Re: [MBZ] Mystery revealed, was I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Luther wrote: I don't know what it's called, but it's the three arm deal that mounts to the output shaft and bolts to the flex disk. The retaining nut had worked free and most of the inside teeth are ground/chewed down to nothing. I HOPE that's not the only thing wrong with this transmission ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D killed, but lots of parts available
Yes, both working fine. We actually replaced the exiting plastic valve with a metal one we found while scrounging a wrecker for other parts. ...Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are both sides of the heater control valve functional (as in working, not broken)? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Kevin Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During the winter I had a mechanical problem with the engine in our beloved 1979 240D. (I still haven't gotten to the bottom of it or exactly what happened.) In any case the engine won't spin and with the current price of diesel I have little interest in trying to bring it back from the dead. T -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D klima
Trying to get the AC going on my 190D. Compressor not kicking in. Which 2 pins are you supposed to jumper on the klima relay to see if the compressor kicks in? Have done all this on a 126, but dont have the 201 info. Our 190D uses exactly the same Klima as our SDL. So that should make it easy, right? From my checklist in http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html comes this: Jumper pins 5 7, labeled 15 and 87 on the Klima itself, together temporarily to see if the compressor runs. If not, then something in the compressor clutch wiring is wrong and it's not Klima's fault. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
I don't usually pass on stuff like this but I think in this case an exception can be made since so many on the list are interested in this. Subject: Barack Hussein Obama: Force for construction or force for destruction? Barack Hussein Obama: Force for construction or force for destruction? Is this a man for all Americans or a force for destruction? THINK THIS TIME BEFORE YOU CAST YOU'RE VOTE Will He give 150% ? 50% Marxist Elitist Facist Socialist? 50% Muslim World Conquest?...Sheria Law=hell on earth, just ask Saudi Arabian and Iranians how much fun it is to live under Sheria Law. 50% Black Liberation Theology? (Black Suppremiscist, not equality) - 150% Muslim Arabic words: Taqiyya = obscure true intent...say as Islam has a three step process to conquor a country = first economic, then political and then by violence and all Muslims are charged with obscuring the true intent of Islam is world conquest. Abed = same word for black and for slave. So is airhead Osama working to sell USA whites and blacks into Muslim Sharia slavery? Sites on what Islam really is: http://www.islamreview.com former Muslims http://www.blessedcause.org woman who did not want her children indoctrinated into Islam in the California government school systems just as the American Terrorist Taliban Johnny Walker Linde was. Re: Who Is Obama? Where Is The Press? Quote: We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen. This isn't his only worrisome quotes... here are some more quotes from Barrack Obama in his own words: Audacity of Hope: Lolo (Obama's step father) followed a brand of Islam .. I looked to Lolo for guidance. Dreams of my Father: The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam. Dreams of my Father: In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school Dreams of my Father: I Studied the Koran. Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. Dreams of My Father: I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race. Dreams of my Father: The emotion between the races could never be pure... the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart. Dreams of my Father: Any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning. Dreams of My Father: I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites Dreams Of My Father: I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself... Dreams of My Father: That hate hadn't gone away, he wrote, blaming white people - some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives. Dreams of My Father: There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs, he wrote. It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names Dreams of my Father: Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence. Dreams of my Father: To avoid being mistaken for a racial sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. Dreams of my Father: there was something about him that made me wary, Obama wrote. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. Dreams of my Father: the reason black people keep to themselves is that it's easier than spending all your time mad, or trying to guess whatever it was that white folks were thinking about you. Dreams of my Father: One
Re: [MBZ] YouTube... Killing a 240D!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The comments are a riot to read! Looks like an old well worn rally car that was goin to the crusher to me... Silly how people get so excited over a worn out engine getting trashed. Mike To all, Here is a horrendous example of stupid people loose in the land up north! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdC3LC2lW0feature=related Be sure to read the comments... For MB lovers ... Not pleasant to watch! Take care... Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
OK how about the shifter linkage input arm. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Since everything else has been mentioned, I'll guess the drain tube from the A/C evaporator. Gerry - From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Output shaft?? Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transwarp drive restored on the E420
alot more money and/or debt for one of those, cant be as much fun Luther wrote: I'd rather have a CDI like John On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:29:45 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Messed with the E420 today. After installed the rebuilt throttle body, would sometimes idle too fast, and would not go over 4k rpm. Today I pulled the cover off the big box that holds all the computers, removed and reinstalled each one. Reset the codes, took her out for a spin, problem seems to be solved. Will go to redline, idle seems OK. No check engine light for the moment. Will see what happens. I thought this thing had power before, well I noticed the throttle cable had a little slack in it. Adjusted it like it should be, HOLY CRAP. This is a really fun car!! Everyone needs one of these. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I already said that, you said I was wrong. Luther wrote: Wayyy close. I don't know what it's called, but it's the three arm deal that mounts to the output shaft and bolts to the flex disk. The retaining nut had worked free and most of the inside teeth are ground/chewed down to nothing. I HOPE that's not the only thing wrong with this transmission Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:45:57 -0500, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Output shaft?? Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Is that what you call the output shaft gear? On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:40:27 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already said that, you said I was wrong. Luther wrote: Wayyy close. I don't know what it's called, but it's the three arm deal that mounts to the output shaft and bolts to the flex disk. The retaining nut had worked free and most of the inside teeth are ground/chewed down to nothing. I HOPE that's not the only thing wrong with this transmission Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:45:57 -0500, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Output shaft?? Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay photographer of the week
I live close enough to pick this item up. Wonder of the accessories come with it? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] eBay photographer of the week http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=380033844227 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 7:13 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1501 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 6:33 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather
Ok Don wrote: How are our members/friends in the affected areas? LOT of flooding and tornadoes up that way. Kansas got hit pretty hard in Manhattan and a few other places. Here in Wichita we just had LOTS of rain and lighting. In the last 3 weeks it has hailed 6-7 times at my house and all over the city. Glad to have a two car garage. More amazing is the fact that my basement has been bone dry - pretty good construction for a house built in 1929. The story about the Boy Scouts was very sad. As a fellow Scout, I really feel for those families and the troops that lost scouts. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transwarp drive restored on the E420
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: alot more money and/or debt for one of those, cant be as much fun How much did you pay for that last pickem' up truck? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D killed, but lots of parts available
Let me know when you get down to pulling that part. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Kevin Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, both working fine. We actually replaced the exiting plastic valve with a metal one we found while scrounging a wrecker for other parts. ...Kevin -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IA, MN, KS, IN, etc. weather
Pretty much everything from the south side of Indianapolis (Greenwood) has been soaked. Mooresville, Martinsville, Columbus, etc., are all in bad shape. The dams at Lake Lemon and Princess Lakes are both on the verge of failing, as are many rural roads and bridges. It's going to take years to fix all this stuff. According to my partner, who lives on 10 acres surrounded by farms, none of the farmers have crops in the ground yet, as it's been too wet. That does not bode well for soybeans and corn, which are the primary row crops in the area. That being said, like any natural disaster, it's great for the generator business. I'm going to have my hands full the minute I hit the door. Dan Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan -- Debbie and my step-daughter lived in Martinsville when we hooked up and I moved her to Florida. Seen THAT on the news recently? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Allan Streib wrote: OK Don writes: How are our members/friends in the affected areas? LOT of flooding and tornadoes up that way. Lots of rain last week -- rivers at near record flood stage. Have not been affected myself, my house is on high ground. Water across highway 37 (main route from Bloomington to Indianapolis) had all lanes closed last weekend -- never seen that happen before. Car dealership right in that area had most of his inventory underwater. Wonder what their insurance does in that situation? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. Heck, I haven't even had a chance to look at Edmunds or anywhere else to see what companies are making in this type of vehicle. The requirements are pretty broad: Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on the passenger seat. That's about it. Give me some suggestions, folks. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] secret message for OK Don
10-4 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The turtles have your berries. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather
Michigan just got wet last weekend, along with some wind damage. I had 4 of rain Saturday night. I lost the poplar tree that was next to my spare Saab, it tipped away from the car, and the root ball levered the car up in the air. I've got about a foot of clearance between the passenger side tires and the ground. The fun part will be cutting up the tree without the trunk jumping back up and smacking the door in. Lots of power failures, mine didn't fail until Monday morning when it was sunny and windless, and was back on in under an hour. A friend four miles away was without power from Sunday afternoon to Monday evening, as were half the traffic lights and 2/3 of the gas stations in town. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Crew cab, I think the Dakota is your only viable option. Extended cabs all over the place. The Colorado and Ranger are still smaller than a full size, the Dakota might as well be a Silverado as far as fuel consumption is concerned. I'm always taking a 2nd look at Dodges trying to figure out if they are Daks or Rams. I think the Colorado and Ranger are more the size of my Dad's first generation Dak, which forced Dodge to make the 1997-up Daks full size so it could still be larger than the competition. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL motor mounts?
If you're at the drive-in it matters, not that I would have any specific knowledge in that regard. --R Wilton Strickland wrote: BTW, Rich, if I were rockin the car, I wouldn't care if the windows were clear, or not. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
I don't think the big tee has any kind of restriction in it, but I did not examine the bits of the one I had to destroy to get the big lines off it. I replaced it with the bodged-up brass barb/tee fitting and everything works fine. As far as whether it is the brake booster or vac pump, you can put your gauge on the small everything else branch of the tee, and while the car is running see how much vac you get. Should be pretty healthy. Then push the brake pedal (break petal) and see what kind of drop you get in the vac. When my booster quit boosting, vac would disappear as I guess the diaphragm just let air in once it was pushed a bit. Car would still shut off when the pedal was not pushed, so the accessories line was getting vac. There is some convoluted test procedure to see if the booster is bad, but I think the above worked easier and found the problem. I also put the vac gauge on an accessory line, to see if the accumulator was bad, but it was holding vac until I pushed the brake pedal then it whooshed out. I might have by-passed some of the one-way valves at that time, I don't recall, or maybe they did not really have an effect, I can't recall what my thinking was in looking at the diagram. --R Jim Cathey wrote: So, if the main line from the pump to the brake booster is in good shape (mine is relatively new), then I should be able to have the two accessory tees open to the air and still have enough vacuum for brake boost? If the tees have their restrictors, or are built with the ones I've seen in them. But I could be wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
The Apple sotre will honor student discounts. Just need to show a valid student ID from an approved institution. Gary Thompson 1 daughter on the tenure track i.e. 10 years to a BA On 6/12/08, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure about student discounts at the Store, but ask - I've never purchased anything at an Apple Store, so I'm not sure how that would work. It might not be a bad idea to take something showing that she's enrolled to show her eligibility. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
Gary Thompson wrote: The Apple sotre will honor student discounts. Just need to show a valid student ID from an approved institution. Which may be issued two months after she wants to buy the computer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. Disgusting Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
True, But I also believe that they will honor them with an acceptance letter. An alternative would be for her to bring her high school ID, if she still has it, as they won't make a distinction. If you use the online AES, you just have to check off the disclaimer. Dan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Thompson wrote: The Apple sotre will honor student discounts. Just need to show a valid student ID from an approved institution. Which may be issued two months after she wants to buy the computer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
x2 The SUV quote we've been saying on here for years. Jeff Zedic wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. Disgusting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
LWB250 wrote: Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on the passenger seat. Do not buy a Chevy Colorado. My uncle works for a company that crash tests vehicles... There was a toolbox manufacturer that made toolboxes that bolted to the floor of the extended cab part of the pickup. They contracted the company my uncle works at to make sure they wouldn't go flying around the cab in an accident. The toolboxes stayed in place, but the bolts holding the seats in place sheared and the seats flew all over the place. I would highly recommend a Ford Ranger. The chassis has been in use since 1994 so they've had plenty of time to get it right. I have a '95 and it is indestructible. Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance. I have the 2.3L I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php My $.02 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama
Zedic wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. I didn't send the email, so I can't speak specifically about it. BUT, didn't the quotes come from his books? These were books he wrote, correct? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
I usually try to stay out of the political squabble, and I don't consider myself an Obama lover, but this whole list of quotes is absolutely absurd. Are they real? Did he really say or write these thigs? Absolutely. Can you infer from them anything about his beliefs and/or feelings today? Absolutely not. A bunch of quotes taken completely out of context, without any view of the history or the time frame in which they were made are meaningless. As for the I studied the Koran, I would certainly hope that any world leader would go into any foreign policy (or even domestic policy) discussion with a good understanding of where the other party stood. Does reading the Koran automatically turn one into a radical terrorist intent on destroying the western, Christian world? Not as far as I know. Enough of this bullshit... Gary Thompson On 6/13/08, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. Disgusting Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Dan My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. I like the Ford Ranger for domestic brands. They are cheap, there are tons of them on the road and they get pretty decent mileage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance. I have the 2.3L I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice. Another factor, besides fuel economy and performance, is durability and ease of service. If those are to be factors. (And I have no information about any of the choices.) I followed a Subaru Brat yesterday. Those are _small_! I think we'll be seeing more of such things in a few years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama
Yes, he wrote them, and reading the entire book MIGHT give you some useful insight into his make-up and character, but don't take the easy uneducated electorate approach of trying to draw conclusions from a short list of quotes taken completely out of context as a means of drawing any substantive conclusions. No doubt if GWB was capable of writing a coherent sentence, we could find similarly evil passages in things he has written as well. BTW, I don't particularly like Obama any better than any of the other candidates. It just gets my dander up when such obviously slanted misinformation is passed off as a nugget of truth. Gary Thompson On 6/13/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zedic wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. I didn't send the email, so I can't speak specifically about it. BUT, didn't the quotes come from his books? These were books he wrote, correct? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
Does reading the Koran automatically turn one into a radical terrorist intent on destroying the western, Christian world? Not as far as I know. No more so than reading the Bible! But some people can't read very well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
I went looking for a small pickup several months ago and was really disappointed to find there is no such thing any more. The Tacoma/Frontier/Colorado are now as big as the Dakota used to be, forcing Dodge to make the Dakota as big as what a full sized truck used to be. I was also more interested in a good mileage light hauler. What I found was even the small trucks were sporting 200HP and rated for rediculous towing weights. As such, they got terrible mileage. The best deal I found for my needs was a 20 year old Toyota with a 4 banger, manual transmission. Wish they still made something like it today. Gary Thompson On 6/13/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance. I have the 2.3L I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice. Another factor, besides fuel economy and performance, is durability and ease of service. If those are to be factors. (And I have no information about any of the choices.) I followed a Subaru Brat yesterday. Those are _small_! I think we'll be seeing more of such things in a few years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama
short list of quotes taken completely out of context as a means of drawing any substantive conclusions. Not that I've read anything so that I actually know, but if I were writing a book about Hitler and somewhere in there I quoted It's all the fault of the Jews, one could excerpt that quote-of-a-quote to imply that _I_ thought such rubbish. Other fertile ground for misdirection is grabbing the middle of a deductive argument that leads to a conclusion that the author does _not_ support. Not that I'm a fan of BO or anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Cheap isn't an issue, as these guys are more concerned with reliability. I seem to recall them having a problem with Ford for some reason, but I'm not sure why. Since we have a service fleet of vehicles they may be transferring issues with those to the whole brand. Their only absolute was that it not be a new vehicle. Despite being able to depreciate and all that, they're savvy enough to realize that they don't want to take the initial depreciation hit. They have a couple of business associates who have dealer's licenses, so once I decide on something they'll go to the auction and find what I want. That way we get something late model and for a lot less than new Dan Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. I like the Ford Ranger for domestic brands. They are cheap, there are tons of them on the road and they get pretty decent mileage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Jim Cathey wrote: I followed a Subaru Brat yesterday. Those are _small_! Subaru 1600 wagon converted to El Camino style. Mine was the wagon. In later years, they had the 1800cc engine and I think some even had a 5sp. Smaller than a LUV. BTW, if Dan wasn't looking for a domestic, a Subaru Baja might be worth looking into. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
It appears that the Frontier can be had in a more or less bare bones 4 cyl. 5/6 speed manual if you want it, but I'll bet that there isn't one on a dealer's lot to be found. I was pleasantly surprised to read some of the reviews from the 6 cyl. slushbox owners saying that they are getting in the high teens/low 20s for mileage in a 50/50 city/highway cycle. That's acceptable to me for a truck. I alos noticed that the 4WD versions are pretty common as well. Maybe I'll go that route, too, as some of the locations I'll be getting into are pretty rural. Our service trucks are all 4WD for just that reason... Dan Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went looking for a small pickup several months ago and was really disappointed to find there is no such thing any more. The Tacoma/Frontier/Colorado are now as big as the Dakota used to be, forcing Dodge to make the Dakota as big as what a full sized truck used to be. I was also more interested in a good mileage light hauler. What I found was even the small trucks were sporting 200HP and rated for rediculous towing weights. As such, they got terrible mileage. The best deal I found for my needs was a 20 year old Toyota with a 4 banger, manual transmission. Wish they still made something like it today. Gary Thompson On 6/13/08, Jim Cathey wrote: Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance. I have the 2.3L I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice. Another factor, besides fuel economy and performance, is durability and ease of service. If those are to be factors. (And I have no information about any of the choices.) I followed a Subaru Brat yesterday. Those are _small_! I think we'll be seeing more of such things in a few years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keyes (was: Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security)
Another approach is to award extra votes to people based on the depth of their hatred for the candidates they oppose. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:42 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote (rhetorically unfortunately) ;-) Perhaps the electorate needs to be screened to weed out those with bad judgment and/or liberal leanings? Yeah, I could go for some of that -- ;-D Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keyes (was: Further OT politics,was America's Climate Security) The guy comes across as an arrogant pr*ck, so people don't really focus on his brilliant political views. Perhaps the electorate needs to be screened to weed out those with bad judgment and/or liberal leanings? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry, when a guy gets maybe 28 percent of the vote in a State that is not immune to electing Rs [Maryland], doesn't that tell you something about his appeal to ALL voters? IIRC he was trounced by Sen. Barbara Mikulski. People are so conditioned to lapping up the sugar-coated bullsh*t uttered by most candidates in either party that when someone comes along and says what he thinks in clear, blunt language they don't know what to think of it. The unvarnished truth makes a lot of people uncomfortable. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather
Where are you again? On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michigan just got wet last weekend, along with some wind damage. I had 4 of rain Saturday night. I lost the poplar tree that was next to my spare Saab, it tipped away from the car, and the root ball levered the car up in the air. I've got about a foot of clearance between the passenger side tires and the ground. The fun part will be cutting up the tree without the trunk jumping back up and smacking the door in. Lots of power failures, mine didn't fail until Monday morning when it was sunny and windless, and was back on in under an hour. A friend four miles away was without power from Sunday afternoon to Monday evening, as were half the traffic lights and 2/3 of the gas stations in town. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
'Bout an hour ago while at about 30 mph in the 350SDL, a needle flicker on the instrument panel suddenly cought my eye. The tac had gone to 0! Air speed was stilI good at 30; engine response good - still plenty of power, but tac was at 0. After coupla minutes, tac suddenly jumped back up to normal and stayed normal for rest of several bocks running some errands, including coulpa engine shutdowns and restarts. Tac OK when I shutdown back at home. Tips? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
I would like a high-powered UV laser to mount on my truck, a kilowatt or three should be sufficient, adaptive optics, gimballed lock and track, voice-controlled automatic target ID and firing, so I can fry the tires of the idiots who cut in front me on the freeway without using signals. And maybe to etch little love notes in the paint of their trunks and rear hatches. And to repel foreign and domestic threats too. Where can I get me one a them? Do I need a permit? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Wilton Strickland wrote: Tips? Drive it 'til the 300D is mobile again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
My s.o. using suggested paintball on these traffic anarchists... On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like a high-powered UV laser to mount on my truck, a kilowatt or three should be sufficient, adaptive optics, gimballed lock and track, voice-controlled automatic target ID and firing, so I can fry the tires of the idiots who cut in front me on the freeway without using signals. And maybe to etch little love notes in the paint of their trunks and rear hatches. And to repel foreign and domestic threats too. Where can I get me one a them? Do I need a permit? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather
Olivet, a sleepy little college town between Lansing and Battle Creek. Put zip code 49076 in your favorite mapping web page. andrew strasfogel wrote: Where are you again? On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michigan just got wet last weekend, along with some wind damage. I had 4 of rain Saturday night. I lost the poplar tree that was next to my spare Saab, it tipped away from the car, and the root ball levered the car up in the air. I've got about a foot of clearance between the passenger side tires and the ground. The fun part will be cutting up the tree without the trunk jumping back up and smacking the door in. Lots of power failures, mine didn't fail until Monday morning when it was sunny and windless, and was back on in under an hour. A friend four miles away was without power from Sunday afternoon to Monday evening, as were half the traffic lights and 2/3 of the gas stations in town. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. Heck, I haven't even had a chance to look at Edmunds or anywhere else to see what companies are making in this type of vehicle. The requirements are pretty broad: Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on the passenger seat. That's about it. Give me some suggestions, folks. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, but this is for a company vehicle that I will be hauling things in on a regular basis. Given the choice I would prefer to have a car, but business dictates that I be able to haul small loads when necessary, so the truck is a given. As for the costs, well, much as I hate to say it, they'll be passed on to the customer. Dan dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM, LWB250 wrote: My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. Heck, I haven't even had a chance to look at Edmunds or anywhere else to see what companies are making in this type of vehicle. The requirements are pretty broad: Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on the passenger seat. That's about it. Give me some suggestions, folks. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
andrew strasfogel wrote: My s.o. using suggested paintball on these traffic anarchists... Didn't somebody on this list suggest dart guns, and if a car has two darts on it the cops get to pull him over and write him a ticket? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
I had a buddy who had this little spring loaded gun that fired darts with a suction cup on them. They also had a little flag that was rolled around the stem, which would unroll after being fired. In the interest of not offending fellow listmembers, I won't repeat the text that was on the flags, but it was not complimentary in any way and usually reflected an opinion of the offending driver's driving abilities (or lack thereof.) Dan andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My s.o. using suggested paintball on these traffic anarchists... On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like a high-powered UV laser to mount on my truck, a kilowatt or three should be sufficient, adaptive optics, gimballed lock and track, voice-controlled automatic target ID and firing, so I can fry the tires of the idiots who cut in front me on the freeway without using signals. And maybe to etch little love notes in the paint of their trunks and rear hatches. And to repel foreign and domestic threats too. Where can I get me one a them? Do I need a permit? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Hi Wilton, When was the last fuse replacement? Memory might be wrong, but I recall that was the cause for tach failure on my 300SD... Take care, Chuck To remember Marshall.. Change ALL fuses out every 10 years! On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Bout an hour ago while at about 30 mph in the 350SDL, a needle flicker on the instrument panel suddenly cought my eye. The tac had gone to 0! Air speed was stilI good at 30; engine response good - still plenty of power, but tac was at 0. After coupla minutes, tac suddenly jumped back up to normal and stayed normal for rest of several bocks running some errands, including coulpa engine shutdowns and restarts. Tac OK when I shutdown back at home. Tips? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Unless you are hauling loads to and from your house, I question your logic. As far as passing the costs to the consumer - I'm sure your competition welcomes it. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, but this is for a company vehicle that I will be hauling things in on a regular basis. Given the choice I would prefer to have a car, but business dictates that I be able to haul small loads when necessary, so the truck is a given. As for the costs, well, much as I hate to say it, they'll be passed on to the customer. Dan dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM, LWB250 wrote: My partners have suggested a small pickup truck for my company vehicle, which is fine with me. However, I have little or no experience or exposure to these kinds of vehicles, so I would be interested in what those who have had direct experience think about various models and brands. Heck, I haven't even had a chance to look at Edmunds or anywhere else to see what companies are making in this type of vehicle. The requirements are pretty broad: Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on the passenger seat. That's about it. Give me some suggestions, folks. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
dave walton wrote: Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. This is to be a company vehicle... He is in the generator business, and I imagine he'll be using that pickup bed fairly often. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
LWB250 wrote: That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, Dave was suggesting leaving the truck at the shop and driving a car home. I take it you need to have the truck with you all the time? Maybe the company can go green and give you a 48hp diesel Rabbit P/U? No extended cab version available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
dave walton wrote: Unless you are hauling loads to and from your house, I question your logic. As far as passing the costs to the consumer - I'm sure your competition welcomes it. Isn't that assuming the only driving he does all day is to-from work? I think he is talking about driving parts/generators/etc to customer sites during the day. He could very well commute to work in his own private vehicle. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '83 300D valve cover
On my '83 300D there is piece of formed aluminum rivetted into the top of the valve cover which forms a blind tunnel open at the back. It looks like it was embedded with silicone rubber when it was built although that could have added later by a mechanic. I remember something about sealing the gap in front with epoxy to prevent oil leaks around the filler hole. Since part of the silicone in that gap is missing, should I fill it with epoxy or should I grind off the rivets and re-bed the whole thing? Also, does anyone know the purpose of the tunnel? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D killed, but lots of parts available
It's on the firewall and I won't be driving that car anytime soon, so I can pull it any time. Only a couple of bolts, a few cables and a couple of hose clamps if I remember right. ...Kevin On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me know when you get down to pulling that part. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Kevin Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, both working fine. We actually replaced the exiting plastic valve with a metal one we found while scrounging a wrecker for other parts. ...Kevin -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Wilton - the descriptions and pictures of this project and the clock both cause a sense of profound respect and the confirmation of my decision never to try either. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:20 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy 'Completed bench work yesterday, including all new vac pods (6). The pods work nicely with my Mightyvac. 'Took grandson on tour of NCSU today. 'Probably start reinstalling the box tomorrow. BTW, 'significantly cooler here last coupla days; 'hope it holds for a while. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
One time in college I was a delivery driver for an auto radiator wholesaler. I found out that an '80s Chevy van can shift from drive to reverse at 60mph... It had an OD shifter with a non-OD trans (3rd or 4th trans it had ever had, I forget, something like 500,000 miles.) I was flying along a secondary road and decided to slip into neutral to slow down. Missed neutral and hit reverse. The engine ROARED, the rear wheels made funny sounds, much rubber was left on the pavement. I pulled over and checked my shorts No harm seemed to be done though. I never did tell my boss. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:24:42 -0700 From: Jim Cathey lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed gt; Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is gt; there a mechanism that prevents that? The mechanism is what some of us would call: remembrance of past costly mistake.nbsp; The knob will go there.nbsp; It probably will also shift, but I'm not about to prove it.nbsp; Certainly at least one car I've driven in my life would so shift. Scary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather
Glad you and Debbie are ok and most of your stuff. Just rain can do some serious damage also, though - but far better than the sewage. A couple of my friends who had just married and moved into a 2 story + basement student housing unit [ex-military housing from WWII] decided to paint, so moved all of their combined stuff into the basement the night that Indianapolis got some record rainfall - 6' of water in the basement. Never had more than broken water-pipe damage myself, but that was enough. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] IA KS IL IN MN etc weather The house is fine. We have spent the last two weeks drying stuff that was in the basement (99.99% the wife's since I could move all of my stuff in my 240D and easily move onto a sailboat). Nerves are a bit rattled and everyone is cranky after 15 of water down there. BIG sump pump going in tomorrow morning -- I told the contractor that I want a sump pump, money no object (not dangerous since he is a neighbor), that would have saved the Titanic. It will be a 1/2 hp cast iron sump pump. The plastic pit has a 20 diameter, 25 deep. That is not a guess: I just went downstairs and measured. Sump pump in the middle, pit filled with pea gravel. The plastic pit alone has a $29.99 price sticker slapped onto the side. We got off lucky -- some folks in Jefferson (with finished basements) had 6' or raw sewage down there. Ours was just rain run-off. Three tornadoes have missed us so far this spring and the weather forecast for the next five days is dry and sunny. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:40 PM, OK Don wrote: How are our members/friends in the affected areas? LOT of flooding and tornadoes up that way. Thanks for asking, Don. I'm fine--high and dr and in one piece. But many around here are not. Wonko, Loren, you OK? Dan Des Moines ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
The first time I saw a 6-speed manual, I wondered if people would get used to the shift pattern and then start accidentally putting 5-speed cars into reverse at 60 mph (since R is usually on a 5-speed where 6 is on a 6-speed). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
The Dakota has gotten real big as has the Tacoma. The Colorado appears to be the same size as the early Dakota and I WANT one. 4 years old in 4x4 with extended cab are down around $12K but brand new is only about $20K. The Colorado/Canyon appears to be the choice for commercial trucks around here. They have 3(!) cab options, regular, extended and crew. They'll let you have 4cyl (~180hp) or 5cyl (230hp?). AFAIK Toyota is the only other manufacturer that'll let you have a 4cyl in a 4x4. GM will let you pick the trans too (5spd manual or auto) Toyota has a 6spd option if you take the larger engine. The Dakota is up to 300+hp in 2007 (or '08? I forget.) and later which is stupid amounts of power. My '96 Dakota has like 200hp and its really more than the chassis can tolerate. I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small, don't handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage, can't haul much and are expensive... I'll be looking to GM, the question is new/used. I've got $3k in earnings on a GM card and with the agressive financing its a pretty close thing money wise. Plus the $20k Colorado I want has the specs I want, soft cover over the bed, 4cyl, 5spd, limited slip diff -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:21:57 -0400 From: Mitch Haley lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Crew cab, I think the Dakota is your only viable option. Extended cabs all over the place. The Colorado and Ranger are still smaller than a full size, the Dakota might as well be a Silverado as far as fuel consumption is concerned. I'm always taking a 2nd look at Dodges trying to figure out if they are Daks or Rams. I think the Colorado and Ranger are more the size of my Dad's first generation Dak, which forced Dodge to make the 1997-up Daks full size so it could still be larger than the competition. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D valve cover
I believe it's to reduce the amount of oil going into the breather tube that goes to the air cleaner. There was a dealer fix years ago that involved using RTV to seal up the gaps there. The oil filler cap has a gasket and if it's leaking it needs to be replaced. It's interchangeable with your fuel tank cap. Swap them and see if the leak goes away. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
I knew somebody posted that before but I can't find any corroberating evidence of this... The Ranger gets piss poor gas mileage, the same as the Colorado crew cab 5cyl... 3mpg better than the big Chevy with the 6l v8... The Ranger is smaller than both of them. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:11:55 -0500 From: John Robbins lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed LWB250 wrote: gt; Not a full size pickup Prefer domestic manufacturers (darn!) gt; Something that's 2-3 years old (they will buy this from a trusted gt; dealer, possibly an auction vehicle) gt; gt; I would like it to be a crew cab or an extended cab so I can gt; stretch out and carry stuff in the cab and not have to pile things on gt; the passenger seat. Do not buy a Chevy Colorado.nbsp; My uncle works for a company that crash tests vehicles...nbsp; There was a toolbox manufacturer that made toolboxes that bolted to the floor of the extended cab part of the pickup.nbsp; They contracted the company my uncle works at to make sure they wouldn't go flying around the cab in an accident.nbsp; The toolboxes stayed in place, but the bolts holding the seats in place sheared and the seats flew all over the place. I would highly recommend a Ford Ranger.nbsp; The chassis has been in use since 1994 so they've had plenty of time to get it right.nbsp; I have a '95 and it is indestructible.nbsp; Get the 4.0L V6 as the mileage is about the same as the 3.0L V6, but has more performance.nbsp; I have the 2.3L I4... it gets the job done, but the V6 would be nice. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php My $.02 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Having extra vehicles makes no sense when a small pickup can fit the bill. I have no need for a big truck like the Isuzu but do need to frequently (say 2-3 times a month) haul snowmobiles, mowers (ride on type), motorcycles, junk, trash, boxes, scrap metal, firewood and other stuff/detritus hither and yon. A Jetta would not suffice without a significant utility trailer and even then I'd be limited to 2 snowmobiles at a time since a Jetta would never handle a 4 place snowmobile trailer. So you're saying I should waste our world's resources to have an extra vehicle made? That'll make the price of gas lower? Okay so I do have an extra car but its a hulk I'm restoring to life mostly to prolong the life of my pickup (19mpg on the highway at 65mph)... Point being whats right for one is not right for everybody. A generator installer WILL make use of a pickup. I bet he's even going to have a cap on it to keep generators and whatnot dry. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:42 -0400 From: dave walton lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Cc: Banned lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
That might make sense for some, but home is only a couple of miles at this point, and may even be closer after we get settled. Under those circumstances the savings would be marginal at best. Not to mention the company covers the cost of the truck... Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: That may be true for the average consumer, Dave, Dave was suggesting leaving the truck at the shop and driving a car home. I take it you need to have the truck with you all the time? Maybe the company can go green and give you a 48hp diesel Rabbit P/U? No extended cab version available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
I won't be hauling gensets unless they are very small ones, and for that matter, I won't be doing any field work. I quit that years ago. In most cases, I might be hauling a transfer switch to drop off at a job site, as they usually go in long before the genset is ever there. It's fairly easy for us to drop them off at the job, since we've got people all over the state at any given time. It also saves on shipping costs and gives the installer some comfort in not having to store an expensive piece of equipment until they can hang it. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having extra vehicles makes no sense when a small pickup can fit the bill. I have no need for a big truck like the Isuzu but do need to frequently (say 2-3 times a month) haul snowmobiles, mowers (ride on type), motorcycles, junk, trash, boxes, scrap metal, firewood and other stuff/detritus hither and yon. A Jetta would not suffice without a significant utility trailer and even then I'd be limited to 2 snowmobiles at a time since a Jetta would never handle a 4 place snowmobile trailer. So you're saying I should waste our world's resources to have an extra vehicle made? That'll make the price of gas lower? Okay so I do have an extra car but its a hulk I'm restoring to life mostly to prolong the life of my pickup (19mpg on the highway at 65mph)... Point being whats right for one is not right for everybody. A generator installer WILL make use of a pickup. I bet he's even going to have a cap on it to keep generators and whatnot dry. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:42 -0400 From: dave walton lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Cc: Banned lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Shaddup kid you'll ruin my argument ;) --- On Fri, 6/13/08, LWB250 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: LWB250 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 2:01 PM I won't be hauling gensets unless they are very small ones, and for that matter, I won't be doing any field work. I quit that years ago. In most cases, I might be hauling a transfer switch to drop off at a job site, as they usually go in long before the genset is ever there. It's fairly easy for us to drop them off at the job, since we've got people all over the state at any given time. It also saves on shipping costs and gives the installer some comfort in not having to store an expensive piece of equipment until they can hang it. Dan --- Curt Raymond lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; Having extra vehicles makes no sense when a small gt; pickup can fit the bill. gt; I have no need for a big truck like the Isuzu but do gt; need to frequently (say 2-3 times a month) haul gt; snowmobiles, mowers (ride on type), motorcycles, gt; junk, trash, boxes, scrap metal, firewood and other gt; stuff/detritus hither and yon. A Jetta would not gt; suffice without a significant utility trailer and gt; even then I'd be limited to 2 snowmobiles at a time gt; since a Jetta would never handle a 4 place gt; snowmobile trailer. gt; gt; So you're saying I should waste our world's gt; resources to have an extra vehicle made? That'll gt; make the price of gas lower? gt; gt; Okay so I do have an extra car but its a hulk I'm gt; restoring to life mostly to prolong the life of my gt; pickup (19mpg on the highway at 65mph)... gt; gt; Point being whats right for one is not right for gt; everybody. A generator installer WILL make use of a gt; pickup. I bet he's even going to have a cap on it to gt; keep generators and whatnot dry. gt; gt; -Curt gt; gt; Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:42 -0400 gt; From: dave walton amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice gt; To: Mercedes Discussion List gt; amp;lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comamp;gt; gt; Cc: Banned amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Message-ID: gt; amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp; gt; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 gt; gt; Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense gt; and will make less gt; sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for gt; commuting (Jetta TDI) and gt; a real truck for hauling. I like the little gt; cab-forward Isuzu diesels gt; for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest gt; ones can take at gt; least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. gt; The savings in gt; fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 gt; vehicles. If in gt; doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the gt; Isuzu when gt; needed. gt; gt; Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time gt; just in case I need gt; it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. gt; gt; -Dave Walton gt; gt; gt; gt; ___ gt; http://www.okiebenz.com gt; For new parts see official list sponsor: gt; http://www.buymbparts.com/ gt; For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; gt; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: gt; http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com gt; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 300D anti jerk
I see that according to the epc my vehicle should have the anti jerk unit mounted on the inj pump. Mine does not have it and its not very pleasant to drive in that in surges when shifting gears ( manual tranny ). can the pump work without the anti jerk? Not sure if previous owner removed it but I somewhat I doubt it Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
I'm just encouraging you to look at other options. It is not a question of IF the price of fuel will double or triple from where it is now, but WHEN. Each of us is free to decide how we spend a limited income. He asked for advice and got it. I'd suspect that you want anything that won't fit in a Jetta wagon to go on a real truck anyway. You can't argue with 50+ mpg. The good news is that most new truck owners can't afford to drive them or sell them for what they owe and the lots are full of unsold ones. You can get them cheap around here. They make a crappy commuter vehicle any way you look at it. You want a nice commuter ride - get a W140. Curt - you just have waaay too many toys :-) -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having extra vehicles makes no sense when a small pickup can fit the bill. I have no need for a big truck like the Isuzu but do need to frequently (say 2-3 times a month) haul snowmobiles, mowers (ride on type), motorcycles, junk, trash, boxes, scrap metal, firewood and other stuff/detritus hither and yon. A Jetta would not suffice without a significant utility trailer and even then I'd be limited to 2 snowmobiles at a time since a Jetta would never handle a 4 place snowmobile trailer. So you're saying I should waste our world's resources to have an extra vehicle made? That'll make the price of gas lower? Okay so I do have an extra car but its a hulk I'm restoring to life mostly to prolong the life of my pickup (19mpg on the highway at 65mph)... Point being whats right for one is not right for everybody. A generator installer WILL make use of a pickup. I bet he's even going to have a cap on it to keep generators and whatnot dry. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:42 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Banned [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense and will make less sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for commuting (Jetta TDI) and a real truck for hauling. I like the little cab-forward Isuzu diesels for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest ones can take at least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. The savings in fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 vehicles. If in doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the Isuzu when needed. Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
In that case, why not consider a small SUV? Still hauls people with the back seat up. Hauls stuff with the back seat down. Probably has available 4 wheel drive. Sits a bit higher so better visability. Doesn't use any more fuel than a small truck would. Lots to choose from as everybody and their dog makes multiple versions. No one else wants them right now because of the perceived cost of running one so you can likely get a good deal. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; LWB250 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice Shaddup kid you'll ruin my argument ;) --- On Fri, 6/13/08, LWB250 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: LWB250 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 2:01 PM I won't be hauling gensets unless they are very small ones, and for that matter, I won't be doing any field work. I quit that years ago. In most cases, I might be hauling a transfer switch to drop off at a job site, as they usually go in long before the genset is ever there. It's fairly easy for us to drop them off at the job, since we've got people all over the state at any given time. It also saves on shipping costs and gives the installer some comfort in not having to store an expensive piece of equipment until they can hang it. Dan --- Curt Raymond lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; Having extra vehicles makes no sense when a small gt; pickup can fit the bill. gt; I have no need for a big truck like the Isuzu but do gt; need to frequently (say 2-3 times a month) haul gt; snowmobiles, mowers (ride on type), motorcycles, gt; junk, trash, boxes, scrap metal, firewood and other gt; stuff/detritus hither and yon. A Jetta would not gt; suffice without a significant utility trailer and gt; even then I'd be limited to 2 snowmobiles at a time gt; since a Jetta would never handle a 4 place gt; snowmobile trailer. gt; gt; So you're saying I should waste our world's gt; resources to have an extra vehicle made? That'll gt; make the price of gas lower? gt; gt; Okay so I do have an extra car but its a hulk I'm gt; restoring to life mostly to prolong the life of my gt; pickup (19mpg on the highway at 65mph)... gt; gt; Point being whats right for one is not right for gt; everybody. A generator installer WILL make use of a gt; pickup. I bet he's even going to have a cap on it to gt; keep generators and whatnot dry. gt; gt; -Curt gt; gt; Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:42 -0400 gt; From: dave walton amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice gt; To: Mercedes Discussion List gt; amp;lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comamp;gt; gt; Cc: Banned amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Message-ID: gt; amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp; gt; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 gt; gt; Driving an empty pickup truck around makes no sense gt; and will make less gt; sense as fuel prices increase. Get a car for gt; commuting (Jetta TDI) and gt; a real truck for hauling. I like the little gt; cab-forward Isuzu diesels gt; for hauling. They drive like a car and the smallest gt; ones can take at gt; least 5 tons in the back and give you 15mpg loaded. gt; The savings in gt; fuel will offset increased costs of maintaining 2 gt; vehicles. If in gt; doubt, buy ramps so you can haul your Jetta with the gt; Isuzu when gt; needed. gt; gt; Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time gt; just in case I need gt; it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. gt; gt; -Dave Walton gt; gt; gt; gt; ___ gt; http://www.okiebenz.com gt; For new parts see official list sponsor: gt; http://www.buymbparts.com/ gt; For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; gt; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: gt; http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com gt; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Chevy Colorado
Uh oh, I did some digging for reviews of the Colorado, the results are not good. http://www.buyingadvice.com/chevrolet-colorado-2007-review.html http://www.carsurvey.org/model_Chevrolet_Colorado.html -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D anti jerk
Shouldn't that unit be mounted on the driver's seat, somehow? Come to think of it, maybe it could be licensed to all auto mfrs? --R Peter Merle wrote: I see that according to the epc my vehicle should have the anti jerk unit mounted on the inj pump. Mine does not have it and its not very pleasant to drive in that in surges when shifting gears ( manual tranny ). can the pump work without the anti jerk? Not sure if previous owner removed it but I somewhat I doubt it Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Curt Raymond wrote: I knew somebody posted that before but I can't find any corroberating evidence of this... It was me... You can't find any corroborating evidence because that test was conducted at a private facility under a private contract, etc. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Curt Raymond wrote: I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small, don't handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage, can't haul much and are expensive... Won't argue with the small, although that might be what some people are looking for. I really don't get what you're talking about on the handling. Mine handles very well! It is a little rough, but show me a small pickup that isn't. If you get the V6 they're pretty powerful. Its plenty roomy for me, but I'm only 5'7. My taller passengers seem pretty cramped though. They do get crappy mileage. I've fit all kinds of stuff in mine (see pictures). List prices are expensive, but supposedly you can talk dealers down a couple of thousand easy. 2-3 year old used ones can be had ultra cheap too. That was a few years ago though... haven't looked in a while. Maybe with gas prices the way they are people are downgrading to smaller trucks and thus these have a higher demand. Some of the torment I've given my truck http://picasaweb.google.com/Tymbrymi/Mazda John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Dave wrote: Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. Curt wrote in response: Point being whats right for one is not right for everybody. I think Curt's response to this is probably the smart thing to say. BUT, my response is a little different. How about this idea: the company has decided they want a truck and they are willing to pay the extra cost of the fuel and by golly if they want to drive a truck and use more gas they get to do that. Everyone complains about SUV's being the cause of high gasoline and SUV drivers are looked at like villians. But, if I want to drive a big ole gas guzzling SUV and I want to pay $4 gas at 13 mpg, then I can. The prevalence of SUV's has not caused the high cost of gas. The causes are many, but include: 1. Massive economic development in devloping countries -- especially China. 2. The VERY weak dollar. 3. Speculating traders 4. MASSIVE decrease in refining capacity in the last 30 years 5. The explosion of other goods that are also made from petroleum. 6. Failure to drill in areas of known oil reserves like the continental chelf, the entire state of Washington, Oregon and much of California -- thank you President Clinton. 7. CAFE standards that are easily manipulated by the carmakers. The Vans with fold flat floors can be included in the truck categories in order to raise the truck average mileage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Donald Snook wrote: 4. MASSIVE decrease in refining capacity in the last 30 years Do you have any evidence for this? I have heard of the whole no new refineries bit, but never of a decrease in capacity. Not building new ones doesn't mean you can't rebuild existing ones for higher capacity (either through new technology or building more compactly, etc). I agree with all your other points except the drilling in known oil reserves. I'm not sure what I think about that yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Dave wrote: I'd suspect that you want anything that won't fit in a Jetta wagon to go on a real truck anyway. You can't argue with 50+ mpg. The good news is that most new truck owners can't afford to drive them or sell them for what they owe and the lots are full of unsold ones. You can get them cheap around here. They make a crappy commuter vehicle any way you look at it. You want a nice commuter ride - get a W140. I have a good friend who is as green as they come EXCEPT when it comes to his vehicle. He is an architect and has designed all sorts of new solar panel set ups for his house. He recycles almost everything. He uses a reel mower instead of a gas powered mower. I can;t even think of all the things he does in this area. BUT, he drives a late 90's Chevy 4X4 and he is not going to change. He says he has found a vehicle that fits him and that he likes. The truck has a few hundred thousand miles on it. Whenever anything goes wrong, he fixes it and has no plans to get anything different. He commutes in it, by the way. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
There is a big difference between the company buying you a truck and the company suggesting you buy a truck and they will pay your expenses. Basically, don't buy anything you don't want to get stuck with - things change. You may think they won't, and they might not - but they may. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave wrote: Thinking you need to drive a truck all the time just in case I need it is part of why gas costs $4/gallon now. Curt wrote in response: Point being whats right for one is not right for everybody. I think Curt's response to this is probably the smart thing to say. BUT, my response is a little different. How about this idea: the company has decided they want a truck and they are willing to pay the extra cost of the fuel and by golly if they want to drive a truck and use more gas they get to do that. Everyone complains about SUV's being the cause of high gasoline and SUV drivers are looked at like villians. But, if I want to drive a big ole gas guzzling SUV and I want to pay $4 gas at 13 mpg, then I can. The prevalence of SUV's has not caused the high cost of gas. The causes are many, but include: 1. Massive economic development in devloping countries -- especially China. 2. The VERY weak dollar. 3. Speculating traders 4. MASSIVE decrease in refining capacity in the last 30 years 5. The explosion of other goods that are also made from petroleum. 6. Failure to drill in areas of known oil reserves like the continental chelf, the entire state of Washington, Oregon and much of California -- thank you President Clinton. 7. CAFE standards that are easily manipulated by the carmakers. The Vans with fold flat floors can be included in the truck categories in order to raise the truck average mileage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
Curt wrote: I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small, don't handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage, can't haul much and are expensive... The Ranger gets piss poor gas mileage, the same as the Colorado crew cab 5cyl... 3mpg better than the big Chevy with the 6l v8... The Ranger is smaller than both of them. According to the EPA mileage estimates, the Ranger beats all the other small trucks. Ranger 21/27 Colorado/Canyon 18/25 Dakota 15/20 Tacoma 18/25 This is based on 2006 figures because I think Dan said he wanted a used vehicle. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] more bad advice
...I was flying along a secondary road and decided to slip into neutral to slow down This is a technique that has never occurred to me. Please elaborate. Further, I'm loving all the advice in re: buy a 20-30 year old vehicle as a business vehicle. Aside from the negative impression on the customers, how does buying TWO (someone suggested) work, considering maintenance, licensing and insurance. Wait, I get it now. Friday the 13th. RLE ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thank You, America
The OPEC minister will look you in the eyes and state: \ We are at war with you infidels. Have been since the embargo in the 1970s. You are so arrogant you haven't even recognized it. You have more missiles, bombs, and technology; so we are fighting with the best weapon we have and extracting on a net basis about $700 billion/year out of your economy. We will destroy you! Death to the infidels! While I am here I would like to thank you for the following: Not developing your 250-300 year supply of oil shale and tarsands. we know if you did this, it would create millions of jobs for US citizens, expand your engineering capabilities, and keep the wealth in the US instead of sending it to us to finance our war against you bastards. Thanks for limiting defense dept. purchases of oilsands from your neighbors to the north. We love it when you confuse your allies. Thanks for over regulating every segment of your economy and thus delaying, by decades, the development of alternate fuel techno logies. Thanks for limiting drilling off your coasts, in Alaska, and anywhere there is a bug, bird, fish, or plant that might be inconvenienced. Better that your people suffer! Glad to see our lobbying efforts have been so effective. Corn based Ethanol. Praise Allah for this sham program! Perhaps you will destroy yourself from the inside with these types of policies. This is a gift from Allah, praise his name! We never would have thought of this one! This is better than when you pay your farmers NOT TO GROW FOOD. Have them use more energy to create less energy, and simultaneously drive food prices through the roof. Thank you US Congress And finally, we appreciate you letting us fleece you without end. You will be glad to know we have been accumulating shares in your banks, real estate, and publicly held companies. We also finance a good portion of your debt and now manipulate your markets, currency, and economies to our benefit. THANK YOU AMERICA ! ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
They do make a Colorado crew cab at least from '05. My Dad had a 2wd model with the 2.8L 4 cylinder. I don't remember the fuel mileage numbers, but it didn't get anywhere near the 30MPG average of the '03 Jetta wagon which he traded in for it. It was quite a comfortable truck, even compared to the '07 Dodge. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
My first thought. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac Wilton Strickland wrote: Tips? Drive it 'til the 300D is mobile again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - IA, MN, KS, IN, etc. weather
And the home repair business :D Luther-repairing windows, doors, sheetrock, framing, re-roofing, etc. On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:08:17 -0500, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much everything from the south side of Indianapolis (Greenwood) has been soaked. Mooresville, Martinsville, Columbus, etc., are all in bad shape. The dams at Lake Lemon and Princess Lakes are both on the verge of failing, as are many rural roads and bridges. It's going to take years to fix all this stuff. According to my partner, who lives on 10 acres surrounded by farms, none of the farmers have crops in the ground yet, as it's been too wet. That does not bode well for soybeans and corn, which are the primary row crops in the area. That being said, like any natural disaster, it's great for the generator business. I'm going to have my hands full the minute I hit the door. Dan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
most new truck owners can't afford to drive them or sell them for what they owe and the lots are full of unsold ones. I can't believe the number of Dodge Ram Diesels on the market right now! My truck stickered at 42K, and you can't even get $30K for it even with only 5K miles! Trade-in would be somewhere around 22K, absurd! Luckily, I'm not trading it in anytime soon. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
Good idea, but you would have to limit the number of darts available to any one driver. Some folks do go overboard and/or have a short fuse. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) andrew strasfogel wrote: My s.o. using suggested paintball on these traffic anarchists... Didn't somebody on this list suggest dart guns, and if a car has two darts on it the cops get to pull him over and write him a ticket? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
prev comments private ownership of field pieces and ship's cannon I've struggled with this as well. I finally came to the conclusion that people who have led a good life and never ran afoul of the law *should* be allowed to own whatever they want. After all, the cost to maintain, buy ammo fire will make ownership self limiting. Tanks can be pretty expensive - but they're legal to own already - millionaires have a few as do restoration specialists. Ya'll probably know there are people who own awesome fully auto weapons already - all needed is a license which comes with a background check and fee. There's a guy who made a bunch of money making reloading supplies. Once or twice a year he invites other people with auto weapons to his property - several thousand acres next to the White Sands Proving Grounds where he flies helicopters with machine guns mounted and shoots up old cars. All the other guys with shoulder fired weapons and tripod mounted machine guys line up on a range and blast away. Night shooting with tracers is especially exciting. I'll bet there's a clip of it on whatchamacallit. AFter several hours of shooting the reloading company is set to make *big* buckets of money! 50 cal machne gun rounds rn about $5.00 *each* and even they had a quad 50 (4 - 50 cal machine guns mounted on a common mount ) - which went thru approx 2000 rounds in about 20 seconds. (IIRC) Fun stuff - and loud! Sarah Brady would have a heart attack if she saw it. ;-) There's also a yearly full-auto shooting event in Ky. with the same stuff showing up. He has some rocket propelled weapons there also but I'm not sure what kind. The problem is not with people like these - who jump thru the hoops to get licenses - they will not do anything to jeopardize their license. The problem is when bad guys buy them or steal them -- stealing is more likely as they are very expensive, but even that is unlikely as the people who can afford to own these guns can afford the security to keep them safe. The 50 cal rifles congress was so excited about a while back cost over $6000 *each* and weight nearly 40 #s (IIRC) - not the kind of thing a thug wants to hold up the corner liquor store. Additionally they've never been used in a crime. True, they have the potential to cause great harm - but so does a hammer if it's thrown into a jet engine. That's the short version - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) John Robbins wrote: I didn't much care for that either, but what about the last paragraph? The historical definition of arms in the 2A would best be described as all the terrible implements of the soldier. Although private ownership of field pieces and ship's cannon was commonplace at the time, and there was no intent to take them away from us, it's less certain that they intended the 2A to guarantee a pre-existing right to keep and bear artillery. What is certain is that all hand carried, shoulder fired weapons were included. This would necessarily include RPGs and shoulder fired anti tank weapons. There was no intent to arm agents of government above and beyond whatever the people held. Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, et al, would be aghast at the standing army possessed by my county government, and they would certainly think that if my county sheriff had an APC, then I should have a LAW, otherwise I would be helpless before them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
Since they are supposed to be quotes from his own book and not having read it I obviously don't know if they are or not. So the thing for me to do would be to get the book and read it as I'm guessing you all have done and see for myself how badly these were taken out of context. I mean they must have been since there were so many people upset about that. Manfred Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:51:05 -0400 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. Disgusting Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
I believe that oif there was a true revolution in the US some of the military would join in. So there would be tanks, F15s, baxzookas etc involved and at that point they'd be considered in private hands Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
You can probably mount one - and it'll be ok until you use it *once* as the police will hunt you down like a dog and charge you with attempted murder or at least assault with a deadly weapon.! Then the problem will be gone. And Rich will be getting to know his new cellmate. Can you say hide the soap? ;-) see - these things are self limiting. But sure, you can have one (IMHO) ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) I would like a high-powered UV laser to mount on my truck, a kilowatt or three should be sufficient, adaptive optics, gimballed lock and track, voice-controlled automatic target ID and firing, so I can fry the tires of the idiots who cut in front me on the freeway without using signals. And maybe to etch little love notes in the paint of their trunks and rear hatches. And to repel foreign and domestic threats too. Where can I get me one a them? Do I need a permit? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Part Needed
Hi all, No rant (relax) for now. I need a part for the 78 240D - the Lower hose that runs from the bottom of the oil filter housing goes to the Oil Cooler lower connection 123.123.12.050680 VIN Anybody got one they can part with? Price? ;-) Thanks Gang!! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Truck advice
I'd have to go with the Ranger, too, with a 4 cyl and 5 speed. They get the best mileage. THey're just about right for hauling small loads. And if you have to haul something larger, just add a $600, 3/4-ton capacity Home Depot utility trailer, and you can haul nearly two tons of stuff, and more volume than in a full-sized pickup. I am a 1/4 owner of an '86 S-10, which is stone age unrefined, but the little 92-hp 4 pulls it just fine and gets 25 mpg. I've hauled 3,500 pounds from Maine to Iowa with it (1500 in the bed and about 2000 in the trailer) at 65 mph, in 5th, and got 18 mpg doing it. Best of both worlds--best milage for most work, and more capacity than a big pickup when you need it, with a trailer. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Barack Hussein Obama
MG wrote: Since they are supposed to be quotes from his own book and not having read it I obviously don't know if they are or not. So the thing for me to do would be to get the book and read it as I'm guessing you all have done and see for myself how badly these were taken out of context. I mean they must have been since there were so many people upset about that. If you spent the time to research even a quote or two you would find that they are baseless provocative rubbish. http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/therealquote http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D valve cover
- Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe it's to reduce the amount of oil going into the breather tube that goes to the air cleaner. There was a dealer fix years ago that involved using RTV to seal up the gaps there. The oil filler cap has a gasket and if it's leaking it needs to be replaced. It's interchangeable with your fuel tank cap. Swap them and see if the leak goes away. Zedic Thanks, Jeff. I seem to remember something about using epoxy to fill in the missing RTV, but the way aluminum expands and contracts, I wonder if RTV might be a better fix? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Thank you very much, Bill. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy Wilton - the descriptions and pictures of this project and the clock both cause a sense of profound respect and the confirmation of my decision never to try either. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:20 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy 'Completed bench work yesterday, including all new vac pods (6). The pods work nicely with my Mightyvac. 'Took grandson on tour of NCSU today. 'Probably start reinstalling the box tomorrow. BTW, 'significantly cooler here last coupla days; 'hope it holds for a while. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
You are such a buzz killer. --R LarryT wrote: You can probably mount one - and it'll be ok until you use it *once* as the police will hunt you down like a dog and charge you with attempted murder or at least assault with a deadly weapon.! Then the problem will be gone. And Rich will be getting to know his new cellmate. Can you say hide the soap? ;-) see - these things are self limiting. But sure, you can have one (IMHO) ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) I would like a high-powered UV laser to mount on my truck, a kilowatt or three should be sufficient, adaptive optics, gimballed lock and track, voice-controlled automatic target ID and firing, so I can fry the tires of the idiots who cut in front me on the freeway without using signals. And maybe to etch little love notes in the paint of their trunks and rear hatches. And to repel foreign and domestic threats too. Where can I get me one a them? Do I need a permit? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: For those who missed it: If indeed the Second Amendment provides an absolute, constitutional protection for the right to bear arms in order to preserve the power of the people to resist government tyranny, then it must allow individuals to possess bazookas, torpedoes, SCUD missiles and even nuclear warheads, for they, like handguns, rifles and M-16s, are arms. Moreover, it is hard to imagine any serious resistance to the military without such arms. Yet few, if any, would argue that the Second Amendment gives individuals the unlimited right to own any weapons they please. But as soon as we allow governmental regulation of any weapons, we have broken the dam of Constitutional protection. Once that dam is broken, we are not talking about whether the government can constitutionally restrict arms, but rather what constitutes a reasonable restriction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know no one wants me to write a few thoudsand words about the ACLU and gun control - but the stuff they say on the link provided contain a lot of inaccuracies. As far as it being a collective right all one need do is read what the framers said about gun ownership. i.e., they feel every man out to be armed. As Mitch said, in all amendment the people means the people but in the 2ndA the people means the militia, yeah, right. BTW, the Supremes never said it was a collective right. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) LarryT wrote: Speaking of the ACLU - snip lots of nasty cases They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice
You know I thought about it while riding home and I think I'm predisposed to hate Rangers because my ex-girlfriend had one and loved it. I spent more time shoveling that ()*amp;^%! thing out of the snow and wondering what idiot would want a 2wd pickup in Maine... -Curt --- On Fri, 6/13/08, John Robbins lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: John Robbins lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck Buying Advice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 3:07 PM Curt Raymond wrote: gt; I see no reason why anyone should buy a Ranger, they're small, don't gt; handle well, not terribly powerful, not roomy, get poor gas mileage, gt; can't haul much and are expensive... Won't argue with the small, although that might be what some people are looking for. I really don't get what you're talking about on the handling. Mine handles very well! It is a little rough, but show me a small pickup that isn't. If you get the V6 they're pretty powerful. Its plenty roomy for me, but I'm only 5'7. My taller passengers seem pretty cramped though. They do get crappy mileage. I've fit all kinds of stuff in mine (see pictures). List prices are expensive, but supposedly you can talk dealers down a couple of thousand easy. 2-3 year old used ones can be had ultra cheap too. That was a few years ago though... haven't looked in a while. Maybe with gas prices the way they are people are downgrading to smaller trucks and thus these have a higher demand. Some of the torment I've given my truck http://picasaweb.google.com/Tymbrymi/Mazda John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D valve cover
I'd expect it would be better. Other, smarter types on this list will be able to tell you for sure. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Replace the instrument fuse (especially if your oil pressure dropped to zero at the same time) and the OVP relay. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
