Replace the pre-chamber.
They are not mild steel, and "repairs" will result in an injector
blowing out of the hold.
Peter
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Curt, Mitch.
The head numbers are different between 961 and 962, as are the
pre-chambers, sorta, kinda.
Geez, I miss Marshall. He would know.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 9:38 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
I think w
Curt, et al.
AFAIK the 602.961 inclined pre-chambers are inclined in a different way
in a 601.962.
Early 961 and 962's Up to engine #3837 are the same, different after.
Don't quote me, I so confuzzed.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 9:07 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably
Curt.
I'm always up for a road trip. You may need a psychiatrist after a day
or two with me though.
Har-de-har-har!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 9:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Really? It doesn't even make me chuckle... If I had Bob's car I'd JUMP on this
idea. I bet I could even get Fred to r
OK Don.
Right first time! Hip hip hooray! Someone reads Sanskrit a la Fred.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 8:54 PM, OK Don wrote:
FYI - this isn't thte hole in the head - the pre-chamber is inserted into
the head, a locking ring holds in the head, and the injector screws into the
pre-chamber. I
Rick.
All would agree that an "at leisure" welder in the neighborhood would be
a very good thing.
I don't, however, need a hole filled.
These are the (boogered) threads that hold in the injector.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 8:20 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
I doubt that you can helicoil so
Mitch.
True. may be hard to start.
The pre-chamber in the head and secure, then using the plastic crap
excluder to get the right angle and the wery wery carefully turn the handle.
After that I'll probably call Rusty!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 7:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Frederick W Moir w
I'm fine with my 617 in a Ram 50 :)
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 9:04 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
When it was new and the trans didn't slip my '96 w/318ci and auto trans
would do 20mpg on the highway. I don't think 30mpg would be impossible.
I think the Frito trucks got the 130hp engines but I'm given t
Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
I think with a 87 and a 90-93 OM602 one would have vertical injection and the
other inclined, which would mean different heads and prechambers at least.
Mitch.
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A well stocked machine shop would have the tap & h-coil. $50 would be a
high price to do the work.
-Pete-
On 6/18/2010 5:37 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
Rick, et al.
That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost
as much as a new pre-chamber.
Onward and upward.
Fred
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:59:15 -0400
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Really? It doesn't even make me chuckle... If I had Bob's car I'd JUMP on this
idea. I bet I could even get Fred to roadtrip to DC with me and supervise.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:39:04 -0400
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When it was new and the trans didn't slip my '96 w/318ci and auto trans would
do 20mpg on the highway. I don't think 30mpg would be impossible.
I think the Frito trucks got the 130hp engines but I'm given to understand its
not hard to turn them up to 150hp with the stock ip and turbo and 200+ wi
I should have mentioned that it passes the bounce test and I remember Marshall
saying that wasn't valid anyway.
The rears are relatively new (2 years), when I first got the car it failed the
bounce test on the rear...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:48:08 -0400
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAW
I hadn't noticed that before. His engineering isn't anything to write home
about but the theory is sound...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:28:05 -0500
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Yup, I'd like a mid-size extended but not crew cab, (big enough to tow a 190D)
with a small diesel, 150-180hp, 5spd manual trans, tow package with an extra
large radiator and heavy duty clutch, 4wd, 25-30mpg.
Seems to me something like that is doable...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:25:32 -0
FYI - this isn't thte hole in the head - the pre-chamber is inserted into
the head, a locking ring holds in the head, and the injector screws into the
pre-chamber. I read the problem as being the injector holding htreads inside
the pre-chamber. I could have mis-read however.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 a
Sounds like a sheared key on the pinion gear or one of the intermediates
then. Does the brake turn when the mower is in neutral and the rear wheels
are spun?
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 8:43 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote:
Here's what it looks like:
http://www.mowergraveyard.com/bmz_cache/1/1830004611dd53d
Here's what it looks like:
http://www.mowergraveyard.com/bmz_cache/1/1830004611dd53d9af4ccf519bbd606b.image.850x386.jpg
In that image, the little disk on the left side of the transaxle is the
disc brake. It does turn when a gear is engaged. The axles do not
turn.
Allan
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I'd think that a new one is worth the expense, but that's just my 2 cents.
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 8:20 PM, "Rick Knoble" wrote:
> I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but
then
> again, I've neve...
Another thought would be to have the old hole welded up and then d
> I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but then
> again, I've never asked about it.
Another thought would be to have the old hole welded up and then drill a new
hole and tap it.
My local weld shop guy can weld cast iron, aluminum, steel, stainless. He can't
weld
Frederick W Moir wrote:
I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
Can you set it up in a drill press to hold alignment, and turn the chuck by
hand, maybe using a chuck key for a handle?
It can be fun to get a bottoming tap started straight by hand,, especially if
Inquire for details offline if interested. $1,875
Tarek
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Randy,
You are my first real offer - thanks and congratulations!
It's gotten so expensive to fly anywhere in Canada from D.C. that we're
contemplating meeting with the BIL and family in Minneapolis this summer.
How sad is that!?!? I will so miss the Forks market and trips to Brandon
et al... ;
'Sounds like a nice Summer trip. Maybe I should "ease" up that way and let
you (and/or Ed) clean, clay, wax, etc., my 2 MB's. ;<
BTW, Yes, I do know that Winnipeg is significantly farther from here than
Toronto. SWMBO could drop off one at Ed's on the way and retrieve it on the
way bac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM
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I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but then
again, I've never asked about it.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
> Rick, et al.
> That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost as
> much as a new pre-chamber.
> Onward
Hey Andrew
Bring them both to Winnipeg and my son Tom and I will give it a go. We pulled
the engine from the big boat last
weekend in no time at all. I worked on it for a bit on Saturday afternoon and
he worked on it a bit on Sunday
morning. Dropped it in the truck and brought it back to the cit
Rick, et al.
That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost
as much as a new pre-chamber.
Onward and upward.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel headache #5
On 6/18/2010 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
I've never had a head for these apart yet, but can you have the
machine shop helico
Thanks again Max. Image received.
Yep, looks like the left-hand diagram all right.
The bushes fit in a way altogether different from my guess. Just as well
I asked, eh.
Hey, your guys are going great guns at the Footie World Cup. If they
continue like this, the tournament will become very in
andrew
Are you swapping out your struts? If so, how did you know you needed to do
this?
Yes, and no. Yes, I am replacing the struts.But no, I am not doing a
take-'em-out-put-'em-in job. My indie threw away my old struts several
years ago. He had checked them during an engine-mount replaceme
We have the best beer selection in the Nation from low-tax liquor stores
within a 2 mile radius of my house. :))
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Rolf wrote:
> If I lived in DC I might be interested but you are lacking the most
> fundamental motivator, beer.
>
> -Rolf
>
>
> On 06/18/2010 04:39
> No, no cracks, just some ham-fisted as...le cross-threaded the injector
> and damaged the threads in the pre-chamber. (How do you do that?!!).
> I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
> from the machine shop. Clean and skim.
I've never had a head for these apar
So ~ 11# of fluid then.
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 4:58 PM, "OK Don" wrote:
Probably around 1.7 lb./liter
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
> Probably, what's the...
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If I lived in DC I might be interested but you are lacking the most
fundamental motivator, beer.
-Rolf
On 06/18/2010 04:39 PM, Rolf wrote:
For some reason this is making me laugh so hard I'm hyperventilating.
-Rolf
On 06/18/2010 04:28 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Here is the deal.
I have a
Rolf, et al.
No, no cracks, just some ham-fisted as...le cross-threaded the injector
and damaged the threads in the pre-chamber. (How do you do that?!!).
I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
from the machine shop. Clean and skim.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/
Probably around 1.7 lb./liter
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
> Probably, what's the weight per liter of fluid?
>
> Walt
>
> On Jun 18, 2010 4:38 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
>
> Walt Zarnoch wrote:
> >
> > 147# for TC and tranny wet. TC when pulled off but not drained was 28#
Probably, what's the weight per liter of fluid?
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 4:38 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>
> 147# for TC and tranny wet. TC when pulled off but not drained was 28#
So ~110 plus crating for the tranny drained?
That's less than I expected.
Mitch.
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On 06/18/2010 01:07 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
Rusty.
That's a generous offer, I'll have to wait a month, budget y'know.
The head gasket/vsos/etc, will be ordered on Monday.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel headache #5
On 6/17/2010 4:06 PM, Rusty Cullens wrot
For some reason this is making me laugh so hard I'm hyperventilating.
-Rolf
On 06/18/2010 04:28 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Here is the deal.
I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282 K
miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange for
expert
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
147# for TC and tranny wet. TC when pulled off but not drained was 28#
So ~110 plus crating for the tranny drained?
That's less than I expected.
Mitch.
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147# for TC and tranny wet. TC when pulled off but not drained was 28#
Walt
On Jun 16, 2010 9:30 PM, "Walt Zarnoch" wrote:
We've got a scale that I can set it on, old cast iron beam ballance affair
that still is good to a half pound or so.
I'll get the LeBaron moved and give the tranny a mass-
Here is the deal.
I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282 K
miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange for
expertise/labor. The labor would involve 1) removing it from my car so you
could have it, and 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine f
Ask Paintscratch to provide the primer too - that way you'll be sure of
getting a compatible primer the wrong primer and it will all be falling
off. ;-^
LarryT
91 300D
OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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I've got to grind off some rust on the A-pillar of my '95 E300 and
repaint a spot about 3 inches across. I'm going to get some paint from
paintscratch.com. What is a good primer to apply to the bare metal?
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 326k miles
'95 E300 275k miles (project status
Contact me at robert.rent...@aps.com
On Jun 18, 2010 10:53 AM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote:
I can't find his email address.
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R A Bennell wrote:
I would like to have the Cummins but really do not need a 3/4 ton or bigger.
Same old story. I want a 1/2 ton with
a reasonable diesel and it need not be 7 liters.
At one time, Frod was supposed to be developing a V-6 version of that generation
of PSD for the F150. I think
OK, standing by driver's door.
Wilton
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well standing next to the car anyway.
WILTON wrote:
In background? Where?
Wilton
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Are you swapping out your struts? If so, how did you know you needed to do
this?
Andre
1983 hard jarring rear ended 1983 300TD
Quasi 1985 300TD ISO engine swap to restore SLS
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 wrote:
> Screen shot from EPC is on i
Rusty.
That's a generous offer, I'll have to wait a month, budget y'know.
The head gasket/vsos/etc, will be ordered on Monday.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel headache #5
On 6/17/2010 4:06 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I can do it for $204.00
Rusty Cullens
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- Origi
By the time they fail the bounce test, they are long gone. Bounce test:
At suspicious corner, use your full body to push up/down several cycles
to get the car moving as fast as you can, then stop pushing and see how
much it moves. If you get a full up/down cycle, the shock is toast. If
it stops
Hey,
How do you diagnose bad front shocks? My 240D still doesn't drive like it
should and lately it feels like the right front is a bit more bouncy than it
should be.
Thanks
Curt
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buy a Sprinter cab/chassis and put a pickup bed on it.
D-C really missed the boat by not offering the sprinter powertrain
in the Dogde cab/chassis and by not delivering the Caravan/Grand
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For ne
Is that a fan to cool the T-case, or blades to chop the weeds that could get
in there? It souldn't be too hard to build a stronger front T-case mount.
I have a freind who'se visiting in Anderson now - I sent this to him, I'll
report back if he goes to look at it.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:22 AM,
Why? Its just a short driveshaft that doesn't have to flex. Divorced transfer
cases aren't anything new...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:35:37 -0400
From: Walt Zarnoch
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I would like to have the Cummins but really do not need a 3/4 ton or bigger.
Same old story. I want a 1/2 ton with
a reasonable diesel and it need not be 7 liters.
Randy
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Another thing I hadn't thought of, look at the axles in the wheels, see if one
is turning more than the wheel. I've had that before...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:55:31 -0400
From: "Allan Streib"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle
Message-ID: <127687
As I said, I missed several posts to this thread, so I'm probably repeating
myself.
Is the engine seized? Will it turn over when you crank it? If it turns,
but won't catch, check for all the simple stuff first. Fuel ? Spark ?
Could be as simple as a hunk of crud made its was to the fuel filter
Ford makes a decent truck. We had an F150 and it seemed more solid than the
Chevy Blazer we had previously (though a better comparison would have been
Ranger to Blazer since the Blazer was built on the S10 platform)
Though I pulled up next to a new Dodge with a Cummins the other day and that
s
My vote is on a sheared key/pin. If all forward momentum was not stopped
when the shift to reverse happened, and then clutch was let out, "pink",
there goes a shear pin/key.
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 11:34 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote:
> There's a big collar on the pulley so I can only see about 1/16" of
But MB does not provide a pickup body so what is a fellow supposed to do?
Got to be in someone else's chassis and the F150 is as good as anything else
for the purpose.
Randy
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I was more thinking about the no tail housing and speedo gear still
spinning, but yeah, the sheet metal mount is another thing to worry about...
Walt, who thinks that's too good a motor for a frod like that...
On Jun 18, 2010 11:47 AM, "Jim Cathey" wrote:
> That's exactly what Daimler-Chrysler
That's exactly what Daimler-Chrysler should have made,
out of the 1500 and the Sprinter powerplant. I could
have been seriously tempted by one of those!
Or perhaps rather, the Dakota.
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have been seriously tempted by one of those!
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Walt Zarnoch wrote:
That tranny to t-case linkage gives me the screaming heebie jeebies...
The driveshaft between the two looks OK from what little I can see, but I have
my doubts about the front t-case mount. I hope it isn't 1/8" sheet steel bent
into an L.
If in doubt, put it in 4 low and
Don't assume the worst until you are able to prove it.
An analogy if you will:
We were riding down the lake in one of our boats a couple of years back. My
younger son was driving. I said
something to him and he did not hear me so he cut the throttle back to reduce
noise and the engine - a 35HP
That tranny to t-case linkage gives me the screaming heebie jeebies...
On Jun 17, 2010 9:41 AM, "Ed Booher" wrote:
Thought this was funny enough to pass on.
EdB
original link http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html";>
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919
There's a big collar on the pulley so I can only see about 1/16" of
the shaft, but it looks like it is turning. So something inside the
transaxle has let go, most likely.
There are keys and pins inside, as well as outside. The
damage may not be all that bad. Only way to know for sure
is to l
Allan Streib wrote:
There's a big collar on the pulley so I can only see about 1/16" of the shaft,
but it looks like it is turning. So something inside the transaxle has let go, most
likely.
Or an axle is turning without turning the wheel it's attached to. You didn't
have a wheel nut come
Unless you have the time and enjoy the work, it sounds to me like it's a parts
car now.
You should be able to find a decent replacement, even a nice upgrade, much less
money than it will cost to fix this one up, given everything you've listed and
now the seized engine.
Allan
On Fri, 18 Jun 20
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:14 -0400, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
> If it sort of wants to go, that implies that it does shift, so I'd
> first look at the input shaft/pulley and the drive axles/hubs for
> something stripped or sheared.
Yeah that's what it's like. Gears still are there, both forwards and re
Water pump?
Timing chain?
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro
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AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand.
It;s the engin
A replacement transaxle shouldn't be that hard to come by, there are probably
only a couple models in existance. Take a picture I've got an oldish (not old
by my standards but probably 15-20 years) Lawn Chief that has the same basic
system...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:05:32 -0400
From: A
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:43:01 -0400 Ed Booher wrote:
> Sorry having a vacuum problem, the motor does not shut off with
> key, 83
> 240. I am pretty sure I know what the injection pump is under the hood,
> but there seem to be three or four vacuum lines running to it? So am
> unsure which to p
well standing next to the car anyway.
WILTON wrote:
In background? Where?
Wilton
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95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D
But its probably in nice shape otherwise? Its a shame when they get to
that point. If the paint and body are in good shape, it might be worth
it to fnd a wrecked or rusty car with good parts. What year is it?
What color is your seats?
Bob Rentfro wrote:
The issue is now deciding how much
I missed part of the thread, what happened? Did you break the timing chain
?
Ed
300E
On 18 June 2010 08:33, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 <
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil> wrote:
> I'd really like to know the root cause, if you're inclined to
> investigate.
>
> -Max
>
> -Origina
I'd really like to know the root cause, if you're inclined to
investigate.
-Max
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AMEN...
Bob r
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:
> This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona
> desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at
> ONE with the crank forever.
>
> RIP.
>
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
>
>
Screen shot from EPC is on its way...
-Max
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Subject: [MBZ] Help with bushing kit configuration for lurch-restrai
Come in September and you can join us for the New England MB chowdah fest.
And no Fords at that.
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
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