Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Yes and the 123 240D's as well-at least the early ones. . Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
A traumatic amputation of a limb is not as lethal as a clean cut off. So I was told during EMT training about 30 years ago. The blood vessels go into spasm and tend to close off. That being said, I would assume any amputation of the upper leg to me 10% fatal unless you were immediately attended to by someone who knew how to control bleeding, that would not be me ;-) -- Pete Arnold 32° There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway On 2/12/2010 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Wow, I bet that hurt, but less than being dead maybe. If cutting your femoral artery can result in death in a few minutes, what does ripping your leg off do? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Sorry, meant 100% fatal Pete W/fat thumbs On 2/13/2010 8:20 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: A traumatic amputation of a limb is not as lethal as a clean cut off. So I was told during EMT training about 30 years ago. The blood vessels go into spasm and tend to close off. That being said, I would assume any amputation of the upper leg to me 10% fatal unless you were immediately attended to by someone who knew how to control bleeding, that would not be me ;-) -- Pete Arnold 32° There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway On 2/12/2010 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Wow, I bet that hurt, but less than being dead maybe. If cutting your femoral artery can result in death in a few minutes, what does ripping your leg off do? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
I have no idea. The generators at this site are fairly large (300kW) and will most likely remain in place in the buildings they occupy. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:25 PM Hmmm - will they be surplusing some nice generators??? On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Who was the Coastie that was bemoaning the decommissioning of the LORAN system? I ask because I just talked to the guys at the LORAN site in Dana, Indiana. We service the generators that back up the site. They turn off the transmitter on Monday. The site is being mothballed and turned over to the local government after the USCG gets their toys out of it. Dan -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
LWB250 wrote: I have no idea. The generators at this site are fairly large (300kW) Were they running a 100kw transmitter? The thought boggles the mind. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
I did not see that one, how much was it? Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Harbor Freight's new sale catalog arrived this past week. One of the neat toys is an optical hand-held tachometer. I wonder how useful that would be for measuring / adjusting idle speed? Rich, did you figure out how to measure RPM via the diagnostic socket yet? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment? Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system? The transmission is bad so I haven't had a chance to drive it yet to see if the suspension works right though I know it doesn't leak when standing still with the engine running. I was thinking of using aircraft oil to flush the system and till I see if the accumulators are good or not and then flush it again with the real stuff. Unfortunately around here the aircraft oil cost as much or more then the real MB oil so I guess I might as well use the real oil. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:59:10 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 300TD suspension oil What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD? I've been using the $2/quart Royco 756 aircraft brake oil that I got off Craigslist. Until I can find the leak. Then I've got two bottles of the real deal I got from Rusty to put in. The real stuff's clear, the 756 is red, and is MIL-PRF-5606H rated (same as the real deal). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Haven't done anything on it as I just got it on Wed. All that hose stuff is on the list as well as checking the routing of the vacuum lines and the accelerator linkage. May have a problem there as it doesn't want to idle when cold without peddle pressure. Though I'm thinking that that may be a problem with over adjustment of the rack damper bolt. I'll check that when I do the linkage check. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:29:53 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the right stuff from Rusty! it is much less expensive than buying new tandem pump and new rear struts. He will have it to you in a couple of days. While you are at it, you might want to change the low pressure hose from the tank to the pump, unless you already did it recently. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
Ed asked I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? Yup, 300SE or 300SEL. Awesome cars fer sure - LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I knew a fellow too, who had a 600 for daily transport. A really amazing car. Hmmm, I wonder when the hydraulic fail, if all the windows fall open and the all seats start to slide around on their tracks?? lol. I looked at one for sale in town here years ago. They were asking $39,000. It looked amazing, very well cared for body and interior, but a few things needed a bit of attention. Oh oh, . lol The real party trick when showing it to me, was the self closing truck. And yeah, it closed with real authority, you didn't want to get your hand or arm in that sucker after pushing the close button! lol Funny in ways, you have to take all the engineering efforts made in context. They went to such trouble making the windows operate silently, as well as the seats slide back and forth, but if you were opening a window, I'm not sure you'd hear an electric motor over the enginenot as quiet as you might think. Like you Larry, I'd love a 600, but the cost to run one properly would be scary!! I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? The original Q car. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:17, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: LOL -- there's High Class, Low Class and the dreaded No Class. ;-) I used to get a magazine quarterly from MB - they'd talk about past models and stuff - like The Star but free. Anyway one issue was about the 600s - they are truly awesome cars. They are larger in every dimension - even the hood star is large. The window lifts are *hydraulic* - must be spooky to watch them raise and lower silently. The engine used in the 600 was a fuel injected 6.3 like the one used in the more common 300SE/SEL of the 60s - a outstanding car in it's own right. I heard some salesmen would tape a $100 dollar bill to the dash and challenge the potential buyer to grab it between 0 and 60 mph. I understand the same $100 bill was never reached. I heard similar stories about 427 Cobra's BTW. Anyway - for such a large car the 600 was very fast. One of my former customers drove a 600SWB as his daily driver. He really liked it for tooling around town. Air suspension was a common problem BTW. You might see a 600 (or 300SE/SEL sitting low to the ground looking like some misguided soul wanted to lower it - when the problem was leaking air bags in the suspension that allowed the car to lie down like a tired puppy. Wouldn't mind having a 600/300 but wouldn't want to pay for maintaining one. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
Agreed! I'm also a fan of older cars that have never been restored. As they say, it can be restored over over but it's only original once. Patina is also important LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? You know that old saying Larry, there are now 3 times more Bugatti's out there than ever left the factory. lol. Prices got so crazy, if you had an old chassis, engine, or gearbox, you had the makings of a restored car. lol. Problem was, the cars were broken up over time, everyone with a chassis, engine, or gearbox built a new car around it, and ended up with an original Bug. lol. I'm not sure how much a true lover of old cars could get from something that is 90% less than 10 years old. As a lover of car, and and particularly of older vintage cars, nothing does it for me more than the survivors. Bit of rust or faded paint, nothing like seeing them as they left the factory. Those are the real deal. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 17:44, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I know it can cost 6 figures to restore a neat old car but some of those cars are nothing more than a rusty chassis which is turned into a 100 pt Concours car - excuse me auto-mo-bile. Have to enunciate properly. ;-) Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some people sitting around, walking around, whatever. I attempted to engage some of them in idle conversation about the cars, etc. and no one seemed to be the least bit happy to be there or interested in sharing an interest in nice cars. That really bothered me. I think it was more of a who has a bigger kind of thing rather than enjoying nice cars on a beautiful day. I would wager I am happier driving my 26 and 31yo stinky Benzes and 34yo ratty Cad than any of them are in their $n00,000 spotless cars. I just don't get it, they seem to have very pampered but not very happy lives. --R E M wrote: I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more than happy to show them off to whoever has an interest in them. It's like anything in life, you're going to get a few goofballs in any group of people. Whatever you drive, there will always be people who have something cooler, and more of them, so a bit of modesty never hurts. You know, those old fashioned social graces, that don't always come standard with an old used 600. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 15:00, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives somewhere in northeast PA as I remember. Since my brother and I had visited a few Meadowbrook Concours d'Elegance events, we thought it would be a neat idea to attend one of the M100 meets as pics of a bunch of these vehicles in the same place would be pretty nice. I wrote a note to one of the fellows but got a somewhat snobbish note in return
Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
So, all the Loran stations will be off line? I used to publish a book containing all the lat/long for all buoys/markers along the US coast for boaters using Loran for navigation. Once GPS became affordable it put me out of business as the GPS units typically contain the info I provided. Now, all the Loran units sold are paperweights it seems Shot down by Technology!! ;-) LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:22 PM To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN Who was the Coastie that was bemoaning the decommissioning of the LORAN system? I ask because I just talked to the guys at the LORAN site in Dana, Indiana. We service the generators that back up the site. They turn off the transmitter on Monday. The site is being mothballed and turned over to the local government after the USCG gets their toys out of it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender??
Thx Gang -- at the asking price I'll have to pass - especially since it would still be a crapshoot. LarryT (who shouldn't be looking at cars for sale anyway) OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender?? Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net writes: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:54:56 -0500 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1547545749.html With 228k mi it should either have a new engine or be burning oil by now - right? It ain't necessarily so ... Yeah, IIRC Marshall said that they ALL would eventually fail. Some sooner, some later. Here recently there's been the theory that the real cause of the bent rods is hydrolocking caused by a leaking head gasket. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 sunroof manual retraction
The owners manual gives a good description of how it operates. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] W124 sunroof manual retraction W124 folk, The pop-up/slide sunroof on my '86 300E only pops up, doesn't slide. I have no illusions that I can fix it, but I'd like to slide it back just once to clean out the drains (left rear footwell is getting wet every time it rains), with some confidence that I will be able to close it again. What's the best way? Emergency crank in the trunk, or does that only work to move it one way and not the other? How does the crank work anyway (I don't think I have a 124 owner's manual anywhere)? Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc.
Mountain Man said I am still laughing. glad I brightened your day ;-) Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leather, Neatsfeet etc. LarryT wrote: The truly evil are those who collect mothballs. I always wondered how they keep their little legs open. Okay - I am still laughing. I did not read this before - awesome imagery. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E W124
Thx Guys - OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E W124 Hi Larry, My trans has always had a very slow leak, and I didn't feel it worth pulling it all out unless there were other things to do, while in there. Other than that, 350,000+ kms, and it all original. The car has never been abused, by me or the previous owner, but all seems ok so far. No slip or anything. I use synthetic fluid, and it gets about 80% of its current use in the city, so it does run through the gears often, not just left in top as with highway driving. I don't know tons about the cars, other than the questions I've asked here, but if there's anything I have tinkered with on the car, I'm happy to share it with you. Cheap to buy, cheap to run with parts from Rusty, even a lot of the small parts I've purchased from the dealer, and enough room in the engine bay, you can stand in it while working on it. ;-) lol Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:21, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I see a lot of W124 300E's needing transmission work - I *really* like the 300 W124 and nice D's are getting harder harder to find. Is the W124 prone to tranny problems? Is it usually the B2 valve? Any good websites to learn about the W124 300E? Thx LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
MIL-5606 is generally a safe substitute for ZH-M, CHF, and other mineral oils like that. It does tend to have a slightly different viscosity, which could have long term effects. In an emergency, lightweight motor oil is better than running the system dry. Just NEVER use synthetic/vegetable-based fluids (ie brake fluid), as they will totally destroy the seals and hoses. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death
Yabbut in this case, I suspect just as Princess Di bit the big one, so did this guy. Rapid deceleration makes a mess of your internal organs. Dan --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:20 AM A traumatic amputation of a limb is not as lethal as a clean cut off. So I was told during EMT training about 30 years ago. The blood vessels go into spasm and tend to close off. That being said, I would assume any amputation of the upper leg to me 10% fatal unless you were immediately attended to by someone who knew how to control bleeding, that would not be me ;-) -- Pete Arnold 32° There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway On 2/12/2010 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Wow, I bet that hurt, but less than being dead maybe. If cutting your femoral artery can result in death in a few minutes, what does ripping your leg off do? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN
Hard telling. Consider that this site is 1000 miles inland. We didn't have anything to do with the transmitter, obviously. There were (are) two 300kW generators there, and I suspect everything in the place was backed by them, so there would have been plenty of other loads besides the transmitter. There could have been some redundancy, too, but I've never been to the site so I don't know the details. Interestingly, it's right down the road from the Army depot that incinerates nerve gas and other nasty stuff they have been taking out of the arsenal. Dan --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] R.I.P. LORAN To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 AM LWB250 wrote: I have no idea. The generators at this site are fairly large (300kW) Were they running a 100kw transmitter? The thought boggles the mind. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
Yes, but most MB folks would tell you that you have to be an Arab oil sheik or a investment banker to own one due to the cost of upkeep. Try guessing what a water pump costs for one Dan --- On Sat, 2/13/10, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:53 AM Ed asked I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? Yup, 300SE or 300SEL. Awesome cars fer sure - LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I knew a fellow too, who had a 600 for daily transport. A really amazing car. Hmmm, I wonder when the hydraulic fail, if all the windows fall open and the all seats start to slide around on their tracks?? lol. I looked at one for sale in town here years ago. They were asking $39,000. It looked amazing, very well cared for body and interior, but a few things needed a bit of attention. Oh oh, . lol The real party trick when showing it to me, was the self closing truck. And yeah, it closed with real authority, you didn't want to get your hand or arm in that sucker after pushing the close button! lol Funny in ways, you have to take all the engineering efforts made in context. They went to such trouble making the windows operate silently, as well as the seats slide back and forth, but if you were opening a window, I'm not sure you'd hear an electric motor over the enginenot as quiet as you might think. Like you Larry, I'd love a 600, but the cost to run one properly would be scary!! I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? The original Q car. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:17, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: LOL -- there's High Class, Low Class and the dreaded No Class. ;-) I used to get a magazine quarterly from MB - they'd talk about past models and stuff - like The Star but free. Anyway one issue was about the 600s - they are truly awesome cars. They are larger in every dimension - even the hood star is large. The window lifts are *hydraulic* - must be spooky to watch them raise and lower silently. The engine used in the 600 was a fuel injected 6.3 like the one used in the more common 300SE/SEL of the 60s - a outstanding car in it's own right. I heard some salesmen would tape a $100 dollar bill to the dash and challenge the potential buyer to grab it between 0 and 60 mph. I understand the same $100 bill was never reached. I heard similar stories about 427 Cobra's BTW. Anyway - for such a large car the 600 was very fast. One of my former customers drove a 600SWB as his daily driver. He really liked it for tooling around town. Air suspension was a common problem BTW. You might see a 600 (or 300SE/SEL sitting low to the ground looking like some misguided soul wanted to lower it - when the problem was leaking air bags in the suspension that allowed the car to lie down like a tired puppy. Wouldn't mind having a 600/300 but wouldn't want to pay for maintaining one. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners of certain cars, but more with people who have purchased certain cars, but can't really afford to treat them for what they are, cars. From my experience, the people who really love and buy these cars for what they are, are more
[MBZ] 300E? 400E?
We may be in need of another set of wheel around the house if my older son gets off his ass and gets a real job next week, which looks like it's going to happen. I'm thinking a decent 300E would be a good car for him, as he won't be driving long distances and doesn't need to be messing with diesel. If anyone knows of/has one/sees one, let me know off list. I'm not looking for something that's a perfect car, just in good shape mechanically. I can deal with cosmetics. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] 300E? 400E?
W123 veggiemobile: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1591542128.html Dented W126, needs price lowered: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1556407691.html $1700 rocket ship: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/1596657928.html 300TE, 3rd seat, 4matic, needs blower/fuse/porcupine: http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/1589824644.html 1993 300E, needs some cosmetic work: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/1581164107.html 126 diesel $950: http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/1578265061.html $3000 Crown Vic, about 9 miles from me: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1599082422.html $2300 rocket ship. Don't let Snook beat you to it: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1599188966.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E? 400E?
Oops, forgot a couple: $800 Aurora: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1599255510.html $1600 98: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1599278126.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting day as in may you live in....
Had an interesting day today. Took the drivers door latch mechanism (DDLM) out of an 81 300SD. Easy job went real quick. Lots of room. Then I took the broken DDLM out of the 83 300TD. Oh what fun. Had to take the plastic rain cover off the DDLM first, then and only then could I just bearly (no tongue in cheek, would have bitten it off) was I able to squeeze the thing out of there. Left the cover up there and managed to get the one from the SD into place and the cover on and fastened. Lo and behold it works just like new. After that I took the electric window mechanism out. luckily on the same door so I didn't have to take three door panels off. Not too bad. As a matter of fact downright easy after the latch job. Found the two lead rivets that hold the lift arm to the gear were cut. Took the thing and did a quick spot of weld to hold the arm to the gear and put it back in. Job done and window goes up and down just as pretty as you please. Bad part about all of this is I had to do it without the help of any libations to the gods. It was just too cold for that. Probably means the whole thing will mess up somehow in just a while. OH well. I'm having one now so maybe that will help to mitigate the damage. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL photographer of the day
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1598197602.html -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E? 400E?
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I'm not looking for something that's a perfect car, just in good shape mechanically. I can deal with cosmetics. I saw this ad a few days ago... I have not seen the car, but the description sounds honest and BS-free. http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1596653217.html Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Yeah, aircraft hydraulic fluid, MIL-5606, is read to clearly and easily distinguish it from other fluids, engine oil, water, urine, etc. Easier to find and identify leaks, too. If you see a red fluid dripping from an aircraft, you know you have a hydraulic leak, or somebody's been hurt. (But hyd fluid is usually a little thinner and not quite as dark as blood.) ; Wilton - Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system? The transmission is bad so I haven't had a chance to drive it yet to see if the suspension works right though I know it doesn't leak when standing still with the engine running. I was thinking of using aircraft oil to flush the system and till I see if the accumulators are good or not and then flush it again with the real stuff. Unfortunately around here the aircraft oil cost as much or more then the real MB oil so I guess I might as well use the real oil. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:59:10 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 300TD suspension oil What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD? I've been using the $2/quart Royco 756 aircraft brake oil that I got off Craigslist. Until I can find the leak. Then I've got two bottles of the real deal I got from Rusty to put in. The real stuff's clear, the 756 is red, and is MIL-PRF-5606H rated (same as the real deal). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?
$2500, if you provide a core in exchange. Ed 300E On 13 February 2010 13:28, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, but most MB folks would tell you that you have to be an Arab oil sheik or a investment banker to own one due to the cost of upkeep. Try guessing what a water pump costs for one Dan --- On Sat, 2/13/10, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:53 AM Ed asked I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? Yup, 300SE or 300SEL. Awesome cars fer sure - LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I knew a fellow too, who had a 600 for daily transport. A really amazing car. Hmmm, I wonder when the hydraulic fail, if all the windows fall open and the all seats start to slide around on their tracks?? lol. I looked at one for sale in town here years ago. They were asking $39,000. It looked amazing, very well cared for body and interior, but a few things needed a bit of attention. Oh oh, . lol The real party trick when showing it to me, was the self closing truck. And yeah, it closed with real authority, you didn't want to get your hand or arm in that sucker after pushing the close button! lol Funny in ways, you have to take all the engineering efforts made in context. They went to such trouble making the windows operate silently, as well as the seats slide back and forth, but if you were opening a window, I'm not sure you'd hear an electric motor over the enginenot as quiet as you might think. Like you Larry, I'd love a 600, but the cost to run one properly would be scary!! I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? The original Q car. Ed 300E On 12 February 2010 16:17, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: LOL -- there's High Class, Low Class and the dreaded No Class. ;-) I used to get a magazine quarterly from MB - they'd talk about past models and stuff - like The Star but free. Anyway one issue was about the 600s - they are truly awesome cars. They are larger in every dimension - even the hood star is large. The window lifts are *hydraulic* - must be spooky to watch them raise and lower silently. The engine used in the 600 was a fuel injected 6.3 like the one used in the more common 300SE/SEL of the 60s - a outstanding car in it's own right. I heard some salesmen would tape a $100 dollar bill to the dash and challenge the potential buyer to grab it between 0 and 60 mph. I understand the same $100 bill was never reached. I heard similar stories about 427 Cobra's BTW. Anyway - for such a large car the 600 was very fast. One of my former customers drove a 600SWB as his daily driver. He really liked it for tooling around town. Air suspension was a common problem BTW. You might see a 600 (or 300SE/SEL sitting low to the ground looking like some misguided soul wanted to lower it - when the problem was leaking air bags in the suspension that allowed the car to lie down like a tired puppy. Wouldn't mind having a 600/300 but wouldn't want to pay for maintaining one. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about Ferraris with one of the guys. I was told, by someone else, he doesn't like to talk about his other cars. Well, someone might want to tell him, and others, that owning several cars, even nice ones, are probably some of the worst kept secrets within a car club. lol. ( Wonder if he was reluctant to talk about his Mercedes to his Ferrari friends?) lol I find a lot of the attitude is not so much with the owners
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] 300E? 400E?
On 13 February 2010 14:27, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dented W126, needs price lowered: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1556407691.html shopping carts leave dents, other cars and poles do this. lol $1700 rocket ship: 1993 300E, needs some cosmetic work: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/1581164107.html I don't think this will buff out. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] 300E? 400E?
he sure takes good photos E M wrote: On 13 February 2010 14:27, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dented W126, needs price lowered: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1556407691.html shopping carts leave dents, other cars and poles do this. lol $1700 rocket ship: 1993 300E, needs some cosmetic work: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/1581164107.html I don't think this will buff out. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
well all the earlier diesels, 116 had it also, that was the last. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Which US cars besides the 115 and the NA 123 cars had that? I've unplugged the idle control device on my '87 and I'd love to back-fit an idle control knob. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle speed This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
on the side of the IP, loosen locknut, turn the screw. Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:00 -0800, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too low. The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning. With just a slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal. So turn it up a tetch. That's one handy thing of the 115 diesels, etc., that dash-mount idle speed knob. So how do I don that on an OM617, exactly? Where's the idle adjustment? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
nothing electronic with the 617 turbos. Dieselhead wrote: Everything postwar for sure up to 123 OM616 240D and the NA 300D. The 123 turbos and newer have the electronic gizmos. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E? 400E?
There are several 260E/300E in Chicagoland on autotrader.com. Here's an example of a 260: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=271460095 Less money, more miles, W201: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=273113180 There were some on Michigan Craigslist last month, but mostly gone now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] 300E? 400E?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: $1700 rocket ship: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/1596657928.html Different wheels? Sounds like it might be a Wilton special ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil subbing
...I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system?.. Urine can be substituted in a emergency. An aircraft crew carries it with them at all times. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] somebody should buy this`
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/1599572202.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil subbing
And I have seen it leaking out the underside of an aircraft. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil subbing ...I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system?.. Urine can be substituted in a emergency. An aircraft crew carries it with them at all times. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL photographer of the day
Nice. I can tell everything I need to know about that car from that picture. Bob R On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1598197602.html -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL photographer of the day
Me, too. There they go trying to give me vertigo again, too. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL photographer of the day Nice. I can tell everything I need to know about that car from that picture. Bob R On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1598197602.html -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] possibly the all-time ultimate crack-smoker
http://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/1576660737.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] possibly the all-time ultimate crack-smoker
Allan Streib wrote: http://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/1576660737.html But, this is a new car! It only has 190,000 miles on it! It won't be considered a used car until it has 800,000 miles on it! Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] possibly the all-time ultimate crack-smoker
Well Allan. You might be right-I can't recall a contender like this in my 7 years on the list. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:23 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] possibly the all-time ultimate crack-smoker http://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/1576660737.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale
Thomas wrote: 300D. In 2007 the rust just exploded like unchecked bacteria. Isn't that the year you went to china? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] idle speed
Page 9, top right if it's the same catalog I got today. $40. Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I did not see that one, how much was it? Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Harbor Freight's new sale catalog arrived this past week. One of the neat toys is an optical hand-held tachometer. I wonder how useful that would be for measuring / adjusting idle speed? Rich, did you figure out how to measure RPM via the diagnostic socket yet? -Max -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
According to a recently retired (after 38 years) tech at my dealer, the heater panel (a row of buttons) cost is ten grand. He tended for years to a 50K mile black 600 SWB that I would see in the service department from time to time. I had the opportunity to look at the bottom side once when it was in drydock on the lift. Made my Visa card tremble. He also did what had to be done on a few 108 Cabs which also can deplete your holdings. I am puzzled by the resentment and disdain shown here by a few toward cars of this sort. I am glad that those who have the resources to maintain and enjoy them do so because when I see a well kept example of an important MB, it's my pleasure. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
I'm still waiting for the right one of these to drop in my lap. Interested to see what shoe goo and microwave ovens can do for a sadly-neglected Grosser! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
There was a shell advertised in the Star about 15 years ago, for $10,000 if I remember. Maybe a 603 conversion? Hey, even the really high end stuff from Mercedes doesn't always escape the create mechanic or body man. I read once of a SL300 that that seems solid. During restoration, it turned out, the sills were so full or rot, the previous owner filled them with cement!! Probably once of those guys who subscribed to the old 50s slog of, road holding weight in the corners. lol Ed 300E On 13 February 2010 21:49, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm still waiting for the right one of these to drop in my lap. Interested to see what shoe goo and microwave ovens can do for a sadly-neglected Grosser! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
It's always a thrill to see just what a great engineering company can do, when all the accountants go away on holiday for awhile! The 600 was a big step forward from what anyone else was doing at the time. The so called competition at the time came from companies like Rolls, which were no competition at all really. The current Bugatti Vayron is another example. People will say negative things about it, but in my opinion, it's an engineering master piece. People forget for a moment just what it takes to make a car go over 250 mph! A car that can do it, and still idle through rush hour traffic, and surround it's occupants in total comfort and luxury is an amazing feat. I agree, those who are willing and able to buy and look after these special cars at they should be, do every car enthusiast a favour. Guy I knew in the club years ago, sold a mint SL 300, to buy a Gullwing that was pulled out of a lake. Restored the car to new and drove it every chance he got. It was always a treat to see it, and an even bigger treat to see and hear it while in motion. Ed 300E On 13 February 2010 21:42, relng...@aol.com wrote: According to a recently retired (after 38 years) tech at my dealer, the heater panel (a row of buttons) cost is ten grand. He tended for years to a 50K mile black 600 SWB that I would see in the service department from time to time. I had the opportunity to look at the bottom side once when it was in drydock on the lift. Made my Visa card tremble. He also did what had to be done on a few 108 Cabs which also can deplete your holdings. I am puzzled by the resentment and disdain shown here by a few toward cars of this sort. I am glad that those who have the resources to maintain and enjoy them do so because when I see a well kept example of an important MB, it's my pleasure. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
I agree, the 600 is a tour de force of late 50s automotive technology. Many of the features built into the 600 were not seen in domestic cars until 2 to 4 decades later, if ever. They were, and still are a fabulous car. I like to see them maintained and used. last night, I was watching a rerun of Rockford Files, and they had a 600 LWB running around in Lost Angeles. It is a thrill even to see one on TV. It is too bad they don't still make a car of that magnitude and grace. IMHO, the Maybach is just a car for those who want to say they spent more on a car than you did. It does not look like a presidential Limo, like the 600 does. With a 600, you expect to see the Pope, Princess Grace, Heads of State of any European country and the like. I do believe there is a market for a stately car that is hand built by craftsmen. The biggest problem is the enviro-nazis. They wouldn't let you build a limited edition car that was not just a little sheet metal different than a production model. I guess the substitute is the suburban or a hummer. Somehow neither seem as elegant as a 600. According to a recently retired (after 38 years) tech at my dealer, the heater panel (a row of buttons) cost is ten grand. He tended for years to a 50K mile black 600 SWB that I would see in the service department from time to time. I had the opportunity to look at the bottom side once when it was in drydock on the lift. Made my Visa card tremble. He also did what had to be done on a few 108 Cabs which also can deplete your holdings. I am puzzled by the resentment and disdain shown here by a few toward cars of this sort. I am glad that those who have the resources to maintain and enjoy them do so because when I see a well kept example of an important MB, it's my pleasure. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this`
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:29:52 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/1599572202.html somebody should buy this Well, why not you? Oh, wait, maybe you're the one selling it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
Dieselhead wrote: last night, I was watching a rerun of Rockford Files, and they had a 600 LWB running around in Lost Angeles. It is a thrill even to see one on TV. I saw a red Grosser in a Batman movie the other day. Had to be one of the flicks with Robin in it, but I can't remember if it was the Val Kilmer or George Clooney movie. Maybe Poison Ivy had a Grosser in the Clooney movie? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
Mitch Haley wrote: I saw a red Grosser in a Batman movie the other day. I just checked. It was indeed Poison Ivy in the movie Batman Robin. 34 minute into the DVD. Never seen a Grosser that red before. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
It is a thrill even to see one [600] on TV. What they did in Witches of Eastwick made me sick. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
