Re: [MBZ] OT: Welders, again
The post was probably the problem. Just like a high current starter circuit, it does not take too much resistance to mess things up. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Welders, again Today I bought a Hobart Handler 120 that had been dropped, for $50. The guy I bought it from had bought it from a rental place. He'd replaced the broken fan blade and said that while it did work, it would only put out low power. He could use it for tacking, but not much more. He replaced it with a Lincoln 140, which he's very happy with. This Hobart, by the way, is old-school, with a big transformer, two big diodes, and a reactor. As well as a big capacitor with a bleed resistor. (Not inverter based.) Not much to go wrong. The four-position heat switch just feeds different primary taps on the transformer. Well, I went through it, even so far as to remove the diode pack and test (sort of) each one of the six. I could find nothing wrong. The open-circuit voltage out of the transformer changes with each of the four settings, and is up to 40V side-to-side. (About 20V center-tap to either side.) The DC output is only 26-27V at maximum, rather than the 29V specified, though the two lowest settings are pretty close. Current is balanced in the two transformer sides, according to my clampmeter. Using jumper cables I hooked up a load wire to the welder, the load wire was the interior spring from an old radiator hose! I can make it glow red hot on each of the four settings, and the time it takes to do so is proportionate to the heat setting knob. The output current (variable) is about the same on each setting, but the voltage is different. I guess it appears to be working right, but I haven't tried actually welding with it yet. One thing I did notice was that the + terminal post in the wire feed chamber was melted, it looks like it might been put on loose and then heated up, or perhaps it got corroded and did the same. I suppose it's possible that this was its only problem, I'll certainly look into that before I actually try to weld with it. My idea was to have a second welder, one that was set up for either flux-core wire or aluminum. For $50 I couldn't pass it up, I think I could part it out for that if I had to. The gun's in good shape and the feed mechanism works. (The case, of course, is not---the back cover is broken and it's missing the feed chamber side plate.) Thoughts? This certainly will not be replacing my Miller 180, which I bought brand new, but it's always nice to have a spare! I'm not sure it'll be up to running aluminum, that takes more heat and wire speed than steel, and this _is_ a lightweight 110V unit after all. It's also the 'loaner'. Nobody borrows 220V equipment, but a 110V welder could easily be loaned out. And at $50 I'm not too worried about it, either! (The Miller was 10x that price. More, with the bottle.) It could also run off of a generator, I suppose, for portable welding. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1881 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 5:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welders, again
Did he throw in some old microwave ovens as a bonus? --R Jim Cathey wrote: Today I bought a Hobart Handler 120 that had been dropped, for $50. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release
Seems like its just R134a, you could probably get the same results with a can of compressed air held upside down... Sometimes breaking a bolt is the best result, when working on lawnmowers I frequently hope that it'll just break... I usually replace with stainless on lawnmowers. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:34:41 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: fbc36f3b0901081934s63a08fa7la411dffe3869f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I guess you have to allow the bolt to warm up again after applying the penetrating oil. I've snapped the heads off a few bolts when removing them at that temp. Ed 300E 2009/1/8 harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net They say it freezes the nut/bolt down to -45 degrees. This creates microscopic cracks in the rust or whatever, allowing the penetrating oil to do a quick and better job. Wait a couple of minutes and do the removal. http://www.loctitefreezeandrelease.com/ I'll give it a test while removing some exhaust parts next week. Hope it works. Harry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/a2c395da/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
For that matter, what does one have to do to get a GMail invite? I always wondered about that, not that I need another email addy, but Dan --- On Thu, 1/8/09, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:55 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- Done. Can somebody send this man a GMAIL invite? Mitch. -- OK Don -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/9f5b9f42/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release
Curt Raymond wrote: Sometimes breaking a bolt is the best result, ...if it's threaded into a nut that you can also replace. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daily driving old cars (was 2005 Magnum)
Well put, Steve. I agree with you totally. While I was formally trained as a mechanic, working on these older cars becomes more and more problematic as they age. Parts are getting harder to find, and unless you have a legacy shop in your area, forget finding someone to work on them when something comes up that you don't want to do or don't have the means or ability to do. Despite being able to service and repair these cars if I chose to, my priorities and interests have shifted to the point where I don't care to spend hours of my weekends underneath them or buried up to my elbows in one. I guess if my kids took an interest in them (they don't) or I had some other compelling reason to do it, I would. Otherwise, I have gotten to the point where a car is transportation and should not require constant upkeep on my part. That being said, the day will come that I will probably find one to tinker with as a fun car, but I have no expectation that I will ever have one as a daily driver again. There just isn't enough time in the day. My youngest son has it in his mind that he would like to have a 300E. I have been gently directing him elsewhere, as he is not a mechanical sort, although he's willing to learn and does have the ability if he chose to do so. I don't think he would have the tolerance for the time and effort involved for maintaining a car of this vintage. I would also like to see him in something newer, as newer = safer, even taking the MB safety record into account. Dan --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca Subject: [MBZ] Daily driving old cars (was 2005 Magnum) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 1:53 AM on 1/8/09 21:34, Mountain Man at maontin@gmail.com wrote: I think it applies to the dialog. We are a culture that has gotten waaay beyond the necessity of living and are hurting ourselves for it. mao I read these discussions with great interest. One of the main reasons I stuck with the older cars for years was my belief in the fact that there is a certain nobility in keeping something that was built to last and serve a useful purpose, active and useful. Just as, for example, my parents always purchased the high-end furniture and had it refinished/recovered/rebuilt as the decades passed. Unfortunately, you can only be the salmon who decides to swim against the current up to a certain point. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/cac129f5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Backup is there in XP Pro. If you use the bubble gum interface as it comes out of the box, there should still be a way to get to accessories through the programs button. Look for accessories or system tools. backup is in system tools. Or just do a search for ntbackup.exe that should find it for you. At 05:31 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote: Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive In Windows: GO to Start then programs then accessories then system tools then backup that launches the backup program. CHoose to configure it manually, and in the process, you can schedule backups with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or once a week or whatever you want. DO back up system state as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure. Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software. I prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless of what/where i backup to. At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP. I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto backup the 2 PC and one Laptop. Is this possible to do? Software? -- Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr. Ultracast, LLC 199 Freshwater Blvd. Enfield, CT 06082 (860) 253-5015 A problem well stated is a problem half solved. - Charles F. Kettering ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBUSA price bumps
relng...@aol.com wrote: Indeed so. I just ordered a navigation update DVD for my C-300's hard drive Comand system and the price went up 25% on 1/1/2009. How much did it cost? If I ever add the nav brain box I'd have to buy the navigation DVDs as well... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New repair DVD's available
relng...@aol.com wrote: MBUSA has released 2 new DVD's for W203 W211 chassis...first time they have released customer(client) repair info before the models were replaced! For the W211 chassis P-2700-211-06 I called the 800 number to get my W211 DVD a while back. It is a *lot* better than the older manuals, but it still isn't super straight forward. There is a lot of extra info as well... it goes through the theory on a lot of the systems, which is very helpful! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Recalibrate W126 Speedometer
Electrical Hendrik Fay wrote: Is it electrical or cable driven? Hendrik who has adjusted cable driven speedos John Robbins wrote: Is there a way to re-calibrate a W126 speedometer? The one in the 500SE is kind of wonky compared to GPS. Could something like this cause the cruise control to be messed up? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Recalibrate W126 Speedometer
Jim Cathey wrote: I think 124's might be mechanical Unfortunately, yes. I hate removing instrument clusters with speedo cables! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welders, again
Did he throw in some old microwave ovens as a bonus? Nah, I've still got plenty left! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daily driving old cars (was 2005 Magnum)
S, are you saying that you are gonna sell me my 240d back for what you payed me for it? I shall not be kept down by the lack of parts.I am stubborn and i know several welders and machinists...lol Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:53:18 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Steve MacSween steve.macsw...@videotron.ca Subject: [MBZ] Daily driving old cars (was 2005 Magnum) on 1/8/09 21:34, Mountain Man at maontin@gmail.com wrote: I think it applies to the dialog. We are a culture that has gotten waaay beyond the necessity of living and are hurting ourselves for it. mao I read these discussions with great interest. One of the main reasons I stuck with the older cars for years was my belief in the fact that there is a certain nobility in keeping something that was built to last and serve a useful purpose, active and useful. Just as, for example, my parents always purchased the high-end furniture and had it refinished/recovered/rebuilt as the decades passed. Unfortunately, you can only be the salmon who decides to swim against the current up to a certain point. In my part of the northeast/rustbelt there is simply no interest in older cars anymore, as far as the auto industry is concerned. There are virtually no wrenches left who have the inclination to work on even the most pristine older Benz for anything resembling sane money. The markups on working on the newer European models are just too alluring. They see a 126 as a bothersome anachronism. A turbodiesel 126 drips oil on their shop floor to boot. The guy who gave me the $440 bill for my tranny cable actually had the brass balls to complain about that. I kid you not. And that car did not leak much. Oh, there were bright spots. My local import parts dealer always helped me out. But they are getting frustrated. Every last significant part I ordered over the last year was either wrong (listing problem) or failed right out of the box and had to be exchanged. Not sustainable for them. The manager of the parts counter of one of our local dealers is a great guy. He always helped me out. But over the last few months I have been hearing something I never before experienced with Mercedes: Sorry, that's NLA (or backordered forever, in Mercedes parlance). Kaleb suffers from the conceit common to many people who are knowledgeable about working on older cars. If I understand it, it cannot be hard. Unfortunately I was born with two left thumbs, I am not naturally mechanically inclined and what I have learned came really, really hard over many hours of trial, error and more error. Yeah, in the parlance of my high school years, I'm a five-star dork. And I got into wrenching my own stuff way too late in life. My bad on that. When you take the attitude that you should not be driving an older car if you cannot do this or that job, then this community starts to sound like a religious cult. It makes me very uncomfortable. Most of the people I have corresponded with on these assorted MB lists (and I have been around since Hurst was looking for his first Mercedes on Dave L's original one) relied on some level of shop support to keep their cars on the road. When that is no longer there, you are at the mercy of people's memories as you troll multiple lists for advice, in the hope that someone has had the same situation as you in the past. I can tell you have had numerous instances where I either came up empty-handed, or worse got bad advice from someone whose memory had evidently faded. As usual I have rambled a bit. So yes, I miss my 126 and I miss making a statement against the consumer culture. But the man will get you in the end, as we used to say in the 70s. So will trying to drive 25-yr old cars in a region whose climate ranges from -35 deg C in the worst of the winter, to 35 deg C or more with punishing humidity in the summers. Old equipment creaks, groans and fails when asked to tackle that. And so, finally, did I :) Cheers Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Dave, I went and downloaded this thing cause I thought it would be neat to have. When I unpacked it my virus guard had a problem with it. Something about it contains the SPR tool passview XPA whatever that is. I'm thinking it may be as little as the engine that looks for the keys or as big as something that looks for the keys and sends them back to someone somewhere. Does anyone know anything on this? Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:30:40 -0500 From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive It's a good idea to record your activation codes before the shit hits the fan. You can use Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder to get them if you don't have the original codes. And don't just put them in a file on your hard disk - if it dies you can't get to them. http://magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
that is a good idea. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
That could be. I have never seen the home edition. I know the consumer big boxes foisted it on unsuspecting customers, but I have stayed far, far away from that and the virus formerly known as Winders ME. I have played with vista business some, but found no functional relevance to justify its existence. Just another reason to buy a Mac. The mac OS is the Mac OS. They don't sell crippled versions. (yeah, I know LT DON says I should be running 6 or 8 different versions of ubutnix or some such thing) If you choose to upgrade the Mac OS, it costs something like $100 for a full version, not $400 to $500 or more. a 3-4 yr old Mac generally performs as well as a new windows machine in the experience i have had. I currently still use an ibook 400 mhz for my on the road computer. It will connect to any windows machine and gives me the windows screen via remote desktop. I would like to upgrade to one of the early macbooks some year, as they are about 3 years old now. I got a newer, faster Powerbook G4, but I find myself using the ibook still, even though it is 7-8 years old. I like the small light machine that the old ibook is. The powerbook and even a new macbook are bigger and heavier. Yeah, I know there is the air but I often need a cd/dvd, and they are still bigger. At 08:41 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Backup is there in XP Pro. If you use the bubble gum interface as it comes out of the box, there should still be a way to get to accessories through the programs button. Look for accessories or system tools. backup is in system tools. Or just do a search for ntbackup.exe that should find it for you. At 05:31 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote: Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive In Windows: GO to Start then programs then accessories then system tools then backup that launches the backup program. CHoose to configure it manually, and in the process, you can schedule backups with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or once a week or whatever you want. DO back up system state as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure. Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software. I prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless of what/where i backup to. At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP. I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto backup the 2 PC and one Laptop. Is this possible to do? Software? -- Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr. Ultracast, LLC 199 Freshwater Blvd. Enfield, CT 06082 (860) 253-5015 A problem well stated is a problem half solved. - Charles F. Kettering ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options
Re: [MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release
Thats why I said sometimes. Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:36:07 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 496760d7.9070...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Sometimes breaking a bolt is the best result, ...if it's threaded into a nut that you can also replace. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/fe22939f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Autoworkers
I received the following from a couple of sources (which makes it particularly suspect) but some of you seem to have an inside perspective on the Detroit auto industry and may want to comment. Also, in my experience labor cost is 1.5x to 2x what employees actually receive in salary. - I'm still trying to verify the facts, but I think it is close, According to Forbes: Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for hourly workers. Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year) GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year) Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year) Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year) According to AAUP and IES, the average annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary nationally of $73,207 + 27% benefits). Bottom Line: The average UAW worker with a high school diploma earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university professor with a Ph.D., and 52.6% more than the average worker at Toyota, Honda or Nissan. Many industry analysts say the Detroit Three, need be on par with Toyota and Honda to compete/survive. This year's contract, they say, must be transformational in reducing pension and health care costs. What would transformational mean? One way to think about transformational would mean that UAW workers, most with a high school diploma, would have to accept compensation equal to that of the average university professor with a PhD. Then there's the Job Bank When a D3 (Detroit 3 carmaker) lays an employee off, that employee continues to receive all benefits - medical, retirement, etc., etc., PLUS an hourly wage of $31/hour. Here's a typical story Ken Pool is making good money. On weekdays, he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.'s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then starts working -- on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits. We just go in and play crossword puzzles, watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper, he says. Otherwise, I just sit. Pool is one of more than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up by Detroit automakers as demanded by the United Auto Workers Union - UAW - as part of an extraordinary job security agreement. Now the D3 wants Joe Taxpayer to pick up this tab in a $25 Billion bailout package - soon to be increased to $45 Billion if Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have their way. The Big 3 want this money - not to build better autos. No. They want it to pay the tab for Medical and Retirement benefits for RETIRED auto workers. Not ONE PENNY would be used to make them more competitive, or to improve the quality of their cars. We ALL have problems paying for our Medical Insurance - but the Democrat leaders in Congress now want us to pay the Medical Insurance premiums of folks who have RETIRED from Ford, GM and Chrysler. Not a good deal for us. How about Chapter 11 - and getting rid of these ridiculous union contracts? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/81859213/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
I downloaded and ran it with no problems. I use Avast! free home computer protection. It listed the key for all my MS stuff and a couple of other things. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Dave, I went and downloaded this thing cause I thought it would be neat to have. When I unpacked it my virus guard had a problem with it. Something about it contains the SPR tool passview XPA whatever that is. I'm thinking it may be as little as the engine that looks for the keys or as big as something that looks for the keys and sends them back to someone somewhere. Does anyone know anything on this? Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:30:40 -0500 From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive It's a good idea to record your activation codes before the shit hits the fan. You can use Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder to get them if you don't have the original codes. And don't just put them in a file on your hard disk - if it dies you can't get to them. http://magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Mao, I like that quote quite a bit. It seems that recently people have begun to accept without question that the purpose of life is to make money, instead of the purpose of money being to help one trade with others to meet their basic needs for survival. I find the idea of a life purposed around extracting a profit from the world to be a very depressing and dull prospect. Tyler Here's the quote from Adam Smith: I mean we may get back to a saner kind of world -- what Adam Smith called cultivation or civilization -- where we don't all sort of spend our life trying to make money, to buy things we don't really need to impress the neighbors, and so on. Where we actually do work -- not 60 hours a week, but 40 hours a week. Where we actually do take holidays. Where we actually get to know our kids again. Where it actually becomes smart to have a tiny car, to walk and bicycle and these sorts of things. And we may find we enjoy it actually just as much as the hectic pace that we've seen in recent years. I've often said that capitalism, particularly in America, is a very exhausting business. It tires people out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
I'm adding all the management and file tools, so we will see what shows up. Every possible Windows part has been added and still no backup program. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive that is a good idea. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
This computer is about 4 years old, and I have survived a couple of hard drive failures by using my older hard drives as storage. Nothing at all in the system tools folder for backup, though. I'll work something out. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive That could be. I have never seen the home edition. I know the consumer big boxes foisted it on unsuspecting customers, but I have stayed far, far away from that and the virus formerly known as Winders ME. I have played with vista business some, but found no functional relevance to justify its existence. Just another reason to buy a Mac. The mac OS is the Mac OS. They don't sell crippled versions. (yeah, I know LT DON says I should be running 6 or 8 different versions of ubutnix or some such thing) If you choose to upgrade the Mac OS, it costs something like $100 for a full version, not $400 to $500 or more. a 3-4 yr old Mac generally performs as well as a new windows machine in the experience i have had. I currently still use an ibook 400 mhz for my on the road computer. It will connect to any windows machine and gives me the windows screen via remote desktop. I would like to upgrade to one of the early macbooks some year, as they are about 3 years old now. I got a newer, faster Powerbook G4, but I find myself using the ibook still, even though it is 7-8 years old. I like the small light machine that the old ibook is. The powerbook and even a new macbook are bigger and heavier. Yeah, I know there is the air but I often need a cd/dvd, and they are still bigger. At 08:41 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Backup is there in XP Pro. If you use the bubble gum interface as it comes out of the box, there should still be a way to get to accessories through the programs button. Look for accessories or system tools. backup is in system tools. Or just do a search for ntbackup.exe that should find it for you. At 05:31 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote: Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive In Windows: GO to Start then programs then accessories then system tools then backup that launches the backup program. CHoose to configure it manually, and in the process, you can schedule backups with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or once a week or whatever you want. DO back up system state as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure. Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software. I prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless of what/where i backup to. At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP. I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto backup the 2 PC and one Laptop. Is this possible to do? Software? -- Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr. Ultracast, LLC 199 Freshwater Blvd. Enfield, CT 06082 (860) 253-5015 A problem well stated is a problem half solved. - Charles F. Kettering ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
Just ask someone using GMail to send you an invite. I have 86 left. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: For that matter, what does one have to do to get a GMail invite? I always wondered about that, not that I need another email addy, but Dan --- On Thu, 1/8/09, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:55 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- Done. Can somebody send this man a GMAIL invite? Mitch. -- OK Don -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/9f5b9f42/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/468a60c6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
The early macbooks are a dream for people who do their own repairs, they're very easy to disassemble and very simple inside- almost like a desktop pc! I like mine quite a bit, but I also wish they had made it a bit smaller. 12 is a perfect size in my opinion, because it leaves room for a full sized desktop keyboard. Tyler I would like to upgrade to one of the early macbooks some year, as they are about 3 years old now. I got a newer, faster Powerbook G4, but I find myself using the ibook still, even though it is 7-8 years old. I like the small light machine that the old ibook is. The powerbook and even a new macbook are bigger and heavier. Yeah, I know there is the air but I often need a cd/dvd, and they are still bigger. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
Um. mail.google.com will let you sign up, gratis. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 12:38 PM 1/9/2009, you wrote: Just ask someone using GMail to send you an invite. I have 86 left. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Ok, who want's to be the first to sell their Mercedes and unplug their connection to the internet? Neither fall under basic needs as far as I'm aware. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Tyler casi...@usermail.com Mao, I like that quote quite a bit. It seems that recently people have begun to accept without question that the purpose of life is to make money, instead of the purpose of money being to help one trade with others to meet their basic needs for survival. I find the idea of a life purposed around extracting a profit from the world to be a very depressing and dull prospect. Tyler Here's the quote from Adam Smith: I mean we may get back to a saner kind of world -- what Adam Smith called cultivation or civilization -- where we don't all sort of spend our life trying to make money, to buy things we don't really need to impress the neighbors, and so on. Where we actually do work -- not 60 hours a week, but 40 hours a week. Where we actually do take holidays. Where we actually get to know our kids again. Where it actually becomes smart to have a tiny car, to walk and bicycle and these sorts of things. And we may find we enjoy it actually just as much as the hectic pace that we've seen in recent years. I've often said that capitalism, particularly in America, is a very exhausting business. It tires people out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/b1cd900e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
to that of the average university professor with a PhD. Then there's the Job Bank When a D3 (Detroit 3 carmaker) lays an employee off, that employee continues to receive all benefits - medical, retirement, etc., etc., PLUS an hourly wage of $31/hour. Here's a typical story Ken Pool is making good money. On weekdays, he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.'s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then starts working -- on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits. We just go in and play crossword puzzles, watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper, he says. Otherwise, I just sit. Pool is one of more than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up by Detroit automakers as demanded by the United Auto Workers Union - UAW - as part of an extraordinary job security agreement. Now the D3 wants Joe Taxpayer to pick up this tab in a $25 Billion bailout package - soon to be increased to $45 Billion if Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have their way. The Big 3 want this money - not to build better autos. No. They want it to pay the tab for Medical and Retirement benefits for RETIRED auto workers. Not ONE PENNY would be used to make them more competitive, or to improve the quality of their cars. We ALL have problems paying for our Medical Insurance - but the Democrat leaders in Congress now want us to pay the Medical Insurance premiums of folks who have RETIRED from Ford, GM and Chrysler. Not a good deal for us. How about Chapter 11 - and getting rid of these ridiculous union contracts? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/81 859213/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
I was at my last remaining car dealer a little while ago and he was on the internet I assume at microsoft where they had a deal you could try out the new windows thats coming out now. Need to see if I can find that and try it out. Loren Faeth wrote: That could be. I have never seen the home edition. I know the consumer big boxes foisted it on unsuspecting customers, but I have stayed far, far away from that and the virus formerly known as Winders ME. I have played with vista business some, but found no functional relevance to justify its existence. Just another reason to buy a Mac. The mac OS is the Mac OS. They don't sell crippled versions. (yeah, I know LT DON says I should be running 6 or 8 different versions of ubutnix or some such thing) If you choose to upgrade the Mac OS, it costs something like $100 for a full version, not $400 to $500 or more. a 3-4 yr old Mac generally performs as well as a new windows machine in the experience i have had. I currently still use an ibook 400 mhz for my on the road computer. It will connect to any windows machine and gives me the windows screen via remote desktop. I would like to upgrade to one of the early macbooks some year, as they are about 3 years old now. I got a newer, faster Powerbook G4, but I find myself using the ibook still, even though it is 7-8 years old. I like the small light machine that the old ibook is. The powerbook and even a new macbook are bigger and heavier. Yeah, I know there is the air but I often need a cd/dvd, and they are still bigger. At 08:41 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Backup is there in XP Pro. If you use the bubble gum interface as it comes out of the box, there should still be a way to get to accessories through the programs button. Look for accessories or system tools. backup is in system tools. Or just do a search for ntbackup.exe that should find it for you. At 05:31 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote: Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive In Windows: GO to Start then programs then accessories then system tools then backup that launches the backup program. CHoose to configure it manually, and in the process, you can schedule backups with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or once a week or whatever you want. DO back up system state as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure. Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software. I prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless of what/where i backup to. At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP. I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto backup the 2 PC and one Laptop. Is this possible to do? Software? -- Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr. Ultracast, LLC 199 Freshwater Blvd. Enfield, CT 06082 (860) 253-5015 A problem well stated is a problem half solved. - Charles F. Kettering ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
Did we go back to 2004 when I wasn't looking? AFAIK you can just sign up for GMail now.. Yeah, gmail.com Sign up for Gmail... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:38:50 -0600 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 61dfb08b0901090938t3a96da99gdf784c3ec1075...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just ask someone using GMail to send you an invite. I have 86 left. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: For that matter, what does one have to do to get a GMail invite? I always wondered about that, not that I need another email addy, but Dan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/1b239303/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55eb95f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
It is not in public beta as far as I can tell. There may be some copies available to MSDN subscribers. That will cost you $750 per year. The official word seems to be that win7 is pre-beta. see: http://www.windowsvienna.com/how-to-download-windows-7-beta-a23.html It looks like you can sign up now, and if they select you, then you will get to download. I probably don't have hardware hefty enough to run it if it is a resource-hogging jump like vista was from XP. Rather than buying a bunch of new hardware, I may become an ubutnick like LT Don whenever XP is unserviceable I did prove to my satisfaction that Wizzta will run on minimal hardware when you configure it to the 2000 interface. I found i could even install it on a 10 gig drive, but that left almost no room for patches and SW. Patches have really bloated winders OS since Winders 2000. At 12:09 PM 1/9/2009, you wrote: I was at my last remaining car dealer a little while ago and he was on the internet I assume at microsoft where they had a deal you could try out the new windows thats coming out now. Need to see if I can find that and try it out. Loren Faeth wrote: That could be. I have never seen the home edition. I know the consumer big boxes foisted it on unsuspecting customers, but I have stayed far, far away from that and the virus formerly known as Winders ME. I have played with vista business some, but found no functional relevance to justify its existence. Just another reason to buy a Mac. The mac OS is the Mac OS. They don't sell crippled versions. (yeah, I know LT DON says I should be running 6 or 8 different versions of ubutnix or some such thing) If you choose to upgrade the Mac OS, it costs something like $100 for a full version, not $400 to $500 or more. a 3-4 yr old Mac generally performs as well as a new windows machine in the experience i have had. I currently still use an ibook 400 mhz for my on the road computer. It will connect to any windows machine and gives me the windows screen via remote desktop. I would like to upgrade to one of the early macbooks some year, as they are about 3 years old now. I got a newer, faster Powerbook G4, but I find myself using the ibook still, even though it is 7-8 years old. I like the small light machine that the old ibook is. The powerbook and even a new macbook are bigger and heavier. Yeah, I know there is the air but I often need a cd/dvd, and they are still bigger. At 08:41 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Backup is there in XP Pro. If you use the bubble gum interface as it comes out of the box, there should still be a way to get to accessories through the programs button. Look for accessories or system tools. backup is in system tools. Or just do a search for ntbackup.exe that should find it for you. At 05:31 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote: Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive In Windows: GO to Start then programs then accessories then system tools then backup that launches the backup program. CHoose to configure it manually, and in the process, you can schedule backups with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or once a week or whatever you want. DO back up system state as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure. Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software. I prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless of what/where i backup to. At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP. I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto backup the 2 PC and one Laptop. Is this possible to do? Software? -- Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr. Ultracast, LLC 199 Freshwater Blvd. Enfield, CT 06082 (860) 253-5015 A problem well stated is a problem half solved. - Charles F. Kettering ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
[MBZ] Anybody near Whitehall (MD)?
Does someone want to check out a 1983 300D for me? It's off I-83 N of Baltimore, in Whitehall (MD) just south of the PA line. Andrew -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/9217ddd9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Not I, I very much enjoy my internet connection and my Mercedes. For one, I wouldn't be able to visit or talk to most of my friends and family without them because they've moved all around the USA and the world. I don't think this is what the quote was getting at. He (and I) wasn't saying to avoid spending money on things not required to survival, but rather a re-ordering of priorities to think of money as a tool to help you meet your life goals, rather than the goal itself. Their is an illusion/myth in our culture that happiness comes from having enough money and material possessions. People keep wanting more, but their desire is endless so they are never satisfied or happy regardless of what they get. This is well illustrated by the concept of a hungry ghost in ancient Buddhist mythology. A hungry ghost is a being with endless hunger, but a tiny throat that only allows it to eat a small amount of food, so it is eternally experiencing endless desire and unhappy/dissatisfied. Tyler Ok, who want's to be the first to sell their Mercedes and unplug their connection to the internet? Neither fall under basic needs as far as I'm aware. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Tyler casi...@usermail.com Mao, I like that quote quite a bit. It seems that recently people have begun to accept without question that the purpose of life is to make money, instead of the purpose of money being to help one trade with others to meet their basic needs for survival. I find the idea of a life purposed around extracting a profit from the world to be a very depressing and dull prospect. Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Previa
Meant strainer, not filter. Just simpler to say filter clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Jeff Zedic wrote: Actually the Previa did not have a trans fluid filter originally. It had a strainer which was meant for the life of the vehicle. Many people thought it was a filter and replaced it with some Fram shit so now you have to keep changing it. The price for a strainer was high...about three or four times that of a filter kit. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's crack addict
So offer him $120 and see how far he lets you go. Bound to not have many offers clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: 1961 Mercedes - $2500 (Andrews, SC) http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/983216772.html --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090108/86cc6bae/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I get a job today, and I get a memo from the pres of my company
This is why I invested heavily in a sin fund a number of years ago. Bullets, booze and boobs. Had not been doing all that great, but I expect much more from it in the coming years. clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Bill R wrote: Entertainment always does well in a bad economy [or so I have been told]. People need something to take their minds off problems. I suppose they could drink ... BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I get a job today, and I get a memo from the pres of my company Kaleb wrote: Well, I got a job offer at one of the leading sat tv providers What is with DISH and other providers? - why are they hiring? I guess they are paying real well for new trainees here, but I can't imagine people spending money for entertainment when jobs are being lost, etc - the economy. So, why does sat tv get the boost? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's crack addict
Even if I got it for free the price to pay when I got it home would be wayyy higher. --R Redghost wrote: So offer him $120 and see how far he lets you go. Bound to not have many offers clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: 1961 Mercedes - $2500 (Andrews, SC) http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/983216772.html --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090108/86cc6bae/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snow survival
yeah, how are you doing? Meadowbrook usually turns into a raging river and takes out roads. You still high and dry? clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:18 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..The ABS on my W201 and my Olds aren't too bad. The ABS on my Taurus made me feel like the brakes were deactivated in the winter, so I did a lot of quick key-off for stop signs at slippery intersections My C300, having MB's latest iteration of ESP, did quite well in our big snow two weeks ago (just melted) even though it's not a 4-Matic but without my Nokian WRg2 snow tires, it would have been different. I learned long ago to descend snowy hills slowly and in neutral to let the ABS work. And now, the floods. RLE ** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090108/8cb96e49/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snow survival
Anyone know anything about the ABS system on 80s MBs? Is it 3 or 4 channel? I've always avoided ABS cars (especially 80s ones) because poor ABS is worse than none, yet the 80s MB system seems to work VERY well. I had people in newer SUVs stop suddenly in front of me while driving on 6 of snow without snow tires, and I was able to stop much quicker than them! Tyler ..The ABS on my W201 and my Olds aren't too bad. The ABS on my Taurus made me feel like the brakes were deactivated in the winter, so I did a lot of quick key-off for stop signs at slippery intersections ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Wicked cool base jumping.
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1778399server=vimeo.comshow_title=1show_byline=1show_portrait=0color=fullscreen=1 Duuude! I don't make OT posts very often, but this is exceptional. Added a line to my Bucket List. -Dave Walton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/30727c23/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I get a job today, and I get a memo from the pres of my company
And, if they can't give your $$ back you can always take it in merchandise, though some of that you will have to feed... BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I get a job today, and I get a memo from the pres of my company This is why I invested heavily in a sin fund a number of years ago. Bullets, booze and boobs. Had not been doing all that great, but I expect much more from it in the coming years. clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Bill R wrote: Entertainment always does well in a bad economy [or so I have been told]. People need something to take their minds off problems. I suppose they could drink ... BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I get a job today, and I get a memo from the pres of my company Kaleb wrote: Well, I got a job offer at one of the leading sat tv providers What is with DISH and other providers? - why are they hiring? I guess they are paying real well for new trainees here, but I can't imagine people spending money for entertainment when jobs are being lost, etc - the economy. So, why does sat tv get the boost? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
I wasn't paying attention, I guess. But at least I am stuck in 2004 rather than 1954. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Did we go back to 2004 when I wasn't looking? AFAIK you can just sign up for GMail now.. Yeah, gmail.com Sign up for Gmail... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/b3fbdba8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
These payments are negotiated in good faith by the Autoworkers and MANAGEMENT. If management gave the farm away, shame on them! I suggest THEY were greedy and/or stupid to make those concessions. When they want to get tough is before the negotiations, not after it's signed. BTW, I've been in manufacturing management for 30+ years. I'm thinking of writing a book from both sides. Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55eb95 f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT- for the Legal brothers
Subject: FW: UFO hits Wind turbine In case any of your wind clients experience unexplained fallen turbines or blades. Howard and I settled this type of case earlier this year, we never thought of impleading the Martians. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iDJpvzoh1Iw SWMBA's firm is big on energy work and she forwarded this to me. Maybe Don Snook needs to get into energy work on plaintiff side for when the martians hit the midwest turbines -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
See: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7da725e2-8b69-4c65- afa3-2a53107d54a7displaylang=en or http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.ntbackup.aspx I seem to recall that backup did not come with XP Home originally but was part of one of the Service Pack updates (or was that ME?) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:36 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I'm adding all the management and file tools, so we will see what shows up. Every possible Windows part has been added and still no backup program. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive that is a good idea. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
% benefits). Bottom Line: The average UAW worker with a high school diploma earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university professor with a Ph.D., and 52.6% more than the average worker at Toyota, Honda or Nissan. Many industry analysts say the Detroit Three, need be on par with Toyota and Honda to compete/survive. This year's contract, they say, must be transformational in reducing pension and health care costs. What would transformational mean? One way to think about transformational would mean that UAW workers, most with a high school diploma, would have to accept compensation equal to that of the average university professor with a PhD. Then there's the Job Bank When a D3 (Detroit 3 carmaker) lays an employee off, that employee continues to receive all benefits - medical, retirement, etc., etc., PLUS an hourly wage of $31/hour. Here's a typical story Ken Pool is making good money. On weekdays, he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.'s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then starts working -- on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits. We just go in and play crossword puzzles, watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper, he says. Otherwise, I just sit. Pool is one of more than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up by Detroit automakers as demanded by the United Auto Workers Union - UAW - as part of an extraordinary job security agreement. Now the D3 wants Joe Taxpayer to pick up this tab in a $25 Billion bailout package - soon to be increased to $45 Billion if Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have their way. The Big 3 want this money - not to build better autos. No. They want it to pay the tab for Medical and Retirement benefits for RETIRED auto workers. Not ONE PENNY would be used to make them more competitive, or to improve the quality of their cars. We ALL have problems paying for our Medical Insurance - but the Democrat leaders in Congress now want us to pay the Medical Insurance premiums of folks who have RETIRED from Ford, GM and Chrysler. Not a good deal for us. How about Chapter 11 - and getting rid of these ridiculous union contracts? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/81 859213/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snow survival
Tyler wrote: Anyone know anything about the ABS system on 80s MBs? Is it 3 or 4 channel? My W201s have a single rear ABS sensor on the pinion shaft, was that what you were asking? Most of the braking is done with the front wheels, so you don't lose much if both rear brakes get modulated when only one wheel was skidding. You might say the purpose of front ABS is to maximize braking and the purpose of rear ABS is to prevent loss of stability. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More pics of my o309d Motoroam nightmare.
Anyone know if om314 is 24v starter? On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Rolf Martin-Hoster winm...@gmail.comwrote: I am going to strip it. Not gut but get all the upholstery, carpet, fixtures etc etc. Clean and paint. I may end up gutting but I would like to avoid that. Certainly will be the hawtness for the Drive-In movies. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/e3e6f5fb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old news
In re: my post: MBUSA has released 2 new DVD's for W203 W211 chassis...first time they have released customer(client) repair info before the models were replaced! Forget this. it's very old news and I didn't see the date when I sent it. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/313b68fb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snow survival
Yep, that's what I was wondering. I would imagine that the slicker the surface, the less front-rear weight transfer before lockup, and therefore the greater importance of the rear brakes in stopping the vehicle. I would think that a true 4 channel system would give quicker stops on patchy ice, in particular. I have no idea if this effect is significant though in the real world. I could think of an imaginary situation where the right two tires are on the side of the road a bit on ice, and the left two are on dry pavement. If the front-rear weight balance of the car were about equal during braking because the car is balanced, and the max possible braking was very light then in this situation the maximum stopping force would be almost double with a 4 channel ABS system than with a 3 channel, because the 3 channel could only provide significant braking torque to a single wheel. Tyler Tyler wrote: Anyone know anything about the ABS system on 80s MBs? Is it 3 or 4 channel? My W201s have a single rear ABS sensor on the pinion shaft, was that what you were asking? Most of the braking is done with the front wheels, so you don't lose much if both rear brakes get modulated when only one wheel was skidding. You might say the purpose of front ABS is to maximize braking and the purpose of rear ABS is to prevent loss of stability. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Thanks Scott. I have downloaded and will give this a try. I don't recall if I have the service packs on this one or not. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:16 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive See: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7da725e2-8b69-4c65- afa3-2a53107d54a7displaylang=en or http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.ntbackup.aspx I seem to recall that backup did not come with XP Home originally but was part of one of the Service Pack updates (or was that ME?) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:36 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I'm adding all the management and file tools, so we will see what shows up. Every possible Windows part has been added and still no backup program. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive that is a good idea. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] add nav?
Indeed so. I just ordered a navigation update DVD for my C-300's hard drive Comand system and the price went up 25% on 1/1/2009. .How much did it cost? If I ever add the nav brain box I'd have to buy the navigation DVDs as well. I think you are talking about a W211 which has the older Comand and uses DVDs for the navigation data. Comand for the current models (W221, W204 and the GLK plus the 2010 W212 store all their data on an internal hard drive, with a separate partition for customer loaded music. The DVD I ordered ($249) updates the nav database It's true that when cost is no factor you can do anything, but retrofitting Comand is a huge project considering the wiring and the remote units and so on. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/3aa4c8c6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] floods
...yeah, how are you doing? Meadowbrook usually turns into a raging river and takes out roads. You still high and dry?.. No problem this time. The city caught so much heat for letting Thornton Creek plug up at 97th and 44th that they kept an eye on it this week. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/48c99e5e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New clock
http://obamaclock.org/ RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd =DecemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/58d52b66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's crack addict
From the looks of it, I think Mother Earth has taken quite an interest in it. :-) Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Redghost redgh...@comcast.net So offer him $120 and see how far he lets you go. Bound to not have many offers clay On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: 1961 Mercedes - $2500 (Andrews, SC) http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/983216772.html --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090108/86cc6bae/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/eade33c3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
Well, I tried to do my bit and help, I really did. Last week as you know, I walked into a Chev dealer, test drove a year old, 39,000 kms Uplander that they were asking $15,988 for. Ok, I said to the guy, I'll give you your price, $16,000 in face, and you take care of the taxes 12% and stick a plate on it, $100, and I'll write you a check. I'll leave the offer on the table for a day or so, you go and check with you manager. As it turns out, they can't sell it for that, I'm being unrealistic. Seems there are other fees. Oh really, what? Admin fees, and saftey package. Oh. So, when I walked in, you and 5 guys were sitting around, talking about the upcoming weekend, and yet, you want to charge me $500 for some admin fees? I think you can eat those fees. So what's this safety stuff? Oh, we etch a number on each panel so if the car is stolen, it can be traced, and we put nitrogen in the tires. I see. I take it the panels were already etched, being a used car, and I'll go out on a limb here and guess the tires have the same nitrogen in them as when it arrived on your used car lot? So, being a large dealer, with zero people in the showroom but me, a lot full of cars, all your staff sitting around and chatting; offering you your ASKING price, minus the taxes is unreasonable. Ok. So guys, I need help finding my next Benz. The old 300E was/is great, but this time, I'm thinking something along the lines of a newer E, no more than 10 years old, and no more than 100,000 miles or so. Thoughts and recommendations appreciated. Hey, I did my best to help out GM, I really did, but I'm only willing to help out so much. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55eb95f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/131391a6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New clock
lmao!! Ed 300E 2009/1/9 relng...@aol.com http://obamaclock.org/ RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd =DecemailfooterNO62http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62 ) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/58d52b66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/651f7351/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
Ask - one is on it's way. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: For that matter, what does one have to do to get a GMail invite? I always wondered about that, not that I need another email addy, but Dan -- OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New clock
The math is all wrong - should have multiplied X 8 yrs. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: lmao!! Ed 300E 2009/1/9 relng...@aol.com http://obamaclock.org/ RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd =DecemailfooterNO62 http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62 ) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/58d52b66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/651f7351/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/54d282f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Recalibrate W126 Speedometer
My 89 124 is cable driven. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: Is it electrical or cable driven? All 126's are electrical, IIRC. As are late-model 107 SL's. 201's are mechanical, I think 124's might be mechanical but I could easily be wrong on that. I thought everything else newer than that was electrical, and everything else older than that was mechanical. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
According to the local paper this morning, you should be able to have a brand new 08 Uplander for $17K. I cannot recall if there was enough extra 9's on the end of the number to make it essentially $18K but that sounds better than $16,000 for a used one. I think that included shipping and prep as well. I have learned to expect the silly $300 document fee and to calculate it into my offer up front rather than argue about it after I think I have a deal. I think I have only run into the etching thing once. Of course, they always try to sell you the extended warranty too. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers Well, I tried to do my bit and help, I really did. Last week as you know, I walked into a Chev dealer, test drove a year old, 39,000 kms Uplander that they were asking $15,988 for. Ok, I said to the guy, I'll give you your price, $16,000 in face, and you take care of the taxes 12% and stick a plate on it, $100, and I'll write you a check. I'll leave the offer on the table for a day or so, you go and check with you manager. As it turns out, they can't sell it for that, I'm being unrealistic. Seems there are other fees. Oh really, what? Admin fees, and saftey package. Oh. So, when I walked in, you and 5 guys were sitting around, talking about the upcoming weekend, and yet, you want to charge me $500 for some admin fees? I think you can eat those fees. So what's this safety stuff? Oh, we etch a number on each panel so if the car is stolen, it can be traced, and we put nitrogen in the tires. I see. I take it the panels were already etched, being a used car, and I'll go out on a limb here and guess the tires have the same nitrogen in them as when it arrived on your used car lot? So, being a large dealer, with zero people in the showroom but me, a lot full of cars, all your staff sitting around and chatting; offering you your ASKING price, minus the taxes is unreasonable. Ok. So guys, I need help finding my next Benz. The old 300E was/is great, but this time, I'm thinking something along the lines of a newer E, no more than 10 years old, and no more than 100,000 miles or so. Thoughts and recommendations appreciated. Hey, I did my best to help out GM, I really did, but I'm only willing to help out so much. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55eb95f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/131391a6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used
[MBZ] Mercedes S600 V12 engine - $2000 (Boston)
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Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
I don't argue or haggle, I look at their asking price, make what I feel is a reasonable out the door offer and leave it on the table for 1-2 days. What can I say, I was happy to give them a cheque for $16,000, and I felt that would have also given him a reasonable commission. Did my bit, tried to help, they weren't interested. On to the next Benz I guess. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/1/9 R A Bennell b...@mts.net According to the local paper this morning, you should be able to have a brand new 08 Uplander for $17K. I cannot recall if there was enough extra 9's on the end of the number to make it essentially $18K but that sounds better than $16,000 for a used one. I think that included shipping and prep as well. I have learned to expect the silly $300 document fee and to calculate it into my offer up front rather than argue about it after I think I have a deal. I think I have only run into the etching thing once. Of course, they always try to sell you the extended warranty too. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers Well, I tried to do my bit and help, I really did. Last week as you know, I walked into a Chev dealer, test drove a year old, 39,000 kms Uplander that they were asking $15,988 for. Ok, I said to the guy, I'll give you your price, $16,000 in face, and you take care of the taxes 12% and stick a plate on it, $100, and I'll write you a check. I'll leave the offer on the table for a day or so, you go and check with you manager. As it turns out, they can't sell it for that, I'm being unrealistic. Seems there are other fees. Oh really, what? Admin fees, and saftey package. Oh. So, when I walked in, you and 5 guys were sitting around, talking about the upcoming weekend, and yet, you want to charge me $500 for some admin fees? I think you can eat those fees. So what's this safety stuff? Oh, we etch a number on each panel so if the car is stolen, it can be traced, and we put nitrogen in the tires. I see. I take it the panels were already etched, being a used car, and I'll go out on a limb here and guess the tires have the same nitrogen in them as when it arrived on your used car lot? So, being a large dealer, with zero people in the showroom but me, a lot full of cars, all your staff sitting around and chatting; offering you your ASKING price, minus the taxes is unreasonable. Ok. So guys, I need help finding my next Benz. The old 300E was/is great, but this time, I'm thinking something along the lines of a newer E, no more than 10 years old, and no more than 100,000 miles or so. Thoughts and recommendations appreciated. Hey, I did my best to help out GM, I really did, but I'm only willing to help out so much. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55eb95f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
Listen to Ed! This is the proper way to negotiate a good deal. Generally I think that if it takes someone less than a day to accept an offer, than you probably paid too much. Tyler I don't argue or haggle, I look at their asking price, make what I feel is a reasonable out the door offer and leave it on the table for 1-2 days. What can I say, I was happy to give them a cheque for $16,000, and I felt that would have also given him a reasonable commission. Did my bit, tried to help, they weren't interested. On to the next Benz I guess. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] this is a test
I've been having problems sending mail, so I hope this goes through. klatta klatta klatta! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Good one, Mitch! I do have an advantage working in areas where one can't get enough light or when it's a job totally done by feel since it's way up under the dash. The windshield wiper linkage on one of our Pintos needed to be changed out since one side was broken, and the parts car had one to donate. I decided to give it a try since I had nothing but time. I was able to get a hand up under the dashboard to maneuver a 1/4 ratchet and socket in there to get the 3 bolts out on each side. I had to drop the radio and glovebox as well as the main defroster ducts to swap them which was the easiest part of the job, 2.5 hours from start to finish. I did have quite the sense of accomplishment afterward, but It's making the scars and remaining skin tissue on my knuckles ache just thinking about it! Anyone have a W115 heater blower motor replacement job that needs doing? I'm ready to try that next! :D Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT more GM
Is this the Ecotec 2.4L? If so, I wonder if the design was changed on the later ones that were put into the Chevy HHR's? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is a test
It arrived no problem here. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net I've been having problems sending mail, so I hope this goes through. klatta klatta klatta! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/b1bc623e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is a test
I found the problem. It appears that the message sending unit was faulty. Rather than paying $579.97 to the Mercedes-Benz Stealership, I fixed it on my own! :D Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT more GM
Kevin Kraly wrote: Is this the Ecotec 2.4L? No, the 2.4L Twin Cam was the final evolution of the 2.3L Quad 4. The 2.4L Ecotec is a grown up version of the 2.2L Saab Ecotec that started finding its way into Achievas, Grand Ams and Saturns around 2002. I don't know of any service headaches on the Ecotec, but it has a bad reputation for cam chain lube failure on engines before the 2004 model year. They increased the oil delivery to the chain for 2004, but AFAIK never admitted responsibility for broken chains on the earlier engines. Gary had a Saturn L-series with the old Ecotec. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
Admin fee my etc.! $500 to fill out a bill of sale and title application that they have to fill out anyway, and these days they should be able to punch a coupla buttons for a computer to spit 'em out. When I bought my showroom 124 few years ago, I finally got 'im to come down a measly $200; made the deal, walked across the room to his desk, and the SOB tacked it back on as admin fee. 'Made me damned mad. Like I said, Admin fee my etc.!!! Tell 'em where they can shove it. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers Well, I tried to do my bit and help, I really did. Last week as you know, I walked into a Chev dealer, test drove a year old, 39,000 kms Uplander that they were asking $15,988 for. Ok, I said to the guy, I'll give you your price, $16,000 in face, and you take care of the taxes 12% and stick a plate on it, $100, and I'll write you a check. I'll leave the offer on the table for a day or so, you go and check with you manager. As it turns out, they can't sell it for that, I'm being unrealistic. Seems there are other fees. Oh really, what? Admin fees, and saftey package. Oh. So, when I walked in, you and 5 guys were sitting around, talking about the upcoming weekend, and yet, you want to charge me $500 for some admin fees? I think you can eat those fees. So what's this safety stuff? Oh, we etch a number on each panel so if the car is stolen, it can be traced, and we put nitrogen in the tires. I see. I take it the panels were already etched, being a used car, and I'll go out on a limb here and guess the tires have the same nitrogen in them as when it arrived on your used car lot? So, being a large dealer, with zero people in the showroom but me, a lot full of cars, all your staff sitting around and chatting; offering you your ASKING price, minus the taxes is unreasonable. Ok. So guys, I need help finding my next Benz. The old 300E was/is great, but this time, I'm thinking something along the lines of a newer E, no more than 10 years old, and no more than 100,000 miles or so. Thoughts and recommendations appreciated. Hey, I did my best to help out GM, I really did, but I'm only willing to help out so much. Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Lets still face that no other industry has anything this stupid. I get laid off, my unemployment runs out and NOBODY pays me anything... Why should an autoworker be any different? I sort of appreciate your continual standing up for the automakers, it must get to be a drag. Still I'll continue to beat them up for having the GALL to expect me to bail them out after 50 years of bad choices. Yeah their legacy costs are high, why haven't they done anything about it? Smart companies look for things like this BEFORE they become an issue... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:47:31 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 05e801c97282$58b3c0a0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 The fourth case is what the author really meant when discussing the job bank. It?s the SUB pay program. And yes, laid off workers qualify for SUB pay but the program only kicks in after unemployment, only pays up to 85% after unemployment and the actual weekly benefit paid is scaled based on years of service. In other words, the actual check received could be 40% or less, depending on years of service. And to qualify for unemployment, all states require you to look for a job. Find a replacement job and the unemployment goes away, making the SUB pay disappear at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/55e b95f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/13 1391a6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] this is a test
ATTABOY!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] this is a test I found the problem. It appears that the message sending unit was faulty. Rather than paying $579.97 to the Mercedes-Benz Stealership, I fixed it on my own! :D Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is a test
you failed Kevin Kraly wrote: I've been having problems sending mail, so I hope this goes through. klatta klatta klatta! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Autoworkers
I received the following from a couple of sources (which makes it particularly suspect) but some of you seem to have an inside perspective on the Detroit auto industry and may want to comment. Also, in my experience labor cost is 1.5x to 2x what employees actually receive in salary. - I'm still trying to verify the facts, but I think it is close, According to Forbes: Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for hourly workers. Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year) GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year) Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year) Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year) According to AAUP and IES, the average annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary nationally of $73,207 + 27% benefits). Bottom Line: The average UAW worker with a high school diploma earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university professor with a Ph.D., and 52.6% more than the average worker at Toyota, Honda or Nissan. Many industry analysts say the Detroit Three, need be on par with Toyota and Honda to compete/survive. This year's contract, they say, must be transformational in reducing pension and health care costs. What would transformational mean? One way to think about transformational would mean that UAW workers, most with a high school diploma, would have to accept compensation equal to that of the average university professor with a PhD. Then there's the Job Bank When a D3 (Detroit 3 carmaker) lays an employee off, that employee continues to receive all benefits - medical, retirement, etc., etc., PLUS an hourly wage of $31/hour. Here's a typical story Ken Pool is making good money. On weekdays, he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.'s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then starts working -- on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits. We just go in and play crossword puzzles, watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper, he says. Otherwise, I just sit. Pool is one of more than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up by Detroit automakers as demanded by the United Auto Workers Union - UAW - as part of an extraordinary job security agreement. Now the D3 wants Joe Taxpayer to pick up this tab in a $25 Billion bailout package - soon to be increased to $45 Billion if Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have their way. The Big 3 want this money - not to build better autos. No. They want it to pay the tab for Medical and Retirement benefits for RETIRED auto workers. Not ONE PENNY would be used to make them more competitive, or to improve the quality of their cars. We ALL have problems paying for our Medical Insurance - but the Democrat leaders in Congress now want us to pay the Medical Insurance premiums of folks who have RETIRED from Ford, GM and Chrysler. Not a good deal for us. How about Chapter 11 - and getting rid of these ridiculous union contracts? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/3d28d649/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes 190d 2.2L w/Automatic - too slow?
I'm considering purchasing a '84 190D 2.2L with a bad automatic transmission. I've never driven a 190D 2.2L but I hear they are quite slow, especially for town driving. We currently have an '84 300D and I really don't want anything slower than the 300D. Would converting the 190D to a 5 speed manual make a big difference in acceleration? I've driven 240D manuals and automatics and the manual car was acceptable but the automatic was too slow. Anyone know what is involved to convert the 190D auto to a manual? Thanks in advance, Terry Geiger www.GeigerGarage.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/d7e7ace9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 190d 2.2L w/Automatic - too slow?
Yea they are slow but not too bad once you get used to it. Converting to a 5 speed would be a big job. It would require basically you have another 5 speed car sitting next to it so you can swap everything over. Terry Geiger wrote: I'm considering purchasing a '84 190D 2.2L with a bad automatic transmission. I've never driven a 190D 2.2L but I hear they are quite slow, especially for town driving. We currently have an '84 300D and I really don't want anything slower than the 300D. Would converting the 190D to a 5 speed manual make a big difference in acceleration? I've driven 240D manuals and automatics and the manual car was acceptable but the automatic was too slow. Anyone know what is involved to convert the 190D auto to a manual? Thanks in advance, Terry Geiger www.GeigerGarage.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/d7e7ace9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
E M wrote: I don't argue or haggle, I look at their asking price, make what I feel is a reasonable out the door offer and leave it on the table for 1-2 days. What can I say, I was happy to give them a cheque for $16,000, and I felt that would have also given him a reasonable commission. And you learned that they'd rather sit around playing euchre until they get laid off from their jobs than to deal with you. I don't think I'd set foot in that particular shop again. Here in the states, we can just go two miles down the street to the next GM dealership. How far is your next nearest Chebby dealer? One method I've wanted to try is just bypass the salescritters entirely. Get the name of the mew car manager or the fleet sales manager, and the fax number. Do this for every Brand X dealership within 100 miles or so. Send them all a nice fax at 8AM: I am going to buy a HHR with the following options today. _ I am sending this fax to several dealers. Please respond with your best price. The last new purchase I was involved with, there was a Dodge dealer advertising 1.5% below invoice less incentives plus advertising surcharge on special orders. I faxed the options list to that dealer's fleet manager, he faxed me the order sheet and price quote, and I gave it to my father. Dad wasn't too keen on buying from a dealer 80 miles away, even with free driveway delivery, so he went to a dealer 20 miles away and they ended up selling him one for invoice with free lifetime oil changes. So he paid $300 more, but they change his oil, with Mopar filter, every three months or 3,000 miles. So far he's gotten about 25 oil changes for that $300. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
I downloaded each of the two options on the MS site, and neither would work; I went to the other site and it will not display on my computer. I think I need to be more diligent about backing up my files on the second drive. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:06 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Thanks Scott. I have downloaded and will give this a try. I don't recall if I have the service packs on this one or not. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:16 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive See: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7da725e2-8b69-4c65- afa3-2a53107d54a7displaylang=en or http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.ntbackup.aspx I seem to recall that backup did not come with XP Home originally but was part of one of the Service Pack updates (or was that ME?) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:36 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I'm adding all the management and file tools, so we will see what shows up. Every possible Windows part has been added and still no backup program. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive that is a good idea. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote: go into add/remove programs,then select windows options or something like that, gives you a list of all the optional windows parts that are installed. Perhaps its just not selected. Bill R wrote: Perhaps the problem is that mine is the Home Edition, not the Pro. I can get to system tools easily enough, but there is no 'backup' choice. I am doing a search for the ntbackup.exe file at the moment ... no luck there either. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autoworkers
Not very far at all. And between those two Chev dealers, is a Ford dealer, a Chrysler dealer, a Toyota dealer, a Honda dealer, and oh yeah, more places selling used Mercedes than I can count. I suspect I'll stumble into one of them before I make it as far as the next Chev dealer. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/1/9 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Here in the states, we can just go two miles down the street to the next GM dealership. How far is your next nearest Chebby dealer? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/9b2eba48/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
You are going to be so embarrassed about doing that! Proves that you too are stuck in 2004. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ask - one is on it's way. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: For that matter, what does one have to do to get a GMail invite? I always wondered about that, not that I need another email addy, but Dan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/e49565ab/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 190d 2.2L w/Automatic - too slow?
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:30:40 -0600 Terry Geiger tgei...@geigergarage.com wrote: Would converting the 190D to a 5 speed manual make a big difference in acceleration? I don't know the answer to that. I've driven 240D manuals and automatics and the manual car was acceptable but the automatic was too slow. You can manually shift the 240D automatic through the gears -- it's a lot faster that way. Just be careful in shifting to L and then slowing down -- that's what broke our 240D automatic. Anyone know what is involved to convert the 190D auto to a manual? When our 240D's automatic transmission broke, I converted it to a 300D with a manual transmission. Much better. It's a lot of work. You need to change the flywheel and match-balance the new one to the old (I did not on an OM617 and got away with it), put a pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft, mount the clutch plates to the new flywheel, mate the transmission to the engine, change the rear support member's location (and maybe the rear support member), change the driveshaft, and change the differential (at least for 240D - 300D). You also need to get the pedal hanger and other hardware to operate the clutch. It helps to have a parts car available that's in the configuration to which you want to change your car. I did. Seeing www.GeigerGarage.com, however, it seems you're up to the challenge. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New repair DVD's available
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:14:49 -0600 John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: I called the 800 number to get my W211 DVD a while back. What's the 800 number? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
I have only one thought on this thread and its the windows FAST. Which is the Files And Settings Transfer. This is on the install cd you are able to use this and burn copy to a thumb drive or cd. This is what you want to transfer. I have used it and it works.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FINALLY !!!
Our son called us tonight to let us know that the two month Yankee White background check [which can take as much as six months these days] was finally completed and he has a start date with the White House Communications Office [he was told the 19th, which is a holiday, so he expects to start on the following Monday after the inauguration]. That is a big relief for him, as the job offer came on 11/11 and he has just been waiting around in an empty apartment he leased up there. He is finally buying furniture and getting set up in his apartment. Sue and I are flying up in early Feb. to see the new place and DC. Not a bad gig at all for a 25 YO's first civilian job after leaving the USAF. BillR, Proud Dad -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/4c405dea/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
That one I have for sure. I'll check it out. Thanks BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I have only one thought on this thread and its the windows FAST. Which is the Files And Settings Transfer. This is on the install cd you are able to use this and burn copy to a thumb drive or cd. This is what you want to transfer. I have used it and it works.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 190d 2.2L w/Automatic - too slow?
My understanding is that most of the parts for the swap can be obtained from a gasoline manual 190D. You might still need a diesel flywheel and rear diff... Also, I've noticed that 190D injector pumps provide a very rough transition between coasting and power, as the fuel is suddenly turned on and off to the engine as if it were shut off when you let off the throttle. I think that manual cars are equipped with some sort of device to smooth out the fuel delivery as to prevent the car from bucking hard... Anyone know more about this? I want to convert my 190DT to manual, once I find a suitable parts donor in the junkyard, so I've started researching it a bit, and there are several people out there that have already done the conversion. Tyler I'm considering purchasing a '84 190D 2.2L with a bad automatic transmission. I've never driven a 190D 2.2L but I hear they are quite slow, especially for town driving. We currently have an '84 300D and I really don't want anything slower than the 300D. Would converting the 190D to a 5 speed manual make a big difference in acceleration? I've driven 240D manuals and automatics and the manual car was acceptable but the automatic was too slow. Anyone know what is involved to convert the 190D auto to a manual? Thanks in advance, Terry Geiger www.GeigerGarage.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - maple syrup
'Received maple syrup from Simpson's Sugar Shack, Charlotte, MI, this afternoon. 'Couldn't wait for pancakes or waffles; 'made couple pieces of toast as substitute waffles, poured some syrup over 'em in a plate and enjoyed some mighty (that's Southern for very) fine tasting syrup. Plan to get appropriate pancakes and waffles tomorrow. Thanks, Mitch 'Said to SWMBO while I was sampling my maple syrup toast, We can have the Simpsons send some syrup for Christmas gifts this year. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Do you have the latest virus definitions or just the ones it came with originally. I just recently installed Avira personal which is also free. Don't know if this is a false positive find or not. Manfred Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:17:57 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I downloaded and ran it with no problems. I use Avast! free home computer protection. It listed the key for all my MS stuff and a couple of other things. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Bill, You have to look back to an earlier month to find the last restore point. The dates that have restore points are in bold numbers. Also most installs and uninstalls of programs also set restore pointer. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:31:27 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is a test
Kaleb wrote: you failed Hahahahaha! I'm glad it's sorted out now. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1978 240D craigslist ad
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/986790643.html Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
I don't think I've made it to the 21st. century yet --- On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: You are going to be so embarrassed about doing that! Proves that you too are stuck in 2004. -- OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - maple syrup
Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Received maple syrup from Simpson's Sugar Shack, Charlotte, MI, this afternoon. 'Couldn't wait for pancakes or waffles; 'made couple pieces of toast as substitute waffles, poured some syrup over 'em in a plate and enjoyed some mighty (that's Southern for very) fine tasting syrup. Plan to get appropriate pancakes and waffles tomorrow. Thanks, Mitch 'Said to SWMBO while I was sampling my maple syrup toast, We can have the Simpsons send some syrup for Christmas gifts this year. Did Max have Simpson's Sugar Shack shipping labels, or did Simpson Performance (hot rod tractor shop) ship it to you? Max Simpson is semi-famous in tractor pulling competition circles, I forgot to tell Wilton that. Hey, Spudboy and Rolf, if you ever want a load sensitive water injection system, there's a guy here in Charlotte, Michigan that makes a good one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 190d 2.2L w/Automatic - too slow?
Tyler wrote: I think that manual cars are equipped with some sort of device to smooth out the fuel delivery as to prevent the car from bucking hard... Anyone know more about this? Yep, Jim Cathey had to put the throttle shock absorber on his IP. Probably has a page on his web site devoted to it. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
You won't get there until you get an HDTV and a Blackberry (neither of which I own). On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:09 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think I've made it to the 21st. century yet --- On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: You are going to be so embarrassed about doing that! Proves that you too are stuck in 2004. -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090109/215fdab5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Thus far I have been happier and had better luck with the free Avast! program and automatic daily updates than the professional version of Norton security provided to all the home computers by my wife's company. Let me know how the Avira lasts just in case. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Do you have the latest virus definitions or just the ones it came with originally. I just recently installed Avira personal which is also free. Don't know if this is a false positive find or not. Manfred Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:17:57 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive I downloaded and ran it with no problems. I use Avast! free home computer protection. It listed the key for all my MS stuff and a couple of other things. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
Tried it, but when I try to go back to one of those it doesn't work. I think it might have on a backup of one or two days, but I think even then I had to reinstall everything. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Bill, You have to look back to an earlier month to find the last restore point. The dates that have restore points are in bold numbers. Also most installs and uninstalls of programs also set restore pointer. Manfred Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:31:27 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive Loren - I use XP, which does not have 'backup.' It has a system restore feature, which I have set a few times, but any time I have needed it there has not been a restore point even though I have created several. Should I use one available on the internet? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - maple syrup
The jugs have Simpson's Sugar Shack labels. 'Talked to Mrs. Simpson several days ago. She told me about Max's tractor pulling. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - maple syrup Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Received maple syrup from Simpson's Sugar Shack, Charlotte, MI, this afternoon. 'Couldn't wait for pancakes or waffles; 'made couple pieces of toast as substitute waffles, poured some syrup over 'em in a plate and enjoyed some mighty (that's Southern for very) fine tasting syrup. Plan to get appropriate pancakes and waffles tomorrow. Thanks, Mitch 'Said to SWMBO while I was sampling my maple syrup toast, We can have the Simpsons send some syrup for Christmas gifts this year. Did Max have Simpson's Sugar Shack shipping labels, or did Simpson Performance (hot rod tractor shop) ship it to you? Max Simpson is semi-famous in tractor pulling competition circles, I forgot to tell Wilton that. Hey, Spudboy and Rolf, if you ever want a load sensitive water injection system, there's a guy here in Charlotte, Michigan that makes a good one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net
Im still stuck in the 80's but slowly working up to the 90's OK Don wrote: I don't think I've made it to the 21st. century yet --- On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: You are going to be so embarrassed about doing that! Proves that you too are stuck in 2004. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
