Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D

2008-12-14 Thread barry Stark
Douglas - I've been thinking about this and the first thing you may want to check is to verify if your servo is moving at all. A real good check is to turn your engine on and run it for a few minutes then shut it off and listen to see if you can hear the servo returning to the park position. If

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: It's 4.30pm on Sunday here and yes we are ahead in time. The day starts somewhere just to the west of Hawaii. My computer altered your timestamp to 1:00 AM, USA EST (the same time zone our stock market and our Capitol are in). If you sent it at 16:30, then you are 15 1/2

Re: [MBZ] Socialism

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: I've had the wrench slip a few times while working on cars, but I can tell you what, I'm enough of a wuzz that I'd reach for the electric tape or Crazyglue long before I'd start searching around for the home sewing kit! Here's a nice wrench slip. I punched the edge of a mcpherson

Re: [MBZ] Socialism

2008-12-14 Thread E M
You did a fine job Mitch. I think you missed your calling at med school. :-) Probably just as good you don't work full time at a garage though. hee hee. ;-) That did come out a lot cleaner than a lot of stitch jobs I've seen. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net E M wrote: I've

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Except for Newfie time -- Newfoundland is only 1/2 hour ahead of Atlantic time -- it was a blast to hear the CBC broadcast times --- yada yada yada 8 am Atlantic and 7:30 in Newfoundland, etc. Peter On Dec 14, 2008, at 6:21 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: It's 4.30pm on Sunday

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
If you mean the W124 (I don't think there is an S124!) it's not too bad, but a pain. On the W126 (the other option), they go in from the bottom, and are easy. Peter On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Hendrik Fay wrote: It's 4.30pm on Sunday here and yes we are ahead in time. The day starts

[MBZ] A Touching Christmas Story

2008-12-14 Thread MG
Just so you know. Seems everyone can have a bad day some time. Manfred A Touching Christmas Story A Christmas Story for people having a bad day: When four of Santa's elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the

Re: [MBZ] Socialism

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: You did a fine job Mitch. I think you missed your calling at med school. :-) Probably just as good you don't work full time at a garage though. hee hee. ;-) 20-22 years ago I did. First at a Honda Motorcycle dealer, then at a Saab indy. These days, when I'm working in the

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: If you mean the W124 (I don't think there is an S124!) W= sedan S= wagon C= coupe Anybody remember what the above letters stand for? I believe in the model names, T= Turnier, as in 300TD? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
In that case, jack the car up in the rear and support on jack stands. There are four mounts, the front ones go in one way, the rears the other. You will need to drop the exhaust (not remove, just lower). You may need to remove the speed sensor at the differential to prevent pulling the

Re: [MBZ] Socialism

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: Interesting read but more left wing loony stuff no doubt http://allcountries.org/health/usa_health_care_2008_nyt.html It appears to be fact-based, despite being originally published in one of those left wing wacko rags. (but I have no ready source for data to confirm or

[MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Savage
Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: If you mean the W124 (I don't think there is an S124!) W= sedan S= wagon C= coupe Anybody remember what the above letters stand for? I don't know about S and C, but W means Werksbezeichnung, or factory name. The LWB sedan variants and the R Class

Re: [MBZ] TImezones - was: I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape,

2008-12-14 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:21:30 -0500, Mitch wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: It's 4.30pm on Sunday here and yes we are ahead in time. The day starts somewhere just to the west of Hawaii. My computer altered your timestamp to 1:00 AM, USA EST (the same time zone our stock market

Re: [MBZ] updated my web site today

2008-12-14 Thread Bill R
I bet you were a lot warmer in the Winter, also. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] updated my web site

[MBZ] Original Smart car design

2008-12-14 Thread Redghost
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[MBZ] lubricants

2008-12-14 Thread Donald Snook
What is the best lubricant/grease to use on door hinges? The driver's door on my Cadillac is squealing like crazy when I open the door when it is cold. The door opens fine, it just makes a terrible squeal. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread E M
We had a couple in our family, including a wagon. Ok, build quality wasn't anything great, but then again, a Datson 510 was nothing to write home about. As for Honda, I don't remember anything wearing that name tag at the time having doors on it. All of our Pintos were dark green, the wagon had

Re: [MBZ] Original Smart car design

2008-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:50:17 -0800 Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081214 /95996aa3/attachment.jpg So, what is it? Where do I get one? :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] lubricants

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
What is the best lubricant/grease to use on door hinges? Chassis grease. But a shot of WD-40 is way better than nothing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the sub-frame bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Hendrik Fay
Thanks for the info Peter, how does one check the condition of the diff mounts in car? Also according to the official MB line on sub-frame removal the exhaust has to come out, part of the SLS has to go, blah blah blah, fuel lines, more blah blah blah. Personally I'd be more inclined to remove

[MBZ] approximate cost of OM603 valve job?

2008-12-14 Thread Christopher McCann
1. Can the valves on the OM603 be ground? I think some valves cannot be ground. 2. If they can, what is the approximate cost of a valve job for this engine? Thanks! Chris '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt

Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 and fix it with duct tape, now 4sale for 5K and do the subframe bushes need attention

2008-12-14 Thread Hendrik Fay
Don't forget the humble A124, the T has been a bone of contention, some believe it stands for touring and other believe in tourist. Turnier is German for tournament and more historically jousting.

Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread Kevin Kraly
We've had many pinto wagons in the family, and also, we had a couple Murcury Bobcat hatchbacks. They included a brown '72 Wagon with the automatic, 100% dependable but SLOW, a blue '74 wagon, parts donor for the '72, orange '78 with primered orange front end since it had been

Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread LWB250
I drove a 71-1/2 Pinto Fastback (the one with the big back window) as the third in the chain of hand-me-downs through the family. Dad bought it new for Mom, big brother got it next, then I got it. It was in good shape when I got it, despite my brother having owned it (not a car person) and I

Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread Kevin Kraly
Was this the one with the totally glass hatch with the handle bolted to the window to lift it? Our '72 Wagon had the 2.0 SOHC engine in it also, but all of the others had the newer 2.3L SOHC. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___

Re: [MBZ] Original Smart car design

2008-12-14 Thread Bill R
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Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread LWB250
No, there was a metal frame to the lift gate with a large window in it. I think it was only made for a short time, as there were issues with identifying the proper model year on it a couple of times. That's why I said it was a 71-1/2. I really wanted one of the panel wagons but could never

[MBZ] 201 ACC pushbutton unit

2008-12-14 Thread Loren Faeth
In housecleaning, I came across a ACC pushbutton unit for a 201. It has a manufacture tag on it 12-84, so it was surely from an 85 model. It is complete in the wood panel (with temp control) and also has the fan push button unit. If anyone can use it, it is for sale. It seems to be

Re: [MBZ] How about a classic Ford Pinto?

2008-12-14 Thread Kevin Kraly
I really wanted one of the panel wagons but could never find one in decent shape. Ah, one of the cruising wagons with the porthole on each side? That would be a find indeed! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 201 ACC pushbutton unit

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
In housecleaning, I came across a ACC pushbutton unit for a 201. It has a manufacture tag on it 12-84, so it was surely from an 85 model...It seems to be different than the ones in 124 and 126 models from 1986-1988 I have had. It is, it has an extra main button, and a separate AC control

[MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing. Wait for 20 minutes for somebody to show up to help everyone in line. They say sure they will take care of it, will be 2 hours though. Crap.

Re: [MBZ] approximate cost of OM603 valve job?

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.gishart.com/sites/dover/index.htm Christopher McCann wrote: 1. Can the valves on the OM603 be ground? I think some valves cannot be ground. 2. If they can, what is the approximate cost of a valve job for this engine? Thanks! Chris '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Naw, he will just sell the trailer now that the buying freeze is on. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch.

[MBZ] I make it back

2008-12-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Glad you're safely back at home, Kaleb. 'Been worried about ya all day. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Most tire shops will mount a tire like that for free or real cheap,a nd pretty quick. Discount tire does that. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing.

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well here is the deal, since I have had my trailer, I have been all over the country with it with no spare at all. Well, the original tires started getting worn so i started throwing a wheel in the back for a spare. Well, one time I had a tire go flat and I needed the spare. Would not fit.

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
only place that was open sunday morning was walmart. They were my last choice, trust me. Rich Thomas wrote: Most tire shops will mount a tire like that for free or real cheap,a nd pretty quick. Discount tire does that. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as we left off I was going to go

[MBZ] Land Yaught

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Robert Rentfro
Naw, he'll keep the trailer and charge delivery fees when he sells something. Bob R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Land Yaught

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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[MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that needs new tires. The 140 diesel will need new tires soon. The 140 I just picked up will need new tires if I keep it. The trailer probably should have new tires. The big dollar one is the truck, its going to need new tires

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that needs new tires. The 140 diesel will need new tires soon. The 140 I just picked

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
holy CRAP, why would you spend that much on tires? Are they made of gold? Wonko the Sane wrote: I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GoodyeartireModel=Assurance+TripleTred On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: holy CRAP, why would you spend that much on tires? Are they made of gold? ___

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Kevin Kraly
Sounds like re-tirement time to me. My bike couldn't survive anymore since it was two tired! My poor unicycle can't stand on his own at all!! :(:)D Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] approximate cost of OM603 valve job?

2008-12-14 Thread OK Don
I think we paid between $500 and $600 to have my son's 603 surfaced, the valves ground, and new guides installed. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: 1. Can the valves on the OM603 be ground? I think some valves cannot be ground. 2. If they can,

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:21:46 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Well, you do want to go faster than 65mph. Also car tires are

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:55:51 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E. What was the breakdown of the various elements of that cost? tires - balancing - disposal fee - warranty - tax -

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:18:54 -0800 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Sounds like re-tirement time to me. My bike couldn't survive anymore since it was two tired! My poor unicycle can't stand on his own at all!! :(:)D Good one, Kevin! Shirley really liked it, too. Craig

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Everything except disposal fee -- I kept the old tires to give to Debbie's brother (he is building a hot rod). Didn't get any special (road hazard?) warranty other than the 80,000 mile warranty that comes with the tires. Yea, they were pricey but should be the only tires I ever have to buy for the

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Fmiser
Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only

[MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-14 Thread OK Don
Since we're in line to get the ice/snow storm (only 30% chance though), I went to put the snow tires that came with the car from Donald Snook on this afternoon. When I let the first tire down, a LOT of 1 to 2 cracks appeared on the sidewall. Crap - dry rotted tire. Off it came, and on went the

[MBZ] Gama Goat

2008-12-14 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/958125060.html -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:12:41 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: Everything except disposal fee -- I kept the old tires to give to Debbie's brother (he is building a hot rod). Didn't get any special (road hazard?) warranty other than the 80,000 mile warranty that comes with the

Re: [MBZ] Land Yaught

2008-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Land dinghy: http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=BIEHM6355132 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to

Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
Good tires cost good money but cheap tires cost more in the long run because you pay more to mount cheap tires more often. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/14/08 9:05 PM

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
WalMart is slow on purpose. The longer they take the more likely you will buy something in the store. You did buy something, right? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/14/08 7:08

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
I don't know but I do know that a neighbor was pulling a ski boat with his 3/4 ton Suburban and had 3 blow-outs in one year. It turns out that the tires he was running weren't up to the load even though the tong weight + 1/4 of the Suburban weight were well under what was marked on the tire

Re: [MBZ] lubricants

2008-12-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
The best grease for door hinges is white lithium. Unlike wheel bearing grease, the grease flows easy into hinges. BTW, if your hinge is squeaking then it may already be too late. On the good side, GM hinge bushings are cheap easy to replace. They are actually designed to be serviced in a few

Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Our car hauler weighs around 1800#. The typical MB I'd put on it is something like 3400-3800#, IIRC. My