Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
First, and most obviously, the engine is sensitive to low revs. Which means that revs always have to kept high, especially in gears 3-5. All your problems sound like they might be relieved somewhat with a shorter rear end in it. Our 190D (manny conversion) exhibits a mild form of this

[MBZ] Java Error

2008-10-04 Thread Ed Booher
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:01 PM, David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't understand it but since I got this new computer i cannot log onto the home site I keep getting some type of a JAVA error. Thanks, Dave H... Write down the error and send it back. The most likely problem is

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. plus a few other pieces.....purists be warned, not for the faint hearted

2008-10-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/forum_entry.php?id=19925 or for those who need a bit more space http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=138296208 or if you want the car to arrive half an hour before you do

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. plus a few other pieces.....purists be warned, not for the faint hearted

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/forum_entry.php?id=19925 Can you imagine trying to get TÜV to let you drive it on the road? On second thought, although it's on a .de web site, is that a Russian plate? I bet the Russians are less strict

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. plus a few other pieces.....purists be warned, not for the faint hearted

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/forum_entry.php?id=19925 Rice, rice, baby! Can you imagine trying to get TÜV to let you drive it on the road? http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=138296208 E200 Hearse? Roomy, but probably a bit slow. Might be fun, but

[MBZ] RICH NEEDS TO BUY THIS

2008-10-04 Thread Max Dillon
Found one for you, I'm passing because it doesn't have AC. '72 350SL for $3950 (typo?) http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/865375420.html -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. plus a few other pieces.....purists be warned, not for the faint hearted

2008-10-04 Thread tom savage
Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/forum_entry.php?id=19925 Rice, rice, baby! Can you imagine trying to get TÜV to let you drive it on the road? I kind of like it. The world needs more brown hot rods.

Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Euan, any time you want to bore us with a post like that you go right ahead. I find it much more interesting than the political pap we've had lately. The juddering you describe interests me since it doesn't happen on my 240D or 190D both manual. I do get a shudder on the 190D first thing in the

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread David Hemsley
Maybe if enough people understood the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights and then had enough humph to say, believe and stand behind He_ _ NO I'm not going to take it anymore we would not have to worry about someone knocking on our door - or more explicitly knocking down our door in the middle

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Hurst
i think it was snook. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who committed treason? Kevin wrote: Why? The high crime of treason is the only crime actually spelled out in the constitution. Why shouldn't we expect, if not demand, that those guilty of treason are

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Hurst
the waffen ss are just plain military, comparable, say, the USMC. you would mean just plain SS, but probably more like gestapo from your description. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: If it weren't you would be rounded up for such

Re: [MBZ] Roll call vote on HR 1424

2008-10-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hey Wonko, are you going to move back to DC? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Dubya is a Democratic cheerleader? Only if the Democrats have turned to Marxism. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty?

2008-10-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
Drops?? From under the car? Are you talking about a wagon or a sedan? Mine is a 300TD wagon. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was some kind of plastic. I don't recall the details but it took maybe an hour to drop the vacuum reservoir. I think

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. plus a few other pieces.....purists be warned, not for the faint hearted

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/forum_entry.php?id=19925 or for those who need a bit more space http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=138296208 or if you want the car to arrive half an hour before you do http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/

Re: [MBZ] RICH NEEDS TO BUY THIS

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm passing because it doesn't have AC. '72 350SL for $3950 (typo?) http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/865375420.html It has it. It's probably just broken, but I'm sure it's fixable, as opposed to a Euro car that was made without it or something. (Well, it has the thermostat knob, anyway.)

[MBZ] HR 1424 - Background on Debacle!

2008-10-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi all, With all of the who did what or who didn't do anything to cause/ contribute to the current financial debacle, here are two pretty clear articles from the NYTimes This is from 1999: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html? res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260 This is from

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: the waffen ss are just plain military, In the end, you were right, but in the beginning, a little closer to what I was thinking. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/waffenss.html The Waffen-SS (Armed Protective Squadron) was the combat arm of the

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty?

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
Wagon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:08 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty? Drops?? From under the car? Are you talking about a wagon or a

[MBZ] One down

2008-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Driver's side rear brake is done. Learned a lot, managed to break a c-clamp. It was a tool show cheapie but interestingly had been fine up till now... I learned the better way to push the calipers back is with a screwdriver while the old pads and rotor are still installed... Gotta have some

Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Jeff Zedic
I thought all the wagins had a different ratio diff than the sedanssomeone must have a technical data sheet with the info. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah thats my point, Euan could benefit from a lower ratio like from a 240D... -Curt --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Euan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, October

Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Hey Zedic, Are you still in the UK? Bob R In the AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Euan I thought all the wagins

Re: [MBZ] Euan

2008-10-04 Thread Jeff Zedic
Yes! I've been enjoying the warm sparkly weather..almost ready to buy a scarf. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] Euan's 5spd 123.190

2008-10-04 Thread Max Dillon
Howdy Euan, we had an exchange re: juddering several years ago when I also owned a car like yours. Mine would make an obnoxious noise at low RPM in 1st and 2nd, and keeping above 2000 RPM would eliminate it. The noise came from either the engine or the transmission to my ears, and my mechanic

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
Gary wrote if enough people understood the Constitution Hey ya'll - anyone know much the Constitution is taught in school these days? It's been 40+ years since I last stepped into my High School, but I seem to recall spending a semester/quarter on the Constitution - possibly 2

Re: [MBZ] One down

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
always do one pad at a time - using a large screwdriver wedged between the old pad and rotor obviously being careful not to damage the rotor - although that's unlikely. Never remove both pads at the same time - you'll find a worn pad makes a perfect place to wedge the screwdriver. Don't

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Hurst
after the war, they were still vilified equally with the ss who ran the camps, but i always found this to be incorrect, sort of the equivalent singling out marines or rangers for special treatment. then again, such subtleties were not really on anyone's minds as the winners were pissed off and

Re: [MBZ] RICH NEEDS TO BUY THIS

2008-10-04 Thread Rich Thomas
My wife would love it after she killed me. --R Max Dillon wrote: Found one for you, I'm passing because it doesn't have AC. '72 350SL for $3950 (typo?) http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/865375420.html -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread OK Don
My youngest graduated from HS three years ago - he and his three sisters before him all had significant study of the Constitution. I still have several copies around the house. I even have one on an iPod Touch! On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote if enough

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: My youngest graduated from HS three years ago - he and his three sisters before him all had significant study of the Constitution. In school, at home, or both? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] One down

2008-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Well that was to be the subject of my next post. I didn't realize that the front rotors and wheel bearings were inter-related the way they are and I'm not prepared... In fact its terrible because in pushing the driver's side front caliper back I pretty much destroyed the pads, it looked like

[MBZ] Drool

2008-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond
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[MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread OK Don
That would be funny if it weren't true! On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.strategerycapital.com/index.php?slug=home -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely

Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: That would be funny if it weren't true! The question is, do we call the president Comrade Bush or Franklin Delano Bush? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty?

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
Come to think of it, there was a second vacuum reservoir in the left fender near the hood on my 79 300TD. A PO had disconnected it and everything still worked fine so I never gave it a second thought until now. Is that the one that troubles you? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Three cheers for an OKie! Was PORK

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
Hmmm where was the media when all this was happening? I wonder how well the vote was publicized? And when the topic was difficult to understand if their constituents understood what they were doing.'' they protected the dems as they always have. But very gradually the situation is

Re: [MBZ] Euan's 5spd 123.190

2008-10-04 Thread Euan
Hi there, Max Yes, I remember our conversations. Thanks for your comments this time too. Apart from a thrust bearing renewal last year, nothing has been touched in the clutch. It's the original. Another possible cause (that I learned about in intervening years) would be an incorrect clutch

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
Well, that's encouraging. I feared it had been minimalized. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT Three cheers for an OKie................perhaps?

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
you asked where was the good senator when the good times where rolling? Did he stand up and warn about the dangers of If you're talking about Sen Coburn, he was elected to office in 2004 - so he was pretty new when the problems were starting - which he wrote about. As far as where he was

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread LarryT
You wrote Or the ones that think they can write Bush Sucks on a piece of notebook paper and hold it up at an airport as Air Farce One lands? The Secret Service protection division seems to have been converted to the Waffen SS, starting about 2004. Either it happened again with Bush or youpre

Re: [MBZ] Euan's 5spd 123.190

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Were a lower ratio diff to be fitted, what would that mean for fuel consumption on the highway, I wonder? Very little, I'd think. Diesels aren't nearly as sensitive to throttle position as gassers. You want the engine running in its sweet spot anyway, so if the gearing is too high you'd be

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty?

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Come to think of it, there was a second vacuum reservoir in the left fender near the hood on my 79 300TD. A PO had disconnected it and everything still worked fine so I never gave it a second thought until now. Is that the one that troubles you? That reservoir is for the HVAC system. It

Re: [MBZ] Drool

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/866389163.html I've been to Beverly! An ex girlfriend moved back there, I helped her drive cross-country. Her family owned a copy shop, I think her brother still runs it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] One down

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
they're REALLY tight against the rotor. Like its hard to turn the wheel tight, like it makes a horrible squealing noise when I move the car tight... They'll scrub down to something reasonable pretty quickly. I like to use a putty knife or the like to protect the pad and/or rotor when I'm

Re: [MBZ] Debate

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Either it happened again with Bush or youpre thinking about the person in Chicago who said that to Clinton and was promptly investigated by the IRS. You wanna know something truly amazing? I googled it and it lead me right back here:

[MBZ] Upper ball joints

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I've just finished doing one (of the two) in Ethelred, the '82 380 SL. They were both bad and you could rattle the wheels back and forth when jacked up. (Chunka-chunka.) It's been worrying me, and I finally got time to address it. It's actually not that hard, a 4 grinder is the secret weapon.

[MBZ] 190E gets 35mpg!

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
I might consider buying this, seems like Berryman wanted $1k jusr for the manny tranny and everything you'd need to install it in a 190 a couple of years ago. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/865279573.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] 190E gets 35mpg!

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Hurst
they are crazy rare. a 2.6 would be preferred to a 2.3, but a running 2.3 with 5 speed is still a steal for a thousand bucks one warning though is that a lot of guys think 5 speed means the shift lever is on the floor. so they will call 4 speed manuals 5 speeds and automatics with the gearshift

Re: [MBZ] Drool

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kraly
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/866389163.html Don't tempt me! It's not fair that it's on the wrong coast! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

[MBZ] cheap 300E

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300E

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Hurst
oh, yeah, well worth a long look do you evcen live near lansing, MI? On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/860351282.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

[MBZ] Update on the hesitation steering

2008-10-04 Thread Euan
It's been some time since I last reported on the problem I had with my steering freezing momentarily. The fix, you'll recall, was to adjust the power steering belt to eliminate slippage. Well, that seems to have been the correct diagnosis. Wet or dry, there's been no recurrence of steering

Re: [MBZ] Update on the hesitation steering

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Euan wrote: The fix, you'll recall, was to adjust the power steering belt to eliminate slippage. So how hard is it to steer with the engine off? I back my 16v down a hill and turn around before starting the engine usually, it's kind of heavy, but not bad if it's rolling when I turn.

Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread OK Don
Comrade. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: That would be funny if it weren't true! The question is, do we call the president Comrade Bush or Franklin Delano Bush? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor

Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Comrade. Good point. FDR would have wanted to create jobs by spending $800 billion building windmills and solar generating plants. And that would be 100 times better use for the money than what we just did with it yesterday. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread OK Don
Exactly. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Comrade. Good point. FDR would have wanted to create jobs by spending $800 billion building windmills and solar generating plants. And that would be 100 times better use for the money than what we

Re: [MBZ] Drool

2008-10-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's what is known as a 50' paint job. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/866389163.html Don't tempt me! It's not fair that it's on the wrong coast! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week

2008-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Exactly. But don't forget, Comrade Bush has over 300 co-conspirators, including Comrades Biden (D-CT), McClain(R-AZ), Obama(D-IL), Lenin (D-MI)... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty?

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
I recall that being the case but the HVAC worked fine without it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 21:24 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 fenders .. Rusty? Come to think of

Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD

2008-10-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have a can of Biobor algaecide that came with the car but the directions are quite complicated, not to mention hard to read, as they are printed in a twisted way around the can. Has anyone used this stuff? I currently have about 5 gallons in the tank (1983 300TD), or about 1/3 of a tank.

Re: [MBZ] OT Three cheers for an OKie................perhaps?

2008-10-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He was in the house way before that LarryT wrote: you asked where was the good senator when the good times where rolling? Did he stand up and warn about the dangers of If you're talking about Sen Coburn, he was elected to office in 2004 - so he was pretty new when the problems were starting

Re: [MBZ] 190E gets 35mpg!

2008-10-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea right Mitch Haley wrote: I might consider buying this, seems like Berryman wanted $1k jusr for the manny tranny and everything you'd need to install it in a 190 a couple of years ago. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/865279573.html ___

Re: [MBZ] Drool

2008-10-04 Thread Rich Thomas
That would be pronounced bevvuhlee or bevvlee. It's right next to peebuhddee. --R Jim Cathey wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/866389163.html I've been to Beverly! An ex girlfriend moved back there, I helped her drive cross-country. Her family owned a copy shop, I think her