Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
Gerry wrote: The VIN on my '83 240D is AB23AODB409395. What's yours? WDB1231231A151645 What's that going to tell you? mao I'm not knowledgeable about VINs, but since some parts are listed as before a certain VIN number or after such and such a VIN number, I assume they are in series and would indicate if one car was built before another. Would they? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
I am pretty sure the 240D (and 200D) went all the way to the end of the 123 chassis in 85. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 Hendrik who is still missing mao's 240D Mountain Man wrote: Curt wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. I have an '84 240D - so, mine is one of the last ones - euro. It really does have remarkable performance. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tunnel roll
In theory F1 cars can drive upside down but then the oil would drain into the heads and... Hendrik who did a roll in a car once and it was not nice but it seems mao has not noticed the damage ;-) relng...@aol.com wrote: My thoughts, too. Otherwise, I'd like to see the modifications they had to make to the road surface/wall transition points to get the car car onto and off of the wall/roof... BTW, that looked like a slow roll to me. RLE/who thinks he knows the diff between a slow roll, an aileron roll and a snap roll ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
Hendrik Fay wrote: I am pretty sure the 240D (and 200D) went all the way to the end of the 123 chassis in 85. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 But MBUSA never certified the 240D for sale in USA as a 1984 or 1985 model. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
Also, there is a shade-tree method for determining if your car's rear end height is correct or not. You should find 19 inches measuring from the center of the star in the wheel straight up and over the lip of the fender to the chrome/rubber trim strip. Plus or minus 0.5 inches is probably acceptable. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer I would proceed in the following order: 1. Check the rubber mounts at the top of the strut. If you had bad spheres, these mounts may well be pulverised/absent. Check also the bottom balljoint. 2. Test the function of the levelling valve (see instructions below) 3. Remove and test/replace the strut. A small leak is no definitive indication that it needs replacement (see permissible leakage below). Some clarifications/suggestions: Service document 32-501 - Functional Description explains the role of each of the levelling system components. This document is available at bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf and is also on the 115, 107, 123, and 126 service manual discs. -the nitrogen spheres provide variable-rate springing (only) when there is hydraulic pressure present. They do NOT have the damping effect of a shock absorber. -the shock absorbers/dampers are simple flow-constricting perforated discs located inside the struts. They travel back and forth on the end of the piston, constricting flow in both directions. They don't normally wear out because there are no moving parts. I suppose it is conceivable that flat spheres could damage the dampers (eg sudden pressure increases over bumps causing the o-ring around the damper to blow out). -the strut seals can eventually wear out, and will do so quicker if your cells/spheres are flat because of sudden pressure increases. Poor maintenance (infrequent fluid/filter changes, dusty roads) can shorten the life of the seals. A bit of leakage is permissible, up to 0.4L / 10,000km. -flat spheres will also destroy the ball joint at the bottom of the strut as well as the rubber mounts at the top. The latter is why I'm asking whether you feel the jarring, or whether you are just hearing it. If you just hear it, it could be the ball joint or rubber mounts. If you are so inclined, it is possible to check the struts for correct damping function. This is described in another service document 32-510 - Checking spring struts. Here's an easy way to check that the levelling valve's base pressure is working correctly: 1. Raise the rear of the vehicle on ramps (better yet over a pit) and shut off the engine. Make sure the ramps are high enough to allow you sufficient space not to be crushed when you lower the car's hydraulic pressure and it drops a couple of inches! 2. Disconnect the leveling valve's lever from the sway bar. Put the lever in emptying position (towards the ground; away from the bleed screw) and leave it there. The car should NOT DROP. Then measure the height of a specific point on the car relative to the ground. Wait an hour or two. 5. After the delay (with engine off), measure the vehicle height again. It should be exactly the same. If it is NOT, you have a leaky base pressure valve. The next step is important: 6. Engine off, position a drain pan and relieve the base pressure by opening the bleed screw on the levelling valve. The car MUST DROP significantly. Measure the height. If the car did NOT drop, your base pressure valve isn't working. A non-functional base pressure valve will result in a lower-than-normal ride height and poor damping, which is most often resolved (incorrectly) by setting the levelling valve to fill until the correct height is achieved. That hack leads to knocking noises, unstable ride height, and incorrect damping behaviour. Note that the base pressure valve is internal to the levelling valve and operates completely independent of the position of the fill/drain lever. The bleed screw is normally the only way of relieving the base pressure (aside from opening one of the hydraulic lines). There's an MB rebuild kit (used to be about $100) for the levelling valve that may revive it. You may also find that the behaviour is temperature dependent (worse when hot). This further implicates the base pressure valve, which will leak more when warm, causing lower pressure and generally bad behaviour in the system. D. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: [snip] The second issue is the hard, jarring thumps in the rear when I drive over potholes. The lack of dampening was not cured when I installed new air cells (accumulator sphere). The tech pointed out, however, that one of my rear hydropneumatic struts was leaking slightly. This seemed strange, considering that the car rides high and doesn't settle when sitting. He said that the function of the struts was to act as a
[MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt. Pleasant)
If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt. Pleasant)
Rich Thomas wrote: If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html Put it on jack stands and see if it will do 160. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Add for this 140 rod-bender reads: 300 Mercedes SD - $1500 (charleston) 25 miles. needs some work. Small oil leak. 8433019402 leave message I'm thinking the small oil leak is between ring and cylinder wall(s)? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:05 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $ (Mt.Pleasant) If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Oooh, it's my favorite (and rare) W140 color: Notblack. Is the factory setting meant to imply that it's stored indoors? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Buy it and drop your wagon diesel in it. --R On 7/12/2010 9:25 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Add for this 140 rod-bender reads: 300 Mercedes SD - $1500 (charleston) 25 miles. needs some work. Small oil leak. 8433019402 leave message I'm thinking the small oil leak is between ring and cylinder wall(s)? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:05 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $ (Mt.Pleasant) If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll?
But we haven't been really fighting in Afghanistan for 10 years - we took only a few weeks to run the Taliban and Ben Laden's bunch off to sanctuary in Pakistan, then turned our backs on them to kick another certain Bully dictator who tried to kill our Boy's Daddy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll? RLE wrote: Was anyone fool enough to think it wasn't computer generated? It was a youtube video and we are american. What do you think? We believe everything we see. i.e. two airplanes blew up two buildings in NYC so we can fight in Afghan for 10 years and still lose. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
What part of the chrome trim strip - top, bottom, or middle?? On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Also, there is a shade-tree method for determining if your car's rear end height is correct or not. You should find 19 inches measuring from the center of the star in the wheel straight up and over the lip of the fender to the chrome/rubber trim strip. Plus or minus 0.5 inches is probably acceptable. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer I would proceed in the following order: 1. Check the rubber mounts at the top of the strut. If you had bad spheres, these mounts may well be pulverised/absent. Check also the bottom balljoint. 2. Test the function of the levelling valve (see instructions below) 3. Remove and test/replace the strut. A small leak is no definitive indication that it needs replacement (see permissible leakage below). Some clarifications/suggestions: Service document 32-501 - Functional Description explains the role of each of the levelling system components. This document is available at bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf and is also on the 115, 107, 123, and 126 service manual discs. -the nitrogen spheres provide variable-rate springing (only) when there is hydraulic pressure present. They do NOT have the damping effect of a shock absorber. -the shock absorbers/dampers are simple flow-constricting perforated discs located inside the struts. They travel back and forth on the end of the piston, constricting flow in both directions. They don't normally wear out because there are no moving parts. I suppose it is conceivable that flat spheres could damage the dampers (eg sudden pressure increases over bumps causing the o-ring around the damper to blow out). -the strut seals can eventually wear out, and will do so quicker if your cells/spheres are flat because of sudden pressure increases. Poor maintenance (infrequent fluid/filter changes, dusty roads) can shorten the life of the seals. A bit of leakage is permissible, up to 0.4L / 10,000km. -flat spheres will also destroy the ball joint at the bottom of the strut as well as the rubber mounts at the top. The latter is why I'm asking whether you feel the jarring, or whether you are just hearing it. If you just hear it, it could be the ball joint or rubber mounts. If you are so inclined, it is possible to check the struts for correct damping function. This is described in another service document 32-510 - Checking spring struts. Here's an easy way to check that the levelling valve's base pressure is working correctly: 1. Raise the rear of the vehicle on ramps (better yet over a pit) and shut off the engine. Make sure the ramps are high enough to allow you sufficient space not to be crushed when you lower the car's hydraulic pressure and it drops a couple of inches! 2. Disconnect the leveling valve's lever from the sway bar. Put the lever in emptying position (towards the ground; away from the bleed screw) and leave it there. The car should NOT DROP. Then measure the height of a specific point on the car relative to the ground. Wait an hour or two. 5. After the delay (with engine off), measure the vehicle height again. It should be exactly the same. If it is NOT, you have a leaky base pressure valve. The next step is important: 6. Engine off, position a drain pan and relieve the base pressure by opening the bleed screw on the levelling valve. The car MUST DROP significantly. Measure the height. If the car did NOT drop, your base pressure valve isn't working. A non-functional base pressure valve will result in a lower-than-normal ride height and poor damping, which is most often resolved (incorrectly) by setting the levelling valve to fill until the correct height is achieved. That hack leads to knocking noises, unstable ride height, and incorrect damping behaviour. Note that the base pressure valve is internal to the levelling valve and operates completely independent of the position of the fill/drain lever. The bleed screw is normally the only way of relieving the base pressure (aside from opening one of the hydraulic lines). There's an MB rebuild kit (used to be about $100) for the levelling valve that may revive it. You may also find that the behaviour is temperature dependent (worse when hot). This further implicates the base pressure valve, which will leak more when warm, causing lower pressure and generally bad behaviour in the system. D. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: [snip] The second issue is the hard, jarring thumps in the rear when I drive over potholes. The lack of dampening was not cured when I installed new air cells
Re: [MBZ] tunnel roll
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] tunnel roll My thoughts, too. Otherwise, I'd like to see the modifications they had to make to the road surface/wall transition points to get the car car onto and off of the wall/roof... BTW, that looked like a slow roll to me. RLE/who thinks he knows the diff between a slow roll, an aileron roll and a snap roll ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. And yes, despite the wawrnings I received a dousing of used SLS fluid when I disconnected the line into the sphere. It's not that bad, BTW - sort of like a cocktail of 10W30 and biodiesel. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: As for the spheres - they're both NEW and operate as they should. Is this the car that has one brand new accumulator and one that's a bit older and was is service with a used one? Or did you just put on two fresh , new ones? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccuratespeedometer
Middle. The tape should be held with some tension on it, and the highest portion of the trim strip that touches the tape. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccuratespeedometer What part of the chrome trim strip - top, bottom, or middle?? On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Also, there is a shade-tree method for determining if your car's rear end height is correct or not. You should find 19 inches measuring from the center of the star in the wheel straight up and over the lip of the fender to the chrome/rubber trim strip. Plus or minus 0.5 inches is probably acceptable. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer I would proceed in the following order: 1. Check the rubber mounts at the top of the strut. If you had bad spheres, these mounts may well be pulverised/absent. Check also the bottom balljoint. 2. Test the function of the levelling valve (see instructions below) 3. Remove and test/replace the strut. A small leak is no definitive indication that it needs replacement (see permissible leakage below). Some clarifications/suggestions: Service document 32-501 - Functional Description explains the role of each of the levelling system components. This document is available at bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf and is also on the 115, 107, 123, and 126 service manual discs. -the nitrogen spheres provide variable-rate springing (only) when there is hydraulic pressure present. They do NOT have the damping effect of a shock absorber. -the shock absorbers/dampers are simple flow-constricting perforated discs located inside the struts. They travel back and forth on the end of the piston, constricting flow in both directions. They don't normally wear out because there are no moving parts. I suppose it is conceivable that flat spheres could damage the dampers (eg sudden pressure increases over bumps causing the o-ring around the damper to blow out). -the strut seals can eventually wear out, and will do so quicker if your cells/spheres are flat because of sudden pressure increases. Poor maintenance (infrequent fluid/filter changes, dusty roads) can shorten the life of the seals. A bit of leakage is permissible, up to 0.4L / 10,000km. -flat spheres will also destroy the ball joint at the bottom of the strut as well as the rubber mounts at the top. The latter is why I'm asking whether you feel the jarring, or whether you are just hearing it. If you just hear it, it could be the ball joint or rubber mounts. If you are so inclined, it is possible to check the struts for correct damping function. This is described in another service document 32-510 - Checking spring struts. Here's an easy way to check that the levelling valve's base pressure is working correctly: 1. Raise the rear of the vehicle on ramps (better yet over a pit) and shut off the engine. Make sure the ramps are high enough to allow you sufficient space not to be crushed when you lower the car's hydraulic pressure and it drops a couple of inches! 2. Disconnect the leveling valve's lever from the sway bar. Put the lever in emptying position (towards the ground; away from the bleed screw) and leave it there. The car should NOT DROP. Then measure the height of a specific point on the car relative to the ground. Wait an hour or two. 5. After the delay (with engine off), measure the vehicle height again. It should be exactly the same. If it is NOT, you have a leaky base pressure valve. The next step is important: 6. Engine off, position a drain pan and relieve the base pressure by opening the bleed screw on the levelling valve. The car MUST DROP significantly. Measure the height. If the car did NOT drop, your base pressure valve isn't working. A non-functional base pressure valve will result in a lower-than-normal ride height and poor damping, which is most often resolved (incorrectly) by setting the levelling valve to fill until the correct height is achieved. That hack leads to knocking noises, unstable ride height, and incorrect damping behaviour. Note that the base pressure valve is internal to the levelling valve and operates completely independent of the position of the fill/drain lever. The bleed screw is normally the only way of relieving the base pressure (aside from opening one of the hydraulic lines). There's an MB rebuild kit (used to be about $100) for the levelling valve that
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
If I could find a euro tow hitch so I could tow my sailboat... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $ (Mt.Pleasant) Buy it and drop your wagon diesel in it. --R On 7/12/2010 9:25 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Add for this 140 rod-bender reads: 300 Mercedes SD - $1500 (charleston) 25 miles. needs some work. Small oil leak. 8433019402 leave message I'm thinking the small oil leak is between ring and cylinder wall(s)? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:05 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $ (Mt.Pleasant) If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12 Wonderful Wagons We Want
Rich wrote and provided the following link: 2 Benzes, and some other greats. My dad bought a used Vista Cruiser back when for car #2, it was cool. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/07/12-wagons-we-want?pid=21 There are a number of VERY cool wagons in that list. I think they should add the Big GM Wagon - the Caprice, The Buick Roadmaster, etc. especially, the ones with the Corvette LT1 engine! The 123 Wagon, The E55 AMG Wagon, and The Olds Vista Cruiser get my vote for the best! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist
Mitch provided the following link: 250C: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1836491270.html Well, unless I am mistaken (and I don't think I am), a 250C would be a coupe. I pretty sure this car has 4 doors. Maybe it only has two doors on one side and none on the other! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist
Mitch provided the following link: 740iL: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1836493761.html This makes me miss my 7 series a little. If this has not had the engine replaced, it is a ticking time bomb. If it still has the nikosil engine, it will burn oil, it will warp the block, and it will need an engine. The wife of the guy who bought my 7 series, works in the building right next to mine. So, I see it all the time. It is a nice car. I miss it. But, the funny thing is they still have the snow tires on it. I can't imagine how fast those tires are wearing with this heat and dry roads. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist
Donald Snook wrote: Mitch provided the following link: 250C: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1836491270.html Well, unless I am mistaken (and I don't think I am), a 250C would be a coupe. Oops. Maybe the seller thinks E if for injected and C is for carburetors? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Curt's 240D?
That rust looks worse than New England rust. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. (Southern car now starting to show NE rust) 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Replacement for Curt's 240D? http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1837398342.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist
It is a 108 body. It most likely is a 250S, complete with dual Zeniths Mitch provided the following link: 250C: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1836491270.html Well, unless I am mistaken (and I don't think I am), a 250C would be a coupe. I pretty sure this car has 4 doors. Maybe it only has two doors on one side and none on the other! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
Yeah it depends on how much $$ for another oil cooler. If I can find one cheap enough (like what I paid for the one I have) I'll do that. If not I think I only need to replace one of the lines which looks like an easy enough job on a 240D. I had the lines done by my Indy but that was just a lack of time on my part thing... -Curt Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:28:46 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: aanlktimumakc6eks1lxhznxgevvxqxzdg3swlgtgk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That oil cooler came off a 240D in Kaleb's yard - back when I had a 240D -- Can you fabricate a new length of hose between the fittings to get it connected? Get a set of steel lines from the fliter housing to the cooler from an earlier 240D? Lots of options to explore. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. So when I look for a used oil cooler (tap tap tap) I should ask for one from a 300D turbo and not a 240D? -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
Whats the part number? Thanks -Curt Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:44:02 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: sig.2808ee3427.4c3a4932.30...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No, the turbo is different as well. There are 2 different part numbers and both show to fit only 240D Curt Raymond wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. So when I look for a used oil cooler (tap tap tap) I should ask for one from a 300D turbo and not a 240D? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Curt's 240D?
I hate you... Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:00:07 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Replacement for Curt's 240D? Message-ID: 4c3a7727.1040...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1837398342.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
WDBAB23A7DB394832 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:07:55 -0400 From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: b189185a7fa34a3fb2a9894e7bb8c...@gerry Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The VIN on my '83 240D is AB23AODB409395. What's yours? Gerry - Curt wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. I have an '84 240D - so, mine is one of the last ones - euro. It really does have remarkable performance. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
'83 was the last year in the US. I knew about '84 elsewhere but presumed that the introduction of the 201 would have killed off the 240D... -Curt Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:26:27 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing? Message-ID: 4c3af4db.3010...@ozemail.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am pretty sure the 240D (and 200D) went all the way to the end of the 123 chassis in 85. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 Hendrik who is still missing mao's 240D Mountain Man wrote: Curt wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. I have an '84 240D - so, mine is one of the last ones - euro. It really does have remarkable performance. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
andrew strasfogel wrote: I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. Per chance, is the hard side the now slightly used accumulator? That is, the one that was in service along with the used one? Your description exactly fits my experiences with tired accumulators. Two cars, so far. And since neither of them have strut troubles, I have no experience there. Does the self-level part work right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
Curt Raymond wrote: '83 was the last year in the US. I knew about '84 elsewhere but presumed that the introduction of the 201 would have killed off the 240D. ...except for the taxi market. Oh, BTW, did I mention that there's a Checker for sale cheap on the other side of town? If a Checker Marathon weighs what I think it does, he's asking about twice its intrinsic value. http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1822103800.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Oh, BTW, did I mention that there's a Checker for sale cheap on the other side of town? If a Checker Marathon weighs what I think it does, he's asking about twice its intrinsic value. http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1822103800.html How come I never see one of those for sale near me? I really want a Marathon to drop a Cummins diesel in. That one looks like it's been lowered, doesn't it? Kind of strange. Or maybe there's something unpleasant wrong with the suspension, like broken springs. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1822103800.html How come I never see one of those for sale near me? I really want a Marathon to drop a Cummins diesel in. That one looks like it's been lowered, doesn't it? Kind of strange. Or maybe there's something unpleasant wrong with the suspension, like broken springs. When I parked next to it a year ago I didn't notice it (or the other Marathon that used to be parked next to it) being low, but from the pics it looks like the back end might be sagging a bit. I don't know the details, but it's been sitting out front at a salvage yard for a couple of years. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
Curt. Tadmuks? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/12/2010 12:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Yeah it depends on how much $$ for another oil cooler. If I can find one cheap enough (like what I paid for the one I have) I'll do that. If not I think I only need to replace one of the lines which looks like an easy enough job on a 240D. I had the lines done by my Indy but that was just a lack of time on my part thing... -Curt Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:28:46 -0500 From: OK Donokd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: aanlktimumakc6eks1lxhznxgevvxqxzdg3swlgtgk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That oil cooler came off a 240D in Kaleb's yard - back when I had a 240D -- Can you fabricate a new length of hose between the fittings to get it connected? Get a set of steel lines from the fliter housing to the cooler from an earlier 240D? Lots of options to explore. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. So when I look for a used oil cooler (tap tap tap) I should ask for one from a 300D turbo and not a 240D? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Life without an oil cooler
Sounds like it might be time for a new radiator. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:11 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Life without an oil cooler No AC. No fluid coupling either as this is a 240D. I've thought about the aux fan but I have my doubts that it would provide enough air flow at speed to make a difference. Remember this is only a problem at speeds ABOVE 60mph, theres lots of airflow over the radiator at that speed. I'd thought about a water mister too but my conclusion has repeatedly been that to make it worth it for an hour commute I'd need so much water that the weight of the water would become a problem. Its easier just to drive slower... Yesterday's commute showed that the new radiator hoses and cap probably helped. On the way to work it was cooler than it has been (low 80's instead of mid 90's) and I could run as fast as I wanted (well as fast as a 240D can) with no troubles. On the way home I could run faster than I could before (back in the mid '90s for temp) but still had to ease off to keep the temp in check. I need to go buy a 1 1/6 wrench but today I'll install the oil cooler again. Monday we'll see if it makes that much difference. -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:01:22 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Life without an oil cooler Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpiegiogaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Two questions: Do you have AC and are you using it? 2nd Question, if you do not have working AC do you have the AC aux fan? Put a switch in to permit you to manually turn it on so you have more airflow through the rad. Also a suggestion to make sure that the main rad fan is working correctly. Fluid coupling OK? Another possible answer if you only have issues during really hot times is to put in a simple system to spray some water onto the rad. I think some people have used a windshield washer setup with a pipe accross the top of the rad with small holes drilled in it. Turn on the pump and spray some water onto the rad - should help bring temperatures down somewhat. Drag racers used something like this to cool the engine after a run down the track. I am sure I saw this in a Car Craft mag years back. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
I remember shooting an old battery with a 12 gauge shotgun back when I was a young fellow. It was probably 50 or more feet away from me at the time and pieces of it landed behind me. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's always something... No. The battery that blew on me was from an external spark. the invisible flame went inside the battery. The battery jumped up about a foot to eye level as it blew up in my face. There must have been hydrogen gas and a spark. The hydrogen gas may have been in the battery box from when she was driving the car. The spark came when she tried to start the car. H2 had to be inside the battery, as did the spark. The box was just fine, but the battery case itself was fractured. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Latest adventure - '90 300D - cut tranny cooling hose.
Would it make any difference if you were in the front seat? My hearing is getting to the point where I cannot diagnose vehicle issues like I once did. My son commented on squeaking from my truck a couple of weekends back. Turns out the rear U joint was almost seized. I did not hear the squeaking. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Latest adventure - '90 300D - cut tranny cooling hose. I drove the kids over to a buddy's airport for rides in his Breezy this afternoon - on the way back, the A/C started blowing warm air. I figured that enough R12 had leaked out that the compressor was dis-engaged. We kept driving. half an hour later, the car shifts into 3rd gear on a slight incline (at 75mph), then won't shift back the 4th going down hill. I tell my daughter (who is driving) to pull over at the rest stop/McDonald's, as it was not very far in front of us, thinking that the tranny fluid leak (has been seeping) had gotten away from me, and we need to add more fluid (in the trunk). Open the hood and first thing I see is the serpentine belt is only 1/4in wide (but still in place), and the left side tranny fluid cooling hose is cut clean in two. The kids in the front heard a flapping noise shortly before the tranny sighted down, but I couldn't hear it from the back seat (teaches me to let my kids chauffeur me around the country). Never heard the belt squealing, like an accessory (the A/C compressor?) had seized. The rear of the car is oily, there's a growing puddle under the car, and we're 50 miles from home, on a turnpike. We got it towed home on one of those flatbed wreckers. The wrecker driver commented that Mercedes don't usually break down, what happened?. He does tow a lot of Volvos though --- Anyway, I get to try to figure out why the two year old belt broke in the morning. Fun. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
As far as the self leveling part, I will measure to see if the rear height is correct (19) per Max' advice. Otherwise, the car never sags during periods of rest/disuse. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. Per chance, is the hard side the now slightly used accumulator? That is, the one that was in service along with the used one? Your description exactly fits my experiences with tired accumulators. Two cars, so far. And since neither of them have strut troubles, I have no experience there. Does the self-level part work right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Latest adventure - '90 300D - cut tranny cooling hose.
Good question - perhaps, but then, who knows? On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Would it make any difference if you were in the front seat? My hearing is getting to the point where I cannot diagnose vehicle issues like I once did. My son commented on squeaking from my truck a couple of weekends back. Turns out the rear U joint was almost seized. I did not hear the squeaking. Randy -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI)
Curt. Need another project? He also has a 300TD Cheap. Fred Moir Lynn MA Original Message Subject:1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1837310723.html to contact the person who posted this. 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo Date: 2010-07-11, 2:37PM Solid running 190D non turbo diesel sedan. 177k miles. 30mpg average. -No rust or very little rust. -Needs a new battery. -Needs a new fan clutch. -Needs a windshield. -Needs brakes. You can see photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/27251...@n07/sets/72157624340338753/show/ I also have several Volkswagen Rabbit diesels and a Ford Econoline Van with a rebuilt transmission. * Location: Warwick, RI * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1837310723.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
When I did generator work we used to see battery explosions with some regularity. Here's why: When the electrolyte gets low in the battery (from being constantly charged, as stationary duty batteries are) the tops of the plates get exposed. When a large load is applied to the battery, as in when the engine cranks, there can be a spark or arc across the exposed plates. Since there is most likely some hydrogen present in the cells, this ignites, causing a pretty spectacular explosion that usually rips the top of the battery off. A good reason to be checking the electrolyte levels on a regular basis. I haven't found this to be as much of an issue in automotive applications, probably because the batteries in such an application aren't on a charger 100% of the time like a stationary engine battery is. Dan --- On Mon, 7/12/10, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's always something... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 2:48 PM I remember shooting an old battery with a 12 gauge shotgun back when I was a young fellow. It was probably 50 or more feet away from me at the time and pieces of it landed behind me. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's always something... No. The battery that blew on me was from an external spark. the invisible flame went inside the battery. The battery jumped up about a foot to eye level as it blew up in my face. There must have been hydrogen gas and a spark. The hydrogen gas may have been in the battery box from when she was driving the car. The spark came when she tried to start the car. H2 had to be inside the battery, as did the spark. The box was just fine, but the battery case itself was fractured. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll?
WILTON wrote: then turned our backs on them to kick another certain Bully dictator who tried to kill our Boy's Daddy. I *never* thought I would ever hear a B-52 driver say such things. Interesting to hear you say such seemingly inflammatory things, Wilton. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tunnel roll
Hendrik wrote: In theory F1 cars can drive upside down but then the oil would drain into the heads and... Okay... I'm going out to notice it right now... ...yep - I notice too much turf under the bumpers to be normal driving. Ya gotta tell us what ya did - sounds awesome, dude. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI)
I'll have to run that by Angie, she wants to replace my 240D with an '85 300D, this might change her mind. Wish it was a 5spd... Of course I've still got the 5spd from my 2.2l, its sold but I don't actually have any money yet... -Curt --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:02 PM Curt. Need another project? He also has a 300TD Cheap. Fred Moir Lynn MA Original Message Subject: 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1837310723.html to contact the person who posted this. 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo Date: 2010-07-11, 2:37PM Solid running 190D non turbo diesel sedan. 177k miles. 30mpg average. -No rust or very little rust. -Needs a new battery. -Needs a new fan clutch. -Needs a windshield. -Needs brakes. You can see photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/27251...@n07/sets/72157624340338753/show/ I also have several Volkswagen Rabbit diesels and a Ford Econoline Van with a rebuilt transmission. Location: Warwick, RI it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1837310723.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll?
'Point is, we got into another war without finishing the first one, while giving the real enemy sanctuary. Inflammatory? Me? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll? WILTON wrote: then turned our backs on them to kick another certain Bully dictator who tried to kill our Boy's Daddy. I *never* thought I would ever hear a B-52 driver say such things. Interesting to hear you say such seemingly inflammatory things, Wilton. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler?
1231800065 is this the right oil cooler for my 240D? The guy says its got the right in/out I'm just wondering... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler?
depends on last 6 of VIN it could be a 123 180 03 65 too Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? 1231800065 is this the right oil cooler for my 240D? The guy says its got the right in/out I'm just wondering... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tunnel roll?
WILTON wrote: 'Point is, we got into another war without finishing the first one, while giving the real enemy sanctuary. Inflammatory? Me? Never. And, agreed. I think what we are doing there today is going to cost us much more than lives and dollars. We should craft an exit and take the tail between legs we need to regarding that whole mess. I applaud afghan for its ability - against all super-powers. They be one tough set of terrain and old world ways. And to hear the lines in the news from week to week about how al queda operates - seems there is much to be learned from them, as they seem to elude all sorts of high tech surveillance and capture techniques - I think that is also fundamentally cool. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
Thought about it. That ones an '82 though... AND it'll be a north-east rusted cooler and will surely be hard to get off... I found one online, $65 shipped. I'll call and see if he'll take $50... -Curt Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:20:54 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: 4c3b5d06.1060...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt. Tadmuks? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/12/2010 12:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Yeah it depends on how much $$ for another oil cooler. If I can find one cheap enough (like what I paid for the one I have) I'll do that. If not I think I only need to replace one of the lines which looks like an easy enough job on a 240D. I had the lines done by my Indy but that was just a lack of time on my part thing... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Look again
Oops. Maybe the seller thinks E if for injected and C is for carburetors?.. It's obviously a 250S. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler?
Thanks Boss, VIN is WDBAB23A7DB394832 I've already got a 123 180 03 65 which doesn't fit so I'd guess a 123 180 00 65 is right... -Curt Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:10:56 -0400 From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? Message-ID: ca6d30665b8b4bb69651165451da6...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original depends on last 6 of VIN it could be a 123 180 03 65 too Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? 1231800065 is this the right oil cooler for my 240D? The guy says its got the right in/out I'm just wondering... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and inaccurate, speedometer
So what does it mean if one side is 17 3/4 and the other is 19? This is after standing a day or more. It doesn't change after it reaches these figures, till you start and drive again. Can the base ride valve be bad on only one side? Manfred Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:18:46 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and inaccurate speedometer Also, there is a shade-tree method for determining if your car's rear end height is correct or not. You should find 19 inches measuring from the center of the star in the wheel straight up and over the lip of the fender to the chrome/rubber trim strip. Plus or minus 0.5 inches is probably acceptable. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler?
By VIN it takes the 123 180 03 65 the change is at -110872 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? Thanks Boss, VIN is WDBAB23A7DB394832 I've already got a 123 180 03 65 which doesn't fit so I'd guess a 123 180 00 65 is right... -Curt Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:10:56 -0400 From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? Message-ID: ca6d30665b8b4bb69651165451da6...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original depends on last 6 of VIN it could be a 123 180 03 65 too Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler? 1231800065 is this the right oil cooler for my 240D? The guy says its got the right in/out I'm just wondering... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
When I was in high school some local charity had a sale of retired taxis, all Checkers. They had washed out the insides and did an Earl Scheib paint job on them, I think they were all baby blue and actually looked kinda nice. One of my friend's dad bought one for him, I think paid $100. That thing was awesome, we called it The Bus. He could get at least 10 or 12 kids in it and run them home after school. I think after he went off to college it trickled down to his sister for a couple of years, we came home for some holiday and dad had sold it and bought a new, I think Toyota Corolla, the first year for them. The sales guy sold him on it as being sporty yet economical. We thrashed that thing unmercifully, and it seemed to do pretty well. His sister had it until she went off to school, not sure what happened to it, it might have been thrashed out. Aside -- my friend's dad was a obstetrician, one night he had to go to the hosp at like 3AM, he went out and got in his brand new Lincoln Continental (dark brown, suicide rear doors) and when he slammed the door a bottle of dandelion wine we had made and stored in his garage exploded, showering the new car with glass shards and nasty sticky stuff. He was wicked pissed to be sure. It was lucky we were off at college or he would have killed us. As it was we heard about it several times, I tried not to visit for a year or so when he was around. --R On 7/12/2010 2:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Oh, BTW, did I mention that there's a Checker for sale cheap on the other side of town? If a Checker Marathon weighs what I think it does, he's asking about twice its intrinsic value. http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1822103800.html How come I never see one of those for sale near me? I really want a Marathon to drop a Cummins diesel in. That one looks like it's been lowered, doesn't it? Kind of strange. Or maybe there's something unpleasant wrong with the suspension, like broken springs. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
He said his ride was all the way up, I do believe. But you are right, whenever I have a hard ride, its always the accumulators. Fmiser wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. Per chance, is the hard side the now slightly used accumulator? That is, the one that was in service along with the used one? Your description exactly fits my experiences with tired accumulators. Two cars, so far. And since neither of them have strut troubles, I have no experience there. Does the self-level part work right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2998 - Release Date: 07/12/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this thing?
There is 1231800065 and 1231800365. Those are the 2 different 240D part numbers. Curt Raymond wrote: Whats the part number? Thanks -Curt Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:44:02 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is this thing? Message-ID: sig.2808ee3427.4c3a4932.30...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No, the turbo is different as well. There are 2 different part numbers and both show to fit only 240D Curt Raymond wrote: I *think* but have never proven that I have a VERY late 240D. '83 was the last year anyway but I'm reasonably sure mine is one of the last. So when I look for a used oil cooler (tap tap tap) I should ask for one from a 300D turbo and not a 240D? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2998 - Release Date: 07/12/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this the right oil cooler?
yea, thats the other one so it probably is. Curt Raymond wrote: 1231800065 is this the right oil cooler for my 240D? The guy says its got the right in/out I'm just wondering... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
That little turnbuckle thingie that connects the valve with whatever else under there might be broken too, it has some plastic inserts at each swiveling attachment point, those things break and wear out (like mine did up the street from my house, the car looked like a 65 chebby with air shocks and rode like a log wagon). You ought to check that while you are crawling around under there. --R On 7/12/2010 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: He said his ride was all the way up, I do believe. But you are right, whenever I have a hard ride, its always the accumulators. Fmiser wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. Per chance, is the hard side the now slightly used accumulator? That is, the one that was in service along with the used one? Your description exactly fits my experiences with tired accumulators. Two cars, so far. And since neither of them have strut troubles, I have no experience there. Does the self-level part work right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
I looked at one of those last summer that was at a mech's place up the road, was in great shape but for a bad head gasket. He wanted $800 for it. I vaguely recall the list advising that some cars had bad heads and some had bad rods, if you could produce an offspring of the two you would have a decent ride. There is a 350SDL at a junkyard in Ravenel, was trying to figure if a head transplant off that thing might do the trick. --R On 7/12/2010 9:25 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Add for this 140 rod-bender reads: 300 Mercedes SD - $1500 (charleston) 25 miles. needs some work. Small oil leak. 8433019402 leave message I'm thinking the small oil leak is between ring and cylinder wall(s)? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:05 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $ (Mt.Pleasant) If I wanted to sell my Benz, I would park it in front of a dump to take pics. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838223700.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
Now that would be cool. A Checker with a Cummins. I want one too. Could probably put a 3/4 ton 4X4 chassis under it too. Randy On 7/12/2010 2:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Oh, BTW, did I mention that there's a Checker for sale cheap on the other side of town? If a Checker Marathon weighs what I think it does, he's asking about twice its intrinsic value. http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/1822103800.html How come I never see one of those for sale near me? I really want a Marathon to drop a Cummins diesel in. That one looks like it's been lowered, doesn't it? Kind of strange. Or maybe there's something unpleasant wrong with the suspension, like broken springs. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
I have been noticing lately quite an increase in people with dozens of listings for basically the same thing. There is one seller who has hundreds of the same listing, covering about 15 or more pages (200 per page) that you have to scroll thru to get to all of them. This is an example http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Mercedes-GL500-OBD-Performance-Flash-Chip-/320560561231?cmd=ViewItempt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4aa2e5fc4f With all the stupid rules ebay has come up with, I sure wish they would do something about this sort of thing -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
I was thinking of complaining about this. I was looking at hard drives, and some hoser has listed a 160 GB under EVERY laptop he could think of for the same item. I would be he doesn't have 300 of them, either. Huge pain, I don't have time to wade through that crap (way overpriced) to find what I do want. Gets bad enough I can always stop using eBay, after all! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
A clear indicator of the seller's business ethics; best to avoid. It would be nice if eBay let you set up a personal kill file like the old USENET newsreaders had. If someone annoyed you enough, you just killfile them and its as if they don't exist. Allan Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: I was thinking of complaining about this. I was looking at hard drives, and some hoser has listed a 160 GB under EVERY laptop he could think of for the same item. I would be he doesn't have 300 of them, either. Huge pain, I don't have time to wade through that crap (way overpriced) to find what I do want. Gets bad enough I can always stop using eBay, after all! Peter -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Wrangler w/a 6-speed manual???
Is there such a thing?? Or is he counting reverse as a speed? http://bloomington.craigslist.org/ctd/1835644414.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
Or at least a sort function that allows *NOT* operators! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wrangler w/a 6-speed manual???
Allan Streib wrote: Is there such a thing?? Or is he counting reverse as a speed? http://bloomington.craigslist.org/ctd/1835644414.html Standard Wrangler feature in 2008. Camero/Firebird had it in 1993. http://www.edmunds.com/used/2008/jeep/wrangler/100905381/standard.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
Peter Frederick wrote: Or at least a sort function that allows *NOT* operators! In the search function you can use a - in front of a word. For example, DVD -Bluray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More CL photo pecularities
Are the people in these photos there to make the car more attractive by comparison??? http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1839601622.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is this slow thing?
The way the post was written, implied that MB stopped building the 240D in 83/4. Not sure but I think the 200D was also available in 124 form but the 240D died with the 123 chassis. Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: I am pretty sure the 240D (and 200D) went all the way to the end of the 123 chassis in 85. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 But MBUSA never certified the 240D for sale in USA as a 1984 or 1985 model. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
good to know, I'll use that. I've prefer standard Boolean, but I'll settle for a - sign. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Ooh right, I read your post and thought $800 for a E55 with a stuffed head gasket =-O , you had me going then and almost back on a plane to the US to get myself some of them cheap AMG cars but then I read the rest of the message and realized your talking about S class klatta mobiles :-P Hendrik who wouldn't know what to do with an AMG Rich Thomas wrote: I looked at one of those last summer that was at a mech's place up the road, was in great shape but for a bad head gasket. He wanted $800 for it. I vaguely recall the list advising that some cars had bad heads and some had bad rods, if you could produce an offspring of the two you would have a decent ride. There is a 350SDL at a junkyard in Ravenel, was trying to figure if a head transplant off that thing might do the trick. --R On 7/12/2010 9:25 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's the runner-up. Used industrial plant as back drop. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1838316676.html Add for this 140 rod-bender reads: 300 Mercedes SD - $1500 (charleston) 25 miles. needs some work. Small oil leak. 8433019402 leave message I'm thinking the small oil leak is between ring and cylinder wall(s)? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More CL photo pecularities
They are showing how solid these old things are, you try sitting on a modern car and will most likely end up with a dented bonnet (yes I am speaking Australian again). Hendrik with a reasonably solid 124 Allan Streib wrote: Are the people in these photos there to make the car more attractive by comparison??? http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1839601622.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
Well they are all advertised as being for a different car and why should ebay limit these types of listings? They are in the business of having people list stuff for sale and why does this annoy you so? Are you looking to chip your rides? Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have been noticing lately quite an increase in people with dozens of listings for basically the same thing. There is one seller who has hundreds of the same listing, covering about 15 or more pages (200 per page) that you have to scroll thru to get to all of them. This is an example http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Mercedes-GL500-OBD-Performance-Flash-Chip-/320560561231?cmd=ViewItempt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4aa2e5fc4f With all the stupid rules ebay has come up with, I sure wish they would do something about this sort of thing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 190D non-turbo - $700 (Warwick, RI)
As long as you have the driveshaft from the 5spd car, it's not a hard swap. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll have to run that by Angie, she wants to replace my 240D with an '85 300D, this might change her mind. Wish it was a 5spd... Of course I've still got the 5spd from my 2.2l, its sold but I don't actually have any money yet... -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
The item in question was a 160 GB 2.5 generic hard drive. listed hunderds of times for different computers. It fits them all, it's a generic drive, and it's VERY annoying to have to page a dozen times to see anything else. Fairly obvious they are not paying listing fees, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Hendrik Fay wrote: Ooh right, I read your post and thought $800 for a E55 with a stuffed head gasket =-O , you had me going then and almost back on a plane to the US to get myself some of them cheap AMG cars but then I read the rest of the message and realized your talking about S class klatta mobiles :-P Somebody sold one of the original AMG Hammers for a few thousand about four years ago. It had a wrong engine and was in the process of being rebuilt. The buyer managed to track down a Hammer engine, which just happened to be the very engine that came out of the car, and was restoring it fully. I guess that's more fitting than the car falling into my hands and becoming a diesel. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=91940 http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/shopping/AMG_Hammer/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Hmnnh, perhaps if you cobble together 2 300D engines to make a V12 600D Hammer. Hendrik who is always thinking outside the square Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: Ooh right, I read your post and thought $800 for a E55 with a stuffed head gasket =-O , you had me going then and almost back on a plane to the US to get myself some of them cheap AMG cars but then I read the rest of the message and realized your talking about S class klatta mobiles :-P Somebody sold one of the original AMG Hammers for a few thousand about four years ago. It had a wrong engine and was in the process of being rebuilt. The buyer managed to track down a Hammer engine, which just happened to be the very engine that came out of the car, and was restoring it fully. I guess that's more fitting than the car falling into my hands and becoming a diesel. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=91940 http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/shopping/AMG_Hammer/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: FW: Think you are good with a nail gun?]
Original Message Subject:FW: Think you are good with a nail gun? Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:31:26 -0500 From: Ted Striplin tstrip...@cox.net To: Anita Williams gat...@sbcglobal.net, Crockett, John jmcrocket...@sbcglobal.net, Don Gish polymericp...@att.net, Greg Williams gwilliamsb...@aol.com, Jd Basler jd.bas...@yahoo.com, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net, leagl...@aol.com, Linda Boydston magic4...@aol.com, Marilyn Lewis lewiso...@att.net, SamCleveyandSons samcleveyands...@earthlink.net, sooner0...@aol.com, tara.willi...@okstate.edu, Wayne Haynes w.hayne...@yahoo.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SiDidieravaitunmarteau.wmv Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 4664789 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100712/263128e9/attachment.wmv -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100712/263128e9/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
no, I am just browsing thru parts listings and 15-20 pages of this junk is just annoying. Hendrik Fay wrote: Well they are all advertised as being for a different car and why should ebay limit these types of listings? They are in the business of having people list stuff for sale and why does this annoy you so? Are you looking to chip your rides? Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have been noticing lately quite an increase in people with dozens of listings for basically the same thing. There is one seller who has hundreds of the same listing, covering about 15 or more pages (200 per page) that you have to scroll thru to get to all of them. This is an example http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Mercedes-GL500-OBD-Performance-Flash-Chip-/320560561231?cmd=ViewItempt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4aa2e5fc4f With all the stupid rules ebay has come up with, I sure wish they would do something about this sort of thing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photog of the week -- 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG - $9999 (Mt.Pleasant)
Damn, that would be an awesome torquemonster. And the sweet sound! --R On 7/12/2010 10:53 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Hmnnh, perhaps if you cobble together 2 300D engines to make a V12 600D Hammer. Hendrik who is always thinking outside the square Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: Ooh right, I read your post and thought $800 for a E55 with a stuffed head gasket =-O , you had me going then and almost back on a plane to the US to get myself some of them cheap AMG cars but then I read the rest of the message and realized your talking about S class klatta mobiles :-P Somebody sold one of the original AMG Hammers for a few thousand about four years ago. It had a wrong engine and was in the process of being rebuilt. The buyer managed to track down a Hammer engine, which just happened to be the very engine that came out of the car, and was restoring it fully. I guess that's more fitting than the car falling into my hands and becoming a diesel. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=91940 http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/shopping/AMG_Hammer/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and and inaccurate speedometer
Nothing obviously wrong with the rear valve either. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That little turnbuckle thingie that connects the valve with whatever else under there might be broken too, it has some plastic inserts at each swiveling attachment point, those things break and wear out (like mine did up the street from my house, the car looked like a 65 chebby with air shocks and rode like a log wagon). You ought to check that while you are crawling around under there. --R On 7/12/2010 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: He said his ride was all the way up, I do believe. But you are right, whenever I have a hard ride, its always the accumulators. Fmiser wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I've since replaced that used one with a new one, so the car now has two fresh accumulators. Per chance, is the hard side the now slightly used accumulator? That is, the one that was in service along with the used one? Your description exactly fits my experiences with tired accumulators. Two cars, so far. And since neither of them have strut troubles, I have no experience there. Does the self-level part work right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid ebay sellers
Well I don't think they are breaking any ebay rules, so not much that can be done about em. Guess if you are looking at general car parts listings you are going to come across this sort of thing. The only way to solve that is to narrow your search. Hendrik who went to the u pull it yesterday and found a 300SE to rat parts off Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: no, I am just browsing thru parts listings and 15-20 pages of this junk is just annoying. Hendrik Fay wrote: Well they are all advertised as being for a different car and why should ebay limit these types of listings? They are in the business of having people list stuff for sale and why does this annoy you so? Are you looking to chip your rides? Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have been noticing lately quite an increase in people with dozens of listings for basically the same thing. There is one seller who has hundreds of the same listing, covering about 15 or more pages (200 per page) that you have to scroll thru to get to all of them. This is an example http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Mercedes-GL500-OBD-Performance-Flash-Chip-/320560561231?cmd=ViewItempt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4aa2e5fc4f With all the stupid rules ebay has come up with, I sure wish they would do something about this sort of thing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon with jarring ride and inaccuratespeedometer
Manfred, Is the height difference not present when running? D. Manfred wrote: So what does it mean if one side is 17 3/4 and the other is 19? This is after standing a day or more. It doesn't change after it reaches these figures, till you start and drive again. Can the base ride valve be bad on only one side? Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
