan that had been hit such that the driveshaft impacted upon the rear of the engine, or vice versa. Anyway the guy was selling it cheap, thinking that maybe the motor had been damaged, though he was not sure. I passed on it as I had no pl

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Rich, There's lots of "huppum" that's inside that chicken or deer or other roadkill that you don't want in your dinner.. That word "huppum" was coined by my SIL: meaning "you don't wanna' know" Just my opinion. YMMV Chuck Phoenix AZ ___

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Frederick
It's an insulated cast iron exhaust manifold. If the trap had not been installed, the turbo would have been directly connected to the manifold instead of that odd back to front thing. However, it's vastly easier to just bolt in a pipe than to replace the manifold setup. Peter _

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know, I figure whacking the thing with a car or a 2x4 is not a lot different, and if I saw it running just before its demise, I know it's fresh. Either me or some guest worker... --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > <> > > I don't find roadkill all that appealing, somehow. > > RLE > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
Our government only works with an educated, informed, and participating electorate. That's why it's so screwed up now - we have none of the above. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300S

Re: [MBZ] Arguments

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
The one thing I remember from orientation when I was psych aide at the local mental hospital (the only difference between the patients and the staff is who has the keys) was "Don't argue with the patients". I seem to forget that rule here occasionally. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM, <[EMAIL PR

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Harry Watkins
My plan for shop/garage/basement lighting is incandescent bulbs throughout, with a pull chain on each one. Wattage will vary depending on why the light is needed in particular areas. I expect to replace them with LED white lights some time in the future when the next upgrades hits the market. I

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
The signing statements, are not law, nor choosing which to execute, but they are being used to tell the executive branch how to execute it - which has been to effectively ignore or grossly distort the law under Bush, and probably Clinton, though I haven't looked into his use of them - it's too late

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
Same here. > > A few years ago I would have said that GWB has done more to destroy > freedom in this country than any single man since Abraham Lincoln. Now > I'd rank him above Abe. > > Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Ben

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: One Hundred People

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
Yup - 47% of all statistics are made up on the spot. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:30 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't that what they say - there are lies, dam*ed lies and statistics in that > order > > Randy > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, da

Re: [MBZ] dinner?

2008-02-26 Thread RELNGSON
<> I don't find roadkill all that appealing, somehow. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
We kept "Easter Ducks" for years when the kids were little. The flock got up to 8 at one time, but was usually was 4. We'd let a few sit on nests, so ended up with four or five generations. You had to let the eggs age a week or two before they worked well for baking, and no one liked the taste othe

Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage

2008-02-26 Thread OK Don
What's the chain stretch? I don't know that it can make that much of a difference, but it will make some if it's near the limit. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> Does legislation not go from the House to the Senate for approval? Legislation can be originated in either the House of Representatives or the Senate. Voted and passed by the entire body, then to the other house to be approved or amended. Bounces back and forth until approved unchanged by both

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> Have you ever seen the old lamps used by miners? They use - forgive me > if my chemistry is wrong here - carbide and water. Yep, calcium carbide in water releases acetylene. A solventy-smelling gas that burns sootily in air, and extremely hotly in oxygen. It has a double-carbon bond to break,

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> The turnsignals in my 78 240D are only working when they feel like it. Cycle the hazard switch a bunch. It gets dirty. All flashing is done by a single flasher whose output is routed both by this switch and the stalk switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> Be careful about used fluorescent fixtures -- some of them run at weird > voltages in commercial settings. Mine had 377V ballasts, which is why new 120V ballasts came with them. (That is the wye connection voltage of a 480V three-phase delta power source.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> "Fourth, get rid of the Presidential Veto..that is not democracy." The veto is important, it is the means by which the chief executive is supposed to push back legislation that is somehow unenforceable. It, like everything else in the originally rather well-designed system, is now being abused h

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> If you get a minute, could you draw a sketch showing the positions? 36' +-+ | = = = | <-- Circuit 2 | | | || || || || || || || | | || || || || || || || | 24' |Bay1Bay2 Bay3|

Re: [MBZ] Arguments

2008-02-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey, Lately I have most enjoyed the Chicken thread.. YMMV, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > < facts against > someone who feels they are arguing from the moral high ground? It's > usually > true.>> > > Very much like most of the "discussions" on this l

Re: [MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The rapping I figured is maybe exhaust got moved in the wreck and is banging around Mitch Haley wrote: > Moving the engine or bending the throttle linkage could cost some power, > but wouldn't stop the engine. > If there's something supposed to shut the fuel off in case of rollover, > I suppose

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carbide Cannons and exploding Oldsmobiles

2008-02-26 Thread Gary Hurst
prison for the stupid and cash and prizes for criminal illegals. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the spirit of laying off the politics and politicians, let's talk > about Calcium Carbide, Acetylene, and things that go boom. > > It turns out you can sti

Re: [MBZ] Arguments

2008-02-26 Thread RELNGSON
<> Very much like most of the "discussions" on this list. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __

Re: [MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Moving the engine or bending the throttle linkage could cost some power, but wouldn't stop the engine. If there's something supposed to shut the fuel off in case of rollover, I suppose it's possible that got tripped, or you may have pinched a fuel line near the back of the car. If you ruptured a

Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible

2008-02-26 Thread Gary Hurst
keely motor? On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, there's a finite amount of energy in a gallon of fuel. Assuming > perfect extraction of that energy (which is impossible), and a typical > 3000 lb vehicle at 70 MPH on flat ground what is the theoretical

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
Thanks for all the efforts Larry. So it's not much different from the British Parliamentary system except for the Presidential power to veto. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts em

[MBZ] Did a rear end collision kill a 240D motor?

2008-02-26 Thread Kevin Slater
Last weekend while I was driving in our 1979 240D I was hit from behind by someone trying to make it through a signal that was turning red. The collision wasn't all that bad. The offending vehicle was a 2002 Escalade and it pushed in the trunk sheet metal to the right of the license plate and it kn

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread Timothy Robinson
When my turn signals get funky I just flash the hazard switch (like at that moment when I'm signaling...it's become a quick habit) and they begin to work immediately. Only happens once every few weeks. I suppose I should clean or replace that switch. > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rep

Re: [MBZ] flirting with BMW spark ignition...suggestions on models?

2008-02-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not 100%, but think the i is injected, s sport, and x was all wheel drive. Right. Except for "e" which meant injected as well, but also "economy" (lower revs, less HP, less fun). > I think the sports, was a package that could be

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carbide Cannons and exploding Oldsmobiles

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
"Hey y'all! Ho mah beer and watchiss!" Dumbass, hydrogen is a lot more fun and easier to generate on-site, and makes a good boom too. I am guessing acetylene is lots heavier than air, so the balloon is not going to float up, but rather stay in your lap when you let it go, leading to the mayhe

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
Thx Alex! I understand. ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Alex Ch

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
Good idea Jeff. IMO, I'd like to see us return to closer adherence to the Constitution. I doubt we could ever go to pure constitutional governing after getting so deep into the social programs we have now. To turn the $$ spigot off would cause rioting and widespread death. The original

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!

2008-02-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw an article once where the Chevy guys were trying, > pre-Duramax, to prove that their trucks could be just as strong as the > Cummins/Powerstroke units. They put low compression pistons in it, raised > the boost and

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That pic shows the replacement "log", which was installed post-trap recall. > > To clarify, the part running parallel to the crank, on the air filter side of the engine, between the valve cover and the passenger-side inner fi

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread John M McIntosh
On Feb 26, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Jeff Zedic wrote: > Ok, so here's a loud-mouthed foreigner spouting off of your system of > government. I'd like to here what the Americans on the list would > like to > fix in their system. I'm sure all the canadians on the list would like to see the americans j

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > > Wonder if Bullydog or Gale Banks make chips or IPs and big turbos and > big exhausts for those things. Wonder if a 6.5 turbo would drop into that car. Lots of go-fast goodies for those engines. I saw an article once where the Chevy guys were trying, pre-Duramax, to prove t

[MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible

2008-02-26 Thread Allan Streib
OK, there's a finite amount of energy in a gallon of fuel. Assuming perfect extraction of that energy (which is impossible), and a typical 3000 lb vehicle at 70 MPH on flat ground what is the theoretical maximum MPG you could get? I think these claims of hundreds of MPG are either using cars made

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
I don't see anything in the sysyem to fix. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 2/26/08 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our Political System Ok, so here's a loud-mouthed foreigner spouting off of your system o

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Allan Streib
John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Allan Streib wrote: >> OTOH quite often leglislative bills are loaded up with stuff >> irrelevant to the main subject of the bill, often this is pork to >> get support of various representatives -- the line item veto would >> allow the President to weed t

[MBZ] OT: Carbide Cannons and exploding Oldsmobiles

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
In the spirit of laying off the politics and politicians, let's talk about Calcium Carbide, Acetylene, and things that go boom. It turns out you can still buy a cast iron Big Bang Cannon, but it costs $59.99, when the 1929 original probably cost 59 cents. http://www.hobbysurplus.com/bigbangcanno

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Wonder if Bullydog or Gale Banks make chips or IPs and big turbos and big exhausts for those things. I could see a big ol Caddy sedan with about 700 ftlb and 500hp, work on the suspension a bit then go after Porsches and Vettes and whatnot. --R Donald Snook wrote: > Here's a beast of a car. N

[MBZ] Sorta OT: Green cars

2008-02-26 Thread Loren Faeth
Bill A. who is a lurker here, sent me this link. Benz content: find the 201 Diesel? http://jalopnik.com/359865/take-that-prius-here-are-some-extreme-green-cars These are cars for the real greenie weenies or for those who want to poke fun at em. Loren A fleet o "green" Benzes, but none of e

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: > OTOH quite often leglislative bills are loaded up with stuff > irrelevant to the main subject of the bill, often this is pork to get > support of various representatives -- the line item veto would allow > the President to weed these out. I agree that there is a lot of 'pork'

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread Loren Faeth
ble >Url : >http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080226/6dee8196/attachment.jpg > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PR

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
Hi Jeff, Maybe this will help - The System of Checks & Balances works this way IIRC - Legislation originates in the House after being offered by a house member but before it's voted on it can be sent to committee for "work" - it can stay in committee for an indeterminate time but hopefully (mayb

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Allan Streib
John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not as up on my govt. as I should be, but doesn't congress have the > ability to overrule a presidential veto if they reach a certain > majority? There would have to be a corresponding check and balance for > the line item veto. A line item veto m

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread jgiels
yep I think it does. Douglas - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem > In my original post I said <> > > What good would it do to play with the hazard swi

Re: [MBZ] ABS sensor question

2008-02-26 Thread Hendrik & Fay
It seems I might have fixed my ABS by cleaning the sensors, testing them revealed that their resistance is within spec and the turning test showed that the front ones are good but the rear was a little high. The rear sensor connection is in the same place as the pump for the central locking syst

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: > 2. Bill Clinton was a worse offender (do you advocate that he should be > impeached and hung from the neck) Hell yes. But not for that reason. Same for Bush. Everybody who ever made a career of violating the Constitution after swearing an oath to uphold it should be tried

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > What good would it do to play with the hazard switch? The hazard flashers depend on current flowing through the switch when it's turned on. The turn signals depend on it being turned off, which is another set of contacts (double throw switch). _

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
So what was the result for Clinton though? Nothing seemed to really happen to him by being impeachedseemed pretty pointless? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PRO

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
Ok, so here's a loud-mouthed foreigner spouting off of your system of government. I'd like to here what the Americans on the list would like to fix in their system. No, right or left rants, but what do you guys see as a problem(s) that can be fixed with common sense? This could be a very interest

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
In my original post I said <> What good would it do to play with the hazard switch? Does the emergency flasher and turn signal flasher use the same flasher? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PO

Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 06:26:32PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote: > > > We can also impeach our leaders. > > > Ok, but didn't they impeach Clinton? Andrew Jackson? Thomas Jefferson? > Nixon?? It seems pretty toothless and as Pete said, it takes a long time and > a lot of resources.. Clinton and Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
The check should be that bastion of "sober, second thought" otherwise known as the Senate. I guess I really don't understand how your system works. (seems very foreign and suspicious to me) ;-) One man with so much power is scary...especially when it's certain nameless crayon eaters. Does legisl

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Zedic
> > > > > We can also impeach our leaders. > > > Ok, but didn't they impeach Clinton? Andrew Jackson? Thomas Jefferson? Nixon?? It seems pretty toothless and as Pete said, it takes a long time and a lot of resources.. I'd rather have a no confidence vote and get things done! MUCH more sensible t

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Zoltan Finks
This just points out something in the human nature. Folks have differing views - always have, always will. I would hold that your statement is exactly opposite true. Brian On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only two persons who actually HAVE make

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!

2008-02-26 Thread jgiels
Nice car.. - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay! > Here's a beast of a car. New Engine (according to seller) > > http://tinyurl.com/ynqkcl > > Dona

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread jgiels
You just did! That is what I would do either that or replace the darn thing! Douglas. - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem > Isn't this the time w

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I went caving a few times with a buddy, the lamps were carbide. You'd fill a little metal cup with carbide pellets, add a bit of water, screw it onto the light fixture, light the little hole where the gas came out, and you would get about 45 min of enough light to see quite well in the cave.

[MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!

2008-02-26 Thread Donald Snook
Here's a beast of a car. New Engine (according to seller) http://tinyurl.com/ynqkcl Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: > 4. Why do attribute such evil motives to President Bush instead of the 38 > prior Presidents who issued these statements. http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/ I imagine that website is pretty biased, but the end number used in their figure I've heard from multiple sou

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Only if it was never replaced, which is rather unlikely at 290,000 miles! Usually they terminally clog around 100,000 or so. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PR

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Frederick
"Signing Statements" mean exactly nothing. The Presdent does not have the authority to pick and choose which laws he will excute, and any President who does or pretends to have that authority should be promptly impeached, convicted, and removed from office. Peter _

Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread R A Bennell
Isn't this the time when someone should pop up and say "work the hazard light switch in and out 50 to 100 times and that should fix the problem"? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:37 PM To: Merce

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: "So how does any of that conflict with what you quoted me saying? I never said Clinton didn't do it, I just said we currently have a problem with Bush doing it, as you admit he is doing." Well, here is what your original email said: "Well, he should have been impeached, tried, con

Re: [MBZ] 240D Cylinder Head Removal/addendum?

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Oops! That guide does have to be free, it not exactly removed! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http:

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: > > Have you ever seen the old lamps used by miners? They use - forgive me if my > chemistry is wrong here - carbide and water. If I recall correctly the > carbide is what is used to make acetelyne. Calcuim Carbide. That's how car headlights used to work. http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [MBZ] How much do I love my car?

2008-02-26 Thread R A Bennell
Manual tranny's have oil too and it won't do much harm to change it periodically. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:48 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How much do I love my car? No

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate

2008-02-26 Thread R A Bennell
Have you ever seen the old lamps used by miners? They use - forgive me if my chemistry is wrong here - carbide and water. If I recall correctly the carbide is what is used to make acetelyne. Basically one takes some of this "rock" and drips water on it and it produces a gas that will burn in a la

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: One Hundred People

2008-02-26 Thread R A Bennell
Isn't that what they say - there are lies, dam*ed lies and statistics in that order Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WAY OT: One Hundred P

Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-26 Thread Zeitgeist
We're all mutant freaks On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many would have blue eyes? Strange question perhaps but I read > somewhere not long ago that everyone on earth > who has blue eyes is related. It is apparently all from one oddball gene > at one

Re: [MBZ] One Hundred People

2008-02-26 Thread R A Bennell
How many would have blue eyes? Strange question perhaps but I read somewhere not long ago that everyone on earth who has blue eyes is related. It is apparently all from one oddball gene at one point in time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beha

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
Tom wrote <> HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa !! It used to be the Democrats were the party of Big govt - now the Republicans seem to be in a competition to create the biggest govt ever ! And they're succeeding! IMO, If McC gets elected we'll only be in *slightly* less

[MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem

2008-02-26 Thread LarryT
The turnsignals in my 78 240D are only working when they feel like it. Since it must be inspected this month/week I'd like it to work and must fix it. I checked all the fuses - they were replaced maybe 3-4 years ago BTW. And the emergency flasher works perfectly. I *think* that means the prob

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights]

2008-02-26 Thread E M
Only problem, now you have to wear sunblock when working at your bench. ;-) Ed 300E On 26/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Be careful about used fluorescent fixtures -- some of them run at weird > > voltages in commercial settings. I saw a Sears store being remodeled > many ye

Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights]

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Be careful about used fluorescent fixtures -- some of them run at weird voltages in commercial settings. I saw a Sears store being remodeled many years ago, the crew was filling up a 30yd dumpster with 4-bulb ceiling fixtures, so I stopped and asked if I could have some for my basement/garage/

[MBZ] OT: Re: Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Zeitgeist
Only he is allowed to "mouth off" about our murdering fascist-in-chief---oops, did I just say that? Wow, see how I added an "OT" to the subject line? It works great for my email filter, so I don't have to read or delete these inane ad nauseum threads. Please use it On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:4

Re: [MBZ] Our Political System

2008-02-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: > Do you know which president promoted these as a way to make law rather than > issue the executive branch's interpretation of the law? BILL FREAKIN' > CLINTON. Clinton also used these much more than President Bush. So how does any of that conflict with what you quoted me sayi

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL

2008-02-26 Thread Zeitgeist
That pic shows the replacement "log", which was installed post-trap recall. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this have the Trap Oxidizer? 290k for $2500. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

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