Re: [MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Frederick Moir
OK Don, Wilton, et al. That sparked a synapse or two. Dug out my Picket N1010-ES Trig. and it still slides smoothly, aluminium y'know. Now if only I could remember how to use the bloody thing!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: OK Don >To: Mercedes Di

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I had a girlfriend in college whose father had been a navigator, he told me he had seen B-52s come back from missions around the north pole with their tails ventilated by the rooshans. I guess things got a little touchy now and then. --R On 1/15/13 11:04 PM, WILTON wrote: Oh, well, of course

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Oh, well, of course - couple of the differences between "early" (A through F models) and G and H models - vertical stabilizers on G's and H's are 7 feet shorter; spoilers on top of wing replaced ailerons. I started in E' and F's for a few hours of training in '62; then operational in G's for 6

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley
I don't recognize Jones, but Dave had some good MBZ info. Mitch. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh well dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used par

Re: [MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Craig
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:04:07 -0600 OK Don wrote: > This is my apocalypse calculator, since I've lost the ability to > multiply manually due to the excessive use of electronic calculators :-) It will work just fine, as long as you accept that 2 x 2 = 3.99. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] '93 500e on Portland CL

2013-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I saw them new for $70K. Doesn't seem all that long ago either... How the mighty have fallen... On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > You don't see these too often. > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3536505834.html > > Alex > ___

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
OK. In simple terms, they wacked the top several feet off the vertical tail and removed the ailerons. This produced interesting control coordination: when you bank you need to add power and up elevator (both more than expected) to maintain level flight. Even so, there were guys (back then all gu

Re: [MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Craig
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:03:17 -0500 "WILTON" wrote: > M1 talc should take care of the K&E sticking prob. 'Haven't used mine > in so long, I've probably forgotten how. I haven't used mine in quite a long time (it was a college graduation present!). I can do the basics, but I cannot put all of its

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
My thoughts, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Not usually in Maine. On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Only a

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
That's good enough reason to buy my sewing pin nozzle adjusting TOOLS - 5 bucks plus shipping. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job,aligning nozzles with a magne

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Well, we were restricted to 270 knots IAS at low level (altitude) for years. I think any other "fix" for it may have been done during the 3 years I was off active duty, and I don't remember what it was. When I left G models at Robins, restriction was still on; when I came back to H models 3 yea

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Wow I am informed, I agree with all that Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:40 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > These clips from "The View" may be instructive: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmWzRzaYFw > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKid4Dwg7MA > > > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: [MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
M1 talc should take care of the K&E sticking prob. 'Haven't used mine in so long, I've probably forgotten how. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA My K&E

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Well, yes, that's another name we call 'em, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1 I believe the term is sewi

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will turn in all my guns and ammo if one person can come up with some facts as to how banning guns, passing more laws or having more restrictions would have prevented recent events. Only law abiding citizens follow the law. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wro

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I do not mean to offend anyone but I have very little patience or respect for somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:13 PM, OK Don wrote: > Two out of how many? Not too bad. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
These clips from "The View" may be instructive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmWzRzaYFw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKid4Dwg7MA -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:09 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Jon Agne
Not usually in Maine. On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:49 PM, WILTON wrote: > Only as a last resort. When thumbing through it looking at the pretty > pictures, one couldn't help but see the occasional WARNING: AT LOW ALTITUDE > BE WARE OF POSSIBLE EXCESSIVE MOUNTAIN WAVE TURBULENCE ON DOWNWIND SIDE OF

Re: [MBZ] Opinion: 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:06 PM, "Robert Koziak" wrote: > I am now going to look at a 2004 E320 4matic 70K. It's a two owner vehicle > with one minor fender accident.. no frame issues. Opinions on this > car would again be greatly appreciated before I go for my first look Comments on t

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
You know, all kinds of OT things get addressed on this list, generally uncensored. I find it absolutely astounding that folks who are called "liberal" (look it up) think they have the right to censor anyone that doesn't agree with them. Seriously, if the anti-gun folks have facts and data (not em

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread John Reames
Waitaminit! I just posted something referring to politicians today... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:22, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Out of curiosity I looked up the "rules of conduct" for Okiebenz: > > "This is the replacement t

Re: [MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread OK Don
Two out of how many? Not too bad. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Oh well > > dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. > > walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. > > > > __**_ > http://www.okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Mountain Man
Greg wrote: > I strongly believe in open and fair discussion on the course our nation has > taken and should take. I do not believe that silencing one side of a > discussion has a place in a democracy. Shall I let Kaleb ban me right now? - go ahead. I want to know that place of which you speak -

[MBZ] Opinion: 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic

2013-01-15 Thread Robert Koziak
Hi, I want to thank you guys for the feedback on the 1999 E320 4matic (90K) I was considering. I passed on the car after getting a mechanic to check it out. It needed the 4 tires I knew about plus all 4 brakes. The climate control screen was cracked and the zenon headlight was cracked

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread OK Don
It's a TOOL - you don't need an other reason to buy it! On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: > This is tempting http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/**Hazet-4850-1-washer-nozzle-* > *adjusting-tool-w-magnet-/**200873265517#shId

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
Wilton, Tell them how the USAF modified the airplane to reduce the structural loads. I think all those with an aviation perspective will find it amusing. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:

[MBZ] OT Slide Rules, was - GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread OK Don
My K&E 4080-3 still swells in humid weather and sticks. It works fine in dry weather. Will Mobil1 cure this problem? Also, the top rail of the hair-line holder has cracked in two places and the pressure spring is broken. Where can I get spare parts? This is my apocalypse calculator, since I've lost

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread Hendrik and fay
I believe the term is sewing pins. Hendrik who bought the PROPER tool On 16/01/13 11:08, WILTON wrote: Just buy coupla my nozzle adjusting tools (seamstresses and I call 'em "straight pins") - 5 bucks plus shipping. ;<) BTW, what do you mates call 'em? Wilton

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-15 Thread Mountain Man
OK wrote: > Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- I didn't either, but the okiebenz approval process had a 9-day problem of approving the attachment. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To sear

[MBZ] They took their ball and when home

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh well dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes. walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsub

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Only as a last resort. When thumbing through it looking at the pretty pictures, one couldn't help but see the occasional WARNING: AT LOW ALTITUDE BE WARE OF POSSIBLE EXCESSIVE MOUNTAIN WAVE TURBULENCE ON DOWNWIND SIDE OF MOUNTAINS!!;<) BTW, such turbulence can also occur at higher altitu

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Just buy coupla my nozzle adjusting tools (seamstresses and I call 'em "straight pins") - 5 bucks plus shipping. ;<) BTW, what do you mates call 'em? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:57 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Hendrik and fay
WHAT??? You read the manual?? Hendrik who must confess that he has read a manual or two On 16/01/13 08:19, WILTON wrote: Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton __

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread Hendrik and fay
This is tempting http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hazet-4850-1-washer-nozzle-adjusting-tool-w-magnet-/200873265517#shId The problem with some of these make do set ups is that the pin can break off, especially if the nozzle is a tad seized. Hendrik who is trying to justify the purchase, ahh hang on it

[MBZ] Fwd: OT Shoes te7y6e3e

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
Grr. Rick Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Rick Knoble > Date: January 15, 2013 5:50:03 PM CST > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:34 PM, "Donald Snook" wrote: > >> Rich wrote: "I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: wild south RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Hendrik and fay
That's why I said "semi civilised". Hendrik who found a hole in the exhaust system and no not the one on the end On 16/01/13 01:23, Gerry Archer wrote: Does that include Tasmania? I thought Tasmania was sort of Wild West? Gerry On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: My qu

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's

[MBZ] OT: The Haircut (political humor)

2013-01-15 Thread John Reames
THE HAIRCUT Blessed are those that can give without remembering, and take without forgetting. One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money from you, I'm doing community service this week.' The florist was

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, G Mann wrote: > http://www.froglube.com/roothome.htm > > Absolutely the best lubricant for the application you seek. I'm sure there > are Mercedes Diesel uses for it also.. I will continue to explore them. > Since it both lubricates and rejects water AND dust it

Re: [MBZ] ignition switch wires on 1984 300D turbo and other problem

2013-01-15 Thread Tim C
Can't say it is your problem, but I had the radio and wipers fail at the same time. It was a single fuse, and I remember that it was labeled oddly - neither radio nor wipers. I don't remember if there was any other symptom. Could be wiring but if you have a sheet of spares it might be worth swap

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Donald Snook
Rick wrote: "Have you scrounged any Frye or Stewarts boots yet?" I wasn't looking for boots. But, if I find any, I'll let you know OFF LIST. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote: "I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list." You are probably right. I am not planning to inundate the list with Ebay listings of shoes. I just sent the one. PLUS, I did label it OT (for Off Topic). :) Donald H. Snook ___ http://w

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > << We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics...>> > > Fair enough. At the time that I posted the link I was not aware of this. > If I am moved at any time in the future to share such items I will restrict > such postings to Banned.

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Craig
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:11:39 -0500 "Gerry Archer" wrote: > ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine - > Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. > Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so > violently that he couldn't read the gauges. Pulling back on the

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
<< We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics...>> Fair enough. At the time that I posted the link I was not aware of this. If I am moved at any time in the future to share such items I will restrict such postings to Banned. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Randy Bennell
On 15/01/2013 11:38 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff. We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics, and no cursing. No written rules, that I am aware of. We should p

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" > wrote: > > > Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT > stuff. > After-the-fact Kaleb can ban (and has). He doesn't proactively ban people who might cause proble

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM, G Mann wrote: > -Who always keeps spare boots and socks as part of his first aid bug out > bag in the trunk- > I keep a change of work clothes (somewhat too big*) in a vacuum storage bag in the trunk, and also a pair of old sneakers. Good for when I need to do

Re: [MBZ] ignition switch wires on 1984 300D turbo and other problem

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
It's hard to know when the wipers quit because i didn't try them after messing with the ignition switch . we went right on to the engine mount i think the engine mount exchange caused little disturbance to very much i only did the driver's side it had been soaked with leaking ATF

[MBZ] '93 500e on Portland CL

2013-01-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
You don't see these too often. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3536505834.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:08 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > All those silly creases and curves What where they thinking? Creases add strength to otherwise flat panels...? Rick Trying to think like an engineer and not a marketing consultant. Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Donald Snook" wrote: > Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just > be a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy. Have you scrounged any Frye or Stewarts boots yet? Rick Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread G Mann
http://www.froglube.com/roothome.htm Absolutely the best lubricant for the application you seek. I'm sure there are Mercedes Diesel uses for it also.. I will continue to explore them. Since it both lubricates and rejects water AND dust it seems it might be the lubricant of choice for door locks an

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff. We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics, and no cursing. No written rules, that I am aware of. We should probably add to that agreement, no attachmen

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "G Mann" wrote: > Grant... > -Waiting to hurl invectives and eat young kittens while being assaulted by > my equals while wearing big boy pants- Sign up here then. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com Pretty tame lately. Rick Sent from

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "G Mann" wrote: > Someone please explain exactly how I can identify which list I am > responding to. Re: [MBZ] As opposed to Re: [Banned] Sorry if that was a rhetorical question. I answer those sometimes... You have to sign up for "Banned". There are some inter

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
. slide rule? None; use baby powder, or appropriate talc not so heavily perfumed. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA I haven't met anyone on either side o

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Jim Cathey
I haven't met anyone on either side of the fence that will change their mind on the issue so debating seems pointless. Fanatic: One who won't change his mind and can't change the subject. Well, I _can_ change the subject, at least! What kind of oil should I use on the slide of my ... :-) --

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff. --R On 1/15/13 10:58 AM, G Mann wrote: Well.. actually, it does. When your Mercedes is broken, what do you have to use? Your Shoes. Think.. Ultimate Spare Tire. Out of fuel, Shoes. Spare tire flat, Shoes. Won't start in a remote location

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread G Mann
Well.. actually, it does. When your Mercedes is broken, what do you have to use? Your Shoes. Think.. Ultimate Spare Tire. Out of fuel, Shoes. Spare tire flat, Shoes. Won't start in a remote location with no phone service, Shoes again... Just saying... for those of us who think further outside the

Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a 4850-1

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
My nozzle adjusting tool (straight pin) has always worked great on the 4 MB's that I've had. 'Glad to send anybody one, or even 2, for 5 bucks plus shipping. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:32 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
lol Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion Lis

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Chris James
See you have some bids already, good luck! On 1/15/2013 9:47 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Nothing terribly wild about Tasmania. Hobart is the biggest city and is quite modern. It's the "jumping off" port for most of the Antarctic expeditions. I believe there are only about a half a million people there in total. Dan On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:53 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Does that in

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread G Mann
Someone please explain exactly how I can identify which list I am responding to. Notice that there is NO identifying information in the email headers that says "Banned List Message, cursing and eating of young permitted" .. or.. "Only politic correct comments and Mercedes discussions [except oil a

Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list. --R On 1/15/13 9:47 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just be a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy. Here are the listings if anyone needs some dress shoes. http

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sounds like you are quoting the banned page Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:22 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Out of curiosity I looked up the "rules of conduct" for Okiebenz: > > "This is the replacement to the mbz.org banned list. The original banned > list was started in 1999 because

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Gerry Archer
Does that include Tasmania? I thought Tasmania was sort of Wild West? Gerry On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a website where you can sign up to support gun control? Anyway whatever happens it's nothin

[MBZ] OT Shoes

2013-01-15 Thread Donald Snook
Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just be a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy. Here are the listings if anyone needs some dress shoes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bostonian-beautiful-Oxfords-Cordovan-and-Black-mens-11-made-in-Italy-/170974941199?p

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: I personally believe most of the "Swoopy" built into cars currently is for marketing more than anything else. If it looks a certain way, you must be saving money on gas, school of engineered marketing. On par with the marketing of the 50's and 60's when you could "Hear the power"

Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Brian Toscano
I would probably ignore it. I haven't met anyone on either side of the fence that will change their mind on the issue so debating seems pointless. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: > My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a > website where y

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > By George, you're right. I looked at the address: www.okiebenz.com/lists/ > and assumed it applied to all the lists. Careless of me; sorry. That was > the only rul

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-15 Thread dseretakis
It's ugly and does indeed look hyundai-esque. All those silly creases and curves What where they thinking? Audis have much nicer and cleaner designs. Look at the gorgeous A7. Mercedes nowadays is just one giant disappointment. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Chris James

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- It downloaded while I was away from the computer, but IMO it should have been saved on Kaleb's server and a link inserted in the email. What happened with the digest subscribers? Mitch. __

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Gerry Archer
By George, you're right. I looked at the address: www.okiebenz.com/lists/ and assumed it applied to all the lists. Careless of me; sorry. That was the only rules list I saw. Is there no rules list for the Mercedes list? Gerry From: "Dan Penoff" Gerry, I would respectfully submit that you

[MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Gerry Archer
ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine - Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so violently that he couldn't read the gauges. Pulling back on the yoke and pushing forward on the throttle, he tried to fly out

Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Gerry, I would respectfully submit that you appear to be reading the description for the Okiebenz Banned list, not this list. Dan also a founding member of the original Banned and R/E list On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:22 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > Out of curiosity I looked up the "rules of conduct" f

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-15 Thread Max Dillon
No sound for me, viewed on my Motorola RAZR Maxx. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 OK Don wrote: >Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't --- > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.

[MBZ] OT: RKBA

2013-01-15 Thread Gerry Archer
Out of curiosity I looked up the "rules of conduct" for Okiebenz: "This is the replacement to the mbz.org banned list. The original banned list was started in 1999 because many of the core MB list folks were banned from various other lists for many different reasons, some valid and some not. We a

Re: [MBZ] Skiing

2013-01-15 Thread John Reames
Didn't Sunny (Bono) try that stunt? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:22, Mike Esh wrote: > No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there. > Rehab was exercising the back muscles that were still attac

Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

2013-01-15 Thread Fmiser
> > OK Don wrote: > > > > I was asking if there was any negative effect on > > one of the list members - > Rick Knoble wrote: > > Probably Philip, who originally asked for the cap to be > raised. Oops. *weak smile* A link would have been nice... -- Philip __

Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

2013-01-15 Thread Fmiser
> G Mann wrote: > Some wind tunnel data I've seen, which came out of Wright > Patterson so I tend to believe it, says below 50 MPH drag > force on a car is not really a factor. Certainly, in rush > hour, start stop, it is not, At sustained speed above 50 MPH > the drag factor increases with speed