I hope she finds a good home. Things would be different if I had the
finances, the parking spot, a place to store the spares, and a 240D engine
to throw in. None of the drivers around me like to row manny trannies
either.
Good luck!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Indeed. You've put a lot into that car, it's a pity
that the camel's back has had it.
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$600 about three years ago. They did the DV seals at the same time
clay
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-
ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Clay,
Sounds like you found the right shop - how much did they charge?
-Max
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Anybody interested in a 1972 w115? Dark green, lots of spare parts.
Enough to load her insides and trunk and room left over for a trailer.
The smoke out the back seems to be an oil ring issue. Not that great
a problem, but going to have to remove the head, and may as well do
all the oth
Well, all three of the ones I'm familiar with had much more turbo
noise, more injector noise, and a horrible clatter from the vacuum
pump push rod.
Best driving car I've every had (probably true of all the 740's) --
very comfortable and just flies down the highway effortlessly. Got
31 mp
> Jim Cathey wrote:
> > The safe way to repair a fuel tank is with soft solder and
> > an old-fashioned soldering copper.
>
> My understanding is that diesel fuel (but not gasoline)
> attacks copper. Or is this something that's now different
> in the USLD era?
I think "soldering copper" is anot
Jim Cathey wrote:
The safe way to repair a fuel tank is with soft solder and an
old-fashioned soldering copper.
My understanding is that diesel fuel (but not gasoline)
attacks copper. Or is this something that's now different
in the USLD era?
I think he was talking about those big electric s
The safe way to repair a fuel tank is with soft solder and an
old-fashioned soldering copper.
My understanding is that diesel fuel (but not gasoline)
attacks copper. Or is this something that's now different
in the USLD era?
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They all crack between the valves- and it never causes any problems.
The crack is superficial and doesn't ever extend far into the head.
Some people weld them up, but there's no benefit to it. I've owned
several- and none were any noiser than an OM60x engine. If the turbo
is noisy, it was p
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YA!
(I am thankful I have at least 80% hearing because I have tried to be
careful around noise) I can hear everything except SWMBO and dog
whistles.
I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK --
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
PLEASE wear hearing protection when
I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK --
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> PLEASE wear hearing protection when you are doing anything that is noisy
> (mowing the lawn, target practice, operating a chainsaw, ect.) I have
> PERMANENT hearing loss and tinnitus in both my hears from such stup
> From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
> Its also MUCH quieter, my ears don't ring at all after riding it, quieter
> than your average lawnmower I'd think. Thats important,
PLEASE wear hearing protection when you are doing anything that is noisy
(mowing the lawn, target practice, operating a chainsaw,
How much?
Dan
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Donald Snook wrote:
> From: Donald Snook
> Subject: [MBZ] Somebody looking for a S500 with traction control
> To: "'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'"
> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:55 PM
> I think I remember someone looking
> for a S500 with traction control. I
Curt Raymond wrote:
Not the same engine though, the '87 has a 6cyl. I understand they're a bit more
powerful and relatively desirable because of it.
'87 had the 147hp OM603
'90-93 had the OM602, with I believe a couple of hp less than the 190Dt.
'94-95 had the OM606 NA engine with 24v and vari
115 kmi (82 k when I got it) on my mighty fine (nearly showroom) 87 300D
now; no head prob that I know about yet; 'did evapectomy on it in Jun 08.
Wilton
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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:27 P
Had a cardiac CT this morning, felt slow until around 3, so I finally got out
and finished the muffler on the Wankle sled.
Turned out real nice, I got a piece of exhaust coupler that fit the pipe from
the engine tight and did some of my best welding work yet on it. Spent a bunch
of time making
Not the same engine though, the '87 has a 6cyl. I understand they're a bit more
powerful and relatively desirable because of it.
'86 must have been an interesting year at MB...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:15:41 -0500
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"
To: "Merc
Rodbender has been repainted either front or rear. Look at the
different shades on the paint. It does look nice though.
There was a guy in my Houston neighborhood who had a hot-rodded 560SEC,
nice sound on the mufflers, dropped a bit, fat tires.
--R
Donald Snook wrote:
VERY nice 47K mile
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for anecdotal evidence, you are right, and your experience is as
> meaningless (Or meaningful) as mine.
Exactly...
Alex
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Donald Snook wrote:
> John F. wrote: "So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87
> possible
> cracked head..which is more costly?"
>
> Both are bad. That's why the best MB diesel to buy is the 90-93 300D 2.5.
> Its an awesome car.
>
EGR
The iron heads crack between the valves and from each valve to the
prechamber hole. A crack under 10mm in length is permissible. I
have seen iron heads with as many as 15 cracks. Even though no crack
was beyond 10mm, several were near 10 mm, so I chose to replace the
head anyway.
As for an
Sorry, my mistake. I meant the 14 head. As near as I can tell none
that i had ever had the head off.
#14 was the original bad head. #17 and up was improved, so you have
lucked out with someone handling the repair before you bought it.
John
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126di
I think I remember someone looking for a S500 with traction control. I found
one. It is a 95 Coupe. It only has 96,000 miles. It been serviced only at my
Indy since it had 30,000 miles. It is white and is super clean. Someone
should buy it, so that I am not tempted. I have to drive past t
VERY nice 47K mile 126
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-420-SEL-Immaculate-One-Owner-LOW-Miles_W0QQitemZ170435252697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27aebb91d9
VERY VERY nice Rodbender
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Beautiful-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ260540231440QQcmdZ
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:53:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Robert Bigham
wrote:
> Stay away from fuel tank welding; it's too dangerous.
See "Repair Mistakes & Blunders" on
http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/index.html
Craig
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John F. wrote: "So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87
possible
cracked head..which is more costly?"
Both are bad. That's why the best MB diesel to buy is the 90-93 300D 2.5. Its
an awesome car.
Donald H. Snook
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> (not quite sure the actual mileage since it was paid for by the P.O.,
> and the work was done at the dealer so pres
Presumably correct, that sentence should end. (Hit "send" by accident.)
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Iron heads crack too, especially when abused. I have replaced far more iron
> heads (3 or 4 on Mercedes Diesels) than I have aluminum heads
That just goes to show that anecdotal evidence is meaningless. I've
NEVER heard
#14 was the original bad head. #17 and up was improved, so you have
lucked out with someone handling the repair before you bought it.
John
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s. The lowest mileage when I bought it was
> 175k
Last year I looked at one with about the same mileage. It had one small rust
spot by the rear license plate and a strange noise in the engine that the folks
on here was either a bad injector or the IP about to die. The guy was asking
$5000, I got him down to $3000, probably could have gotten him
My 87 300D has the 17 head, with 190,000 on the motor and 390,000 on the
chassis. Runs great, average around 25 mpg driving fast, but I have seen 30
mpg driving it at the speed limit. Paid $1050.00 for it 3 years ago but had
to repair where it was rear ended prior to my owning it. I had offered $10
On 1/22/2010 1:27 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
"terrible" 17 head.
The #14 is the bad one #17 is good.
John
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As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s. The lowest mileage when I bought
it was 175k. NONE have had cracked head problems. ALL have had the
"terrible" 17 head.
As long as the suspect 300D has not been recently overheated, there
is a very slim chance something is wrong with the head. In later
y
So 87 124 diesels have cracked head issues?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:16 PM, John Freer wrote:
So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible
cracked head..which is more costly?
John
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis
wrote:
I'd rat
Tell me more about the cracked head issue.
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:16 -0800, "John Freer" wrote:
> So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible
> cracked head..which is more costly?
>
> John
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So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible
cracked head..which is more costly?
John
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis
wrote:
> I'd rather pay more for an 87 124 than a 95 which has potential wiring
> harness issues.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On
Especially with the turboed (intercooled) OM606's...
I think it's 175hp and 243ft-lbs. 0-100kph in about 8s... I don't know
how fast it can go.
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On Jan 22, 2010, at 13:05, Fmiser wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
I t
I had a 75 Pontiac that got a pinhole in the bottom of the gas tank. I
kept it sealed up for quite some time by occasionally rubbing a bar of
soap on it (and old trick apparently, shared with me by an old guy).
Finally took it to a shop and they did the solder thing on it, after
removing/drai
I'd rather pay more for an 87 124 than a 95 which has potential wiring harness
issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"
wrote:
$5k seems pretty high to me; here in Charleston I wouldn't expect to pay
much more than $2k for an
No problem. The annular space between the plug body and the head packs
with carbon all the way up to the threads.
Any irregularities in the gap, be it because the plug and bore are not
perfectly concentric or because of "texture" on either surface will
cause binding of the carbon "sleeve".
Greetings Benz-o-Philes,
Per Donald Snook's observation that his mother has turned into his
grandmother
My 80+ yr old mom decided that the family should drive to Tucson for
Christmas week. She then decided that her 2005 ML350 was too used (63K
Mi) to make the trip. She bought a fire e
$5k seems pretty high to me; here in Charleston I wouldn't expect to pay
much more than $2k for an '87 when a nice '95 124 can be had for $3k.
The true price is only found one way - make an offer!
-Max
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Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124
sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I had some time this
morning so I stopped to look at it. It's an '87 300D with (if the odo is
correct) about 173K miles.
Nobody was around so I noted the phone n
> Curt Raymond wrote:
> I think Marshall said heat and time and that heat was a
> function of RPM and load.
> IIRC Marshall suggested getting some big friends to ride in
> the backseat while you drove up big hills...
Hmm. That requires big hills. And friends
-- Philip
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My father used to do this sort of thing as well. Not commercially, but I do
recall him soldering tanks that leaked.
I think the primary concern is getting the area clean enough for the solder to
stick properly. My guess is that
what you want is the flux - essentially acid - that was used when so
Hello All
The safe way to repair a fuel tank is with soft solder and an old-fashioned
soldering copper.
In this process, there need not be fire anywhere near the tank, there is no
spark ever, and the temperature of the tank can be moderated with partial water
fillingor sponging with water simi
You know we love photos. I'd like to see them too.
Randy
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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Cr
John,
That picture and your explanations help me understand a great deal more
than what I new before - thanks!
Which penetrating oil did you use?
-Max
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Sent: Friday, Ja
I think Marshall said heat and time and that heat was a function of RPM and
load.
A couple years ago we took my 190D to western MA to a show (Prairie Home
Companion) and on some of the big hills I noticed the temp gauge starting to
climb which it never did around here. Seemed like the car drove
Curt wrote: "She doesn't want a minivan? I've ridden in a Pilot, they seem like
the ultimate yuppie Home Depot vehicle. As an offroader I suspect they suck,
theres all sorts of low hanging bits underneath."
She had a minivan before. It was actually a great vehicle for them. But, for
some reas
Ed wrote: "Looks great and timeless. A lot of car for $4700 if it's as good as
described."
Yea, it looks very nice. I really liked my 300SEL. At least until the head
gasket blew up. According to the seller, the head gasket has been done on this
car. I wish I had an extra $4000 for a third c
Rich wrote: "what's with parking it out in a wheat field? (Waiting for the cat
to set it on fire)"
Well, its Kansas. There are wheat fields everywhere. That's a good point
about the wheat field. The Cat would be VERY hot.
Donald H. Snook
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archer wrote:
Graphite on the threads solved the problem of VW Beetle spark plugs
seizing. I wonder if it would work on glow plugs?
I always use nevr-seize on spark plug and glow plug threads.
The 24v glow plug problem seems to be elsewhere though.
Mitch.
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I'd try a copper or nickel based antisieze along the two to three
inches of unthreaded body between the seat and the tapered tip...
Maybe a picture will help: http://images.esellerpro.com/106/I/187/740/sx29.jpg
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The two valve per cylinder engines are in no way comparable to the
fours for gp purposes. The fours have two to three inches of length
between the end of the threads and the tapered seat. A slight leak in
the seat can allow minute amounts of soot to enter the space, which
will not ever get
ABSOLUTELY!!!
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On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:19, "LarryT" wrote:
With the remains out, does it appear to be a carbon build-up problem
that caused it to be so hard to remove?
Altho it sounds like your driving style should
The puller is part of a special (expensive) Mercedes tool set (my
local dealers won't use it; they pull the head and send it out to a
machine shop). I'll try to take some pics of it and put them up
somewhere...
Given that the plugs were all tight, I was worried that several would
break of
Graphite on the threads solved the problem of VW Beetle spark plugs seizing.
I wonder if it would work on glow plugs?
Gerry Archer
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I am not convinced that proper driving habits have much effect, nor am I
convinced tha
Great input Larry. Why did you use Ferox vice Lubro Moly Diesel Purge?
-Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT '95 E300
With the remains out, does it appear to be a carbon build-up problem that
caused it to be so hard to remove?
Altho it sounds like your driving style should work to keep carbon from
forming - assuming you're driving far and fast enough to blow any carbon
out.
I mentioned it before - and I'm s
I don't know that heat would help, but your question leads to another
question - are operating glow plugs easier/less likely to break than
dead ones?
I'm also wondering if removing the injector and applying penetrating oil
from the inside would be wise/feasible? I guess I just dread the idea
of a
Clay,
Sounds like you found the right shop - how much did they charge?
-Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT '95
John,
Thanks for that data. Tell me more about this puller - if the day ever
comes I'd like to know all my options.
Was there any warning before it snapped? When the other five came out,
did you think there was risk of those breaking as well? In other words,
will I be able to know when I have
Thanks Rusty!
Now I just need to find the $ and the time...
-Max
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