Re: [MBZ] Leaky W123 fuel line stubby end piece

[Jim Cathey]

What do you call that 1" stub of plugged fuel line on the last 
injector?


I call it "that 1" stub of plugged fuel line on the last injector."

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Skabe-O-pell

[RELNGSON]

> 
> ...http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,620020,00.html#ref=nlint
> Roger will have to go out and buy himself another Porsche or twenty..
> 
Since this article is about a SAAB-Opel merger with GM giving SAAB away 
just to get rid of it, I don't see the Porsche connection. Even with 911 sales 
down 42%.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[Allan Streib]

Honestly, unless it's a relative new and large capacity drive, it's
probably not worth the trouble.  An old 2GB drive for example is hardly
worth bothering with, considering any new PC will likely have a 120GB or
larger hard drive out of the box.  That 2GB drive does not really add
much capacity, and if it's old its lifespan may be nearing its end.

E M  writes:

> hmmm, I'll have to open the new computer up over the weekend and see if the
> cables will allow me to add another HD.  I might just give it a shot and see
> what happens.
>
> So once the second HD is installed internally, the comp should see it as an
> extra drive, no other messing about needed?  I guess if it doesn't work, I
> can always go back to the way things were.
>
> I think me new comp is a slim case like yours Wilton, but there seems to be
> one or two free bays.
>
> Ed
> 300E

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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:05:53 -0500 Wonko the Sane 
wrote:

> And I can't get BBC Television online in the US. We all bear our
> crosses.
> 
> Pandora asks you like (i.e., Grateful Dead) and feeds you similar songs.
> You'd do just as well finding streaming audio to suit your tastes. If
> you like classical, as Wilton and I do, you can't go wrong with what he
> suggested. If you like classic rock, one of our Des Moines radio
> stations (KGGO) streams online and has a pretty good mix. For jazz,
> SmoothJazz.com can't be beat. ... I've been known to dip into all three,
> although it is WCPE 99% of the time. Sometimes, after a stressful hour
> long meeting, Mozart doesn't cut it, and one needs a couple of minutes
> of Led Zepplin.


You can also try:

Radio Swiss Classic
http://www.radioswissclassic.ch/en/playlist
No commercials. Announcements in German, French, or Italian.
Streaming content only.


Radio Suisse Romande Espace 2
http://www.rsr.ch/espace-2/les-emissions
Many types of programming (I listen to the 0600 - 0900 Sunday
morning programs. Announcements in French only (though I do not speak
French). Content is streamed AND archived for several weeks -- I
listen to Sunday morning's programs during the week at work. Baroque
liturgical music is my favorite. Each week I download the RealAudio
URL and copy and paste the program's content. They archive the
programs a few weeks beyond the calendar on their playlist page.


University of Oregon, KWAX, Eugene
http://www.kwax.com/programming.php
(KWAX is the sound a duck makes). My dad lived in Eugene. We listen
Sunday mornings to their program, "The Organ Loft." The organ is my
favorite instrument; J.S. Bach is my favorite composer.


There is also PopFind at http://www.popfind.com/ListenRadioStations.html.
It's a listing of the most popular Radio Stations on the Internet, of
many different genres. Also list BBC Radio 1, BBC World Service Live, and
BBC World Service News



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:03:01 -0400 E M  wrote:

> hmmm, I'll have to open the new computer up over the weekend and see if
> the cables will allow me to add another HD.  I might just give it a shot
> and see what happens.

Wilton's is installed in a separate case, external from the computer. He
was talking about taking the disk out of the old computer and putting it
in an external box that's connected to the new computer with a USB cable.


> So once the second HD is installed internally, the comp should see it as
> an extra drive, no other messing about needed?  I guess if it doesn't
> work, I can always go back to the way things were.

As you commented earlier, connecting a disk internally is harder. You have
the possibility of different types of data busses, as well as the need to
set jumpers on some types of disks.

Once you do have the disk connected correctly internally, you may have
more difficulty in assigning it a disk letter (i.e., something like E:\).
With the external disk Winders knows to add it automatically.


> I think me new comp is a slim case like yours Wilton, but there seems to
> be one or two free bays.

Go the way (internal or external) you feel most comfortable with.


Craig


P.S. Notice all the junk at the bottom I trimmed off?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody else seen?

[Steve MacSween]

WOW

http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/Scamps.html




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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[E M]

hmmm, I'll have to open the new computer up over the weekend and see if the
cables will allow me to add another HD.  I might just give it a shot and see
what happens.

So once the second HD is installed internally, the comp should see it as an
extra drive, no other messing about needed?  I guess if it doesn't work, I
can always go back to the way things were.

I think me new comp is a slim case like yours Wilton, but there seems to be
one or two free bays.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

> My old HD connected to the new computer doesn't know nor care if it's
> inside or outside; 'works the same either way and was plug-and-play easy -
> 'just plug it in, turn it on and it's done.
>
> BTW, my old computer was fine for what I need if I could have depended on
> its working when I needed it; it "hung up"/stopped too much; had to reboot
> often, etc., and, of course, I couldn't get upgraded programs for some stuff
> I wanted to run.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:09 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer
>
>
>  I was thinking about installing the old HD internally into the new pc, but
>> someone told me, you have to fiddle with pins on the back of the HD to
>> tell
>> the comp it's a slave drive.  It all started to sound pretty confusing
>> fast.
>> lol
>>
>> My plan for the future is to keep most info on external drives, and the
>> comp
>> pretty much free.  Haven't decided if the next comp will be another
>> desktop,
>> or take the jump and go laptop.  For me, storage was always the biggest
>> issue with computers and what made me upgrade to newer stuff.  Truth is,
>> for
>> 95% of what I do, a 10 year old pc works pretty much ok, other than you
>> become stuck with hardware that won't allow softward upgrades.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> 2009/4/20 WILTON 
>>
>>  Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though,
>>> I
>>> removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure
>>> (ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new
>>> machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done
>>> that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff
>>> very
>>> easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min.
>>> order
>>> charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely
>>> easy
>>> to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in the
>>> two
>>> cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable into new
>>> computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the enclosure's
>>> power
>>> switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the new
>>> machine
>>> as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.  After
>>> I
>>> get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for backup
>>> or
>>> whatever.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer
>>>
>>>
>>>  Wilton,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older
>>>> machines,
>>>> both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
>>>> machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using
>>>> one
>>>> in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto
>>>> your
>>>> Vista machine?
>>>>
>>>> Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but
>>>> right
>>>> now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had
>>>> much
>>>> luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
>>>> honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs
>>>> over
>>>> from other machines.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Wilton.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>> 300E
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/20 WILTON 
>>>>
>>>&g

[MBZ] Anyone want to buy an automobile............business

[Hendrik & Fay]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,620020,00.html#ref=nlint
Roger will have to go out and buy himself another Porsche or twenty

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,619916,00.html#ref=nlint
Free to a good home

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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[E M]

Hi Wilton,

Yes, the link you provided seems to work fine here in Canada.  Pandora
seemed to pick up that I was from Canada from my IP number, and said they
are currently in the process of negotiating rights to broadcast outside the
US, but are currently limiting their service to within the US only.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

> Ed, doesn't WCPE, theclassicalstation.org, work there?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:02 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] radio online
>
>
>  Doesn't work outside the US.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> 2009/4/20 Dwight E. Giles, Jr 
>>
>>  Have you tried Pandora.com? I listen to classical there.
>>> Dwight
>>>
>>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
>>> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.
>>> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
>>> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
>>> Wickford, RI
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
>>> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>>> On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:34 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] radio online
>>>
>>> > BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new
>>> > computer.  'Sure is nice!..
>>> >
>>> If you have downloaded ITunes, you have access to a long list of radio
>>> stations online but you do need a high speed connection. I listen mostly
>>> to
>>> Classical UK and WHRO.
>>>
>>> RLE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Creating a 240 3.0 (T)D

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:10:47 -0500 Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> Don't know why it wouldn't work, but you do need to swap the rear  
> end, else your top speed will still be 85 mph.
> 
> You may need to swap the tranny mounting plate on the rear of the block.

You may also have to move the rear transmission mounting cross member and
change the front section of the driveshaft.


Craig


> Peter
> 
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:
> 
> > If you think I asked this same question a couple of years ago, yeah  
> > I did
> > but I lost a hard drive in the interim so bear with me as I cannot  
> > remember
> > where the discussion went.
> >
> > I have a 240d with a toasted motor that I want to convert to a 5  
> > cyl. diesel
> > or turbodiesel. But I want to keep the 240d AUTOMATIC transmission,  
> > as it
> > performs like new.
> >
> > Has anyone actually mated a 617.952 to the AUTOBOX installed in 240d?
> >
> > One local Benz wrench swears he did such a swap at least once,  
> > years go.
> > Other says it won't work.
> >
> > Thx
> >
> > Mac
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody else seen?

[OK Don]

Since I don't have to work on my cars every weekend now, my eye has been
wandering towards --
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/
for a project.
This is the second choice -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TailwindForum/

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/CycleKart.html
>
> I think I'm going to have to push to get my hovercraft done so I can start
> on my next project...
>
> -Curt
>
> --
> OK Don
> Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
> KD5NRO
> "The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy" Baron
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Re: [MBZ] Leaky W123 fuel line stubby end piece

[WILTON]

It's merely a very short piece of injector fuel return line/tubing that 
Rusty and "stealers" sell by the meter.  If you have some new return tubing, 
cut a short piece of it, pull the plug out of the old piece, push it into 
the new piece and push the short piece of tubing onto the injector "nipple." 
If you don't have any new tubing, look at the return lines on the other 
injectors; if one of the other return lines is excessively long, cut off a 
short piece of it to make a plug to use on that last "nipple."


Wilton

 Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:24 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Leaky W123 fuel line stubby end piece


What do you call that 1" stub of plugged fuel line on the last injector? 
I

ned to replace it because it is leaking, but I can't find it on the parts
diagram and don't know what's its called.  I used to carry a spare in the
glove box but sold that car...
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[MBZ] Leaky W123 fuel line stubby end piece

[andrew strasfogel]

What do you call that 1" stub of plugged fuel line on the last injector?  I
ned to replace it because it is leaking, but I can't find it on the parts
diagram and don't know what's its called.  I used to carry a spare in the
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Re: [MBZ] More windows -- 126 swtich removal?

[Rich Thomas]

Excellent, that will help tremendously when I can get the car nailed down.

--R

WILTON wrote:

Following are procedures for removal of 126 center console/switches:

1.  Open the ashtray and remove the inner tray by lifting it up and out.

2.  This will reveal two small screws securing the ashtray holder to the
console.

3.  Remove the two screws (use a magnetic bit to prevent dropping them 
- if you drop one, it's HISTORY, lost forever down in the console 
innards).


4.  Pull the ashtray holder up and out to the right, either unplugging 
the electrical wire or leaving it dangling out of the way.


5.  Pull forward on the small tray in front of the wood panel (between 
the ashtray and the console) and remove it


6.  Use a thin bladed instrument such as a paring knife or 
plastic-edged wedge tool to pry up the plastic bezel around the 
gearshift lever - be careful to avoid scratching the wood finish


7.  Pull the wood panel forward to free securing tabs at thre rear of 
the panel from the console houaisng.  As you lift the panel up and out 
with one

hand, you will have to use the other to remove (unplug) all the wire
connectors from the switches on the panel.  There are LOTS of them.  
You may have to yank hard on some of them.


8.  With the wood out of the car, examine the staples securing the black
plastic switch armature to the underside of the panel.  You will 
likely find some of them have loosened, and although you can push them 
back in, they will not stay.  Use VERY small wood screws to replace 
the loose staples. Here, you're on your own - one false move with a 
too-long screw and you'll ruin the

top side of your wood.

9.  Installation is the reverse of the above.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: [MBZ] More windows -- 126 swtich removal?


I think the switches on the 300SD need to be cleaned, either 
non-working or intermittent.  Anyway, I took the switches and panel 
out of the 300SD junker, vaguely recall the panel sliding forward 
then up and over the shifter, with the little bin removed?  The 
switches come out when the little ears are squeezed, but you gotta do 
that from under the panel.  I looked in the maint manual, it is also 
rather vague on the procedure.  Do I have that correct?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] hovering

[RELNGSON]

> ...I think I'm going to have to push to get my hovercraft done so I can 
> start on my next project...
> 
> Is that the one that's full of eels?

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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[Wonko the Sane]

And I can't get BBC Television online in the US. We all bear our crosses.

Pandora asks you like (i.e., Grateful Dead) and feeds you similar songs.
You'd do just as well finding streaming audio to suit your tastes. If you
like classical, as Wilton and I do, you can't go wrong with what he
suggested. If you like classic rock, one of our Des Moines radio stations
(KGGO) streams online and has a pretty good mix. For jazz, SmoothJazz.com
can't be beat. ... I've been known to dip into all three, although it is
WCPE 99% of the time. Sometimes, after a stressful hour long meeting, Mozart
doesn't cut it, and one needs a couple of minutes of Led Zepplin.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, E M  wrote:

> Doesn't work outside the US.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> 2009/4/20 Dwight E. Giles, Jr 
>
> > Have you tried Pandora.com? I listen to classical there.
> > Dwight
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[Wonko the Sane]

Just pour a 1/4 cup of Mobil 1 15-W-50 into one of the USB ports.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM, E M  wrote:

> I can't find the drain plug on this HP anywhere.  lol
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> 2009/4/20 WILTON 
>
> > BTW, Ed, if you can change the oil or a light bulb, etc., on a Mercedes,
> > you can move that old Win 98 HD to the new computer like I did.  I don't
> > know 'bout the Mac stuff, though.
> >
> > Wilton
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[WILTON]

Ed, doesn't WCPE, theclassicalstation.org, work there?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] radio online



Doesn't work outside the US.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 Dwight E. Giles, Jr 


Have you tried Pandora.com? I listen to classical there.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
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On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com
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> BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new
> computer.  'Sure is nice!..
>
If you have downloaded ITunes, you have access to a long list of radio
stations online but you do need a high speed connection. I listen mostly 
to

Classical UK and WHRO.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[WILTON]

My old HD connected to the new computer doesn't know nor care if it's inside 
or outside; 'works the same either way and was plug-and-play easy - 'just 
plug it in, turn it on and it's done.


BTW, my old computer was fine for what I need if I could have depended on 
its working when I needed it; it "hung up"/stopped too much; had to reboot 
often, etc., and, of course, I couldn't get upgraded programs for some stuff 
I wanted to run.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer



I was thinking about installing the old HD internally into the new pc, but
someone told me, you have to fiddle with pins on the back of the HD to 
tell
the comp it's a slave drive.  It all started to sound pretty confusing 
fast.

lol

My plan for the future is to keep most info on external drives, and the 
comp
pretty much free.  Haven't decided if the next comp will be another 
desktop,

or take the jump and go laptop.  For me, storage was always the biggest
issue with computers and what made me upgrade to newer stuff.  Truth is, 
for

95% of what I do, a 10 year old pc works pretty much ok, other than you
become stuck with hardware that won't allow softward upgrades.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though, 
I

removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure
(ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new
machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done
that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff 
very
easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min. 
order
charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely 
easy
to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in the 
two

cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable into new
computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the enclosure's 
power
switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the new 
machine
as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.  After 
I
get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for backup 
or

whatever.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer


 Wilton,


I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older
machines,
both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using
one
in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto 
your

Vista machine?

Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but
right
now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had 
much

luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs
over
from other machines.

Thanks Wilton.

Regards,

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

 BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new 
computer.

 'Sure is nice!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[Peter Frederick]

Macs are easier -- I have hooked up all sorts of combinations of hard  
drives (SCSI, IDE, external, internal,  firewire, USB) with no  
trouble at all.


They also read Windoze and DOS disks and hard drives, although the  
programs will only run if you have the correct emulation software  
loaded.


Peter

On Apr 20, 2009, at 8:09 PM, E M wrote:

I was thinking about installing the old HD internally into the new  
pc, but
someone told me, you have to fiddle with pins on the back of the HD  
to tell
the comp it's a slave drive.  It all started to sound pretty  
confusing fast.

lol

My plan for the future is to keep most info on external drives, and  
the comp
pretty much free.  Haven't decided if the next comp will be another  
desktop,
or take the jump and go laptop.  For me, storage was always the  
biggest
issue with computers and what made me upgrade to newer stuff.   
Truth is, for
95% of what I do, a 10 year old pc works pretty much ok, other than  
you

become stuck with hardware that won't allow softward upgrades.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago,  
though, I
removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD  
enclosure
(ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the  
new
machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I  
had done
that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of  
stuff very
easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping,  
min. order
charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.   
'Extremely easy
to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug  
in the two
cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable  
into new
computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the  
enclosure's power
switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the  
new machine
as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.   
After I
get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for  
backup or

whatever.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer


 Wilton,


I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older
machines,
both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you  
mentioned using

one
in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers  
onto your

Vista machine?

Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD,  
but

right
now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't  
had much
luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0,  
and to be
honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about  
switching HDs

over
from other machines.

Thanks Wilton.

Regards,

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

 BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new  
computer.

 'Sure is nice!

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Re: [MBZ] Creating a 240 3.0 (T)D

[Peter Frederick]

Don't know why it wouldn't work, but you do need to swap the rear  
end, else your top speed will still be 85 mph.


You may need to swap the tranny mounting plate on the rear of the block.

Peter

On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:

If you think I asked this same question a couple of years ago, yeah  
I did
but I lost a hard drive in the interim so bear with me as I cannot  
remember

where the discussion went.

I have a 240d with a toasted motor that I want to convert to a 5  
cyl. diesel
or turbodiesel. But I want to keep the 240d AUTOMATIC transmission,  
as it

performs like new.

Has anyone actually mated a 617.952 to the AUTOBOX installed in 240d?

One local Benz wrench swears he did such a swap at least once,  
years go.

Other says it won't work.

Thx

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[E M]

I was thinking about installing the old HD internally into the new pc, but
someone told me, you have to fiddle with pins on the back of the HD to tell
the comp it's a slave drive.  It all started to sound pretty confusing fast.
lol

My plan for the future is to keep most info on external drives, and the comp
pretty much free.  Haven't decided if the next comp will be another desktop,
or take the jump and go laptop.  For me, storage was always the biggest
issue with computers and what made me upgrade to newer stuff.  Truth is, for
95% of what I do, a 10 year old pc works pretty much ok, other than you
become stuck with hardware that won't allow softward upgrades.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

> Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though, I
> removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure
> (ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new
> machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done
> that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff very
> easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min. order
> charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely easy
> to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in the two
> cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable into new
> computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the enclosure's power
> switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the new machine
> as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.  After I
> get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for backup or
> whatever.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer
>
>
>  Wilton,
>>
>> I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older
>> machines,
>> both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
>> machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using
>> one
>> in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto your
>> Vista machine?
>>
>> Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but
>> right
>> now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had much
>> luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
>> honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs
>> over
>> from other machines.
>>
>> Thanks Wilton.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> 2009/4/20 WILTON 
>>
>>  BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
>>>  'Sure is nice!
>>>
>>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[E M]

I can't find the drain plug on this HP anywhere.  lol

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

> BTW, Ed, if you can change the oil or a light bulb, etc., on a Mercedes,
> you can move that old Win 98 HD to the new computer like I did.  I don't
> know 'bout the Mac stuff, though.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:59 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer
>
>
>  Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though, I
>> removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure
>> (ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new
>> machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done
>> that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff very
>> easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min. order
>> charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely easy
>> to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in the two
>> cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable into new
>> computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the enclosure's power
>> switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the new machine
>> as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.  After I
>> get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for backup or
>> whatever.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer
>>
>>
>>  Wilton,
>>>
>>> I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older
>>> machines,
>>> both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
>>> machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using
>>> one
>>> in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto your
>>> Vista machine?
>>>
>>> Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but
>>> right
>>> now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had much
>>> luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
>>> honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs
>>> over
>>> from other machines.
>>>
>>> Thanks Wilton.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> 300E
>>>
>>> 2009/4/20 WILTON 
>>>
>>>  BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new
>>>> computer.
>>>>  'Sure is nice!
>>>>
>>>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[E M]

Doesn't work outside the US.

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 Dwight E. Giles, Jr 

> Have you tried Pandora.com? I listen to classical there.
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
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> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
> Wickford, RI
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> On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] radio online
>
> > BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new
> > computer.  'Sure is nice!..
> >
> If you have downloaded ITunes, you have access to a long list of radio
> stations online but you do need a high speed connection. I listen mostly to
> Classical UK and WHRO.
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[MBZ] Creating a 240 3.0 (T)D

[Steve MacSween]

If you think I asked this same question a couple of years ago, yeah I did
but I lost a hard drive in the interim so bear with me as I cannot remember
where the discussion went.

I have a 240d with a toasted motor that I want to convert to a 5 cyl. diesel
or turbodiesel. But I want to keep the 240d AUTOMATIC transmission, as it
performs like new.

Has anyone actually mated a 617.952 to the AUTOBOX installed in 240d?

One local Benz wrench swears he did such a swap at least once, years go.
Other says it won't work.

Thx

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals

[Steve MacSween]

Likely to cause problems sorting out an even idle?

The reason I ask is that I once forgot to install one seal/shield on my 240d
and it idled really strange.

Mac

on 4/20/09 18:56, Peter Frederick at psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Sluggish performance, fuel bubbling out around the injectors.  Could
> burn the pre-chambers if they leak really badly, but otherwise no
> real issuse, I don't think.  If it starts and runs, they are sealed
> pretty well.
> 
> May toast the injector nozzles though.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
>> I've had several diesels that were missing the seals, more
>> correctly called
>> heat shields. I saw no damage to the engine and as soon as I
>> realized they
>> were missing, I installed them.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Hargrave
>> www.kegkits.com
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>> On Behalf Of Steve MacSween
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>> Subject: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals
>> 
>> Anyone want to tell me what the immediate (performance) and LONG-TERM
>> effects of this might be on an OM617.952 (say driving 2 years that
>> way)?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Mac
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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Have you tried Pandora.com? I listen to classical there. 
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:34 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] radio online

> BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new 
> computer.  'Sure is nice!..
> 
If you have downloaded ITunes, you have access to a long list of radio 
stations online but you do need a high speed connection. I listen mostly to 
Classical UK and WHRO.

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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

[Tom Hargrave]

Thanks,
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   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
--  -  - ---  -   -  ---  -  -  -
-

090420  2.221  2.264  2.403   2.392   2.197   2.166   2.186  2.274  2.327
2.340
090413  2.229  2.273  2.420   2.402   2.204   2.175   2.202  2.250  2.336
2.350
090406  2.228  2.279  2.429   2.419   2.205   2.178   2.210  2.213  2.311
2.335
090330  2.221  2.281  2.424   2.399   2.218   2.176   2.203  2.146  2.282
2.297
090323  2.090  2.166  2.403   2.315   2.081   2.038   2.060  2.036  2.150
2.129
090316  2.017  2.093  2.403   2.254   1.995   1.965   1.973  1.988  2.091
2.049
090309  2.045  2.122  2.434   2.287   2.022   1.988   2.006  2.017  2.120
2.075
090302  2.087  2.153  2.472   2.314   2.055   2.030   2.043  2.091  2.185
2.144
090223  2.130  2.199  2.514   2.368   2.098   2.071   2.074  2.158  2.238
2.219
090216  2.186  2.250  2.559   2.420   2.148   2.137   2.133  2.183  2.284
2.262
090209  2.219  2.296  2.576   2.450   2.205   2.173   2.156  2.211  2.292
2.269
090202  2.246  2.325  2.583   2.484   2.233   2.201   2.189  2.229  2.303
2.288
090126  2.268  2.344  2.595   2.490   2.258   2.232   2.202  2.243  2.319
2.296
090119  2.296  2.377  2.613   2.514   2.297   2.264   2.227  2.249  2.338
2.319
090112  2.314  2.395  2.621   2.516   2.322   2.289   2.244  2.235  2.353
2.334
090105  2.291  2.380  2.596   2.496   2.310   2.272   2.228  2.215  2.275
2.239
081229  2.327  2.423  2.638   2.536   2.355   2.314   2.264  2.250  2.273
2.241
081222  2.366  2.469  2.689   2.566   2.406   2.359   2.306  2.272  2.274
2.251
081215  2.422  2.534  2.740   2.642   2.469   2.406   2.378  2.350  2.303
2.292
081208  2.515  2.632  2.849   2.742   2.564   2.491   2.465  2.447  2.421
2.402
081201  2.615  2.735  2.954   2.875   2.655   2.578   2.556  2.577  2.553
2.538
081124  2.664  2.788  2.997   2.925   2.710   2.624   2.598  2.644  2.608
2.605
081117  2.809  2.924  3.148   3.072   2.840   2.764   2.745  2.822  2.768
2.754
081110  2.944  3.060  3.266   3.203   2.980   2.888   2.895  2.964  2.910
2.913
081103  3.088  3.219  3.420   3.369   3.137   3.018   3.033  3.157  3.052
3.057
081027  3.288  3.397  3.573   3.509   3.333   3.244   3.219  3.375  3.233
3.286
081020  3.482  3.553  3.729   3.633   3.503   3.447   3.453  3.555  3.433
3.460
081013  3.659  3.709  3.892   3.794   3.655   3.641   3.631  3.697  3.622
3.656
081006  3.875  3.928  4.036   3.978   3.896   3.858   3.843  3.886  3.847
3.869
080929  3.959  4.020  4.077   4.073   3.992   3.936   3.929  3.944  3.941
3.963
080922  3.958  4.021  4.110   4.081   3.987   3.931   3.924  3.964  3.943
3.951
080915  4.023  4.082  4.246   4.166   4.031   3.973   4.011  4.041  4.056
4.053
080908  4.059  4.100  4.312   4.246   4.018   4.015   4.015  4.105  4.156
4.185
080901  4.121  4.169  4.359   4.307   4.093   4.066   4.068  4.184  4.248
4.282
080825  4.145  4.199  4.382   4.360   4.113   4.073   4.098  4.227  4.286
4.359
080818  4.207  4.263  4.422   4.414   4.184   4.130   4.156  4.319  4.356
4.422
080811  4.353  4.420  4.584   4.563   4.344   4.267   4.299  4.473  4.511
4.607
080804  4.502  4.563  4.735   4.672   4.501   4.419   4.450  4.605  4.664
4.781
080728  4.603  4.664  4.806   4.772   4.604   4.518   4.570  4.657  4.766
4.869
080721  4.718  4.773  4.869   4.869   4.723   4.649   4.701  4.714  4.845
4.964
080714  4.764  4.822  4.889   4.912   4.777   4.698   4.737  4.718  4.909
5.026
080707  4.727  4.

Re: [MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks

[Peter Frederick]

Leave the radiator cap loose so it won't pressurize and watch the  
temp gauge CONSTANTLY-- shut it down at the first sign of temps over  
120C.


Bars may or may not do anything for you -- it won't hurt, but is also  
unlikely to seal the rotten core to the tank.


Peter
On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Tyler wrote:

My radiator (1987 190D Turbo) started dripping overnight, and it  
looks like the it's coming from the seal between the radiator core  
and the plastic end tank. I'm on a road trip 1,000 miles from home,  
and Mercedes says a new radiator will take 1 week and cost $673.40.  
Rusty is cheaper, but I still don't have time to wait- I need to  
drive home tomorrow morning, anything I can do? Would a tablet of  
BARS stop leak possibly work, or just clog stuff up?


My car was overheating 4mo ago, so I did a citric acid flush, and  
now have Zerex G-05 50/50 with distilled water for coolant. It's  
been working well, and running uphill very cool until now.


Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals

[Peter Frederick]

Sluggish performance, fuel bubbling out around the injectors.  Could  
burn the pre-chambers if they leak really badly, but otherwise no  
real issuse, I don't think.  If it starts and runs, they are sealed  
pretty well.


May toast the injector nozzles though.

Peter

On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

I've had several diesels that were missing the seals, more  
correctly called
heat shields. I saw no damage to the engine and as soon as I  
realized they

were missing, I installed them.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924

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boun...@okiebenz.com]

On Behalf Of Steve MacSween
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Driving a turbodiesel missing 3 injector seals

Anyone want to tell me what the immediate (performance) and LONG-TERM
effects of this might be on an OM617.952 (say driving 2 years that  
way)?


Thanks

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks

[Jim Cathey]

Would a tablet of BARS stop leak possibly work, or just clog stuff up?


Does bad things to your heating system's monovalve.  If you've
ever had one apart, you'll see why!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Up the down rear window - 1985 300CD

[Jim Cathey]

Thanks.  My problem will likely be in figuring out how all the pieces 
fit

back together again...  My spacial visualization skills are at best
nonexistent.


The two rocking metal contact bits sit one on each side
in the bottom of the switch body.  One spring in each hole
of the plastic rocker, one BB glued to each spring with grease.
Snap rocker down into the body.  Test, and done.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Up the down rear window - 1985 300CD

[andrew strasfogel]

Thanks.  My problem will likely be in figuring out how all the pieces fit
back together again...  My spacial visualization skills are at best
nonexistent.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Do all that in a big plastic bag, so when everything goes flying it is
> contained.
>
> --R
>
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>> Your problem could be either switch, or even both of them.
>> Just open and clean them.  It's easy, and well worth the
>> trouble.  The sides of the body pry open, releasing the
>> rocker.  Then the parts come out.  There are two springs,
>> two BB's, and two moving contacts inside.  Contact (or brake)
>> cleaner and a small wire brush or penknife will do the
>> job.  A dab of grease to hold the BB's to the springs
>> and you put the rocker back in.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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[MBZ] OT: Has anybody else seen?

[Curt Raymond]

http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/CycleKart.html

I think I'm going to have to push to get my hovercraft done so I can start on 
my next project...

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Re: [MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks

[Curt Raymond]

My 240D had some cooling system issue, I forget what exactly, waterpump? After 
I'd picked it up from my Indy I was driving home and realized the radiator was 
leaking. I turned around and as I arrived in his yard the temp started to rise. 
The upper tank had come loose (240D has a upper lower tank type) from the core 
and spewed everywhere...

Bars leaks WILL cause your car to overheat when the thermostat siezes closed, 
BTDT, twice...

I'd get some of this 
http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/specialized_maintenance_repair/radiator_fuel_tank_repair/Permatex_Gas_Tank_Radiator_Repair.htm
 

and effect a booger repair as best as possible until a proper replacement can 
be completed. Drive easy and carry water with you. Good luck!

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:00:26 -0700
From: Tyler 
Subject: [MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

My radiator (1987 190D Turbo) started dripping overnight, and it looks  
like the it's coming from the seal between the radiator core and the  
plastic end tank. I'm on a road trip 1,000 miles from home, and  
Mercedes says a new radiator will take 1 week and cost $673.40. Rusty  
is cheaper, but I still don't have time to wait- I need to drive home  
tomorrow morning, anything I can do? Would a tablet of BARS stop leak  
possibly work, or just clog stuff up?

My car was overheating 4mo ago, so I did a citric acid flush, and now  
have Zerex G-05 50/50 with distilled water for coolant. It's been  
working well, and running uphill very cool until now.

Tyler


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[WILTON]

It is soothing; your patients can probably use some of that, too.  ;<))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Wonko the Sane" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer



That is the only thing that keeps me quasi-sane during my workday.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:22 AM, WILTON  wrote:


BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
 'Sure is nice!

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] radio online

[RELNGSON]

> BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new 
> computer.  'Sure is nice!..
> 
If you have downloaded ITunes, you have access to a long list of radio 
stations online but you do need a high speed connection. I listen mostly to 
Classical UK and WHRO.

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Re: [MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks

[Tyler]

Nevermind, MACS radiator was able to get me a factory BEHR in only 1  
hour!


Sincerely,
Tyler

On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Tyler wrote:

My radiator (1987 190D Turbo) started dripping overnight, and it  
looks like the it's coming from the seal between the radiator core  
and the plastic end tank. I'm on a road trip 1,000 miles from home,  
and Mercedes says a new radiator will take 1 week and cost $673.40.  
Rusty is cheaper, but I still don't have time to wait- I need to  
drive home tomorrow morning, anything I can do? Would a tablet of  
BARS stop leak possibly work, or just clog stuff up?


My car was overheating 4mo ago, so I did a citric acid flush, and  
now have Zerex G-05 50/50 with distilled water for coolant. It's  
been working well, and running uphill very cool until now.


Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[Wonko the Sane]

That is the only thing that keeps me quasi-sane during my workday.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:22 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
>  'Sure is nice!
>
> Wilton
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[WILTON]

BTW, Ed, if you can change the oil or a light bulb, etc., on a Mercedes, you 
can move that old Win 98 HD to the new computer like I did.  I don't know 
'bout the Mac stuff, though.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer


Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though, I 
removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure 
(ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new 
machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done 
that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff very 
easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min. order 
charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely 
easy to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in 
the two cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable 
into new computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the 
enclosure's power switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as 
one of the new machine as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's 
other drives.  After I get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, 
and use it for backup or whatever.


Wilton

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From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer



Wilton,

I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older 
machines,

both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using 
one

in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto your
Vista machine?

Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but 
right

now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had much
luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs 
over

from other machines.

Thanks Wilton.

Regards,

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 


BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
 'Sure is nice!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[WILTON]

Haven't loaded a Zip drive onto the new machine.  'Few days ago, though, I 
removed the HD from my old machine and inserted it into an HD enclosure 
(ordered from cablestogo.com) which I plugged into USB port on the new 
machine, making it, temporarily, a part of the new one.  'Wish I had done 
that immediately when I got the new computer; makes transfer of stuff very 
easy.  Total cost of the "enclosure," etc., including shipping, min. order 
charge, etc., was $35; saw a like unit at Staples for $41.  'Extremely easy 
to set it up - remove HD from old computer, open enclosure, plug in the two 
cables inside the unit, close it up, plug the unit's USB cable into new 
computer, plug in the enclosure's power cord, turn on the enclosure's power 
switch, and it comes up on the new computer screen as one of the new machine 
as one of it's drives; use it just like any of it's other drives.  After I 
get what I want off it, I'll format the old drive, and use it for backup or 
whatever.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer



Wilton,

I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older 
machines,

both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using 
one

in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto your
Vista machine?

Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but 
right

now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had much
luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs 
over

from other machines.

Thanks Wilton.

Regards,

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 


BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
 'Sure is nice!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

[E M]

Wilton,

I'm in a similar situation as you, trying to pull stuff old older machines,
both a win98 and several old macs, and switching it over to a Vista
machine.  I borrowed a friends older Zip machine, as you mentioned using one
in the past.  Did you have any problems loading the old drivers onto your
Vista machine?

Once I get everything moved over, I'll back up on an external HD, but right
now, the trick is getting everything one one machine.  I haven't had much
luck using a memory stick, as one of the old usb ports is 1.0, and to be
honest, I'm not smart enough with computers to mess about switching HDs over
from other machines.

Thanks Wilton.

Regards,

Ed
300E

2009/4/20 WILTON 

> BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.
>  'Sure is nice!
>
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[MBZ] Leaking Plastic Radiator End Tanks

[Tyler]

My radiator (1987 190D Turbo) started dripping overnight, and it looks  
like the it's coming from the seal between the radiator core and the  
plastic end tank. I'm on a road trip 1,000 miles from home, and  
Mercedes says a new radiator will take 1 week and cost $673.40. Rusty  
is cheaper, but I still don't have time to wait- I need to drive home  
tomorrow morning, anything I can do? Would a tablet of BARS stop leak  
possibly work, or just clog stuff up?


My car was overheating 4mo ago, so I did a citric acid flush, and now  
have Zerex G-05 50/50 with distilled water for coolant. It's been  
working well, and running uphill very cool until now.


Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] Up the down rear window - 1985 300CD

[Rich Thomas]

Do all that in a big plastic bag, so when everything goes flying it is 
contained.


--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

Your problem could be either switch, or even both of them.
Just open and clean them.  It's easy, and well worth the
trouble.  The sides of the body pry open, releasing the
rocker.  Then the parts come out.  There are two springs,
two BB's, and two moving contacts inside.  Contact (or brake)
cleaner and a small wire brush or penknife will do the
job.  A dab of grease to hold the BB's to the springs
and you put the rocker back in.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D - $600 - Indiana

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:


i got 300te.  i haven't paid for it yet.  i plan to sell a 2 ratty cars and
an omega watch to pay for it.  


Who was looking for an Omega last weekend?

I thought long and hard about that last Seiko you dumped, but decided it was too 
good for me. What I need is another $9.99 big brass Timex Triathlon. I bought 
two of them on sale 8 years ago, but let a friend have the spare, and now the 
one I've been wearing for eight years is a corroded piece of crap and I've got 
the clasp on the band taped shut.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] cartop carriers, gutter mount

[Mitch Haley]

Here ya go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120408924694
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190301854481

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Re: [MBZ] cartop carriers, gutter mount

[Mitch Haley]

Loren Faeth wrote:
Anybody know where I could get one, or a set of gutter mount rooftop 
racks? 


I got a set of Thule from a local classified ad in 1990 for like $50, with four 
bars, four gutter feet, and four locks. I don't think I've ever needed the long 
bars, the PO used to carry multiple sailboards.


Most of the gutter stuff has probably been thrown in the trash by now, but you 
might check Craigslist or fleaBay for "thule gutter" or "yakima gutter".
Yakima bars are round IIRC, you can probably do just fine with a length of pipe 
or conduit and a couple of yakima feet.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Up the down rear window - 1985 300CD

[Jim Cathey]

Your problem could be either switch, or even both of them.
Just open and clean them.  It's easy, and well worth the
trouble.  The sides of the body pry open, releasing the
rocker.  Then the parts come out.  There are two springs,
two BB's, and two moving contacts inside.  Contact (or brake)
cleaner and a small wire brush or penknife will do the
job.  A dab of grease to hold the BB's to the springs
and you put the rocker back in.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wanting 'next to free' car

[Allan Streib]

Tom,

What year is your SDL again?  Is it listed for sale anywhere with more details?

Allan


On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:23 -0500, "Tom Hargrave"  wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> I have a 300SDL with a decent body, interior, etc, etc and engine trouble
> that I'll be happy to sell you.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
> 256-656-1924
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Brian Smyla
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:22 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Wanting 'next to free' car
> 
> But that's not the 300SDL with decent body, interior and suspension and a
> bad or missing engine that I'm looking for!  Oh, and it should be
> somewhere
> in the southeast :)
> 
> -brian
> 
> 
> Kaleb wrote:
> 
> It is pretty funny.  I have people whining about wanting a such and such
> car for next to free.  I eventually come up with said car, then nobody
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Re: [MBZ] Up the down rear window - 1985 300CD

[andrew strasfogel]

We made it home with a taped up rear window - thanks for all the help.

I swapped out the master driver's side PW switch and the LR window closed!
But when I lowered it for a second test, I got another non-response and it
refused to rise!  I was finally able to get the switch to work but this has
me worried.  It appears the bad connection is in the plug, not necessarily
the switch itself (or maybe both?).  So how eactly do I improve the
connection?  I am assuming the problem is in the console wiring but is there
any chance the switch on the LR panel in the back seating  area is the
culprit?  We rarely drive this car with rear seat passengers, so that switch
has scarcely been used for 10 years.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>  It's the switch!  But the opposite side switch doesn't work on the master
>> switch side - no lockdown connection.  I am not in a posiiton to clean it,
>> either.
>>
>
> You can fiddle the wiring to get it all plugged in anyway, if
> you've removed the shifter surround.  The wires will reach.
> (In other words, leave the lockout switch plugged in, and
> only swap the plugs for the rear windows.
>
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wanting 'next to free' car

[Tom Hargrave]

Brian,

I have a 300SDL with a decent body, interior, etc, etc and engine trouble
that I'll be happy to sell you.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Brian Smyla
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:22 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Wanting 'next to free' car

But that's not the 300SDL with decent body, interior and suspension and a
bad or missing engine that I'm looking for!  Oh, and it should be somewhere
in the southeast :)

-brian


Kaleb wrote:

It is pretty funny.  I have people whining about wanting a such and such
car for next to free.  I eventually come up with said car, then nobody
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[MBZ] OT - New computer

[WILTON]

BTW, Wonko, I can get WCPE (theclassicalstation.org) on my new computer.  'Sure 
is nice!

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2's in PNP

[Curt Raymond]

4spd really? Might that be a rare variety of 2.2l? All the ones I've ever seen 
(including one that was old enough not to have a serpentine belt) with mannys 
were 5spds. IIRC Marshalls 2.0L grey market was also a 5spd.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [MBZ] 190D 2.2's in PNP
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There
are two 190D 2.2s in the Kansas City PNP. There was one last month too,
but it's gone now. Neither are picked over very much. One is a 4 speed
and the other is an automatic.

FYI

Chris



  
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D - $600 - Indiana

[Allan Streib]

I'd say it's just that this is really a pretty small group.  What are
there, maybe 20 or 30 who post on any regular basis?  You easily get
100x that exposure on a local CraigsList ad.

The timing of you selling vs. someone else needing is pretty hard to hit
with a group that small.

Allan


On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:27 -0400, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i leave that to your judgment.
>
> all i know is that it is silly to try to sell any of you anything as
> no matter what a giveway it is, i'll still have to hear the likes of
> snook, kleb and wonko insane beat me down.  if i offered those guys
> 100 bucks to take it, they would tell me they required 300 plus
> expenses.
>
> i got 300te.  i haven't paid for it yet.  i plan to sell a 2 ratty
> cars and an omega watch to pay for it.  when i've tried to give stuff
> away to you guys in the past, it just dragged on for weeks of
> nonsense.  i'd rather deal with someone who understands a bargain and
> can act on it than someone who thinks it's just a matter of beating me
> out of even more money.  I sold a 190e 2.3 that for 500 bucks that the
> buyer has driven for 2 years without putting a penny into, yet that
> wasn't a good enough deal for you guys.  i tried to sell you a 240D
> with a new engine for 600 bucks, but, again, that didn't really work
> for you guys.  so what the hell is the point of even trying to give
> you guys something?
>
> my former daily driver for years, the old 280CE can also be had for
> 500. it's just a beater that i've driven everywhere for years.  it
> won't satisfy this crowd.
>

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[MBZ] Wanting 'next to free' car

[Brian Smyla]

But that's not the 300SDL with decent body, interior and suspension and a
bad or missing engine that I'm looking for!  Oh, and it should be somewhere
in the southeast :)

-brian


Kaleb wrote:

It is pretty funny.  I have people whining about wanting a such and such
car for next to free.  I eventually come up with said car, then nobody
wants to buy it.
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