Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
We have a SR-71 at our local Air Museum at the Richmond Va airport - it's an awesome aircraft but it looks like it wants to be airborne not sitting on the ground. It looks more like a spaceship than a airplane. Remember the video of the Top Gear guy getting a flight on the Blackbird? Incredible flight - would love to make it myself - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447 Yes the Blackbird leaked like a sieve on the ground -- weeping fuel out of seams -- until it got to speed and expanded and all the seams sealed themselves up. It did grow 6 inches or so in length, very high temps on the skin and airframe. Don't know about the FBW, cables would have lengthened to I would think, or someway designed for the conditions. Most all modern fighters are FBW as they are statically unstable, which allows them better maneuverability. --R On 2/28/2010 10:36 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: I believe the Blackbird was. Something about growing six inches or so at operating speed. Funny, all the Russian MIGS up to the 30 were boosted manual though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a shame they parted this car out
That's a *lot* of spare parts for $250! Engine, tires/wheels, brakes and suspension - Looks like like only sheetmetal is missing - Wish they told how many miles are on it - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:36 PM To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Its a shame they parted this car out Looks like it was a pretty nice car before the chain broke, would have been worth fixing for sure http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300D-1993-Parts-Car_W0QQitemZ170452607212QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27afc460ec -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
You wrote 1965, not the dark ages, but yes, it probably was tube equipment, Speaking of tubes - the textiles spinning controls we worked on back in the 90s still used Vac Tubes - the only place to get replacements was Russia.. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447 Well, we are talking 1965, not the dark ages, but yes, it probably was tube equipment, at least in the power output stages anyway if it was fly-by-wire. And it was simple dumb servo fly-by-wire where the electronics put the control surface where the stick indicated it should be and provided some feedback pressure, it wasn't smart fly- by-wire where the computer moves the surfaces to produce the aircraft response requested by stick movement. The fly-by-wire did allow one smart response, and that was immediate full rudder to correct the yaw from a failed engine at full speed. It's not possible for a human to react fast enough to prevent a fatal spin -- we lost one over Russia that crashed in Iran in the 60's -- spun so hard that the pilot rode it all the way down after the co-pilot was killed trying to eject at altitude -- his seat stayed in the airframe, squashing him, when the cannon shell fired, the fuselage was distorted so badly the seat wouldn't fit out the hole. Pilot punched out just before impact when the higher density of the air slowed the rotation down. The Ruskies found some way to stay with control cables at least up through the MIG 23. These don't operate the control surfaces directly, just hydraulic valves, but are vastly simpler to maintain and repair. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
I am beginning to think that I lost one or more of the diodes in the alternator. Has anyone replaced these and if so is it difficult. I have not done so, but I don't think it's massively difficult. I'd be inclined to take one out of a deader, though. It's really not worth it, this level of DIY repair. You have to get some kind of personal enjoyment out of doing it that way. Easiest way to diagnose a diode is to look at the waveform with an oscilloscope. You have to take it fairly far apart to test the diodes individually. The waveform should look like a rectified three-phase generator, which in fact it is. Six diodes. A missing bump is a giveaway. An AC voltmeter on the alternator output will show a higher than normal ripple voltage with a dead diode, but you have to have a measurement from a 'good' vehicle to compare it to. If you measure any significant back-leakage of current into the alternator when it's off, that's also an indictment of the diodes. -- Jim - The dome light on my 240D has a barely perceptible flicker when the car is idling at night but it still seems to be keeping the battery charged. Would that flicker mean a diode was bad? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
My '79 300TD had a bad diode so I replaced the rectifier assembly (twice) with a replacement bought from a local parts shop. This involves disassembling the case, unsoldering the old rectifier, and soldering in the new one. I don't know why the replacements failed, maybe the root cause was some other problem in the alternator. This repair was a lot of work and frustration and the rectifier assemblies cost $30-40, as I recall. In the end I bought a Bosch reman from Rusty and it worked flawlessly until I sold the car. I doubt you could see the flicker from a bad diode; the alternator is spinning pretty fast (small pulley) so the frequency would probably be higher than you can see. Also, the battery would limit dimming. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 08:06 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D I am beginning to think that I lost one or more of the diodes in the alternator. Has anyone replaced these and if so is it difficult. I have not done so, but I don't think it's massively difficult. I'd be inclined to take one out of a deader, though. It's really not worth it, this level of DIY repair. You have to get some kind of personal enjoyment out of doing it that way. Easiest way to diagnose a diode is to look at the waveform with an oscilloscope. You have to take it fairly far apart to test the diodes individually. The waveform should look like a rectified three-phase generator, which in fact it is. Six diodes. A missing bump is a giveaway. An AC voltmeter on the alternator output will show a higher than normal ripple voltage with a dead diode, but you have to have a measurement from a 'good' vehicle to compare it to. If you measure any significant back-leakage of current into the alternator when it's off, that's also an indictment of the diodes. -- Jim - The dome light on my 240D has a barely perceptible flicker when the car is idling at night but it still seems to be keeping the battery charged. Would that flicker mean a diode was bad? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
Scott Ritchey wrote: I doubt you could see the flicker from a bad diode; the alternator is spinning pretty fast (small pulley) so the frequency would probably be higher than you can see. Also, the battery would limit dimming. Good point, and incandescent bulbs don't strobe, their output is determined by filament temperature, not by current flow, and it takes some measurable fraction of a second to cool the filament. An unstable voltage regulator might show up in a light bulb. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A bargain at half the price, whatever it is
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Re: [MBZ] A bargain at half the price, whatever it is
Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1622609622.html '85 2 doors coupe diesel. I think I know what that might be. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
The dome light on my 240D has a barely perceptible flicker when the car is idling at night but it still seems to be keeping the battery charged. Would that flicker mean a diode was bad? Probably not. Thermal inertia of the filament is a lot slower than the 'whine' frequency of the alternator. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 mercedes e300 diesel - $3500
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Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
The belt is adjusted correctly. I am not that excited to repair it. I get more enjoyment out of driving my 4000 lb car than working on it! I am leaning towards the Rusty rebuild. Thanks for all of your emails.. Douglas Make sure the belt is correctly adjusted first. If the belt is not the problem I vote for the genuine Bosch reman from Rusty. It's not worth the trouble to diagnose/fix the current one yourself unless you just enjoy that sort of thing. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:04 To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D Battery went dead recently I checked and the alternator was only putting out 12.09 volts. I bought a voltage regulator (thanks Rusty got it fast) I installed it last monday. Though the float voltage on the battery was just a bit over 12 volts I hoped that it was because the battery was low. Now such luck. Barely started Sat. morning to go to work. Had to jump it to come home after work. I am going to Autozone to have them test the alternator today. When I put my battery charger on it the battery takes the charge. It has the correct acid levels. I am beginning to think that I lost one or more of the diodes in the alternator. Has anyone replaced these and if so is it difficult. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 tranny conversion/swap
We're starting the operation [tranny swap] in two weeks - is this a one weekend job, or will it take a full week? I swapped a manny into our 190D. Maybe you could do it in a weekend, if you'd done one or two before, but certainly not at the rate _I_ work! And if you're trying to make _both_ cars work in the end... Here's my log of the job: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
I think Wonko did 3 or 4 starters. I did 5 alternators before I got one that stuck. Its been 4.5 years now but I've never been happy with it. The headlights flutter sometimes at idle... I'm just waiting for it to die when I'll put in a rebuilt from Rusty. -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:16:29 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D Message-ID: 4b8ab2fd.5050...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob Rentfro wrote: I just had a rebuild Bosch last two weeks in my '77 300D. Thank goodness for Lifetime Replacement guarantee McParts has. Put in the replacement one in last week. It's funny how they try to convince you it was something other than a crappy rebuild. What was it that Wonko did serial replacement of on his 240D, the starter or the alternator? After two or three McParts failures, I think he went with Bosch rebuilt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
OK. A final comment: you'll have to swap the pulley from the old alternator to the new one. Make sure you do not damage the edges of the pulley (like clamping it in a vice) when you do this. A burr on the pulley edges will literally eat the belt. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 09:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D The belt is adjusted correctly. I am not that excited to repair it. I get more enjoyment out of driving my 4000 lb car than working on it! I am leaning towards the Rusty rebuild. Thanks for all of your emails.. Douglas Make sure the belt is correctly adjusted first. If the belt is not the problem I vote for the genuine Bosch reman from Rusty. It's not worth the trouble to diagnose/fix the current one yourself unless you just enjoy that sort of thing. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:04 To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D Battery went dead recently I checked and the alternator was only putting out 12.09 volts. I bought a voltage regulator (thanks Rusty got it fast) I installed it last monday. Though the float voltage on the battery was just a bit over 12 volts I hoped that it was because the battery was low. Now such luck. Barely started Sat. morning to go to work. Had to jump it to come home after work. I am going to Autozone to have them test the alternator today. When I put my battery charger on it the battery takes the charge. It has the correct acid levels. I am beginning to think that I lost one or more of the diodes in the alternator. Has anyone replaced these and if so is it difficult. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Neat R/C robotic copter
Like all supersonic production aircraft prior to F-16, the Blackbird had irreversible hydro-mechanical flight controls but they were augmented by electronics. As noted in an earlier post, the yaw axis was critical in the event of an inlet unstart (inlet spike malfunction) which produced a large and sudden drop in thrust from that engine. The unstart (and resulting uncommanded yaw) was much scarier than the electronics of the day. Eventually the yaw damper was given full authority which significantly reduced this yaw transient. In early flights (with limited yaw damper authority) inlet unstart consequences ranged from broken helmets to aircraft structural failure. It is amazing how far electronic flight controls have come. See: http://mikrokopter.de/ucwiki/VideoAbspielen?id=188 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! So, I know that I need a new relay, and if I glow for three or four relay time-out events (which get shorter and shorter) then I get a clean start with no roughness. Also, there is the 'purple wire mod' for even cheaper after-glow. You could make that mod now to see if after-glow will help. In the smaller connector to the pre-glow relay, remove the purple wire, and 'voila!' you've got after-glow. On my car I simply opened up the connector and pulled that pin out and wrapped it back with electrical tape, so I could restore original function quickly if needed. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad *The SD is still being recalcitrant on starting, even though I changed out a bad glow plug. I don't have an amp meter to test the current to the glow plugs, wondered if I should just get this new kit and replace the relay and all the plugs? --R Manufacturer:* BOSCH *Part Number:* W0133-1606169 *Description:* Glow Plug Kit 4 Plugs + Relay Bosch has superseded the glow control relay to a new glow plug kit which includes a new controller and 4 glow plugs. This new controller allows the glow plugs to continue functioning up to 3 minutes after the vehicle has been started, providing a smoother engine start up and less exhaust smoke. It is important to keep this in mind when testing the glow circuit func- tionality. For vehicles with 5 cylinders, 1 additional glow plug is required (0 250 201 039).;4 Plugs + Relay; Glow Plug Kit ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:13 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: We have a SR-71 at our local Air Museum at the Richmond Va airport - it's an awesome aircraft but it looks like it wants to be airborne not sitting on the ground. It looks more like a spaceship than a airplane. There is one at the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon, literally overshadowed by the Spruce Goose (it's under one wing of the latter). http://www.sprucegoose.org Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! The relay shuts off after ten seconds, or the light goes out after ten seconds? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D
A bad fan clutch results in high operating temps. at highway speed, so that is likely NOT the culprit in this instance. On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Park the car with the nose slightly pointed uphill, heater valves fully open. Open the bleeder on the top of the thermostat housing (unique to '77 and '78 300d) and run the motor. When a steady stream of coolant comes out, close the bleeder. One of the reasons why I liked Saabs so much. The inline engines of the 70's had a bleeder on the thermostat cap, which was the highest point on the engine. Bleeding was a one minute job, every time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Relay. I think it's supposed to stay on for 30 to 45 seconds? Need to take another look at the manual. The light goes out very quickly - like 2 or 3 seconds. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! The relay shuts off after ten seconds, or the light goes out after ten seconds? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
30 seconds I think is the general time, it seems to stay on about that long but I don't think the plugs are getting enough juice. I'm gonna order a new relay/plug kit and see how that works. The relay is not that much. --R On 3/1/2010 11:44 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Relay. I think it's supposed to stay on for 30 to 45 seconds? Need to take another look at the manual. The light goes out very quickly - like 2 or 3 seconds. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! The relay shuts off after ten seconds, or the light goes out after ten seconds? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
On my '87 wagon, pre-glow light should have stayed on from 4 to 7 seconds, and then the safety cut-out should have cut power to the glow plugs after an additional 20 to 35 seconds, according to procedure 15-0705. I only got a couple of seconds of indicator light and then about 10 seconds until the 'clunk' of the safety cut-out shutting off the relay. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Relay. I think it's supposed to stay on for 30 to 45 seconds? Need to take another look at the manual. The light goes out very quickly - like 2 or 3 seconds. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! The relay shuts off after ten seconds, or the light goes out after ten seconds? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
On your car, which I think has the OM617A, post 1981, according to 15-705, 25 to 40 seconds of glow before the safety cut-off at 32 deg F ambient. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad 30 seconds I think is the general time, it seems to stay on about that long but I don't think the plugs are getting enough juice. I'm gonna order a new relay/plug kit and see how that works. The relay is not that much. --R On 3/1/2010 11:44 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Relay. I think it's supposed to stay on for 30 to 45 seconds? Need to take another look at the manual. The light goes out very quickly - like 2 or 3 seconds. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '87 wagon is also 'not right', with rough idle and some smoke upon cold start. I started paying attention to how long I glowed, and my relay times out after just about 10 seconds! The relay shuts off after ten seconds, or the light goes out after ten seconds? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
I saw the Spruce Goose when it was still in Long Beach. Absolutely amazing aircraft, hard to grasp the size of it unless you're standing right there. Dan --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:54 AM On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:13 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: We have a SR-71 at our local Air Museum at the Richmond Va airport - it's an awesome aircraft but it looks like it wants to be airborne not sitting on the ground. It looks more like a spaceship than a airplane. There is one at the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon, literally overshadowed by the Spruce Goose (it's under one wing of the latter). http://www.sprucegoose.org Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Relay. I think it's supposed to stay on for 30 to 45 seconds? Need to take another look at the manual. The light goes out very quickly - like 2 or 3 seconds. Perhaps your capacitors have lost their capacity? Rich Thomas wrote: 30 seconds I think is the general time, it seems to stay on about that long but I don't think the plugs are getting enough juice. I'm gonna order a new relay/plug kit and see how that works. The relay is not that much. Let us hope the replacement relay has not been on the shelf for as long as the old one has been in the car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Let us hope the replacement relay has not been on the shelf for as long as the old one has been in the car. I seem to remember Marshall warning more than once against exactly that possibility when the subject of replacing glow plug relays came up. IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need given the ambient temperature and how recently you last drove the car, and then repeatedly glowing by hand as appropriate, ignoring the dash light. Causes a little more wear and tear on the ignition switch, admittedly, but you ought to have replaced that by now as a preventative measure in any 20+ year old Benz anyway. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Alex Chamberlain wrote: IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need For a true hands-on driving experience, bypass the timing circuit in the relay and use a pushbutton in the dash to run the plugs. One thousand and one, one thousand and two... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
I'm inclined to purchase a new relay, with advance agreement from the parts supplier on the warranty of the part and what constitutes relay behavior which would lead to a warranty replacement. I do have a new ignition switch, but I also have occasional drivers with little/no diesel experience and I'd like the car to perform 'as designed' to the maximum extent possible. Also, if the car breaks down while my Wife is driving, I don't want the repairing mechanic to have any more challenges than necessary. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Let us hope the replacement relay has not been on the shelf for as long as the old one has been in the car. I seem to remember Marshall warning more than once against exactly that possibility when the subject of replacing glow plug relays came up. IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need given the ambient temperature and how recently you last drove the car, and then repeatedly glowing by hand as appropriate, ignoring the dash light. Causes a little more wear and tear on the ignition switch, admittedly, but you ought to have replaced that by now as a preventative measure in any 20+ year old Benz anyway. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 tranny conversion/swap
I had my 123 4spd out and back in in 5 hours this weekend. On the 123 getting to the FW pedal bolts is the biggest PITA. Def a weekend job the first time. Go ahead and order new stretch bolts, throwout bearing, flex disk and rear trans mount. On 03/01/2010 09:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: We're starting the operation [tranny swap] in two weeks - is this a one weekend job, or will it take a full week? I swapped a manny into our 190D. Maybe you could do it in a weekend, if you'd done one or two before, but certainly not at the rate _I_ work! And if you're trying to make _both_ cars work in the end... Here's my log of the job: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hummer biting the dust
+1. The only hummer is a real hummer, everything else is a SUV in drag. -Rolf On 02/25/2010 10:10 AM, WILTON wrote: Good riddance. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
Turbo diesel. W124 or newer. Low mileage decent maintenance etc etc. Somewhere not to far from Atlanta and under $5k. Just shaking the tree looking for low hanging fruit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]
** ** ** * **** * * *** United States *** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ***** ** ** ** ** * On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 100301 2.861 2.902 3.018 3.013 2.844 2.825 2.819 2.851 2.956 3.023 100222 2.832 2.877 3.011 2.967 2.826 2.794 2.793 2.827 2.918 2.980 100215 2.756 2.809 2.991 2.905 2.751 2.705 2.718 2.777 2.846 2.902 100208 2.769 2.819 3.014 2.920 2.757 2.724 2.729 2.782 2.860 2.920 100201 2.781 2.832 3.017 2.926 2.775 2.731 2.744 2.797 2.876 2.950 100125 2.833 2.883 3.055 2.986 2.823 2.790 2.800 2.817 2.915 2.987 100118 2.870 2.923 3.065 3.023 2.867 2.834 2.831 2.827 2.947 3.008 100111 2.879 2.922 3.068 3.026 2.864 2.844 2.846 2.814 2.971 3.032 100104 2.797 2.827 2.935 2.932 2.772 2.771 2.750 2.746 2.908 2.959 091228 2.732 2.749 2.862 2.857 2.693 2.707 2.689 2.728 2.841 2.902 091221 2.726 2.740 2.853 2.841 2.687 2.708 2.680 2.740 2.825 2.891 091214 2.748 2.769 2.870 2.868 2.717 2.720 2.699 2.783 2.855 2.915 091207 2.772 2.792 2.874 2.896 2.740 2.742 2.726 2.806 2.884 2.942 091130 2.775 2.792 2.869 2.900 2.738 2.748 2.724 2.817 2.888 2.948 091123 2.787 2.803 2.868 2.907 2.753 2.762 2.738 2.825 2.896 2.954 091116 2.790 2.808 2.868 2.912 2.759 2.769 2.733 2.820 2.899 2.964 091109 2.801 2.821 2.866 2.926 2.772 2.779 2.746 2.823 2.909 2.972 091102 2.808 2.834 2.878 2.940 2.785 2.786 2.749 2.810 2.910 2.974 091026 2.801 2.819 2.843 2.923 2.773 2.790 2.740 2.776 2.904 2.968 091019 2.705 2.716 2.752 2.831 2.664 2.693 2.644 2.704 2.822 2.874 091012 2.600 2.610 2.690 2.723 2.554 2.581 2.530 2.650 2.732 2.791 091005 2.582 2.586 2.686 2.698 2.529 2.561 2.518 2.645 2.722 2.792 090928 2.601 2.607 2.703 2.714 2.552 2.585 2.525 2.658 2.742 2.807 090921 2.622 2.631 2.708 2.738 2.578 2.598 2.542 2.678 2.783 2.827 090914 2.634 2.650 2.720 2.755 2.599 2.607 2.555 2.683 2.795 2.847 090907 2.647 2.658 2.729 2.768 2.604 2.628 2.575 2.682 2.786 2.866 090831 2.674 2.691 2.742 2.779 2.649 2.649 2.618 2.692 2.802 2.893 090824 2.668 2.692 2.741 2.781 2.649 2.637 2.622 2.671 2.785 2.880 090817 2.652 2.687 2.739 2.771 2.646 2.623 2.607 2.633 2.744 2.872 090810 2.625 2.665 2.701 2.755 2.624 2.601 2.581 2.573 2.700 2.842 090803 2.550 2.579 2.637 2.671 2.535 2.520 2.513 2.537 2.643 2.763 090727 2.528 2.550 2.613 2.643 2.505 2.500 2.493 2.540 2.617 2.720 090720 2.496 2.514 2.600 2.630 2.456 2.470 2.443 2.559 2.595 2.703 090713 2.542 2.559 2.623 2.663 2.508 2.512 2.494 2.619 2.641 2.727 090706 2.594 2.609 2.656 2.714 2.560 2.565 2.547 2.648 2.706 2.787 090629 2.608 2.629 2.666 2.726 2.584 2.578 2.569 2.631 2.712 2.785 090622 2.616 2.634 2.670 2.730 2.590 2.587 2.583 2.614 2.720 2.789 090615 2.572 2.601 2.651 2.696 2.556 2.546 2.543 2.520 2.655 2.734 090608 2.498 2.516 2.566 2.619 2.468 2.474 2.474 2.442 2.603 2.676 090601 2.352 2.369 2.438 2.457 2.326 2.322 2.323 2.343 2.460 2.502 090525 2.274 2.305 2.409 2.410 2.251 2.229 2.242 2.302 2.384 2.407 090518 2.231 2.276 2.401 2.396 2.213 2.170 2.210 2.274 2.340 2.354 090511 2.216 2.255 2.395 2.386 2.186 2.156 2.198 2.270 2.329 2.337 090504 2.185 2.226 2.382 2.365 2.152 2.124 2.153 2.262 2.306 2.316 090427 2.201 2.241 2.395 2.374 2.171 2.142 2.171 2.270 2.315 2.320 090420 2.221 2.264 2.403 2.392 2.197 2.166 2.186 2.274 2.327 2.340 090413 2.229 2.273 2.420 2.402 2.204 2.175 2.202 2.250 2.336 2.350 090406 2.228 2.279 2.429 2.419 2.205 2.178 2.210 2.213 2.311 2.335 090330 2.221 2.281 2.424 2.399 2.218 2.176 2.203 2.146 2.282 2.297 090323 2.090 2.166 2.403 2.315
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
I'll take one too! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey. Turbo diesel. W124 or newer. Low mileage decent maintenance etc etc. Somewhere not to far from Atlanta and under $5k. Just shaking the tree looking for low hanging fruit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D
How do you figure? My 190D had a bad fan clutch the whole time I owned it, it'd heat up if it was at idle for too long because the fan never spun but would cool right off as soon as you got moving. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:14:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D Message-ID: b8cdcef41003010814r6c5c1123h44063cf677e80...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A bad fan clutch results in high operating temps. at highway speed, so that is likely NOT the culprit in this instance. On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Park the car with the nose slightly pointed uphill, heater valves fully open. Open the bleeder on the top of the thermostat housing (unique to '77 and '78 300d) and run the motor. When a steady stream of coolant comes out, close the bleeder. One of the reasons why I liked Saabs so much. The inline engines of the 70's had a bleeder on the thermostat cap, which was the highest point on the engine. Bleeding was a one minute job, every time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Same as the old pull/push knob on old MB Diesels, except that it doesn't integrate the shutoff, and doesn't have the coil indicator on the dash. I put that system on my 84 Escort Diesel back in the day. Alex Chamberlain wrote: IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need For a true hands-on driving experience, bypass the timing circuit in the relay and use a pushbutton in the dash to run the plugs. One thousand and one, one thousand and two... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
Like Dwight's 240D... -Curt Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:44:47 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Message-ID: 4b8c273f.5050...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alex Chamberlain wrote: IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need For a true hands-on driving experience, bypass the timing circuit in the relay and use a pushbutton in the dash to run the plugs. One thousand and one, one thousand and two... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
Posted this earlier http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1622412035.html --R On 3/1/2010 4:10 PM, Rolf wrote: Turbo diesel. W124 or newer. Low mileage decent maintenance etc etc. Somewhere not to far from Atlanta and under $5k. Just shaking the tree looking for low hanging fruit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Greenville, SC?
Anybody in the Greenville area? I have to go teach at a tv station (WHNS) down there in a couple weeks. Might have half a day or so on liberty as it were... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D
That's what went on with my 99 E300. It also had poor A/C performance and would throw refrigerant low errors on occasion. Fan clutch made it much happier -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 1, 2010, at 16:21, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you figure? My 190D had a bad fan clutch the whole time I owned it, it'd heat up if it was at idle for too long because the fan never spun but would cool right off as soon as you got moving. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:14:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D Message-ID: b8cdcef41003010814r6c5c1123h44063cf677e80...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A bad fan clutch results in high operating temps. at highway speed, so that is likely NOT the culprit in this instance. On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Park the car with the nose slightly pointed uphill, heater valves fully open. Open the bleeder on the top of the thermostat housing (unique to '77 and '78 300d) and run the motor. When a steady stream of coolant comes out, close the bleeder. One of the reasons why I liked Saabs so much. The inline engines of the 70's had a bleeder on the thermostat cap, which was the highest point on the engine. Bleeding was a one minute job, every time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wonder if this would be a good tool to have? How about this one?
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Re: [MBZ] wonder if this would be a good tool to have? How about this one?
Did you mean http://search.ebay.com/370331211334 ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1598814572.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1622518561.html http://www2.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpitm=mercedes+1990sloc=XSEfil=300dys=1987ye=1993ps=0pe=5500pgs=200submit=go http://www2.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpitm=mercedes+1990sloc=XSEfil=e300ys=1987ye=2010ps=0pe=5500pgs=200submit=go How 'bout a cheap W140? http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1620388363.html Rick Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:10:59 -0500 From: r...@winmutt.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey. Turbo diesel. W124 or newer. Low mileage decent maintenance etc etc. Somewhere not to far from Atlanta and under $5k. Just shaking the tree looking for low hanging fruit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Just Got New Tires
Just got four new 225/55R-16 95H Michelin Energy MXV4 put on the '05 E320. Rides like it is supposed to now. Had some Contis on itit was riding like it was sliding on four jello slabs. The Michelins feel so much better, so much correct-er. But...I did get 60K out of those Continentals. I am now content, although poorer. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
A CHEAP 140? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1598814572.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1622518561.html http://www2.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpitm=mercedes+1990sloc=XSEfil=300dys=1987ye=1993ps=0pe=5500pgs=200submit=go http://www2.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpitm=mercedes+1990sloc=XSEfil=e300ys=1987ye=2010ps=0pe=5500pgs=200submit=go How 'bout a cheap W140? http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1620388363.html Rick Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:10:59 -0500 From: r...@winmutt.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey. Turbo diesel. W124 or newer. Low mileage decent maintenance etc etc. Somewhere not to far from Atlanta and under $5k. Just shaking the tree looking for low hanging fruit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
From: wilt...@nc.rr.com A CHEAP 140? How 'bout a cheap W140? http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1620388363.html Yes Wilton, I do remember the quote There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes. Rick _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just Got New Tires
I had MVX4 Plus tires on the old 300D. Great tires, just expensive. I normally do not get complete tire life (that is, tread completely worn off) due to the rotten roads around here. I almost always end up with one or more separated belts or non-repairable punctures before the tread is gone. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Great CL ad.
I think I might avoid this guy as my advertising consultant. http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1623788068.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 rear suspension
If the front subframe mounts are loose, will that change the alignment as the subframe changes angle in reference to the road? I put new links on last year, but it has been squirrely ever since. (But not as bad as before) It seems to me that because all the links attach to the subframe, that the geometry should stay the same. Most of the time it is ok, but if you take your eyes off the road for a sec , it decides to steer with the rear axle, and you are drifting right or left. The front mounts are clearly busted, as the rubber has polished the bolted in center from moving up and down. Replacing the mounts is next, but I am trying to figure out if I am missing something else. This behavior may be caused by bad subframe mounts, but Is there something else I might be missing? 87 300D TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
From: 126die...@gmail.com This behavior may be caused by bad subframe mounts, but Is there something else I might be missing? What shape are the rear links in ? Rick _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad.
Hey - your not even supposed to be looking at craigslist are you? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I might avoid this guy as my advertising consultant. http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1623788068.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
The entire subframe can twist sideways if the mounts are bad. You will be much happier with the rear axle staying in one place, i think. Which links did you replace, and did you jack the wheel carrier up to normal position with the bolts LOOSE? Remember, there are 5 links on each side, and while the spring link doesn't have vulcanized in place rubber bushings, it does have steel ones that must be in good shape, too. Ditto for the rubber sleeve on the inner end of the rear tie rods (and the tie rod itself). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just Got New Tires
I had the contis on my 210. They are very tender... Run over a large pebble and they will slip a belt. I couldn't source the energy mxv4+ tires locally, so I ended up going with the primacy Mxv4+ ones. I find the 210 handles better with the front tires overinflated by 4psi. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 1, 2010, at 17:32, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Just got four new 225/55R-16 95H Michelin Energy MXV4 put on the '05 E320. Rides like it is supposed to now. Had some Contis on itit was riding like it was sliding on four jello slabs. The Michelins feel so much better, so much correct-er. But...I did get 60K out of those Continentals. I am now content, although poorer. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad.
He's not been going Craigs List Anonymous has he? --Original Message-- From: Peter Hertzing Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mar 1, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad. Hey - your not even supposed to be looking at craigslist are you? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I might avoid this guy as my advertising consultant. http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1623788068.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad.
He is going to be going to single guy living in his 3 cars Anonymous. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:55 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: He's not been going Craigs List Anonymous has he? --Original Message-- From: Peter Hertzing Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mar 1, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad. Hey - your not even supposed to be looking at craigslist are you? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I might avoid this guy as my advertising consultant. http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1623788068.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
As I said, replaced last year ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Yes, I jacked the wheel carrier up before tightening up all the links. the subframe twisting makes sense. The entire subframe can twist sideways if the mounts are bad. You will be much happier with the rear axle staying in one place, i think. Which links did you replace, and did you jack the wheel carrier up to normal position with the bolts LOOSE? Remember, there are 5 links on each side, and while the spring link doesn't have vulcanized in place rubber bushings, it does have steel ones that must be in good shape, too. Ditto for the rubber sleeve on the inner end of the rear tie rods (and the tie rod itself). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
I have one of those in my 240D-nice you can play with formulas for ambient temps, etc. I use the 'ticks' of the clock. Also you can hold it in an afterglow position. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad Alex Chamberlain wrote: IMHO you are better off just learning by feel how many glow cycles you need For a true hands-on driving experience, bypass the timing circuit in the relay and use a pushbutton in the dash to run the plugs. One thousand and one, one thousand and two... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gizmo next to Turbo
Hi Ho All - Was looking at parts I might need someday on Rusty's site and clicked on EGR Valve 1st, then EGR Filter, EGR Filter Gasket. Each click returned the comment: There are no Parts available for Sub Category : EGR Valve... Either there's no EGR on my 602-962 engine or Rusty doesn't carry it (highly unlikely) - Which means I no longer know what the thing between the Turbo and firewall is. It has a vacuum home going to it BTW. Thx Larry 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a car for wifey.
WILTON wrote: A CHEAP 140? A cheap one owner 140. Think he got one repair estimate too many and decided not to pay for the last one? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gizmo next to Turbo
The website is worldparts. it does not list everything Rusty can get. That is why he sez to call him. He has lots of sources, and the website is only one. Hi Ho All - Was looking at parts I might need someday on Rusty's site and clicked on EGR Valve 1st, then EGR Filter, EGR Filter Gasket. Each click returned the comment: There are no Parts available for Sub Category : EGR Valve... Either there's no EGR on my 602-962 engine or Rusty doesn't carry it (highly unlikely) - Which means I no longer know what the thing between the Turbo and firewall is. It has a vacuum home going to it BTW. Thx Larry 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More about Rusty Was: Gizmo next to Turbo
This afternoon I called Rusty about the subframe mounts. I know Febi and Lemforder, but the website also showed a Feq brand. I asked Rusty what those were, and he said it is the chinese stuff and they won't last. So, you see, the website is great for checking prices and to look at a picture, but if you want to order something, you are better off to call Rusty. Hi Ho All - Was looking at parts I might need someday on Rusty's site and clicked on EGR Valve 1st, then EGR Filter, EGR Filter Gasket. Each click returned the comment: There are no Parts available for Sub Category : EGR Valve... Either there's no EGR on my 602-962 engine or Rusty doesn't carry it (highly unlikely) - Which means I no longer know what the thing between the Turbo and firewall is. It has a vacuum home going to it BTW. Thx Larry 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad.
Maybe in 15 years that will look CHEAP. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: He is going to be going to single guy living in his 3 cars Anonymous. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:55 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: He's not been going Craigs List Anonymous has he? --Original Message-- From: Peter Hertzing Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mar 1, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great CL ad. Hey - your not even supposed to be looking at craigslist are you? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I think I might avoid this guy as my advertising consultant. http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1623788068.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gizmo next to Turbo
Does mean that finally ya'll understand that I can get EVERYTHING that is still available at at least a 20 percent discount? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:57:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gizmo next to Turbo The website is worldparts. it does not list everything Rusty can get. That is why he sez to call him. He has lots of sources, and the website is only one. Hi Ho All - Was looking at parts I might need someday on Rusty's site and clicked on EGR Valve 1st, then EGR Filter, EGR Filter Gasket. Each click returned the comment: There are no Parts available for Sub Category : EGR Valve... Either there's no EGR on my 602-962 engine or Rusty doesn't carry it (highly unlikely) - Which means I no longer know what the thing between the Turbo and firewall is. It has a vacuum home going to it BTW. Thx Larry 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Best of the Best
From this mornings Baton Rouge Business Report. News roundup: Local Mercedes-Benz dealership ranked as best in the country *Best of the Best: *Mercedes-Benz of Baton Rouge has been ranked as the top Mercedes dealership in the U.S. The dealership got a perfect score on Mercedes-Benz USA's Best of the Best rankings, which are based on vehicle sales, parts sales and customer service comments. The few times I've gone to get parts there they have been helpful and didn't live up to Stealership Status. Not as inexpensive as Rusty but not like the 2 Stealerships in New Orleans i.e. 95 bucks for a voltage regulator. MBoBR wanted 8 bucks more than Rusty for one. Russ W. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Just thought I'd check, as the drive (and ride) strangely if you leave the wheel carrier down and tighten the bolt. If you did not replace the tie rods, consider doing that, too (or at least the bushings for the eccentric bolt anyway), as a loose one will act just like a loose one up front -- excessive wander. I'm going to do the whole deal on the new 300D after I get the AC evaporator replaced this spring. Was going to drive to DC, but I think I'm going to fly instead this year. Less hassle for Mom. You should get much less rear end noise with now mounts as well. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 tranny conversion/swap
I just noticed from your log, that you swapped a standard tranny into a 2.5 190D -- did the tranny come from a 2.5, or a 2.2 190D? Bottom line is - will the drive shaft from a 601 powered standard car work in a 602 powered car with a transplanted standard tranny? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: We're starting the operation [tranny swap] in two weeks - is this a one weekend job, or will it take a full week? I swapped a manny into our 190D. Maybe you could do it in a weekend, if you'd done one or two before, but certainly not at the rate _I_ work! And if you're trying to make _both_ cars work in the end... Here's my log of the job: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html -- Jim -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:13:08 -0500 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Remember the video of the Top Gear guy getting a flight on the Blackbird? Incredible flight - would love to make it myself - Actually, that was a U-2. Much less advanced than an SR-71. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging System 1980 300D
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:05:02 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Good point, and incandescent bulbs don't strobe, their output is determined by filament temperature, not by current flow, and it takes some measurable fraction of a second to cool the filament. Nevertheless, you can see a 120 Hz component on the output of an incandescent bulb if you're looking for it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447
Craig McCluskey wrote: Actually, that was a U-2. Much less advanced than an SR-71. You're right. I thought those were retired long ago, but here's May in a U-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PmYItnlY5M ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 1977 300D
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:14:44 -0500 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: A bad fan clutch results in high operating temps. at highway speed, so that is likely NOT the culprit in this instance. I would think a bad fan clutch would result in high temperatures at low speed. At high speeds, the ram effect of the car moving through the air should have more of an effect than the fan. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] We were talking about cell phones ...
and being incognito. I saw this article today that comments on cell phone vulnerabilties. http://mocana.com/blog/2010/02/28/rutgers-study-roots-smartphones/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 tranny conversion/swap
I just noticed from your log, that you swapped a standard tranny into a 2.5 190D -- did the tranny come from a 2.5, or a 2.2 190D? Bottom line is - will the drive shaft from a 601 powered standard car work in a 602 powered car with a transplanted standard tranny? It was a 1984 2.2 manny. The driveshaft followed the tranny. The 'reference point' of the longer engine is the flywheel plane, in other words. Exactly what you are proposing, in other words. It's not entirely satisfactory. I think I need to swap rear ends too, and the thing bucks at the drop of a hat. Cruise control's wrong, and I don't have the driveline damper. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD still being bad
15-0705. I only got a couple of seconds of indicator light and then about 10 seconds until the 'clunk' of the safety cut-out shutting off the relay. Your capacitors are failing. If you can solder, for about $1 you can fix it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 201 tranny conversion/swap
I had my 123 4spd out and back in in 5 hours this weekend. Big difference RR, versus converting a car to manual! Or worse, what he's talking about: converting _both_ cars to each other! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
