Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
My views are quite mainstream by local standards... but obviously jarring to many on this list (and vice versa). I much prefer to tackle problems of mutual concern we can work on solving together. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:39 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Andrew said... N ot at all! Andrew, you have my best wishes for a speedy recovery!!! Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work hosses. Torquey for vergasser. OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum head Ford V8 have problems with stuck spark plugs. If they can prove the plugs were changed in the last couple of years, I think you'd be OK, just don't leave them in there forever. Long bed short cab work trucks are hard to sell used, everybody wants a back seat to use for a trash dump. An old F-150 with straight six and 5sp wouldn't be bad to have, as long as it isn't rusty. A friend of mine bought one new in '94 and kept it until a leaf spring punched through the bed. 12 years of Michigan road salt and minimal care from the original owner, and the only major problem was rust. Still a good running truck last I heard, he gave it to his daughter's boyfriend who redid the spring mounts and welded a patch in the bed. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
The pudgy middle aged white men that make up the majority of the list membership have politics unique to them. I have found is best not to bring up the subject. :-) -Dave Walton On Jul 9, 2011, at 7:18 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My views are quite mainstream by local standards... but obviously jarring to many on this list (and vice versa). I much prefer to tackle problems of mutual concern we can work on solving together. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:39 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Andrew said... N ot at all! Andrew, you have my best wishes for a speedy recovery!!! Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Network gizmo for Craig?
On Jul 8, 2011 1:44 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Since I run CentOS 5.6, a non-bleeding-edge OS, I'm fairly certain it won't work with my desktop right out of the box. I compiled the ralink drivers (both chipsets, I think 2572 and 3072) on 5.5 so they would work, if you had such an adapter. You have to add the device ID from lsusb to the source for them to detect. Though hopefully you won't be in the situation again. And since my emergency need is past and I now have access to the wireless-to-ethernet adapter from work, I probably won't be buying anything else. That is the way to go. :) I will see if we have a driver that will work with your realtek at work. Glad you all made it through okay. Best, Tim Thanks for thinking of me, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winmutt's clan adds another!
Congratulations! Looks just like you but I think I'd remember that hat. :) -Tim On Jul 8, 2011 2:39 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
andrew strasfogel wrote: My views are quite mainstream by local standards... The locale being Washington, DC. The rest of the country wonders just what's in the water there to make them think that what passes for government is OK. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 8:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work hosses. Torquey for vergasser. OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum head Ford V8 have problems with stuck spark plugs. If they can prove the plugs were changed in the last couple of years, I think you'd be OK, just don't leave them in there forever. Long bed short cab work trucks are hard to sell used, everybody wants a back seat to use for a trash dump. An old F-150 with straight six and 5sp wouldn't be bad to have, as long as it isn't rusty. A friend of mine bought one new in '94 and kept it until a leaf spring punched through the bed. 12 years of Michigan road salt and minimal care from the original owner, and the only major problem was rust. Still a good running truck last I heard, he gave it to his daughter's boyfriend who redid the spring mounts and welded a patch in the bed. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
Really depends on just what you intend it for. If you want to haul a lot of weight get a Ford or Dodge 3/4 or one ton. They do that best. If you want someting that will haul household items, ride nice and get decent mpg then look at a Chevy 1/2 ton with either the 4.3 or 350 if you want more power. If you want a cheap diesel the older ford IDI trucks with the 6.9 or 7.3 are cheap to buy and easy to work on, older Dodges are getting cheaper but they are usually pretty whipped and sold for an engine donor, the Cummins usually outlasts the trucks. The 6.2 Chevy trucks get great mpg but have little for towing power. They are great empty or lightly loaded as you can pull 25mpg out of them going slow. The 6.5 is a lot better for power than the 6.2 but it has some electric components in the fuel system known to be problematic. The Fords get worse mpg but have a lot more power for pulling a trailer. Mike On Jul 8, 2011 8:23 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering joining the local population and buyuing a pickup. I think I have the only drive in the neighborhood (if not the city) without one. The real reason is that one could replace a bunch of rental truck days in our up-coming move to the airpark house 38 miles away. Plus, it could come in handy with a fuel tank and pump in the back, since the airpark does not have a fuel pump and tank. There are several older Chevy and Fords in Craigs List between $1000 and $2500. I'm only looking at long bed, standard cab. Maximum hauling capacity is the primary concern, followed by not needing imediate repairs. Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
How true. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 8:49 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: My views are quite mainstream by local standards... The locale being Washington, DC. The rest of the country wonders just what's in the water there to make them think that what passes for government is OK. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
Michael Canfield wrote: They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Interesting EPA ratings. Looks like the main advantage of the straight 6 is ease of maintenance. 1994 F150: 300 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 5sp 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 5sp 15 city, 18 hwy (huh? 10% worse than auto on the hwy?) 351 auto 13 city, 18 hwy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2 exhaust pipe adapter which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years anyway... Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4 really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust the used ones. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT - Pickups
partial to Diesels, but have been scared off by all the injector pump issues with the US made engines - why didn't they use nice in-line Bosch pumps? 96-98.5 Dodge then, it uses the P7100 inline pump. My 1975 Dodge 1/2 ton was quite reliable. Would always start no matter how long it had sat. The 318 was gutless and fuel-hungry, but the truck rode nice. Very car-like. Sucked for heavy work, though, the time we towed home a tractor from the rental place nearly killed it going up the hill. I thought we were going to have to unload the tractor to get it up there. Was 2wd, auto, long cab, short bed, turd brown. Was everything I don't like in a truck, but was available from a friend and inexpensive. But I needed 4wd, so away it went. Replaced by 1974 Chevy heavy 1/2T. With 350, stickshift, 4wd, short cab, long bed. Much more suitable for a utility vehicle, for me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the rubber hangers and swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back of the car. The torque on that length of pipe is huge. Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold. But this is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the manifold and exhaust pipe. Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary. Jaime On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2 exhaust pipe adapter which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years anyway... Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4 really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust the used ones. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT - Pickups
While the dump bed might be nice once in a while, I think a pickup bed will be better suited to our needs. Having key would also be nice. Th eother one does look interesting though. Thanks. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: but have been scared off by all the injector pump issues with the US made engines - why didn't they use nice in-line Bosch pumps? Trucks are cheaper where you are, so Bosch inline pumps and/or Ford Powerstrokes might be in range. Does it have to be a pickup? http://oklahomacity.**craigslist.org/cto/2435828583.**htmlhttp://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2435828583.html http://oklahomacity.**craigslist.org/cto/2410952921.**htmlhttp://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2410952921.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
Now take off the 25% or so that they don't really get and you might as well have a 350 Chevy that has some power when you need it. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 9:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Michael Canfield wrote: They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Interesting EPA ratings. Looks like the main advantage of the straight 6 is ease of maintenance. 1994 F150: 300 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 5sp 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 auto 15 city, 20 hwy. 302 5sp 15 city, 18 hwy (huh? 10% worse than auto on the hwy?) 351 auto 13 city, 18 hwy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A good 240D day
Got the exhaust into my '78 240D, reused all 4 rubber donuts, they were in really good shape, first time I've ever seen such a thing. I'll throw one of my spares in the trunk for the inevitable failure. Had to cut down the pipe on the car a little, my new adapter didn't fit over it as far as the old one and the exhaust stuck out from under the car, no big deal. Then I figured as long as the welder was out I might as well patch one of a few rust holes this car developed last winter. I'm taking a week in September for bodywork but the more I do now the less I need to do later. I used a piece of an old computer case, used microwaves being in short supply here. The computer case metal worked out great as its thick and dense and therefore easy to weld. I didn't cut back or clean up enough on the car though so the welds are nasty, lots of fill work. Still once I slathered some rubberized undercoating on you really can't tell. Anyway bringing my $1500 car back to being a $1500 car. Next step is to put in a Rusty order, with working AC it might be more than a $1500 car. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 17 OM603 head vs camshaft, injectors
Thanks, good to know. I used my #14 head as a stand to hold the camshaft from the #17, cleaned off the corrosion using PB Blaster and a brass brush. It cleaned up nicely, so I'll use it when I install the #17 head. I'll keep all the lifters from the #14 head (and the camshaft) just in case. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: When I installed the #22 head in my SDL, I could NOT fit the #14 camshaft on the #22 head. Tightening the cam bolts down would lock the cam in place. When tightened, the #22 cam would spin as it should. Luther KB5QHU Oak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 6/29/2011 6:21 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I am guessing the cams are interchangeable. You will have to measure the bearing diameters to be sure. Since the cap of the hydraulic comp. rotates, I don't think you have to keep the shaft matched to the hyd. comp. As for the rust. The answer to that question is a visual inspection. polish the cam lobes. if it is still rough, it will likely wear the hyd. comp. and the cam lobe. If it is smooth enough so that the oil will provide a cushion for the surfaces as designed, then the cam is ok. I would guess the FSM or another document will show what the difference is between the 2 cams. It could just be a different manufacturer, or process, with the same dimensions. Further reading of the FSM says keep the lifters in their original holes, unless replacing. OK - can do, I marked them as I pulled them out. No one has an opinion on the camshaft question? I guessing that I need to keep the #11 with the #17 head, but I'm going to have to deal with that corrosion. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:08 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 17 OM603 head vs camshaft, injectors No rocker arms here, hydraulic compensators. Cams on the camshaft push directly on the hydraulic compensators (aka lifters). Do I need to keep the lifters with their head, and in the original hole? I'm not planning on doing that. One of the lifters from the new head looks very new compared to the others, surprise surprise it was installed at #1 cylinder. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 17 OM603 head vs camshaft, injectors Max Dillon wrote: new #17 head came with a #11 camshaft, old #14 head a #7 camshaft. Can I use the #7 with the new head? Should probably keep the rocker arms with their respective cam lobes. Mitch. _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT - Pickups
The malaise era was especially hard on Dodge pickups. My '96 Dakota w/318 had buckets of power, I think it was rate ~200hp. When I was in jr high a friend's parents bought a Dodge pickup, it'd have been around '88, figure a year or two either way. 2wd, 4spd manual, rubber floor mat, vinyl seat, AM radio, 6cyl (I can't recall if it was a v6 or I6), so your basic farm truck. Thing had nothing for power really but it was geared to the basement and had a granny low first gear which meant when you drove you mostly started in second. It was a great truck for hauling hay as you could idle it down in first leap out, grab a bale, toss it into the bed, jump back in, shift into second, roll to the next bale, gear back down into first and repeat. With 2 guys you could fill the truck super quick. Oh and how we did fill it, that was a regular cab long bed and we'd stack the hay 5 feet over the roof of the cab and the springs would bottom out as we eased it back onto the pavement for the short hop to their farm. If I needed a truck for hauling weight and didn't worry about speed thats what I'd get. -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:43:30 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT - Pickups Message-ID: 31f683ff-aa42-11e0-80e9-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed partial to Diesels, but have been scared off by all the injector pump issues with the US made engines - why didn't they use nice in-line Bosch pumps? 96-98.5 Dodge then, it uses the P7100 inline pump. My 1975 Dodge 1/2 ton was quite reliable. Would always start no matter how long it had sat. The 318 was gutless and fuel-hungry, but the truck rode nice. Very car-like. Sucked for heavy work, though, the time we towed home a tractor from the rental place nearly killed it going up the hill. I thought we were going to have to unload the tractor to get it up there. Was 2wd, auto, long cab, short bed, turd brown. Was everything I don't like in a truck, but was available from a friend and inexpensive. But I needed 4wd, so away it went. Replaced by 1974 Chevy heavy 1/2T. With 350, stickshift, 4wd, short cab, long bed. Much more suitable for a utility vehicle, for me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust... On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a banana. Then drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun! -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga Message-ID: cacy-ba+fsqntd5ythmenfhm1bb5ofugdjfkufg9rhczo7fm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the rubber hangers and swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back of the car. The torque on that length of pipe is huge. Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold. But this is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the manifold and exhaust pipe. Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary. Jaime On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2 exhaust pipe adapter which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years anyway... Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4 really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust the used ones. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
Oh man. Each time I do an exhaust system, I say I'm never going to do it again and I'd rather just pay someone. But somehow, I just keep doing them. Jaime On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust... On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a banana. Then drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun! -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga Message-ID: cacy-ba+fsqntd5ythmenfhm1bb5ofugdjfkufg9rhczo7fm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the rubber hangers and swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back of the car. The torque on that length of pipe is huge. Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold. But this is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the manifold and exhaust pipe. Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary. Jaime On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2 exhaust pipe adapter which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years anyway... Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4 really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust the used ones. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 99 E300 diesel?
This just popped up locally. Thoughts on price? Are these the ones where the spring perches rust out? What other common problems? Allan http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2485809907.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 99 E300 diesel?
Allan Streib wrote: This just popped up locally. Thoughts on price? Are these the ones where the spring perches rust out? What other common problems? They magnetically attract Chevy Impalas in grocery parking lots? (at least the silver W210s do) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of many cars and parts
Luther wrote: I need an axle for my SDL. You wanna deliver it for me? :) You gonna join us at Gene n Jude's Monday? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
Let's not be stupid and paint these debates so black and white. It is not black and white. It literally is the power making money pushing both black and white around. They love to see the squabble between black and white - it is all their plan, as they did our indoctrination. We all went to school, eh? Anyone here do private school, ever? They have that curriculum wrapped up also. Don't believe all the conspiracy out there, but there is something in the water all over the world and we are all dancing right with the music. Be afraid, be very afraid. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Congress in Session
Which is precisely WHY we have to throw all the rats out, close down federal agencies and watch all the vermin who never had a real job in their life scramble. Time for all the washington politicians and bureaucrats to pull their heads out of where the sun don't shine and get a breath of reality and fresh air. Time for we the people to take back OUR country! andrew sez My views are quite mainstream by local standards... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Pickups
Ja, no argument. all peecups are fuel sucking pigs. They are also gas sucking pigs for the amount of power they have. Mike On Jul 9, 2011 8:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: the 240 and 300 frod six cyl inline engines are work hosses. Not particularly long lasting, but work hosses. Torquey for vergasser. OK Don wrote: Any engines, trannys, models, years, etc., to avoid, or look for specifically? Some years of aluminum head Ford V8 have problems with stuck spark plugs. If they can prove the plugs were changed in the last couple of years, I think you'd be OK, just don't leave them in there forever. Long bed short cab work trucks are hard to sell used, everybody wants a back seat to use for a trash dump. An old F-150 with straight six and 5sp wouldn't be bad to have, as long as it isn't rusty. A friend of mine bought one new in '94 and kept it until a leaf spring punched through the bed. 12 years of Michigan road salt and minimal care from the original owner, and the only major problem was rust. Still a good running truck last I heard, he gave it to his daughter's boyfriend who redid the spring mounts and welded a patch in the bed. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free 123 seats
I have tons of 123 seats that are in perfect condition I am about to load up in the next car I haul to the crusher. On 7/8/2011 8:21 AM, Dieselhead wrote: i am going to be replacing the seats and door panels in my 81 240D in the next 10 days or so. The seats and door liners I take out are free to anyone who can pick them up or pay freight. Seats are tan leather. The leather is disintegrating, and the pads on the driver seat are gone, but were bolstered by some new foam a few years ago. The driver seat had a new spring at the time I put new foam in. Door panels are good. The replacement interior is I think what is called tobacco brown (medium brown), so I am swapping out the door liners too. Speak up or they will make like the Lone Ranger (William Tell Overture) and go to da dump. email me off list if you want to rescue these seats. As with the 124 seat, they are yours for picking up or paying the freight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3750 - Release Date: 07/07/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free 123 seats
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:26:43 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have tons of 123 seats that are in perfect condition I am about to load up in the next car I haul to the crusher. How about 123 sun visors and front fenders? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
I haven't, have to deal with selfish neighbour attitude but I will when I get a chance, so therefore reserve the right o comment on this subject at a later date but you all know that I am always civil. Hendrik who hates bureaucrazy Allan Streib wrote: Not to speak for Kaleb but IMO it's probably gone as far as it should on this list. I think everyone has said his piece and it's stayed reasonably civil. Could continue on the Banned list if you really want to. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
and altered the test results, knowing that one day that would be useful? Hendrik who is being cheeky to his elders WILTON wrote: BTW - an interesting little aside, well, to me, anyway: I spent a night at the site of the Greenland ice coring project by the National Science Foundation in July, 1978. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free 123 seats
Come on down I will fix you up Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:26:43 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have tons of 123 seats that are in perfect condition I am about to load up in the next car I haul to the crusher. How about 123 sun visors and front fenders? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
'Actually there for 2 days and a night; no, I didn't alter anything; and, no, I didn't pee on a core or into the hole - ice core hoe, that is. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies and altered the test results, knowing that one day that would be useful? Hendrik who is being cheeky to his elders WILTON wrote: BTW - an interesting little aside, well, to me, anyway: I spent a night at the site of the Greenland ice coring project by the National Science Foundation in July, 1978. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boring for??
...BTW - an interesting little aside, well, to me, anyway: I spent a night at the site of the Greenland ice coring project by the National Science Foundation in July, 1978... Were they looking for another B-29? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 99 E300 diesel?
So it seems this is one that could have the rust issues... what I read about this is that you can't really tell if there is a rust problem without scraping off the body panel sealant that's used over the welds. Is the problem common enough to warrant doing that? There are actually two W210s here for sale for about this price, this one and an E320 4matic wagon. Both are tempting in different ways. Allan Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: This just popped up locally. Thoughts on price? Are these the ones where the spring perches rust out? What other common problems? Allan http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2485809907.html -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
