[MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
Well, I removed the oil lines, I'm trying to change the engine mounts which will probably let me remove the lines when the mount is off on the driver's side. i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped same wrench feels solid on the other side ideas? i'm getting sick of this whole deal. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped That sucks. It is possible that the bolt is turning but not coming out because the aluminum arm it threads into is stripped. If it has ever been apart before that IS a possibility. Every thing has to be lined up just right before that bolt goes in, or the arm will strip. Put some tension on it with a jack and some plywood (to prevent denting) under the oil pan and try removing the bolt then. You may need a new arm or helicoil it. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)
I didn't say that Steak 'n Shake's shakes were fake, just that the base is ice milk, not ice cream. The flavorings were all real when I was doing it, but then again, this was many years ago before all the froo-froo stuff they do nowadays. Anything at Culver's is definitely not heart healthy. But it is good. That being said, if you live in southeast Wisconsin, there are far better custard places than Culver's. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 14, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Culver's Chocolate Shake has chocolate flavored syrup and vanilla custard mix. Though I like their burgers and cheese curds, I generally skip the shakes. Last time I got a shake at Steak 'n Shake it seemed to have real banana in there, but maybe the chocolate is fake too. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Do they make the frozen custard with real ingredients like Steak 'n Shake milk shakes? better than... Real WI cream custard is made in each store and pretty good sandwiches too __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
On Oct 15, 2012 3:33 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped That sucks. It is possible that the bolt is turning but not coming out because the aluminum arm it threads into is stripped. If it has ever been apart As an alternative interpretation, the Allen bolts on the SDL's manifold were just a little stripped for a quarter to half of the head, it's obvious out but was not obvious when obscured. I felt like the wrench had contact but it did not, so the wrench would spin under pressure. Eventually I wiggled it into place but it took a lot of doing. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
On Oct 15, 2012 3:33 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped That sucks. It is possible that the bolt is turning but not coming out because the aluminum arm it threads into is stripped. If it has ever been apart As an alternative interpretation, the Allen bolts on the SDL's manifold were just a little stripped for a quarter to half of the head, it's obvious out but was not obvious when obscured. I felt like the wrench had contact but it did not, so the wrench would spin under pressure. Eventually I wiggled it into place but it took a lot of doing. Best, Tim Ja, You might try a new 8mm socket (allen) on a 12 extension, and hammer on the extension to be sure the allen is seated. Moral of the story: Always use neverseize on MM bolts, and anywhere else that steel threads meet aluminum alloy If that does not work, you can try grinding a 10mm or 3/8 allen socket to fit tight, with a slight taper, then bet that into the head. The hammering into the head of the bolt should be done with a fairly big hammer...1 1/2 to 2 lb or a 4 lb. you want enough shock to loosen the chemical bond between the steel and aluminum. anyone who ever had a 60s or 70s hondog motorcycle knows every trick to get a headless Phillips out. That skill is transferrable to allens. beating and hammer driven impact wrenches are de-rigour. Hondog bolts were either impossible or they had already fallen out from vibration. Once I worked on a BMW, I never went back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
These work for me when removing striped hex head bolts. No drilling required. http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Industrial-53227-Multi-Spline-Extractor/dp/B0002SRG66 -Dave Walton On Monday, October 15, 2012, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Well, I removed the oil lines, I'm trying to change the engine mounts which will probably let me remove the lines when the mount is off on the driver's side. i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped same wrench feels solid on the other side ideas? i'm getting sick of this whole deal. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
Different issue but how is the interior? Seats? Randy On 12/10/2012 5:25 PM, clay monroe wrote: That is a possibility. I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the car cover on for now. Will be sending her to the indy next spring for a full tune up and resolution of these issues. I have to get new shoes for her anyway. Hard to find a decent tire, let alone V rated in 14 inch.MBCA forums and Tom, from Classic center say the R107 should now be shod in a 15 or 16. Yeah, new rims... that will be cost effective. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 12, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Is it running really rich? Your fuel loss or consumpton and the black oil makes me wonder if it is dumping way too much fuel into the engine. Randy On 10/10/2012 6:59 PM, clay monroe wrote: One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks and drips while on the creeper for two hours. Stuck a sheet of cardboard under the car where the fuel lines go to see if there are drips that end up on it. I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5 gallons of fuel clay On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Max Dillon wrote: You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat
On 13/10/2012 10:46 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have. Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some lead foot could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light. RLE ___ That is why the rear of the Prius is sloped like it is - so the F250's can go over them without catching on the bumper. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS: Phoenix heat NOW: church of the pious
On 14/10/2012 5:13 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I took a road trip a coupla weeks ago and saw several Piouses being driven on the interstate and 80+mph, passing me. Go figure. So much for saving the planet. --R Oh! Like you just don't understand! Its like they WANT to save the planet and like they are S much holier than you are (in the church of the holy almighty gbermnt.)Its like OK for them to go fast, because like THEY saved the planet by buying like a pious. Its like they want to save the planet. ___ A friend's in-laws have one. The mother-in-law has anxiety attacks if they go downhill long enough for the light on the dash to indicate the battery is fully charged. She is afraid the battery will explode if it is over-charged. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Oct 12, 2012, at 18:25, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: That is a possibility. I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the car cover on for now. Will be sending her to the indy next spring for a full tune up and resolution of these issues. I have to get new shoes for her anyway. Hard to find a decent tire, let alone V rated in 14 inch.MBCA forums and Tom, from Classic center say the R107 should now be shod in a 15 or 16. Yeah, new rims... that will be cost effective. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 12, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Is it running really rich? Your fuel loss or consumpton and the black oil makes me wonder if it is dumping way too much fuel into the engine. Randy On 10/10/2012 6:59 PM, clay monroe wrote: One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks and drips while on the creeper for two hours. Stuck a sheet of cardboard under the car where the fuel lines go to see if there are drips that end up on it. I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5 gallons of fuel clay On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Max Dillon wrote: You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
Doesn't lower bolt secure mount to sub-frame, threads are in mount? I'm wondering if the mount totally disintegrated, and part of it is turning with the bolt. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped That sucks. It is possible that the bolt is turning but not coming out because the aluminum arm it threads into is stripped. If it has ever been apart before that IS a possibility. Every thing has to be lined up just right before that bolt goes in, or the arm will strip. Put some tension on it with a jack and some plywood (to prevent denting) under the oil pan and try removing the bolt then. You may need a new arm or helicoil it. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] xRe: 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
The other listers are probably correct, but here's my experience with an '83 300D FWIW: The inside bolt next to the engine on the mount was difficult to get to and seemed stripped, yet a short piece of allen wrench seemed to seat very firmly. I suspected that the longer allen wrench was not sitting straight enough to go all the way into the bolt head, so I bought a set of long allen wrenches which had a ball shaped hex head on one end (from Autozone?). The hex ball seated firmly at a slight angle, so I cut the opposite right angle end off with a Dremel abrasive wheel, put a quarter inch socket on the straight piece of Allen wrench, and the hex bolt came out. (The hex bolt had been previously treated with WD-40 and another solvent the day before.) On reassembly the hex ball tightened the Allen bolt securely. Gerry On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped That sucks. It is possible that the bolt is turning but not coming out because the aluminum arm it threads into is stripped. If it has ever been apart As an alternative interpretation, the Allen bolts on the SDL's manifold were just a little stripped for a quarter to half of the head, it's obvious out but was not obvious when obscured. I felt like the wrench had contact but it did not, so the wrench would spin under pressure. Eventually I wiggled it into place but it took a lot of doing. Best, Tim Ja, You might try a new 8mm socket (allen) on a 12 extension, and hammer on the extension to be sure the allen is seated. Moral of the story: Always use neverseize on MM bolts, and anywhere else that steel threads meet aluminum alloy If that does not work, you can try grinding a 10mm or 3/8 allen socket to fit tight, with a slight taper, then bet that into the head. The hammering into the head of the bolt should be done with a fairly big hammer...1 1/2 to 2 lb or a 4 lb. you want enough shock to loosen the chemical bond between the steel and aluminum. anyone who ever had a 60s or 70s hondog motorcycle knows every trick to get a headless Phillips out. That skill is transferrable to allens. beating and hammer driven impact wrenches are de-rigour. Hondog bolts were either impossible or they had already fallen out from vibration. Once I worked on a BMW, I never went back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5331 - Release Date: 10/14/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
Doesn't lower bolt secure mount to sub-frame, threads are in mount? I'm wondering if the mount totally disintegrated, and part of it is turning with the bolt. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD If my memory serves, you have it backwards. On the older cars where the arm bolts to the mount from above, the thread is in the mount. On the 123/126 with the bolt going up from underneath the thread is in the arm from the block, and the mount only has a hole. Either way it is a steel/alum alloy connection, and when moisture is present, they generate a chemical bond. That is a real SOB to break loose without a flame wrench (not good around rubber and in proximity of the fuel lines) or by beating. The motor mount bolts should always be reassembled with neverseize unless you live where Grant does. (No stealership ever did this to my knowledge) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS: Phoenix heat NOW: church of the pious
___ A friend's in-laws have one. The mother-in-law has anxiety attacks if they go downhill long enough for the light on the dash to indicate the battery is fully charged. She is afraid the battery will explode if it is over-charged. Randy Sounds like a typical greenieweenie pious buyer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 I think that is the problem. the 107 supposedly goes faster. Not that it matters much with our friendly local gooobermnt revenue enhancement schemes uh sorry, I mean speed laws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
I had to remove the motor mounts (was changing them anyway) on my 83 300D when I did the oil lines. It's definitely a PITA messy job. For the allen you can try the next size up and file it down until you can just barely jam it in. Then it is less likely to round out. I had to do that on one of them as I recall. Allan Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com writes: Well, I removed the oil lines, I'm trying to change the engine mounts which will probably let me remove the lines when the mount is off on the driver's side. i can't remove the lower 8mm allen screw. The allen is clean and doesn't LOOK stripped, but it acts stripped same wrench feels solid on the other side ideas? i'm getting sick of this whole deal. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dead SL
..put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again... Didn't you replace the fuel pump relay previously? Or not? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Fires too, a friend on Facebook says electric cars burn to the ground as if gas cars never ever catch on fire. Both happen rarely enough to not be a realistic concern. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric cars
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I wish Steve [Jobs] had worked on an electric or hybrid car. He knew how to sell things... He was pretty excited about the Segway when it came out. Still only used by geeks and obese mall cops. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the wider 205/70 size. I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs the car originally came with. They looked awesome and handled great... I plan on putting a set on my W109. I have a set on Vredestein Hi Trac 2s on my 300D in 195/70R14 they're genuine summer tires which is especially hard to find in 14. I'm very happy with them and would get another set. Not sure if you can get them in 205/70R14, however. As you may have guessed, I have Vredestein dealer just down the road. Jaime On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 I think that is the problem. the 107 supposedly goes faster. Not that it matters much with our friendly local gooobermnt revenue enhancement schemes uh sorry, I mean speed laws. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td everything is turning to crap
I had to remove the motor mounts (was changing them anyway) on my 83 300D when I did the oil lines. It's definitely a PITA messy job. For the allen you can try the next size up and file it down until you can just barely jam it in. Then it is less likely to round out. I had to do that on one of them as I recall. Allan Jack up the engine a little to support, as described. unbolt the offending Motor mount fmor the subframe, and its arm from the block. Take the whole mess out together. THen you can work on it with more tools and if needed, flame wrench. you can't hurt a dead motor mount much with a flame wrench, but you might not want to burn it up inside the garage, or where geeenie weenie (neighbors) might see. With it out of the car, you can hack up the motor mount until you are left with the arm and a bolt, then apply the flame wrench if necessary. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric cars
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I wish Steve [Jobs] had worked on an electric or hybrid car. He knew how to sell things... He was pretty excited about the Segway when it came out. Still only used by geeks and obese mall cops. Allan -- Allan Streib I'd say segway is used only by the chemically castrated and/or obese. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:28 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Ditto on the no interest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil
Ahh but thats something that anti-s are using to snub electric cars. Apparently a Volt was left in a yard of some sort for 2 weeks after a crash and finally spontaneously caught fire. A regular gas car would have had its fuel tank drained, apparently nobody thought to disconnect the battery. Now electric cars are dangerous. -Curt --- On Mon, 10/15/12, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com, Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 8:04 PM Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Fires too, a friend on Facebook says electric cars burn to the ground as if gas cars never ever catch on fire. Both happen rarely enough to not be a realistic concern. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric cars
I was thinking about that too. I remember when it was going to be The next big thing. Its been my experience that if its billed as the next big thing it usually isn't... --- On Mon, 10/15/12, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric cars To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com, Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 8:06 PM Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I wish Steve [Jobs] had worked on an electric or hybrid car. He knew how to sell things... He was pretty excited about the Segway when it came out. Still only used by geeks and obese mall cops. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the wider 205/70 size. I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs the car originally came with. They looked awesome and handled great... I plan on putting a set on my W109. I have a set on Vredestein Hi Trac 2s on my 300D in 195/70R14 they're genuine summer tires which is especially hard to find in 14. I'm very happy with them and would get another set. Not sure if you can get them in 205/70R14, however. As you may have guessed, I have Vredestein dealer just down the road. Jaime yeah, and I remember the days they could beat anyone's prices I bought lots of made in Germany Continentals, Metzler, Vred and Kleber tires form them that I can remember. That was really nice. Then something happened, and they suddenly were higher than anyone else. Not so nice now. $200 a tire? I won't pay $800 plus freight and installation for tires on a $500 car. I guess I could find some 126 15 hole wheels, but they won't look right on a 123. And, it is getting hard to find 15 tires now. I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:28 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Ditto on the no interest. Craig Why? a 240D you can sail has got to be interesting! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New starter, now dead voltage regulator?
Q sent a new rebuilt Bosch starter for The White Whale, installed that tonight. Went for a spin to pick up a prescription for SWMBO, took a jaunt on the beltway to stretch her legs a but. Alternator light came on, measured 12 volts at the battery with the engine running, so either the voltage regulator or the alternator has died. To top it off, engine has developed a nice lifter tick, after just a hundred miles or so on Dino oil. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD White Whale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
'Fraid I'm gonna hafta let it go, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad... On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:28 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Ditto on the no interest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300td crap
Well, i worked on it from about 1 .30 pm till dark got the lines out had new rubber crimped on them and reinstalled same tried to remove the engine mounting arm bolted to the block, but with the studs there isn't enough clearance to remove it my mount is not bad, so i'm leaving it everything is mostly assembled but i need to tighten it all up what a mess i have a destroyed mount on daughter's 84 300d turbo ... got to do it too it's never ending thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 83, Issue 45
Max maybe you knocked a wire off or loose on the back of the alternator in your messing around under there are there any ground wires at the starter thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Oct 15, 2012, at 10:31 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Date: October 15, 2012 9:59:08 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] New starter, now dead voltage regulator? Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Q sent a new rebuilt Bosch starter for The White Whale, installed that tonight. Went for a spin to pick up a prescription for SWMBO, took a jaunt on the beltway to stretch her legs a but. Alternator light came on, measured 12 volts at the battery with the engine running, so either the voltage regulator or the alternator has died. To top it off, engine has developed a nice lifter tick, after just a hundred miles or so on Dino oil. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD White Whale Q sent a new rebuilt Bosch starter for The White Whale, installed that tonight. Went for a spin to pick up a prescription for SWMBO, took a jaunt on the beltway to stretch her legs a but. Alternator light came on, measured 12 volts at the battery with the engine running, so either the voltage regulator or the alternator has died. To top it off, engine has developed a nice lifter tick, after just a hundred miles or so on Dino oil. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD White Whale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
Oh, that's one of the best ever - a real classic. All it needs is a clutch and BTW a new paint job. Buy it for $1200 invest $1000 and you have a Mercedes none the less... On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:25 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Fraid I'm gonna hafta let it go, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad... On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:57:28 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Ditto on the no interest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] lost alternator on 87 TD
Check the positive cable on the starter -- typically, Benz attaches the main buss line there, and it can slip up into the cable bundle while you are wrestling the starter in, with the result that the alternator is NOT connected to the electrical system. You can get some contact by the loop on the end of the cable touching the bolt, but it can easily slip away, too. Regulator failure is also a posibility -- easy enough to check, just undo the two screws and take it out of the rear bottom of the alternator. If it comes right out instead of springing downward against the brush springs, the brushes are worn out. You can replace them or get a replacement regulator. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
hees a looser --R On 10/15/12 8:57 PM, Tim C wrote: Not mine, no interest. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3341466699.html Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Starter, now dead voltage regulator
Only one plug on the back with all the connections. Regulator/brush set is pretty cheap and easy to replace from underneath. (2 screws) just have to be careful to get the brushes in and compressed without breaking them. One time I made a temp keeper with a piece of paper and tape. get them in place and then pull the paper to release the brushes. that makes it really easy. Just remember to unhook the ground cable at the battery before you start. Max maybe you knocked a wire off or loose on the back of the alternator in your messing around under there are there any ground wires at the starter thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Oct 15, 2012, at 10:31 PM, m ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil
yeah, let's ignore the mega-bux Fisker that burned itself up in Woodside recently while the owner was shopping,... this was claimed to be due to a different cause than the last one that flamed out; ironically, the cause of this most recent one was determined to be a cooling fan that overheated,...?! $100K+ cars, but clearly still not ready for Prime Time. cheers! e On 15/Oct/12 18:24, Curt Raymond wrote: Ahh but thats something that anti-s are using to snub electric cars. Apparently a Volt was left in a yard of some sort for 2 weeks after a crash and finally spontaneously caught fire. A regular gas car would have had its fuel tank drained, apparently nobody thought to disconnect the battery. Now electric cars are dangerous. -Curt --- On Mon, 10/15/12, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Fledging electric car market in turmoil To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com, Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 8:04 PM Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Fires too, a friend on Facebook says electric cars burn to the ground as if gas cars never ever catch on fire. Both happen rarely enough to not be a realistic concern. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So many things wrong with this ad...
hees a looser --R Naaa Heees a sailer dinja reed daad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric personal transportation devices
I reckon part of the problem with those things is that you can't ride em on the road and can't ride em on the sidewalk. Hendrik who has never been on a sedgythingy On 16/10/12 10:36, Allan Streib wrote: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I wish Steve [Jobs] had worked on an electric or hybrid car. He knew how to sell things... He was pretty excited about the Segway when it came out. Still only used by geeks and obese mall cops. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
