Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
Yabbut these are not places you'll be eating at on a nightly basis. I could say the same about Boston as well - Legal's, Faneuil Hall, etc. BTW, did you get to meet my buddy, Chris? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Curt wrote: For the Chi-Town resident listers I didn't get to meet I'll catch you next time, this was a super quick trip. I didn't even take time off from work, rolled into Chicago, worked from my friend's apartment all day, interviewed Friday, did a little sight-seeing Saturday and home Saturday afternoon... Food? Food, man. Chicago is nothing if not food. What food did you do while here? Hot dogs - Gene Jude's Pizza - Malnati Plus all the other downtown stuff, hole in the walls with character. Chicago is food, dude. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
Don't recall Winnepeg, as I was only there once and it was in the dead of winter, but been to Vancouver many times and it was definitely a very well kept place. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Winnipeg and Vancouver B.C. are the cleanest cities I have seen. I do think Chicago has improved over the past 30 years, or at least not gotten worse. Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Its a very clean city, or at least it was where we were in the west loop and down to Navy Pier. In Boston even a tourist area like Navy Pier would never been cleaned and I don't think there are any urban areas as clean as the west loop. I also made my friend go on the subway which she doesn't normally do but again I wanted to know what it'd be like. Much cleaner than the T in Boston. Funny when I was living there people always remarked about how clean a city it was. I guess all the patronage job olders in Streets and San must actually get some work done Personally I always thought it was pretty filthy but I guess I don't have a lot to compare it to. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
Come to Boston, nothing ever gets cleaned in Boston... Add to that a seaside city at low tide. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:19:29 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup Message-ID: m1ehyhkajy@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Its a very clean city, or at least it was where we were in the west loop and down to Navy Pier. In Boston even a tourist area like Navy Pier would never been cleaned and I don't think there are any urban areas as clean as the west loop. I also made my friend go on the subway which she doesn't normally do but again I wanted to know what it'd be like. Much cleaner than the T in Boston. Funny when I was living there people always remarked about how clean a city it was. I guess all the patronage job olders in Streets and San must actually get some work done Personally I always thought it was pretty filthy but I guess I don't have a lot to compare it to. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
Oh, right. Well lessee, Giordanos Pizza, a Greek place I can't remember the name of, my friends live on the edge of GreekTown. Butterfly Thai (Crazy Spicy Noodles), Heaven on Seven (had the Hot as a Mutha) and finally ended up at the Twisted Spoke. Saturday was Lou Mitchell's for breakfast. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:44:51 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup Message-ID: CALk3cy6FFf92HidBeEM6W6h-g8g9SkQPeREjJz=zv-usdod...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: For the Chi-Town resident listers I didn't get to meet I'll catch you next time, this was a super quick trip. I didn't even take time off from work, rolled into Chicago, worked from my friend's apartment all day, interviewed Friday, did a little sight-seeing Saturday and home Saturday afternoon... Food? Food, man. Chicago is nothing if not food. What food did you do while here? Hot dogs - Gene Jude's Pizza - Malnati Plus all the other downtown stuff, hole in the walls with character. Chicago is food, dude. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
Maybe, its hard to remember, you meet so many people... I didn't see Rosie, my back was turned when she cruised past, but I heard her. -Curt Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:04:26 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup Message-ID: ee6b8bfb-d508-4d4e-b6d1-666723b47...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Yabbut these are not places you'll be eating at on a nightly basis. I could say the same about Boston as well - Legal's, Faneuil Hall, etc. BTW, did you get to meet my buddy, Chris? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OH Boy I'm Rich!
Their all loosers --R On 10/13/11 1:44 AM, Barry Stark wrote: -Original Message- From: Lotto [mailto:patricia.berkan...@yale.edu] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:40 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Lotto Sweepstakes. Your email have won $2Million From Lotto Sweepstakes. I got this E-mail on Monday. Hope this isn't typical of the skill level of an English major at Yale. Well, to tell the truth this is the E-mail address that it was directed to respond back to. cleaims1...@taleltly.nets.hk Is that Hong Kong? Barry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
Fell asleep early last night so I guess I'll have to do the short form: Using the +12VDC system, it's a fairly simple thing to do. Two fuel sources, one primary, one secondary or backup. Low pressure switch on primary source. +12VDC on relay coil, with the ground path going through the normally open low pressure switch. Relay controls which fuel solenoid (both of which are also +12VDC devices) is energized by the generator controls. Relay is normally powered off, with NC contacts providing a path to the primary fuel source solenoid. This means that the engine controls will send out a +12VDC signal any time it is cranking or running to energize the fuel solenoid that is selected by the relay. When the pressure drops below a specified amount on the primary due to loss of fuel, the low pressure switch closes. This completes a path to ground for the relay coil, energizing the relay and changing the state of the contacts. The NC contacts providing power to the primary fuel supply solenoid now open, de-energizing it, and a set of NO contacts close, providing power to the secondary fuel supply solenoid, allowing fuel from the secondary source to flow. With a Y in the fuel system piping downstream of the solenoid valves, either fuel source flows into the engine and it continues to run. This is a very simple system, and is used with many dual fuel units that run on NG and LP. It's also failsafe in that if any component fails, you still have one fuel source connected and ready to go. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Actually, you can do what is known as automatic changeover with a simple relay, a pressure switch and another solenoid valve. Hmm. An electric relay and an electric solenoid... How does that work when the electricity is missing? A UPS for the generator system? Or is this one of those big systems with an generator that has an electric starter so there would have to be a battery anyway. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
On 12/10/2011 5:44 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Actually, you can do what is known as automatic changeover with a simple relay, a pressure switch and another solenoid valve. Hmm. An electric relay and an electric solenoid... How does that work when the electricity is missing? A UPS for the generator system? Or is this one of those big systems with an generator that has an electric starter so there would have to be a battery anyway. -- Philip Nothing much is going to be automatic without some form of starting mechanism. My old and inexpensive generator has electric start and some form of relay setup that knows when the power goes off. That then triggers the start motor to get the unit up and running - at least in theory. It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
The world of a backup generator is not a perfect world. Thus backup is the operative word and survival is it's friend. Those of you who are expecting to run 24/7 will be unpleasantly awakened to empty fuel tanks [what ever fuel of choice is] in a real disaster where power is off for days and roads are blocked for what ever reason for re-supply. You will improve your survival by becoming a power nazi and limiting run times to what is needed to preserve cold food [yes refrigerators only need to run until cold and you can live without a constant flow of ice cubes] , run heater blowers, and bare essentials. If your home only has electrical heat, plan for another heat source along with the backup generator as a package deal. Making the mind shift from social grid dependent to independent requires advance thought and effort. SHMBO suddenly will find her world of flip a switch and it works is not available [usually a problem]. Just some thoughts. Grant AZ On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup
http://www.businessinsider.com/rosie-odonnell-oprah-network-ratings-2011-10 --R On 10/13/11 8:57 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe, its hard to remember, you meet so many people... I didn't see Rosie, my back was turned when she cruised past, but I heard her. -Curt Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:04:26 -0400 From: Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup Message-ID:ee6b8bfb-d508-4d4e-b6d1-666723b47...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Yabbut these are not places you'll be eating at on a nightly basis. I could say the same about Boston as well - Legal's, Faneuil Hall, etc. BTW, did you get to meet my buddy, Chris? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
Block heaters are thermostatically controlled, and are typically set to maintain a water jacket temperature of approximately 110F-125F at ambient. As one might expect, the lower the ambient temps the longer the duty cycle. A lot depends on the enclosure as well. Block heaters on standby generators are expected to be running at all times. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
On 13/10/2011 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Block heaters are thermostatically controlled, and are typically set to maintain a water jacket temperature of approximately 110F-125F at ambient. As one might expect, the lower the ambient temps the longer the duty cycle. A lot depends on the enclosure as well. Block heaters on standby generators are expected to be running at all times. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy The one I have is small and attached to the outside of the engine block. This old Wisconsin engine is air cooled so no water jacket to immerse an element in. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: mercedes benz 87 wagon - $1500 (waterbury)
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:mercedes benz 87 wagon - $1500 (waterbury) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/2645045508.html to contact the person who posted this. mercedes benz 87 wagon Date: 2011-10-11, 8:47PM runs good ,cant even tell its a deisel its got a gold color and saves on gas come check her out * Location: waterbury * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/2645045508.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xNzQwNjE3NMC2-RA2lE0mILdXdrKOH4OgVd_eJaF7QnfbDNogf_9593nubdK-4O2tNdxtjCJWhA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 Mercedes 300 TD - $500 (Saugerties)
NOT a wagon, nor mine, either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:1985 Mercedes 300 TD - $500 (Saugerties) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2647385475.html to contact the person who posted this. 1985 Mercedes 300 TD Date: 2011-10-13, 9:42AM Mercedes 300 Turbo Diesel, engine runs, blown transmission, some rust, parts car or fix $500 firm 845-246-2097 * Location: Saugerties * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2647385475.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18zOTg3Mzk4N_C6dwAP0dctbZxRN0LYhgEOSZcj3HGsXURTxIHnFf4QiLMf2w4590Wb-TWGLYHyfQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300 D 1986 - $500 (Craftsbury)
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:Mercedes 300 D 1986 - $500 (Craftsbury) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2645114005.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes 300 D 1986 Date: 2011-10-11, 9:35PM '86 Mercedes 300 D Turbo Diesel - has been sitting several years. Put a battery in it a few weeks ago and it started. Rumor has it the transmission's blown (but never officially diagnosed). Automatic. Electric everything. Sun roof. Pulled a bone-headed move and backed a tractor into it yesterday - smashed out the back window. Didn't hit any body parts and edge of window seems to be undamaged. Cleaning up the farm - needs to go. $500/offer Andrew 801-448-3757 or email * Location: Craftsbury * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2645114005.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18yODY4Mjg2OJpEZ9dwttN4kynJeV3eXmeZLxk9lcNBVsveAyj-7U87wEHUYuREbJHdZTwpRvO0-w ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
You have one of the old magnetic oil pan heaters. These are intended to be placed on the oil pan and be left on at all times. They are very low wattage, like 80 watts or thereabouts. The intent is to keep the oil viscous at low temperatures. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Block heaters are thermostatically controlled, and are typically set to maintain a water jacket temperature of approximately 110F-125F at ambient. As one might expect, the lower the ambient temps the longer the duty cycle. A lot depends on the enclosure as well. Block heaters on standby generators are expected to be running at all times. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy The one I have is small and attached to the outside of the engine block. This old Wisconsin engine is air cooled so no water jacket to immerse an element in. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
On 13/10/2011 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You have one of the old magnetic oil pan heaters. These are intended to be placed on the oil pan and be left on at all times. They are very low wattage, like 80 watts or thereabouts. The intent is to keep the oil viscous at low temperatures. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Block heaters are thermostatically controlled, and are typically set to maintain a water jacket temperature of approximately 110F-125F at ambient. As one might expect, the lower the ambient temps the longer the duty cycle. A lot depends on the enclosure as well. Block heaters on standby generators are expected to be running at all times. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy The one I have is small and attached to the outside of the engine block. This old Wisconsin engine is air cooled so no water jacket to immerse an element in. Randy I don't think this one is magnetic. It is bolted to the side of the engine case. It does appear to be small and likely of minimal wattage. I have not tested it to see if it works either. I think you said at one point that the enclosure is important too. That is no doubt true. If insulated, it could be heated with a lightbulb. We used to do that out at the lake years ago. The pumphouse and the crawl space under the cottage were heated by nothing more than light bulbs. Does not take a whole lot to warm things a bit. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. If it's running all the time, it can be smaller 'cause it has days and days to build up heat. Or maybe put it on a thermostat. Keep the block above 0 deg C. Then it might run only half the time. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 Mercedes 300 TD - $500 (Saugerties)
Well I came upon a child of Benz, He was sitting along the road... And I asked him, Tell where are you sitting? This he told me Said, I'm sitting down on Yasgur's Farm, Gonna join in a rock and roll band. --R On 10/13/11 3:16 PM, Fred Moir wrote: NOT a wagon, nor mine, either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject: 1985 Mercedes 300 TD - $500 (Saugerties) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2647385475.html to contact the person who posted this. 1985 Mercedes 300 TD Date: 2011-10-13, 9:42AM Mercedes 300 Turbo Diesel, engine runs, blown transmission, some rust, parts car or fix $500 firm 845-246-2097 * Location: Saugerties * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2647385475.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18zOTg3Mzk4N_C6dwAP0dctbZxRN0LYhgEOSZcj3HGsXURTxIHnFf4QiLMf2w4590Wb-TWGLYHyfQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
On Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:54 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: If it's running all the time, it can be smaller 'cause it has days and days to build up heat. Or maybe put it on a thermostat. Keep the block above 0 deg C. Then it might run only half the time. Might effective to have something like a torpedo heater available to blow hot air into the generator enclosure for 10 minutes, then fire it up. Not suitable when near-instant starts are needed, but probably OK in many cases. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: mercedes benz 87 wagon - $1500 (waterbury)
On 13/10/2011 2:16 PM, Fred Moir wrote: Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject: mercedes benz 87 wagon - $1500 (waterbury) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/2645045508.html to contact the person who posted this. mercedes benz 87 wagon Date: 2011-10-11, 8:47PM runs good ,cant even tell its a deisel its got a gold color and saves on gas come check her out Well, jeepers, if you cannot even tell it is a Diesel, who would want it? Randy * Location: waterbury * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/2645045508.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xNzQwNjE3NMC2-RA2lE0mILdXdrKOH4OgVd_eJaF7QnfbDNogf_9593nubdK-4O2tNdxtjCJWhA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300TD WVO
This guy seems to be fairly straight about his car http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2646704174.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] monovalve captive nut
While replacing all the heater hoses on my '84 300D I dropped one of the captive nuts which normally resides underneath the bracket for the monovalve on/near the firewall and am hoping someone on the list may have a spare they are willing to part with. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] monovalve captive nut
Surely you can find something suitable at the hardware store?? Metric, stainless even, should be maybe $1.00 Allan On Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:32 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: While replacing all the heater hoses on my '84 300D I dropped one of the captive nuts which normally resides underneath the bracket for the monovalve on/near the firewall and am hoping someone on the list may have a spare they are willing to part with. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] monovalve captive nut
Have you fished around in the area where it may have come to rest with a magnet. Wilton - Original Message - From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] monovalve captive nut While replacing all the heater hoses on my '84 300D I dropped one of the captive nuts which normally resides underneath the bracket for the monovalve on/near the firewall and am hoping someone on the list may have a spare they are willing to part with. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
Allan Streib wrote: Might effective to have something like a torpedo heater available to blow hot air into the generator enclosure for 10 minutes, then fire it up. Not suitable when near-instant starts are needed, but probably OK in many cases. Run the torpedo/salamander on a battery/inverter? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Bio-fueled towns in Vaterland
Interesting article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576315382880283672.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] chicago CL low mile '94 e320 $2700
Hey Dan, does your kid want to come back up north for a car? http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2648250774.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD WVO
On 13/10/2011 3:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote: This guy seems to be fairly straight about his car http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2646704174.html One could remove and sell the WVO kit but one would NEVER get the smell of frenchfries out of that interior. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD WVO
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 3:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote: This guy seems to be fairly straight about his car http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2646704174.html One could remove and sell the WVO kit but one would NEVER get the smell of frenchfries out of that interior. I can think of much worse smells to be permanently stuck with in a car! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Euro 300TD
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2641227857.html Why would an SLS car need the vacuum-adjustable headlights? For when you put two tons of newspapers in the back like Kleb, maybe? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro 300TD
Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2641227857.html Why would an SLS car need the vacuum-adjustable headlights? For when you put two tons of newspapers in the back like Kleb, maybe? I think the euro towing package for sedans included adjustable headlights and SLS. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator
I have two thermostat switch for heaters that I found at an aircraft supply outfit. One turns on at 35F, the other at 20F. It's called a Thermo Cube. I intended to use one for the '76 OM617 running 20w-50 oil, then I discovered the OM603 and Mobil 1, so never had to use them. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Block heaters are thermostatically controlled, and are typically set to maintain a water jacket temperature of approximately 110F-125F at ambient. As one might expect, the lower the ambient temps the longer the duty cycle. A lot depends on the enclosure as well. Block heaters on standby generators are expected to be running at all times. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: It even has a block heater so that the engine has a chance to start in the cold weather. Since you don't know when you'll want to start it, the block heater runs all winter? A modest 200w block heater would use about 5kWh a day. More likely, one would turn the block heater on if the weather forecast was for a major blizzard, in cold weather, and then turn it back off, when the storm had passed by. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro 300TD
It sure looks nice. It is droolworthy. Now if it had a 5 speed But I don't need any more veehicles http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2641227857.html Why would an SLS car need the vacuum-adjustable headlights? For when you put two tons of newspapers in the back like Kleb, maybe? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
'Sent it to you a few minutes ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Congratulations! if you can, start spraying/coating the high pressure line nuts at the accumulators with penetrating oil of your choice, NOW. If they cause a problem, the line rusts to the nut. Nut to accumulator is generally not a problem, but coat the threads anyway. 1. release hydraulic pressure at the valve 2. loosen/remove the high pressure lines. 3. remove 2 bolts (each) inside that hold the accumulators in place 4. bolt new accumulators to the chassis 5. install/tighten the high pressure lines 6. be sure the valve linkage is hooked up again The system is self-bleeding, or there is a simple procedure to load and unload the car to bleed the system faster. I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
