Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
Can you get one piston out from underneath? At the very least if you do it from above you'd only need to pull one head. -Curt Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 20:11:56 -0700 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile Message-ID: 44086cb4-70f6-4e9b-b09a-f17b6d156...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But if you open it up that far, you may as well do it all. clay On May 17, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Could you replace the rings on just that piston? I was thinking about that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
As I think about it it wouldn't be a lot more work (comparatively) to do all the rings, I mean 3 more holes are right there awaiting replacement... -Curt Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:16:53 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile Message-ID: 20120517211653.8a9dc9ae.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 May 2012 20:11:56 -0700 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: But if you open it up that far, you may as well do it all. For replacing rings, all he needs to do is break the timing chain, remove the affected head, remove the oil pan, remove the rod cap, and pull the piston and rod out the top. He can do that with the engine in the car. It's a whole lot more work to do it all. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
For replacing rings, all he needs to do is break the timing chain, remove the affected head, remove the oil pan, remove the rod cap, and pull the piston and rod out the top. He can do that with the engine in the car. It's a whole lot more work to do it all. That is an interesting question, can it be done in-situ? It's #7. Pulling the engine would be much more work, even pulling the hood (working alone) would be a chore. I've always suspected a cracked ring, since the problem seemed to come on suddenly. As I recall, though, that subframe is not my friend in this. Rebuilding that Hercules engine has left me with no taste for this sort of thing, let me tell you. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
On Thu, 17 May 2012 23:22:24 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: You sure about that? I have not seen a MB that you could pull the pan with the engine in the car. Thus the small steel lower pan on OM 621 and OM61x engines to allow access to the oil pump and the #1 rod. Now that you mention it, I am not sure about that. I forgot about the difficulty of removing the pan in Benzes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
If it has cracked rings, then most likely the cylinder is scored, and replacing rings will do little to cure the problem. I don't have a 380SL to look at, but I am 98% sure that pan won't come off in the frame. I think you are looking at boring at least one hole, or a engine swapIF the compression test result is repeatable. I don't mind OM621 or OM61x rebuilds, but the SL looks like a monster, and the hood does not lock in the up position and has to be removed. I've never had any appetite for V-engines. For replacing rings, all he needs to do is break the timing chain, remove the affected head, remove the oil pan, remove the rod cap, and pull the piston and rod out the top. He can do that with the engine in the car. It's a whole lot more work to do it all. That is an interesting question, can it be done in-situ? It's #7. Pulling the engine would be much more work, even pulling the hood (working alone) would be a chore. I've always suspected a cracked ring, since the problem seemed to come on suddenly. As I recall, though, that subframe is not my friend in this. Rebuilding that Hercules engine has left me with no taste for this sort of thing, let me tell you. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
Might be able to get numbers 1 or 2 but nothing after that with as much or more work required vs removing the engine.0n a W108 (69 280S) in a galaxy long long ago, I disconnected the motor mounts and removed the lower oil pan then the Oil Pump. I raised the engine and removed the oil pan. I could probably do all this faster by removing the engine but at the time I didn't have that option - for some reason I don't recall. I haven't tried this on a newer MB. But I can say laying on a cold concrete floor is something I will never do again! tried that a few weeks ago when working on my 66MGB and after 20 minutes I was almost unable to stand up! Seems the muscles do odd things when very cold ;-| LarryT 91 300D (the perfect MB IMO) On 5/18/2012 10:34 AM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2012 23:22:24 -0500 Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: You sure about that? I have not seen a MB that you could pull the pan with the engine in the car. Thus the small steel lower pan on OM 621 and OM61x engines to allow access to the oil pump and the #1 rod. Now that you mention it, I am not sure about that. I forgot about the difficulty of removing the pan in Benzes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
Get a sheet of that foam insulation (like $9 at Lowes) and put it down on the concrete. Soft, and warmer too. And an anti-freeze jug makes a nice head rest. Can't help you with the engine work, but I can help make it more comfortable! --R On 5/18/12 11:19 AM, Larry T wrote: Might be able to get numbers 1 or 2 but nothing after that with as much or more work required vs removing the engine.0n a W108 (69 280S) in a galaxy long long ago, I disconnected the motor mounts and removed the lower oil pan then the Oil Pump. I raised the engine and removed the oil pan. I could probably do all this faster by removing the engine but at the time I didn't have that option - for some reason I don't recall. I haven't tried this on a newer MB. But I can say laying on a cold concrete floor is something I will never do again! tried that a few weeks ago when working on my 66MGB and after 20 minutes I was almost unable to stand up! Seems the muscles do odd things when very cold ;-| LarryT 91 300D (the perfect MB IMO) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
Two or Three layers of cardboard make it softer and warmer and you can toss them when oil drips on them and keep the floor clean too. Randy On 18/05/2012 10:34 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Get a sheet of that foam insulation (like $9 at Lowes) and put it down on the concrete. Soft, and warmer too. And an anti-freeze jug makes a nice head rest. Can't help you with the engine work, but I can help make it more comfortable! --R On 5/18/12 11:19 AM, Larry T wrote: Might be able to get numbers 1 or 2 but nothing after that with as much or more work required vs removing the engine.0n a W108 (69 280S) in a galaxy long long ago, I disconnected the motor mounts and removed the lower oil pan then the Oil Pump. I raised the engine and removed the oil pan. I could probably do all this faster by removing the engine but at the time I didn't have that option - for some reason I don't recall. I haven't tried this on a newer MB. But I can say laying on a cold concrete floor is something I will never do again! tried that a few weeks ago when working on my 66MGB and after 20 minutes I was almost unable to stand up! Seems the muscles do odd things when very cold ;-| LarryT 91 300D (the perfect MB IMO) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle
When you see unavailable, I think its best to call/email with the idea that everything is available regardless of what the website says. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Rusty, I did check your site before I went to Rockauto, but the parts I wanted came up as unavailable. I believe I've eliminated the EGR valve as a culprit, though it looks pretty rough/corroded externally. If I disconnect the vacuum, the idle does not change; if I apply vacuum at idle the engine immediately stumbles and dies. I'll try loosening the mount bolts and sliding the engine around a little to see if I can get an improvement. Might try loosening all the bolts a bit and starting the engine, to see if it will settle where it wants to be. Allan Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com writes: I just need the year, make model, I can do the rest. World Pac owns CarQuest so we can get anything they have. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle Cool. I can get part numbers - that's the easy part. Dan On May 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: He can. But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126 coupe or a 280SEL I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the Q can't get domestic parts for us Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html In 1979, they were made in Germany --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500
On May 18, 2012 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html In 1979, they were made in Germany Not Alabammy?? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500
Where are they made now? Japan? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:22:35 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html In 1979, they were made in Germany --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500
That was in 1980 --R On 5/18/12 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On May 18, 2012 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html In 1979, they were made in Germany Not Alabammy?? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan On May 18, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date:Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Borked? Or Broked? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:49:26 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9 No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan On May 18, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date:Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Knackered! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: buymbpa...@gmail.com buymbpa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9 Borked? Or Broked? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9 No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
So, why last chance and moving? Is he sending it to the lcoal junk yard if he doesn't sell if before he leaves? Randy On 18/05/2012 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Original Message Subject: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500
Now, if it were only a diesel! Randy On 18/05/2012 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html In 1979, they were made in Germany --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
good body, too bad about the engine. Might be able to toss a newer diesel in. Would part with $500 for the body clay On May 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, why last chance and moving? Is he sending it to the lcoal junk yard if he doesn't sell if before he leaves? Randy On 18/05/2012 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Original Message Subject: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
Not warmer, the foam will reflect most of your body heat back to you. For a good cold weather out house seat cut a piece of foam to use for a toilet seat. -Curt Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:55:38 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile Message-ID: 4fb670fa.3000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Two or Three layers of cardboard make it softer and warmer and you can toss them when oil drips on them and keep the floor clean too. Randy On 18/05/2012 10:34 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Get a sheet of that foam insulation (like $9 at Lowes) and put it down on the concrete. Soft, and warmer too. And an anti-freeze jug makes a nice head rest. Can't help you with the engine work, but I can help make it more comfortable! --R On 5/18/12 11:19 AM, Larry T wrote: Might be able to get numbers 1 or 2 but nothing after that with as much or more work required vs removing the engine.0n a W108 (69 280S) in a galaxy long long ago, I disconnected the motor mounts and removed the lower oil pan then the Oil Pump. I raised the engine and removed the oil pan. I could probably do all this faster by removing the engine but at the time I didn't have that option - for some reason I don't recall. I haven't tried this on a newer MB. But I can say laying on a cold concrete floor is something I will never do again! tried that a few weeks ago when working on my 66MGB and after 20 minutes I was almost unable to stand up! Seems the muscles do odd things when very cold ;-| LarryT 91 300D (the perfect MB IMO) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
I removed the hood, removed and rebuilt the engine, and replaced it all on the '78 450SLC I had. It's not that big a deal. You do need helper to remove and replace the hood. My wife helped me - not all that hard. Of course, it took me almost two years, between life and scrounging for the cheapest parts. The ALL the rubber in the intake system had to be replaced. I'd loof for a good used engine, freshen it up as needed, and do the swap. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If it has cracked rings, then most likely the cylinder is scored, and replacing rings will do little to cure the problem. I don't have a 380SL to look at, but I am 98% sure that pan won't come off in the frame. I think you are looking at boring at least one hole, or a engine swapIF the compression test result is repeatable. I don't mind OM621 or OM61x rebuilds, but the SL looks like a monster, and the hood does not lock in the up position and has to be removed. I've never had any appetite for V-engines. For replacing rings, all he needs to do is break the timing chain, remove the affected head, remove the oil pan, remove the rod cap, and pull the piston and rod out the top. He can do that with the engine in the car. It's a whole lot more work to do it all. That is an interesting question, can it be done in-situ? It's #7. Pulling the engine would be much more work, even pulling the hood (working alone) would be a chore. I've always suspected a cracked ring, since the problem seemed to come on suddenly. As I recall, though, that subframe is not my friend in this. Rebuilding that Hercules engine has left me with no taste for this sort of thing, let me tell you. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile
I did remove and replace the pan on the OM603 in teh SDL - I had to lift the engine a few inches with the lift, and remove the steering link and shock. It can be done, but it's almost as easy to remove the whole engine. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2012 23:22:24 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: You sure about that? I have not seen a MB that you could pull the pan with the engine in the car. Thus the small steel lower pan on OM 621 and OM61x engines to allow access to the oil pump and the #1 rod. Now that you mention it, I am not sure about that. I forgot about the difficulty of removing the pan in Benzes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Either one. Swedish chef - borked. Dan Hüsker Düü On May 18, 2012, at 1:56 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Borked? Or Broked? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:49:26 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9 No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan On May 18, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 Date:Fri, 18 May 2012 13:23:47 -0400 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] nurburgring
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/24h-nurburgring-coverage --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 harsh shift
My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today; not nearly neck-jerking but certainly noticeably more so than ever before. Suggestions? 'Didn't get chance to check fluid level today; 'plan to tomorrow. Fluid and filter change? BTW, 'don't know what's in it; whatever was in it when I got it 8 years ago; 'doubt it's M1. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Microfilm Library for sale (incomplete)
No affiliation. Link has pics. He's taking offers. Thought it might be of interest to someone who may not see other forums. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1652883-f-s-mercedes-microfilm-library.html Seller's words: Hi guys, I have a Mercedes Microfilm library that I no longer need. It is not complete, but does have a ton of films covering everything from body, mechanical, trim, wheels, engines from 1960`s to mid 1990`s ( sorry no reader anymore ) If there is a specific model or engine that you need I can check to make sure it is in there before you buy. $135.00 shipped to any of the lower 48 It's my vague recollection some transmission fiche has information not commonly available. Could well be wrong on that - it's been awhile. When I bought a fiche reader a decade ago I think I paid $20 - used it a few years and sold it for $25. Dave SoCal - '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift
On May 18, 2012 4:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today Fluid and filter change? If it started all of a sudden, more likely a vacuum leak. Hopefully not one of the new climate control pods you put in when you did the evacectomy (you DID change them all, right?) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - paypal
Has anyone else noticed this? I log in to ebay to pay for item. Ebay makes me log in to paypal. Payment is completed and I log out of ebay. Open a new tab and go to paypal - still logged in. This has gone on for years. My standard practice is to log on to paypal after logging off ebay and log off paypal. An inconvenience, but it shouldn't happen. Why can't ebay make this stuff work? They are huge tech company... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift
Yep, changed 'em all; doubt it's vacuum; got better as day progressed; nearly normal by end of day; plan to look very closely tomorrow for anything suspicious-looking. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift On May 18, 2012 4:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today Fluid and filter change? If it started all of a sudden, more likely a vacuum leak. Hopefully not one of the new climate control pods you put in when you did the evacectomy (you DID change them all, right?) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle
Tonight I worked on the idea that the mounts were not bolted down in the correct position (the plates that bolt to the chassis have a bit of slop built in, not sure why, I guess so they don't have to build the chassis to close tolerances). I loosened all the bolts, started the engine, put it in drive, reverse, then back into neutral. Gave it a bit of gas in each position. The engine did move around a bit. Bolted it back down where it had settled, and I can't say that I can tell a lot of difference in the vibrations. Looking at the setup, I'm not convinced the mounts are responsible. I think the old ones were tired, because replacing them resulted in improvement, but not elimination of the vibrations. One of the forum posts described finding the timing being off. The timing belt on this engine is past-due for replacement. I wonder if it has gotten stretched enough to jump a tooth? Wrong timing could cause a rough idle. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift
I'd look for a vacuum leak on the modulator or the vacuum line to it. Loss of vacuum will cause abrupt shifts. WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today; not nearly neck-jerking but certainly noticeably more so than ever before. Suggestions? 'Didn't get chance to check fluid level today; 'plan to tomorrow. Fluid and filter change? BTW, 'don't know what's in it; whatever was in it when I got it 8 years ago; 'doubt it's M1. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: BTW, 'don't know what's in it; whatever was in it when I got it 8 years ago; 'doubt it's M1. Almost certainly not. If it's that old, yes well past time for a fluid and filter change. Don't forget to drain the converter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift
I think you need a rebuilt transmission! LOL! I wonder who sells them? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:41:17 To: mercedes listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today; not nearly neck-jerking but certainly noticeably more so than ever before. Suggestions? 'Didn't get chance to check fluid level today; 'plan to tomorrow. Fluid and filter change? BTW, 'don't know what's in it; whatever was in it when I got it 8 years ago; 'doubt it's M1. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Urban Dictionary: borked To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Borked? Or Broked? From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
I like to use gimped:) Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Urban Dictionary: borked To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Borked? Or Broked? From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - paypal
On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:56:23 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed this? I log in to ebay to pay for item. Ebay makes me log in to paypal. Payment is completed and I log out of ebay. Open a new tab and go to paypal - still logged in. No, I have not noticed this, but thanks for pointing it out. This has gone on for years. My standard practice is to log on to paypal after logging off ebay and log off paypal. I usually log onto PayPal and download my history and then log off there, but I'll have to make sure I do log off. An inconvenience, but it shouldn't happen. Why can't ebay make this stuff work? They are huge tech company... Good question. Why, for quite a while years ago, were the log on pages for eBay not encrypted? Another wonder. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9
For your weekend entertainment: In Looseyanna 'Specially one worth $501! (sorry Russ, just couldn't help it) Full text of the Law RS 14:67.13 67.13. Theft of an alligator A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether dead or alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the other to the misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices, or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator is essential. B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both. (2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one hundred dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years, or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both. (3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value of one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more than six months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both. If the offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of an alligator two or more times previously, upon any subsequent conviction he shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years, or may be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both. Acts 1992, No. 410, 1. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TORX Allens?
I returned the O'Reilly's L-shared TORX set ($9.99) and purchase a Duralast 3/8 T-60 bit at AutoZone for $4.99. It doesn't have a set screw like the Craftsman ($11.69) but I drove the bit out with a hammer and punch. I can put a 12mm box end wrench on it. I could have purchased an entire set of star shaped drivers at Harbor Freight for $9.99, but it was more than I needed and Harbor Freight is on the other side of town. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: The cheap tools I got at O'Reilly's for this project are not even called TORX, they are called star shaped On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: Thanks for the idea John. I had seen others use the removable bit design with vice grips and box end wrenches. But I didn't have a T60 and I thought an L-shaped allen with a pipe would be faster an easier. I have always thought allen was synonymous with hex - but you seem to be using it to mean the L-shaped rod. So Allen Torx had me quite confused. --Philip Yes, Allen is a tradename for internal hex just as kleenex is a tradename, but is used as generic for snotrag. Allen has been used as generic for internal hex. Phillips is a specific design of cross-slotted screwdriver, but the name of the design is unknown. It is simply a phillips screw or screwdriver. Torx is also a tradename that has come to be used as a generic. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Wow! Urban Dictionary: Gimped (1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment. (2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone else is doing. (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie Pulp Fiction http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp ~ From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com I like to use gimped:) On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Urban Dictionary: borked To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Borked? Or Broked? From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. I use it like borked. Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Wow! Urban Dictionary: Gimped (1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment. (2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone else is doing. (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie Pulp Fiction http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp ~ From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com I like to use gimped:) On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Urban Dictionary: borked To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Borked? Or Broked? From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Dan This actually could be a nice car for cheap http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9
Dan wrote: No engine, or the engine in the car is borked? Rusty wrote: Borked? Or Broked? Gerry wrote: Urban Dictionary: borked To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I like to use gimped:) Hmmm. I use that to describe creative image editing. Like when using photoshop as a verb - but I use the GIMP, so my images are gimped. -- Philip, who gimps a lot of photos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
