Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber and tax dodger like certain Dem senators

2008-10-17 Thread Gary Hurst
you don't pay taxes based on gross, but on net. joe could gross 10 million and net 50k. it is the latter number that matters. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > At 08:02 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: > >> My understanding is that Obama said that less than 2% o

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Gary Hurst
that gary guy is the absolute bomb. i really like him. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party >> operations for our books. Now the only way people can place an ad i

Re: [MBZ] interference

2008-10-17 Thread Luther
Just a measly 100W? Sheesh. I remember in the late '80s riding in a Crown Victoria with the cruise set, when I keyed up my HT on .52simplex, the cruise would accelerate the entire time I was transmitting. Was kinda funny... :) Luther OK Don wrote: The FCC has limits for how much RF can es

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Both the B-17 and the B-29 were reportedly easy to fly, well balanced and easy to trim. Not true in the case of the B-24: you had to fight that one the entire trip. I thought the B-29 had boosted controls though. Peter On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...B-17 - fast

Re: [MBZ] 300D Late Shifting

2008-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the line from the vacuum control box on the IP to the transmission control "thingy" on the left fender, and the associated rubber bits -- they get old and hard and leak. Ditto for the line form the transducer "thingy" to the tranny -- does it hold vacuum? Peter On Oct 17, 2008, at 8

Re: [MBZ] OT, mouse always clicking twice?

2008-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick
I'm having the same problems -- are you using FireFox perhaps? Very annoying, and it's happening on two different computers and three different mice, too. Peter On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: For the last several weeks,it seems like when I click on something, it cli

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Understood! On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I meant no disparagement whatever to the awesome-for-its-time, > mid-30's-design B-17. 'Deserves some major credit for our victoiy in WW II, > especially in Europe. Damned glad it was ready just when

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, but mccain was in the real military though, not the coast guard On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think I ever used that phrase. As a fellow retired military > officer, > I respect McCain for that part of his life. > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
Me, too, but his 5+ years in Hanoi doesn't mean we oughta/needta make him POTUS. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber an

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
And I meant no disparagement whatever to the awesome-for-its-time, mid-30's-design B-17. 'Deserves some major credit for our victoiy in WW II, especially in Europe. Damned glad it was ready just when we needed it so badly. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
ANYTHING heavier and faster than a Cessna 172 is fast and heavy to me! They all also fall into the "too many small parts flying in close formation" category. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know; I was just kidding about a B-17 being large,

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yes, I know; I was just kidding about a B-17 being large, fast and heavy - I'm a B-52 guy - 488 klb, Mach .77 cruise, etc. 'Course even that's not very fast and heavy now. Wilton - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Cool! A B17 is scheduled to come by town on tour - only $250 for a 25 minute ride. > I spent two hours last week with a friend getting the VIP tour of Boeing's > restored and airworthy B-17 and Seattle's Museum of Flight's B-29. I learned a > lot. > > RLE > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber and tax dodger like certain Dem senators

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
That net of 10% is AFTER the salaries have been paid, including that of the owner -- the 10% is profit, not salary. Back to "Joe" -- UPDATE, Oct. 17: The Wall Street Journal's Jonathan Weisman has more detail on the company Wurzelbacher hope to buy someday: The company, A.W. Newell Inc., wit

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I don't think I ever used that phrase. As a fellow retired military officer, I respect McCain for that part of his life. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> I can't believe you still call him Osama. >> > > Don't forget his main opp

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
Actually, I want Marxism to reflect what Marx actually said. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> Saying you know the Manifesto so know all about Marx is like saying you've >> heard Bush speak on tv so know all there is to know abou

Re: [MBZ] layoffs

2008-10-17 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Well the only person at our office left to lay off for now, got layed > off.  She has been there since '78 and was almost ready to retire > anyway.  They did her right though, she is getting 6 months of severance > pay, plus gets to keep her ins, 401k and so on during that time. > Yessir, th

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: Saying you know the Manifesto so know all about Marx is like saying you've heard Bush speak on tv so know all there is to know about the Constitution. When someone advocates incorporating elements of the Manifesto into government, I think you will find that most people wo

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: I can't believe you still call him Osama. Don't forget his main opponent, McLame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
Saying you know the Manifesto so know all about Marx is like saying you've heard Bush speak on tv so know all there is to know about the Constitution. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> I don't think you've read Marx. >> > > Not ex

Re: [MBZ] which old airplane?

2008-10-17 Thread RELNGSON
> ...B-17 - fast???  Large?  Heavy?  Yeah, I know - it's all relative and for > its > "time." > That was a wrong guess. As I posted earlier today, it's the B-29. And it's significant because of the Enola Gay. I spent two hours last week with a friend getting the VIP tour of Boeing's restor

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: I don't think you've read Marx. Not extensively, but I know the Manifesto. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe o

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I can't believe you still call him Osama. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who gives a shit about Joe the Plumber? > The only thing that matters is what the Candidate(s) said to him. > Any attacks on the guy who asked a tough question are just there to c

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I don't think you've read Marx. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Obama isn't a Marxist. I am not sure you even understand what Marx said >> (wrote). In this case, Marxism is just a scary word that one can throw >> around. >> > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: Obama isn't a Marxist. I am not sure you even understand what Marx said (wrote). In this case, Marxism is just a scary word that one can throw around. Loren's going by Obama state and federal senate records. You're going by his campaign propaganda. My money's on Loren.

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party operations for our books. Now the only way people can place an ad in our books is online. This is nation wide. The people running it now are complete morons I think. You don't know who's in charge of

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber and tax dodger like certain Dem senators

2008-10-17 Thread Loren Faeth
At 08:02 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: My understanding is that Obama said that less than 2% of small businesses bring in more than 250K. http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/internet-abuzz-with-joe-the-plumber/2008/10/17/1223750299721.html As with most things in the media, this is hogwash. Small busin

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber and the slick moron

2008-10-17 Thread Loren Faeth
That we can agree on, at least to be a major party candidate. The election is not over yet. At 09:23 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: Well I guess those are all the qualifications you need for Presidency of the US of A. Hendrik using his middle name all the time, except for when dealing with the G

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
WOW -- welcome aboard. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes - those netting over $250,000 would have their taxes raised from > the current 33% to 36%. That's going stop small businesses? > > Read the details: > http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Factsheet_Tax

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Who gives a shit about Joe the Plumber? The only thing that matters is what the Candidate(s) said to him. Any attacks on the guy who asked a tough question are just there to cover up what Osama said in answering him. I can't believe anybody falls for this shit. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I have a B.A. and a B.S. degree. How much would you like me to work my way up the ladder? Are you looking for an MBA or a PhD? I can think of only a couple of local Obama supporters who are not university educated professionals. My own two children, both Obama supporters, have an M.S. Microbiolog

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Yes - those netting over $250,000 would have their taxes raised from the current 33% to 36%. That's going stop small businesses? Read the details: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Factsheet_Tax_Plan_FINAL.pdf On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $250k is

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber-Fake

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Bob Morrison wrote: Robert A Morrison 223 Buchanan Ave. Kalamazoo, MI Hey Bob, are you the chap who bought Chuck's W116 300SD? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [E

Re: [MBZ] 300D Late Shifting

2008-10-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Check your kick down switch/solenoid. Inspect your control pressure cable and then we'll guess some more. Hendrik LarryT wrote: Wife came home in her W124 91 300D 2.5T this evening and said her car wasn't shifting properly - would rev without shifting. We went for a ride and sure enough, it

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber and the slick moron

2008-10-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well I guess those are all the qualifications you need for Presidency of the US of A. Hendrik using his middle name all the time, except for when dealing with the Government Loren Faeth wrote: Not the way Bama ia 'splaining it. He IS talking gross. But he has no idea that net or gross i

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Before you accuse me of being a liar, I would appreciate that you include some facts to back your statements. Fact: tax havens exist Fact: the wealthy do not pay more tax than they have to and employ the best accountants to ensure this is so Fact: the wealthy are able to set up complex systems t

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas
$250k is not "extremely wealthy." I know lots of professional working couples who have worked hard, got some good education, made some sacrifices along the way, worked up the ladder, and now fall into that category. They are not "extremely wealthy" and it is really not that hard to achieve if

[MBZ] 300D Late Shifting

2008-10-17 Thread LarryT
Wife came home in her W124 91 300D 2.5T this evening and said her car wasn't shifting properly - would rev without shifting. We went for a ride and sure enough, it's shifting at ~4200rpm regardless of throttle position. As we came home it started working properly again - kind of - wasn't shif

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Loren Faeth
Not the way Bama ia 'splaining it. He IS talking gross. But he has no idea that net or gross is. The guy is a moron. A slick moron At 06:13 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: net 250, not gross On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Osama Bama spent today dispa

Re: [MBZ] OT, mouse always clicking twice?

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
That takes REAL talent! Do you have another mouse to try? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yea!!. Well like when trying to activate a pull down menu, it drops, then > goes back up real quick. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sp

Re: [MBZ] OT, mouse always clicking twice?

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea!!. Well like when trying to activate a pull down menu, it drops, then goes back up real quick. OK Don wrote: Regardless of which one it is, it's feature! You're getting TWICE the clicks for your dollar! Wonder if its a vista problem or the mouse if screwed up --

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im in commercial sales, so it doesnt affect me Wonko the Sane wrote: How will that impact you? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party operations for our books. Now the only way people can p

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So how many people do you know who make $6 an hour who have employees and pay them a wage? Wonko the Sane wrote: Wrong. The rich folks have little or NOTHING to do with my paycheck. In fact, most rich folks don't even realize that there are folks like me doing what I do. In fact, they normally

Re: [MBZ] OT, mouse always clicking twice?

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Regardless of which one it is, it's feature! You're getting TWICE the clicks for your dollar! > Wonder if its a vista problem or the mouse if screwed up > -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Allan Streib
"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wrong. The rich folks have little or NOTHING to do with my paycheck. Really? Who does, then? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
exactly. Also, Osama bamo says he will cut taxes for what, 98% of everyone? Correct? I am still waiting for somebody (perhaps wanko) to explain how that is possible when only about 60% of everyone even pay taxes in the first place? The math just does not add up. Allan Streib wrote: "Wonko

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
It's an international market - we EXPORT gas and Diesel! Why do you think that producing here will make gas here cheaper? Only due to greater supply, by whatever percent it would be. We'll still be importing oil to refine from where ever it's cheapest, and exporting to where ever the price is the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > End of the day if you are doing well and making money you'll pay more > tax and once again it is greed rearing it's ugly head. "I wannna earn > big bucks but don't want to pay my share of the tax burden, let some > poor sucker working in a factory pay th

[MBZ] 1974 240D in Michigan

2008-10-17 Thread Bob Morrison
I have been watching this car for three weeks now, just sitting there. I have not contacted the seller; I post this as a service to the group. I hope the link works. http://cid-41b70adc963516a3.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Mercedes%20Benz ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well the only person at our office left to lay off for now, got layed off. She has been there since '78 and was almost ready to retire anyway. They did her right though, she is getting 6 months of severance pay, plus gets to keep her ins, 401k and so on during that time. Christopher McCann w

[MBZ] OT, mouse always clicking twice?

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
For the last several weeks,it seems like when I click on something, it clicks twice. For example, if reading email, and I click on a subject inm thunderbird, by clicking once to highlight the message, it will display in the bottom panel. But, when I click in it, it opens up the message in a n

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
How will that impact you? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party operations > for our books. Now the only way people can place an ad in our books is > online. This is nation wide. The peopl

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber-Fake

2008-10-17 Thread Bob Morrison
HMMM Talk about shooting your own foot. http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/10/16/the-real-meaning-o f-joe-the-plumber.aspx Robert A Morrison 223 Buchanan Ave. Kalamazoo, MI 49001-5326 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
Damn. Well said. Don On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > My understanding is that Obama said that less than 2% of small businesses > bring in more than 250K. > http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/internet-abuzz-with-joe-the-plumber/2008/10/17/1223750299721.html

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
Wrong. The rich folks have little or NOTHING to do with my paycheck. In fact, most rich folks don't even realize that there are folks like me doing what I do. In fact, they normally insulate themselves from it. Look, I have nothing against the rich. I'd like to be there myself, and considered myse

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Jim Cathey
...wants to cut off the tax breaks of the extremely wealthy (many of whom pay little or no taxes because they have a CPA on staff). So do I. We just disagree radically on the best way to ensure that everybody's sharing the load equitably. To The Galaxy four book trilogy -- and two shelves of

Re: [MBZ] OT Trailers

2008-10-17 Thread Jim Cathey
It was originally purchased to tow behind a first generation Saturn SL2, but he found the combo unpleasant to drive. The trailer weighs about 1100lb, so I couldn't figure out why it would be any worse than towing a 700-800lb of Hobie Cat and trailer behind a Plymouth Horizon. It's all about ba

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed Plumber and tax dodger

2008-10-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
My understanding is that Obama said that less than 2% of small businesses bring in more than 250K. http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/internet-abuzz-with-joe-the-plumber/2008/10/17/1223750299721.html Further, apparently 'Joe the plumper' does not have a license and doesn't like paying taxes "With

Re: [MBZ] fly by wire

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
B-17 - fast??? Large? Heavy? Yeah, I know - it's all relative and for its "time." Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] fly by wire > Certainly not the B-17! > > > > > A

Re: [MBZ] Here's a MB I have never seen before

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
The SLC, with the extra 7" (?) would be very nice to that. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> It's a 116 450SEL wagon. I want it. >>> http://tiny.cc/XBIu1 > > Cool. I always thought a 107 would also make a nice > el-Camino conversion, or perhaps a tiny he

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Allan Streib
"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Obama isn't a Marxist. I am not sure you even understand what Marx > said (wrote). In this case, Marxism is just a scary word that one can > throw around. > > Obama is a Progressive who wants to cut off the tax breaks of the > extremely wealthy (many

Re: [MBZ] Airbus crashes

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
The major difficulty in writing code is getting sufficient and accurate requirements/specs from the customer. Most run the "I'll know it when I see it" basis. Costs LOTS of money (and in this case, lives) to go back and fix what they didn't ask for. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Jim Cathey <[EM

Re: [MBZ] fly by wire

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Certainly not the B-17! > > And, a certain large heavy fast high flyer in the past (and has had an effect > on all of us) had an all manual control system with the yoke and rudder > pedals connected to the control surfaces by cables and unboosted. Control > efforts > were light and harmonized. >

Re: [MBZ] interference

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
The FCC has limits for how much RF can escape a laptop -- Having three to four PCs running in the "radio shack", and trying to work distant and low powered stations, I hear when one is exceeding it's emissions, and it's always been a desktop, never a laptop. Now, the touch pad on my laptop is rathe

Re: [MBZ] gas prices - raising food in cities

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Whoa -- you've converted Debbie? > Ten pounds of potatoes is a couple of bucks. As > vegetarians, we eat lots of that sort of stuff. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '9

Re: [MBZ] Medical helicopters crashes

2008-10-17 Thread OK Don
Shouldn't have been either -- no idea why. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maintenance or budget issues? Or both? > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:21 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullf

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I like you, Loren. You are an extremely intelligent individual (in spades). You are a nice guy, even if your idea of a perfect meal is a face first dive into an all-you-can-eat at Hickory Park (which does *not* offer a vegetarian option). That said, I think you are totally incorrect in what you wr

Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD

2008-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
ALL: I got another attack of sluggishness in DC near the Jefferson Memorial after some high speed driving on I-395 coming back into town. This time, it lasted a good mile and nearly 10 minutes of driving at 10 mpg before self-correcting. I took the car to a local Auto Haus and they changed my fue

Re: [MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Christopher McCann
Sister in law got laid off yesterday - flooring industry - been at that company for ten years. CM "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party operations for our books. Now the only way people can place an ad in our books i

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Gary Hurst
net 250, not gross On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Osama Bama spent today disparaging plumbers, and ordinary Americans in > general. He insinuated that no plumber could ever gross 250k a year. It is > quite obvious the Bama bum has never worked a day in

[MBZ] OT, my company lays off a ton more people

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Apparantly they are completely shutting down their private party operations for our books. Now the only way people can place an ad in our books is online. This is nation wide. The people running it now are complete morons I think. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread ernest breakfield
wild; it's still almost twice that here in the SF Bay Area,... but how much cheaper is that than the average around there now? i find it remarkable at how long people will sit in line to save a total of a few cents/G for a max total of a few $/tank,... cheers! e Rolf wrote: No shitting

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Loren Faeth
I truly think it is past time for the so called democrat party to own up to what it is, the socialist, Marxist, or communist party. I don't understand why they are so afraid to stand up for what they really want. IF it was so good, they should be able to get elected, in place of all the subv

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
Thank you!!! 'Found it!! 'Finally able to interpret for myself what he REALLY said without the typical Party spin BS. Thank you! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Loren Faeth
Osama Bama spent today disparaging plumbers, and ordinary Americans in general. He insinuated that no plumber could ever gross 250k a year. It is quite obvious the Bama bum has never worked a day in his life and has no idea what it takes to run a business. This elietist Marxist prick is gett

[MBZ] HF welder

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Got a coupon for this thing for $97. Is it worth messing with? I would just use it to weld various car parts or whatever, floorboards and what not. http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94056 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D,

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, it should be right around $2 right now. Rich Thomas wrote: Oil prices half what they were 3 months ago, if the run up reflects the run down (yeah right), then $2 or so would be about right. --R Gary Hurst wrote: that is stranger than strange as high twos is the going price everywhere ar

Re: [MBZ] 190D status

2008-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will have to look at my 3 190's to see Jim Cathey wrote: It doesnt have the bucket, it should have the long screw thing that sticks down in one of the lug holes and screws in the bottom of the spare tire well Through a lug hole and not the center hole with the plug removed? I've never seen

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-17 Thread Bill R
The actual dialogue was played on NPR late this morning - you can no doubt download the understandable version there, and maybe even a printout [I have not looked.] As you might expect, the characterization of Obama's words are about as accurate as was the description of 'Joe the Plumber.' It so

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread LarryT
We're in the $2.45 range for regular - wasn't that long ago the morons who read the nes said we'd never see $3 gas again. ;-\ All it took was the threat to look for our own gas - even though the democrats fought it (and continue to fight it) -- even though the offshore legislation expired the

[MBZ] FS: W123 Round Euro Headlight, a gaggle of euro headlight lenses

2008-10-17 Thread Rolf
One pass side round euro headlight $60+shipping 5 X mix of pass and driver round euro headlight glass, $40 w/shipping buy 2 for $70 w/ship. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMA

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Rolf
No I went to this : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pts/878612495.html , There is a thread on mshop (http://mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=235391) about stuff I didn't pick up. You guys should go up there and offer $1k for everything upstairs. I'd bet they'd do it for that or a bit more.

Re: [MBZ] another W124 question

2008-10-17 Thread Luther
Is that with the door open or closed? If the door is closed, the key must be on. If the door is open, you can move the seats anytime. My '83SD was this way, and currently my '86SD is also. Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: Mine doesn't seem to work unless the key is turned on. But I can reach

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Oil prices half what they were 3 months ago, if the run up reflects the run down (yeah right), then $2 or so would be about right. --R Gary Hurst wrote: that is stranger than strange as high twos is the going price everywhere around, at least it was yesterday. a great sign though. you live u

Re: [MBZ] Important aircraft direct controls

2008-10-17 Thread RELNGSON
> > ...U2 or SR-71?... > > > Do you honestly think either of those has manual flight controls, boosted or > not? Ohmygoodness. > > Wrong. It's the Boeing B-29. > RLE ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it

Re: [MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Gary Hurst
that is stranger than strange as high twos is the going price everywhere around, at least it was yesterday. a great sign though. you live up in buford, rolf? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No shitting. Saw it at the Marathon on ptree industrial in Buford. Lin

[MBZ] $1.90 gas

2008-10-17 Thread Rolf
No shitting. Saw it at the Marathon on ptree industrial in Buford. Line was wrapped around the building and then the block. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] another W124 question

2008-10-17 Thread Luther
Like children? :D Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: You shouldn't play with things in the dark. Sometimes has unintended consequences. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Don't know about "potato stick", but there are 3 seat

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread Zoltan Finks
Good point. My tires look almost just like the Spectrums though. Brian On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, ernest breakfield < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK; i was just curious, because i thought i read that yours had whitewalls, > and i don't see that as an option for any of the tires on that li

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: those are some righteous looking tires. And I got a $50 rebate on them, so 195/65HR15 netted out to about $260 delivered, installed, and balanced. (bought from Tire Rack, went to Wal-Mart with back seat and trunk full of tires) If I sell the Achieva I can put the old junk

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread ernest breakfield
OK; i was just curious, because i thought i read that yours had whitewalls, and i don't see that as an option for any of the tires on that link,... cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: The CRV is away from the house again, along with the paperwork. But I can tell you that the tires I bought are es

Re: [MBZ] another W124 question

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Sposed to work with door open and key off. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another W124 question > Mine doesn't seem to work unless the key is turned on. Bu

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread Zoltan Finks
> > Wow, Mitch, those are some righteous looking tires. So I wonder, how do you know when your driving is being limited by hydroplaning? That sounds like knowing that the food youre eating is not poisoned. This reminds me of an incident I had in my 68 Coronet back as a teenager. It had some use

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread Zoltan Finks
The CRV is away from the house again, along with the paperwork. But I can tell you that the tires I bought are essentially the same as the Spectrum model shown in this link sent by Mitch. In fact theyre probably what I have. http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires.asp?category=passenger Brian On Fr

Re: [MBZ] A little Tire Wonder

2008-10-17 Thread ernest breakfield
did we ever determine what tires we're talking about? (not that i wouldn't necessarily believe the sales guys,... ) cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: Ah yes. I believe i have learnt something about tires today. The guy told me over the phone that the grooves on the other side of the tire go the

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Either the rods bend in service or they don't. No way to tell by looking, all you get is suddenly seriously increasing oil consumption and soon loose piston noise as the cylinder wears oval from the twisted rod. The 3.0L 603 will also bend rods, but I believe that is usually a bad head g

Re: [MBZ] OT Trailers

2008-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: There was an article in today's automotive section in the Charleston paper about something called an A-frame trailer, fairly small and a pop-up gable thing. I'll see if I can find the article online, or if someone is interested I could scan it and send it along. Sounds lik

[MBZ] OT Trailers

2008-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas
There was an article in today's automotive section in the Charleston paper about something called an A-frame trailer, fairly small and a pop-up gable thing. I'll see if I can find the article online, or if someone is interested I could scan it and send it along. --R _

Re: [MBZ] another W124 question

2008-10-17 Thread LarryT
Howdy - The seat controls are supposed to work when the drivers door is opened and without the key in the ignition. Same for the steering wheel adjustment - The owners manual explains the situations when the controls are operable. I wish I had the memory seat controls - there are 2 small butt

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Yesterday I parked next to this nice looking big Benz, a young woman was getting into it so I asked her about it. Turns out it was a 91 350SDL (no badges) she was running veggie oil in. We talked a bit about that, I suggesting that doing that was really not a good idea, she mentioned every no

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