Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

2012-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Euro tire is still alive and well... in fact, my office is less than a mile from them. That's where I get all my tire and alignment stuff done. Jaime On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: For 14 snow tires, I've had great luck with Vredestein tires. Their

Re: [MBZ] Yeppers

2012-01-05 Thread Fred Moir
Quebecois also use it. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/5/2012 12:23 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Mitch sez: Yeppers. That is unique to WI and the UP (youpers) as far as I know. Might be common in the traverse city/North MI area too, but I don't go there. You get the youpers yeppers!

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Larry
I was sorry to see B Bachman drop out. I had been undecided for a while but started to see her as my choice for Pres.IMO she was the best for the job... Darn - now she's out I don't understand why anyone would make such a decision on the small potatoes of Awa? Maybe that was a

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Pretty good article: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM603 Interesting, but I have a problem with this part, considering that the bent rod causes the worn bore which causes the oil consumption: If one catches the problem before it has progressed too far

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Larry wrote: I was sorry to see B Bachman drop out. I had been undecided for a while but started to see her as my choice for Pres.IMO she was the best for the job... Darn - now she's out I don't understand why anyone would make such a decision on the small potatoes of Awa? Maybe

Re: [MBZ] Way OT, will the USA survive?

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Lunatics like Mitt, Ron, and Newt? On 1/4/12, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes. It always does -- we are just suffering from an excess of lunatics getting free press time at the moment. Peter On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I got an e-mail today with the

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Huntsman moves to the right every day he remains in the race, disavowing his previous moderate positions. How is that better than what Romney is doing? On 1/5/12, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Larry wrote: I was sorry to see B Bachman drop out. I had been undecided for a while but

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Max
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Pretty good article: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM603 Yes, thanks for sharing. The motor-mount / windage tray problem is new to me. Anyone know what a windage tray is? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] unconvinced, apparently

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Canfield
Summer tires? Not really any more. You get all season or snow and ice around here. Even the avarage all season tires work fair in the snow. Mike On Jan 4, 2012 11:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: My tires have good tread depth but obviously were next to useless on that. Are winter

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
A windage tray keeps fluids from flying about as they are churned up by moving parts. In this case I would guess some sort of baffle in the crankcase to keep oil more or less in place, or at least not in more places than it should be. My dogs need windage trays to keep their windage from

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD starts and dies

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Canfield
Ok Homer, but what happened when you tried starting the car as I suggested? Mike On Jan 4, 2012 10:55 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: All I can say is.. D'OH! On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I remember a failure too. This could

Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting. I would like to know what depressing the pedal 3 times does. Mike On Jan 5, 2012 12:21 AM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi Andrew! Allan *did* specify that he released the foot pedal after setting the hand idle and before starting. have you

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Dieselhead
Huntsman was never a viable candidate. Huntsman is a sideshow/joke. Huntsman moves to the right every day he remains in the race, disavowing his previous moderate positions. How is that better than what Romney is doing? On 1/5/12, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Larry wrote: I was

Re: [MBZ] Yeppers

2012-01-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Yeppers. That is unique to WI and the UP (youpers) as far as I know. Might be common in the traverse city/North MI area too, but I don't go there. Oddly, my wife just used it last night. An ID/WA girl, though did go to gradual school in OH. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Way OT, will the USA survive?

2012-01-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Lunatics like Mitt, Ron, and Newt? I'm sure they do, as they're looking at them primarily for their entertainment value. The kookier the better, too, as that would make them unlikely to win! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Way OT, will the USA survive?

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Canfield
Lunatics like all career politicians. Vote out the incumbents! No more career criminals running the Ministry of Untruth! Mike On Jan 5, 2012 10:01 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Lunatics like Mitt, Ron, and Newt? On 1/4/12, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Canfield
Not sure if Green Diamond is still in business. They made a nice snow tire embedded with, I believe, carbon crystals in the rubber to aid traction on ice. Much quieter than studs and just as good on ice. Better on dry pavement. Nokian and Blizzak were always my favorites. The Winterforce

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD starts and dies

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Suggested priming the pump?? As reported several times, when I tried this fuel spilled everywhere and it did NOT affect the starting success. I've ordered a new modern primer pump that's on its way from Rusty. On 1/5/12, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Ok Homer, but what happened

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
What sort of dogs? If I had to guess I would peg you for a brace of Pekingese. On 1/5/12, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A windage tray keeps fluids from flying about as they are churned up by moving parts. In this case I would guess some sort of baffle in the

Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
It satisfies the inner need for reassurance that what you're doing actually makes a difference. I still maintain that a PROPERLY functioning (tuned) OM617 diesel engine only needs to be glowed in order to start flawlessly. If it's way below zero the same rule applies if the car has a block

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
How can the others be RINOs when Huntsman is the one who has held the most centrist views of the lot? That alone should has apparently ruled him out of consideration for the vast majority of R primary voters. BTW, what does a non-RINO believe in? On 1/5/12, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update

2012-01-05 Thread ernest breakfield
i recall reading that it helped ensure that the extensive accelerator linkage these things have was loosened up. (my guess is that it's because it's most likely that at temps below 0ºF the lube wasn't going to be flowing optimally.) cheers! e On 05/Jan/12 07:25, Michael Canfield wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Plagiarism

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
Much more difficult to get away with in the era of the internet. If a prof or his marking assistant thinks that they recognize a phrase, all they have to do in many cases is to type it into a google search and their suspicions will often be confirmed. Randy

Re: [MBZ] Plagiarism

2012-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff
The university I used to attend had an online service that all student submissions got run through. If you got flagged it was not pretty. Last thing I heard there was a legal challenge because the service retained your work and added it to their scanning database. Dan Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
They certainly are on ice. The difference apart from softer rubber compounds is mostly the siping I think. All those extra cuts let the tread squirm around more and grab onto whatever there is to grab onto. My wife's Honda Accord has a set of Goodyear ice radials. Cannot recall the exact

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Max
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A windage tray keeps fluids from flying about as they are churned up by moving parts. In this case I would guess some sort of baffle in the crankcase to keep oil more or less in place, or at least not in more places than it should be.

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: How can the others be RINOs when Huntsman is the one who has held the most centrist views of the lot? That alone should has apparently ruled him out of consideration for the vast majority of R primary voters. I can't speak for Loren, but it appears that either you

Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: Nokian and Blizzak were always my favorites. The Winterforce brand that Wally Mart carries are amazing in the snow and cheaper too. The only studdable tires that Tire Rack still carries are General Altimax and Firestone Winterforce. From the looks of the survey,

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread WILTON
Rudder trim? ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong? Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update

2012-01-05 Thread WILTON
Agreed. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update It satisfies the inner need for reassurance that what you're

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
3 standard poodles. The 2 boys are 80lb +/- and solid muscle. They are some sort of poodle variant called Bibelot or something like that, apparently from Canada, and more focused on the hunting kind of behavior. Or at least that is what the breeder said, she might have been FOS as I have

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
Final update for now: http://kittrellcommunitywatch.dyndns.org/Last_suspect_arrested No actual news beyond the headline (last suspect arrested). Good work on the Sheriff's part (probably). Now the long wait to see what the criminal justice system can or cannot to. Scott -Original

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
No money -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus I was sorry to see B Bachman drop out. I had been undecided

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread G Mann
Now for the defense attorney to turn this individual into a clean cut super student, outstanding member of his community who was just walking by when all this happened...RIght? Then we the public get to feed and house him and his friends for the next few years while he works on his advanced

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Break windage? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 3 standard poodles. The 2 boys are 80lb +/- and solid muscle. They are some sort of poodle variant called Bibelot or something like that, apparently from Canada,

Re: [MBZ] Way OT, will the USA survive?

2012-01-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
I'm with Grant. Survive? Sure. But what will it look like? Probably 50% of everything we (as a society) produce gets siphoned off in various taxes and spent by various governments. If it were limited to constitutionally-authorized purposes, that would be one thing. Even if it were used for

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
When it brakes lose I feel it! --R On 1/5/12 1:47 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Break windage? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 3 standard poodles. The 2 boys are 80lb +/- and solid muscle. They are some sort of poodle

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 5, 2012 7:10 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Pretty good article: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM603 Yes, thanks for sharing. The motor mount / windage tray problem is new to me. Me too. I've *never*

[MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on the Monday after Christmas. liberty mutual gave me $4818.76. What do I want to buy? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Wrong question. The proper question is related to your statement, my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled... --R On 1/5/12 2:03 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on the Monday after Christmas. liberty mutual gave me $4818.76. What do I want to buy? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts,

[MBZ] Two piece Becker with amplifier

2012-01-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
I recently acquired a two piece Becker model 1432. It may not work - haven't tested it yet. The separate receiver-amplifier comes in a bracket but lacks the connecting cable. How difficult would this be to swap for the one piece Becker unit (model 780) now in the dash and install in one of my

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Walton
When it comes to accidents, bigger and heavier is better. I put my wife in a 1998 S500. Might be more in the $7000 range, however. Stability control (ESP) was an option starting that year and is desirable. Hope she is okay. -Dave Walton On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Rusty Cullens

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
She wasn't in it. She's fine. I was in it with my grand daughter and we got rear ended by a 16 year old that doesn't know the difference between brakes and clutch. It took out the bumper, rear body panel, deck lid, tail lights etc. Pretty substantial damage but he was moving and I wasn't.

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Pretty good article: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM603 Interesting, but I have a problem with this part, So edit it. Make it better. Be sure to reference all the information you can. -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
On 05/01/2012 12:04 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Final update for now: http://kittrellcommunitywatch.dyndns.org/Last_suspect_arrested No actual news beyond the headline (last suspect arrested). Good work on the Sheriff's part (probably). Now the long wait to see what the criminal justice system

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: When it comes to accidents, bigger and heavier is better. I put my wife in a 1998 S500. How has the S500 been reliability-wise? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
Well, one thing to remember. When you really mess up, a good lawyer is not a bad thing to have on your side. Bear in mind that there are places in this world where you don't get a chance to put up a proper defence. The theory of the system is that justice will prevail. The defence lawyer is

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread WILTON
'Hope all are doing well - no whiplash, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280 She wasn't in it. She's fine. I was in it with

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
So far so good! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Fmiser
Max wrote: Anyone know what a windage tray is? It is a screen or louvered plate mounted in the oil pan to minimize the oil 'fog' created by the hurricane caused by a spinning crank. It creates an permeable barrier between the oil in the sump and the crankshaft.

Re: [MBZ] Windage tray - was: First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Fmiser
Here we go. This is an image of a windage tray being put on an engine. The engine is on a build stand and is upside down. That is, the crankshaft is up. It shows how the tray sits as close to the crankshaft as possible without actual contact and holes to prevent oil from puddling in the tray.

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rusty Cullens wrote: my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on the Monday after Christmas. liberty mutual gave me $4818.76. What do I want to buy? What do you want to buy, or what does she want to drive? Or does she just drive whatever you give her? I'd spend a $4800 check on a 210 4matic, but

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Dude, you need to get to the ER pronto! Get someone to roll you in in a wheelchair. Pass out a time or two in the waiting room, fall out of the chair. Better yet call 911 and have them deliver you! You could have a delayed onset of cervical dislocation, disk damage, persistent headaches,

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Walton
Have only had it a few months - too soon to tell. The accumulators needed replaced and there is an intermittent issue where the trunk wants to stick out the lifting handle when I start the car. It does not pop open on its own anymore after I took apart and reassembled the latch assembly so I

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
She likes the size of the 280 so I may go with a newer C class. We'll see. I bought that one in 2006 for $4000.00 with 97,000 miles on it. She has driven it 60,000 miles and I get $800.00 more than I paid for it 6 years ago. Not that bad a deal. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc.

Re: [MBZ] OT Awa Caucus

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Huntsman was never a viable candidate.  Huntsman is a sideshow/joke. These arguments may all be well and good and agreeable. But even Huntsman merely speaks like a know-nothing politician, telling us about the future that he will do in DC, failing to recognize or admit all the

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Rusty wrote: So far so good! Keep that claim open for at least a year. My daughter-in-law is suffering from hit taken over a year ago. Same age type driver, but t-bone hit. They estimate that this will be a lifelong pain in her back, with no real relief to offer. The claim is still open. Keep

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: Dude, you need to get to the ER pronto! What he said. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
ok, thanks. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Then we the public get to feed and house him and his friends for the next few years while he works on his advanced degree in stupid. We need to eliminate this type of cultural 'safety net' out of our culture. This type of 'safety net' is better handled by family, friends,

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: You may find that sometimes that seems to fail but the bottom line is that it is considered better to let the guilty walk free than to condemn the innocent. I can live without that protection - let a large number of innocent be condemned. That whole concept of innocence until

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rusty Cullens wrote: She likes the size of the 280 so I may go with a newer C class. We'll see. I bought that one in 2006 for $4000.00 with 97,000 miles on it. I misread your original post at first and thought it was a 2005 you got $4800 for, then realized it was an early W202. I think

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino
. It is the job of the defence lawyer to try to ensure that the accused is treated fairly according to the law. No, it is the job of the defense to get the defendant acquitted! Sometimes fair treatment involves finding the defendant guilty (if that is what he fairly deserves), but that is NEVER

[MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Original cost $146k? New tires at 17k miles? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
ooops http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2784422561.html On 1/5/12 6:04 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Original cost $146k? New tires at 17k miles? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
Gotta have a rear seat and 4 doors for the grand kids. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes

[MBZ] MY LOOSE YOU GAIN

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2782943006.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rusty Cullens wrote: Gotta have a rear seat and 4 doors for the grand kids. Hey Roger, are W203s any good? http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/ctd/2762385631.html How about a newer, lower mile 202 for less than your insurance money? http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2784650973.html

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: ooops http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2784422561.html On 1/5/12 6:04 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Original cost $146k? New tires at 17k miles? ...or 170 miles with Jeremy Clarkson driving. MSRP was $125k. Were there $20k worth of options on it?

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: MSRP was $125k. Were there $20k worth of options on it? To answer my own question, yes. The AMG Performance Package was $14k of it. http://www.vehix.com/car-reviews/2006/mercedes-benz/sl-class/sl55-amg-55l-amg/vehicle-options ___

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yep, and yep. Our S600 and CL600 cars go through tires often (rear tires especially) and were frighteningly expensive when new if you price out all the options. (We also equip them with snow tires... you'd be surprised how good they can be in a few inches.) Its also interesting to note that

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
You did not read what I said. The defence is entitled to use the rules too. For example, the accused will generally not testify if guilty because his lawyer cannot prevent him from being questioned by the Crown (State in your case) and cannot counsel him to lie or participate in a scenario

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell
It is beginning to sound like you should head for the mountain, Mountain Man. Randy On 05/01/2012 3:19 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Randy wrote: You may find that sometimes that seems to fail but the bottom line is that it is considered better to let the guilty walk free than to condemn the

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Our S600 and CL600 cars ... both have over 100k miles now and have been quite trouble free. We maintain them well. Those twin-turbo V12s can consume money quickly when something is wrong. That must be the first time in

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread WILTON
Tires in 17k? Trying to use all that torque and HP from 0 to 20 mph (or some such) in coupla seconds? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: At least that was the way I used to do it. I know they say that the real high for a defence lawyer is to get someone off when you know full well he is guilty. I probably would have been better as a Crown as I cannot say I wanted to get the guilty off. It's also said, in

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread TE
My dad's got a nice 97 E320 for sale. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1995 C280 my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread G Mann
A good lawyer [barrister] knows the law... a GREAT lawyer knows the judge. In this instance, this miscreant is afforded the rule of law which states he is innocent until proven guilty, and since it is a felony criminal charge [I presume] the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. Further,

[MBZ] Fwd: 1972 Mercedes Benz 250 32000 miles

2012-01-05 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
Maybe this is the one Rusty needs. Offer the seller $4800? 1972 250 Mercedes Benz ~ Chocolate Brown 32,000 Original Miles Tan Leather All Original Original URL: http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/2783074450.htmlhttp://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/2783074450.html Dave

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
They're both 2007 models... W221 and C216. Heres a picture of the CL in the snow last year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/5403428410/ Jaime On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread E M
Considering what such a car is asking of the tires, not really that bad. You'd be lucky to get 10k miles out of a set of tires on a 993 twin turbo. I ran Yokohama 008Rs back in the day on my 911, and at BEST, you'd get 5-6k out of a set. I ran a set down near to the cords once, and the tire guy

Re: [MBZ] Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread E M
Nice! :-) Ed 300E On 5 January 2012 20:02, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They're both 2007 models... W221 and C216. Heres a picture of the CL in the snow last year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/5403428410/ Jaime On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread buymbparts
How much? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: TE ban...@nc.rr.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:17:40 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start update

2012-01-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I think the idea is to ensure the rack is moved off the stop in cases where its so cold them mechanism has gotten stiff and doesn't want to release on its own. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:31:00 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I offered him $50 a week to look after my farm. Figure my aunt and uncle would do the same or maybe more for their place. My cousin's place is even bigger and their caretaker is a bandit... -Curt Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:55:07 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes

[MBZ] Water Heater

2012-01-05 Thread Jerry Herrman
for me. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6771 (20120105) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Water Heater

2012-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff
damaged one if the price was right. I'd be interested in your comments and collective wisdom. Oh, and I don't think I'm interested in a tankless. Too new fangled for me. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6771 (20120105

Re: [MBZ] Water Heater

2012-01-05 Thread TE
comments and collective wisdom. Oh, and I don't think I'm interested in a tankless. Too new fangled for me. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6771 (20120105) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http

Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

2012-01-05 Thread OK Don
My son is at school on the UP (Houghton, MI) in his 190D with around 6k miles on new all-season tires. He found that he could barely get around town after the first snow. He bought a set of 4 Firestone Winterforce tires (the only snow tires that fit the car in town), and has no trouble now. He

[MBZ] Stupid Google

2012-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Remember when Google cyber-slandered Kaleb? http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/one-mans-fight-with-google-over-a-security-warning/?partner=yahoofinance ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] OT - film cameras, was: Is this BS?

2012-01-05 Thread OK Don
What are you using to scan - and are you scanning film or the prints? Is chemistry still readily available? I recently moved my collection of film cameras, and am getting tempted to dust them off, clean the shutters, and run film through them again. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jaime

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender-update

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: I offered him $50 a week to look after my farm. Figure my aunt and uncle would do the same or maybe more for their place. My cousin's place is even bigger and their caretaker is a bandit... I don't recall this offer. Tell me more - sounds like just what I am looking for. Or,

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread OK Don
Ah, then you need an ML. If it's still running now, the early problems have already been taken care of. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Gotta have a rear seat and 4 doors for the grand kids. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997

[MBZ] OT - What is healthcare?

2012-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
The ministry of truth makes cost of healthcare a large issue in our culture these days, doesn't it? The dialog to be heard really never defines this term, or at least, I have not heard it defined. In pondering a definition, I have been thinking that healthcare includes more than doctors and

Re: [MBZ] Windage tray - was: First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-05 Thread Max
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go. This is an image of a windage tray being put on an engine. ... Interesting, thanks Philip. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280

2012-01-05 Thread Max
Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on the Monday after Christmas. liberty mutual gave me $4818.76. What do I want to buy? Wife is OK, right? A 1995 E320. That check would buy a nice one. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Water Heater

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6771 (20120105) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] OT - What is healthcare?

2012-01-05 Thread Rich Thomas
On the radio this evening was some whiny know-it-all making a case for gummint control of sugary foods sold to kids (or, rather, their parents) because when he was little he cajoled his parents into letting him have cookies and mild for brekkie, like his granny allowed him. Gummint in loco

Re: [MBZ] OT - What is healthcare?

2012-01-05 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: Why not have the feds dictate diet in the name of decreasing healthcare costs? The obesity epidemic basically started when the federal government created the food pyramid that told us we needed to be eating a lot of flour and sugar and no animal fats.

Re: [MBZ] are winter tires better, he posts

2012-01-05 Thread RELNGSON
I won't bother answering that. I'm reminded why you are in my kill file, and now I need to go check why this message wasn't flagged We need a filter for silly questions. That have been answered countless times already. RLE ___

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