Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up in Cuba?

2008-10-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah I know that 'rule of law' thing is a bummer, especially when the US has to set up a concentration camp in Cuba (of all places, perhaps they put it on an old disused missile site) and then kidnap people from all over the world and torture them there. Apparently a couple of Oz citizens where

[MBZ] Oz watchdogs howl over 'Cyber-Safety' net filter

2008-10-19 Thread Archer
Aussie civil liberties watchdogs are warning the country's Cyber-Safety internet filter plan won't actually let adults choose to opt-out from web censorship. The Australian Labor party's $125.8m proposal is being pitched as a means to prevent children from accessing online pornography. The

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
So MB hasn't offered to share the costs of a new engine in any circumstance? Sorry - that's really pretty funny isn't it? ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: So MB hasn't offered to share the costs of a new engine in any circumstance? I'm sure if you bought it new, and it was 5 years old, and the dealer argued your case for you... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
Harry asks Wouldn't an oil analysis give a clue about rod bending With the symptoms Peter describes (see below) it happens so suddenly that I'm wondering if there's any advance notice. As far as the rod bending, would the rod loose parts of itself as it bends? Plus, if it happens so

Re: [MBZ] B-29

2008-10-19 Thread LWB250
The recon version only had a top turret, bottom turret, and tail gunner. The bomb bay stuffed with camera gear, and in place of a bombardier, there was a crewman to operate the cameras. I've got a picture somewhere of Dad and his crew standing in front of all the camera gear that's set up on

Re: [MBZ] B-29

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
weren't the guns connected by a crude computer that allowed several guns to track one bogey - and if the bogey was caught in the crosshairs it was a goner? is that correct? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday,

[MBZ] OT: Who's in Oregon?

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Does Kevin or any other Oregon lister want a great set of $1000 speakers for $100? If these things were about 1500 miles closer to me... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260301139557 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 9:24 AM -0400 10/19/08, LarryT wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? He doesn't want people thinking he's a Republican. :-} -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? Because he thinks it's idiotic to pin a flag on your collar and call yourself a Patriot? Or because the lapel pin seems to be a symbol of Washington's War On Terror, Irag, and Afghanistan? And as the Agent Of Change, Barry

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
plus, he's not an american anyway On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:48 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: At 9:24 AM -0400 10/19/08, LarryT wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? He doesn't want people thinking he's a Republican. :-} -MMM-

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
barry loves the war. i just think it's that he's not an american On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? Because he thinks it's idiotic to pin a flag on your collar and call yourself a

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread Peter Frederick
This is exactly the issue, although the rod will probably continue to bend and twist until the cylinder had no compression. It cannot be predicted, oil analysis isn't going to help much, and it makes people jumpy about these engines, as even one with several hundred thousand good miles may

Re: [MBZ] B-29

2008-10-19 Thread Peter Frederick
That was the theory -- all were remote operated, but the system was troublesome -- i.e. in Battle of Kansas none of them worked. Even when they got them operational, it was fairly easy to move the controls too quickly and lose the relationship between control position and gun position.

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Peter is correct. Oil analysis depends on something to be dissolved or suspended in the oil to be measured. And think of a bending rod just like crinkling up a piece of aluminum foil. In both cases, you loose no metal. You may be able to see a rise in diesel fuel or soot in the oil as blow by

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
Dave wrote If either one wins we will all be paying more taxes I fear you're right Dave. Trouble is, we have a Democrat running against a socialist. And McCains recent reversals on some issues are as troubling a obamas claims that are in opposition to his past voting record. I don't like

[MBZ] Tax Free Status

2008-10-19 Thread LarryT
Howdy -- Aren't organizations that receive tax free status obligated to refrain from supporting one political group or another, or even making political statements? I seem to recall they must be politically neutral - ? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil

Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Howdy -- Aren't organizations that receive tax free status obligated to refrain from supporting one political group or another, or even making political statements? If they take tax deductible contributions, like a 501(c)(3) charity, they sure can't engage in politics. I

[MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well for cleaning and polishing previously-neglected paint. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/300E-1/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to

Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
That is my understanding (and I work for one). Makes me wonder how churches can get away with preaching politics from the pulpit. We had a letter to the editor in Thursday's paper written by a local minister, citing scripture on why a Christian absolutely had to vote for McCain. He signed it with

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Nice - makes me miss mine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] new 300E pics Freshly

Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It was 3.28 when I left tulsa friday. Who know what it will be when I return monday. Christopher McCann wrote: Two friends called me today. One to report that he spotted diesel for $2.92 and another to report $3.34. Meanwhile, the station 1 block away is $3.64, which is still down from last

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There was no civil war in the US, what are you talking about? Hendrik Fay wrote: OK lets look at Lincoln, it's been a while since I studied the civil war but to simplify it, Lincoln had three choices, one appease the separatists and let the south keep slavery in place, two let the union

[MBZ] 1986 300SDL for sale / trade

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
I’ve made a similar offer to the group before. I am interested in trading my 300SDL for a 123 body 240D with a manual transmission or an early 70’s 220D with manual or I would sell the car to someone making a reasonable offer (over $1,000). If you make an offer, I’ll sit on it for a couple of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have noticed him wearing it lately. LarryT wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
i got screwed Wonko the Sane wrote: Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well for cleaning and polishing previously-neglected paint. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/300E-1/ No virus found in

Re: [MBZ] layoffs

2008-10-19 Thread Allan Streib
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people never go into business for themself - one of the primary reasons given it lack of security -- at times like this, it's easy to see how little security there is working for others. Here's one I like, on this topic...

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
No you didn't - you sold the car for what it was worth, just like any other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:04 AM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Loren Faeth
If you mean Teddy Roosevelt, I agree! TR, Winston Churchill and Patton were all great leaders and knew how to get things done. Two politically and one militarily. IF you mean the socialist FDR, you are wrong. The first problem with this country was changing the constitution to allow the

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread harry watkins
Larry What you and Peter are saying assumes that its an instantaneous , or at least fairly rapid failure. I'm not sure that's a given. I know nothing beyond what I have read on these diesel sites, but my take has been that it occurs more slowly. Anyway, it was just a thought, good luck if

Re: [MBZ] layoffs

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've been self employed for 7.5 years and security or at least perceived security is definitely an issue. The biggest battle was my Wife - she stated; What about vacation - how will you replace your 3 weeks vacation? It took several years to convince her that vacation is not a gift from the

Re: [MBZ] More BS - magnets

2008-10-19 Thread Allan Streib
Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scammers in Raleigh have convinced Wake County officials to try magnets around fleet's fuel lines to improve efficiency by 22% to 33%. And we think government officials can manage the economy? Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread harry watkins
Thanks Tom, you made my point. You may be able to see a rise in diesel fuel or soot in the oil as blow by increases or increased iron in the oil from the cylinder wall wear but by the time you measure these, the damage is done - the cylinder has already started to wear egg shape the rings are

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Robert Rentfro
Looks good. Maybe I'll try that Turtle Wax on the old Mustard Mobile. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] new 300E pics Freshly washed

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There was no civil war in the US, what are you talking about? We've had two full blown revolutions, one successful, one failed. Then the Republic was overthrown in a mostly bloodless coup over the last 90 years or so. Some blame it on the passage of Amendment XVI,

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well for cleaning and polishing previously-neglected paint. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/300E-1/ Hey, nice. That looks just like my $500 POS 300E, except

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Rolf
Was it a war of Northern Aggression then? From the state where they can't teach about the war of Northern Aggression. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There was no civil war in the US, what are you talking about? Hendrik Fay wrote: OK lets look at Lincoln, it's been a while since I studied

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Looking good. How many miles on it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] new 300E pics Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really

Re: [MBZ] More BS - magnets

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
And we should leave the economy to the scammers instead? Not all governement is incompetent, as not all businesses are scammers, thoughit can be argued that most of both are. We are between a rock and a hard place --- Scammers in Raleigh have convinced Wake County officials to try magnets

Re: [MBZ] 1990 350SDL

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
Marshall reported that in a few cases, owners were able to force MB to replace the engines, though they were rare. I'm sure if you bought it new, and it was 5 years old, and the dealer argued your case for you... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
I noticed the low camera angle (Don is taller than that!) - clear coat peeling on the roof? Hey, nice. That looks just like my $500 POS 300E, except for the peeling clearcoat on mine! (Wonder what would happen if I used some mild polish like the TurtleWax stuff on the exposed color coat,

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
If you did, it's your own fault - again! Did you REALLY trade an MB for a VW ? On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got screwed -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
Why would anyone notice or care? Mindless, lock-step nationalism? On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:24 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why does obama refuse to wear the US flag lapel pin? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Luther
So, by my count, you've been screwed by OK Don (the 300D 2.5), Lt Don (300E), and myself (SDL). I could name a few that you (or someone you know) has screwed Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: i got screwed Wonko the Sane wrote: Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well

Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status

2008-10-19 Thread John Freer
There is an organization recently that is asking various preachers to test this IRS ruling. IMHO, the only folks hurt by this test will be the church members who's contributions will be funneled to the attorneys to test the law. John On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
unbridled murderous aggression led by a deformed psychotic with water on the brain. popular in certain small pockets in the north and australia, however, places where neither rule of law nor free speech exist. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was it a war of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
TR was another warmonger, but a very cool and fun guy. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If you mean Teddy Roosevelt, I agree! TR, Winston Churchill and Patton were all great leaders and knew how to get things done. Two politically and one militarily.

Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
those churches are really the ones who put dubya over both times. this time, however, it seems they and radio fans are the only supporters left On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is my understanding (and I work for one). Makes me wonder how

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
He traded a 25 mpg car (gas) for a 45 mpg car (diesel). On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you did, it's your own fault - again! Did you REALLY trade an MB for a VW ? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
216,872 miles. Car isn't perfect (ding on right front fender, peeling clear coat on hood and roof, etc.) but I should get a few good years out of it, at a minimum. I love the ACC and will until it breaks someday and I have to start replacing parts. My theory is to shine up any metal that will

[MBZ] Obama not born here another view

2008-10-19 Thread M G
What do you guys think of this video? I have heard the claims before but never with all these details. http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_video_that_could_change_the_election/ Manfred __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam

Re: [MBZ] Obama not born here another view

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
M G wrote: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_video_that_could_change_the_election/ That's the interview with Phil Berg that I linked yesterday. Berg is widely regarded as a nutcase, but that nutcase is an experienced prosecuting attorney licensed to practice before the US Supreme Court,

Re: [MBZ] Obama not born here another view

2008-10-19 Thread Rick Knoble
What do you guys think of this video? If true, the law will be changed and after four years of BHO, we will get the Governator as POTUS. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] A mistake, I think

2008-10-19 Thread RELNGSON
Germany?  Really?  'Didn't know B-29's ever went to Europe before the end of the war. I think I'd better do a recheck on that. The mission number is correct but I was thinking of the B-17's theatre of action. RLE ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your

Re: [MBZ] B-29

2008-10-19 Thread RELNGSON
...'Just read a note on Wiki that it was briefly evaluated in England/Europe, it seems mainly to make Nazis think it was gonna be deployed there.  Is the Serial # of the museum one 41-36393, maybe... I can find out about that. Anyway, I think I got it wrong in re: where it was used. RLE

Re: [MBZ] 240D brakes - again

2008-10-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I presume Rusty carries the grease... I decided on the 5 hour ride back from camp yesterday that I'm going to give it a shot. IIRC there was some deal where you used like 3/4 of 1 wheel worth of grease on the bearing itself and put the rest in the cap... Also, do I need to order new seals while

Re: [MBZ] B-29 photo posting

2008-10-19 Thread RELNGSON
In re: serial number. In one of my photos the number 229782 is painted on the fin which may or not mean anything. I took a lot of photos of the two airplanes and want to make them available on a free (of course) site and am trying to create a slideshow on Photobucket but the site is so

Re: [MBZ] gun control

2008-10-19 Thread RELNGSON
...weren't the guns connected by a crude computer that allowed several guns to track one bogey - and if the bogey was caught in the crosshairs it was a goner? is that correct?... Crude by today's standards but exotic for 1941. The computer factored in a number of things to provide a

Re: [MBZ] B-29 photo posting

2008-10-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
# on vertical stabilizer should be the serial # - at least part of it. First digit is often left off, but if it's 42-29782, it still seems high. That's llikely it, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:35 PM

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Bill R
Are you wearing your lapel pin all the time? Personally I don't have one. Does that make me un-American? The two kids I have in the military [the third is out now] would disagree. I agree with many economists that the redistribution of wealth in the past 8 years - some hundreds of billions of $

[MBZ] Oz and US forms of government

2008-10-19 Thread Archer
One of the great POTUS was Roosevelt, very cunning and always did what he considered to be best for the US. Can we say the same for the current crop of people running and wanting to run the US? Hendrik --- If the Australian and the U.S. governments were

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Scott Ritchey
IMHO, in the real world when governments try to redistribute wealth either (a) the rich get richer and the poor get poorer or (b) the entire economy goes in the dumper so the rich leave and the poor get poorer. I suspect a great deal of the current economic mess is a direct result of politicians

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
The greatest wealth redistribution system this country has seen to date is the Earned Income Credit program. And because of Earned Income Credit, funds are pulled from the Northern States and handed to the Southern States one poor mother at a time. It's so bad that because of Earned Income Credit,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread OK Don
They don't do math very well, do they -- they'd be far better off working in a better job than keeping the earned income credit. Same with TANF, etc. I place the blame on the parents who didn't value a good education. No, it's not the schools fault - it's the parents. But the damage runs even

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War This is the one, perhaps you call it the Northern war of aggression or something else but most people call it the American civil war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There was no civil war in the US, what

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is John Sidney McCain a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Redghost
At the time McCain was born in Panama, the CZ was considered US soil, as was the hospital he was born in. No real question about citizenship, unlike the colored boy clay On Oct 18, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: John Freer wrote: So what US State was McCain born in? Answer: he

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Redghost
I agree, Teddy was a superior president. That franklin fellow as a disaster clay On Oct 18, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: One of the great POTUS was Roosevelt, very cunning and always did what he considered to be best for the US. Can we say the same for the current crop of people

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Absolutely, it all starts with the parents!!! Too many parents don't give a damned about teaching their children good manners, how to behave, communicate well with others, respect for others and their property, the need for an education or even to pull up their pants to a decent level!!! Wilton

[MBZ] Fwd: OT: Is John Sidney McCain a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread John Freer
I guess there must be something wrong with my ISP. Could have sworn that kind of slang belongs on Banned or anywhere else but this List. Clay, that ain't funny. John On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the time McCain was born in Panama, the CZ was considered

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is John Sidney McCain a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yep, that's why it was called Canal Zone - US territory. One of my neices was born in US Naval Hospital, Subic Bay Naval Base (US territory), The Phillipines. US flag out front; her father a member of US Navy - no question about her American citizenship. ] Wilton - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The Plumber

2008-10-19 Thread Allan Streib
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes - those netting over $250,000 would have their taxes raised from the current 33% to 36%. That's going stop small businesses? TANSTAAFL -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question

2008-10-19 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:38:28 -0700, ernest wrote: succinct, perhaps, but questionable... it's not likely that anyones first stop of the day is going to be when doing 70 in traffic, I do - if I roll through the stop sign 0.1 miles from the end of my driveway. 25 miles to the

[MBZ] OT:Bernanke Is Fighting the Last War

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Bernanke Is Fighting the Last War By BRIAN M. CARNEY New York 'Everything works much better when wrong decisions are punished and good decisions make you rich. On Aug. 9, 2007, central banks around the world first intervened to stanch what has become a massive credit crunch. Since then,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Redghost
What is this profit crap? Taxable income over 250K is not profit. Just because you were able to have an income and not enough deductions does not make your income profit. I am pretty sure I am using my share of the income to provide healthcare to my family, education, housing,

Re: [MBZ] OT:Bernanke Is Fighting the Last War

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
I copied and pasted that article from a blog, and the Jesse comments placed within it are written by the blogger. Sorry for the confusion. http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin

2008-10-19 Thread Redghost
I am for wealth accumulation through hard labor. If you do not labor, you do not accumulate wealth, and therefore must depend upon the kindness of strangers who will not give you enough to get through the month without your having to labor. If you do not work, you do not eat, and then you

[MBZ] OT: Back from camp

2008-10-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Just returned from our second yearly week at camp. Dad and I own 85 acres in northern Maine with a little 1 room camp on it. Twice a year my folks and my wife and I manage to not kill each other living in one room for a week. This trip was the first with the new dog and he worked out just fine.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is John Sidney McCain a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm shocked that you said that. what company i keep! On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the time McCain was born in Panama, the CZ was considered US soil, as was the hospital he was born in. No real question about citizenship, unlike the colored boy clay

[MBZ] W124 trip odometer

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Stopped for fuel this afternoon. Before pulling away (but with car not in motion, don't even think the transmission was in D yet) I reset the trip odometer. All digits flipped to 0 except for the 10ths, which went past 0 and halfway to 9. Doesn't concern me that the trip odometer isn't working

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, a civil war is a war where at least 2 different sides are fighting over control over a country. In this case, the south wanted to completely start their own, not control the whole thing. So calling it the civil war is really not accurate. Rolf wrote: Was it a war of Northern

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, thats was pretty stupid on my part. I would have probably got more money for the 300E than if I go to sell the vw. OK Don wrote: If you did, it's your own fault - again! Did you REALLY trade an MB for a VW ? On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I get screwed all the time. Luther wrote: So, by my count, you've been screwed by OK Don (the 300D 2.5), Lt Don (300E), and myself (SDL). I could name a few that you (or someone you know) has screwed Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: i got screwed Wonko the Sane wrote: Freshly washed and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Back from camp

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think I need to buy some land up in Maine, its pretty cheap. Curt Raymond wrote: Just returned from our second yearly week at camp. Dad and I own 85 acres in northern Maine with a little 1 room camp on it. Twice a year my folks and my wife and I manage to not kill each other living in one

Re: [MBZ] W124 trip odometer

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its tricky. It didnt used to work at all, I pulled it apart and fixed it. You have to push the botton several times, and sometimes it helps to actually be moving. Wonko the Sane wrote: Stopped for fuel this afternoon. Before pulling away (but with car not in motion, don't even think the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Back from camp

2008-10-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I think I need to buy some land up in Maine, its pretty cheap. And if you own land there, you can spend more time with Regina's family. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
You came out about $100 ahead, since you took the jack out of the 300E while you were moving stuff from the 300E to the Quantum. But that is okay -- I prefer a bottle jack anyway. Fixed the dash lights today. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yea, thats

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea I had to since there was no jack in the 190, in the event of a flat. I can send you one if you want Wonko the Sane wrote: You came out about $100 ahead, since you took the jack out of the 300E while you were moving stuff from the 300E to the Quantum. But that is okay -- I prefer a bottle

Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Naw, if I *cared* I would have said something when you took it. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yea I had to since there was no jack in the 190, in the event of a flat. I can send you one if you want -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-19 Thread Luther
DO NOT use the Lucas. My '82 300CD's previous owner did that because they (and it was confirmed by the MB stealership) thought that the trans was in need of a rebuild. The trans would slip out of first and second gears from a stop at anything more than light-moderate throttle. Once it was

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
So will my 240D if the engine is warmed up. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This coupe will bark the tires on the 1-2 shift! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-19 Thread Luther
Sure, but when is the last time you did a few donuts in a local dirt road intersection??? :) It's a 240, NOT your 300E :) Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: So will my 240D if the engine is warmed up. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This coupe will bark the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
isn't wikipedia supposed to be against biased propaganda? On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War This is the one, perhaps you call it the Northern war of aggression or something else but most people call it the

Re: [MBZ] Obama not born here another view

2008-10-19 Thread Luther
This the same fellow that the article I posted from www thebulletin us was taken from. This is also the web link that kept getting my outgoing emails refused... I'm personally very curious as to the outcome of this, but any smart person can make a very compelling case with bullfeces. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Guess they are waiting for your thoughtful insights about deformed Presidents doing deranged things. Hendrik Gary Hurst wrote: isn't wikipedia supposed to be against biased propaganda? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?

2008-10-19 Thread Gary Hurst
he is not deformed: physically, mentally and spiritually? On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Guess they are waiting for your thoughtful insights about deformed Presidents doing deranged things. Hendrik Gary Hurst wrote: isn't wikipedia supposed to be

[MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement

2008-10-19 Thread Luther
I have been playing with this link ( *http://tinyurl.com/5szzc4*or *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *) from thebulletin *dot* us for most of the last 24 hours. If I simply try send just the www thebulletin us (with '.' added in correctly) as an address to be clicked on or copied/pasted

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up inCuba?

2008-10-19 Thread Scott Ritchey
The US Civil War was about more than slavery. At that time the main federal tax was import duties. The south, having little ability to manufacture goods paid a very disproportionate share of these taxes while the north made a lot of their own stuff and didn't need many imports. Lincoln's

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Well back around Christmas Angie had to drive home (about 10 miles) in first gear as the trans wouldn't shift up at all. I drained some out and put in the Lucas, I figured I had nothing to lose at that point. I ran it around the neighborhood some (still in first) and put it to bed. On Christmas

Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement

2008-10-19 Thread Rick Knoble
I would like everyone's thoughts on this before I call. Thanks, Luther Just seeing if I can get it through my ISP... http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20168225BRD=2737PAG=461dept_id=576361rfi=8 Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___

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