Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-03 Thread John Reames
Perhaps, but not much less expensive; the perch includes a piece of frame rail and requires something like 40 /structural/ rivets to secure it into the car. Plan on an alignment, as everything on that side must be stripped. I think I paid $3k for mine. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net

Re: [MBZ] What of the W140?

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Having researched this significantly, the W140 can be a wonderful car and no worse or better than any other luxury car of its vintage as long as you do your due diligence. The two big ticket items, typically dealt with long ago, are the deteriorating engine wiring harness and the infamous AC

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
Not true in Chitkagoh. Stay at any stop light controlled intersection during peak traffic times and you will see 2-6 cars go through or finish going through the intersection after the light is red nearly every light cycle. I've seen more intersection accidents here with amber light times

Re: [MBZ] 300CD - New challenges

2013-05-03 Thread Mitch Haley
I'm a couple days late with this, but ATTABOY! Mitch. Dave wrote: It starts better now but still the miss when warm. I blasted the car with a pressure washer to remove the rest of the moss and scrubbed more oxidation off I was encouraged by Dan's finish restoration post. Next steps are a

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread John Reames
As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that maybe they should ban sports equipment (and perhaps dis-arm black belts?) Although a lacrosse stick didn't do much for a Loyola player at the Saturday Hopkins-Loyola game in Baltimore:

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I was thinking about the longevity, back in the day when a 240D was a 500,000 mile car a VW diesel was a 250,000 mile car but that was also when a gas car that went 100,000 miles was a great car. Today just about any gas car can go 200,000 miles with just normal maintenance so it seems

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The VW diesel wagon (Passat) used to list for around $17k. What do they cost now? On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I was thinking about the longevity, back in the day when a 240D was a 500,000 mile car a VW diesel was a 250,000 mile car but that was

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Well thats odd. Fueleconomy.gov gives the Passat a 1mpg edge. Both are 2l though, same engine? I prefer a manual trans in general. I've driven Ford's version of the DSG and while I'm sure VW's is better its still just an automatic. Not sure I need any more space in a car and I surely don't

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Where do I get my absentee ballots to stuff? On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Sanford. If there are no good candidates elect a clown-politician. Might as well enjoy their antics. Remember Adam Clayton Powell? As one of his constituent said, That

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, I had a warm goop shower. Felt REAL nice! Both accumulators were changed recently (last couple of years). I am beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over potholes and there is nothing

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yeah, I had a warm goop shower. Felt REAL nice! Both accumulators were changed recently (last couple of years). I am beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over

[MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over potholes and there is nothing else to blame. Any way to test their resiliency (if that's the word)? I rebuilt one of mine that was leaking, and

Re: [MBZ] What of the W140?

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
One thing I have noticed is that car maintenance is generally proportional to the sticker price, whether DIY or Indy or stealer. A 124 is more expensive to maintain than a 123. A 126 is more expensive to maintain than a 124 a 140 is more expensive to maintain than a 126 This is of course

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Those things sometimes snap quite easily. One of my son's teammates had a titanium shaft break into three pieces when he checked another player. Not cheap, but kinda brittle. --R On 5/3/13 8:58 AM, John Reames wrote: As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You might be too melanin-challenged to do that here --R On 5/3/13 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Where do I get my absentee ballots to stuff? On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Sanford. If there are no good candidates elect a clown-politician.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that maybe they should ban sports equipment (and perhaps dis-arm black belts?) How may people have union thugs beat with baseball bats? along with hammers, machetes, and the stuff already listed, We should ban Baseball bats,

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Not much lists for $17k anymore, Ford Fiesta maybe. The base Jetta TDI I was looking at was $23k, Passat TDI starts at about $3k more, Jetta wagon TDI is about $25k. Those are all base prices but there aren't many options really, sunroof, DSG, premium sound system... -Curt Date: Fri, 3 May

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I recall a mis-matched set of used and new accumulators going in. Can't recall how many years ago it was. The advice of the list (as I remember) was that the used accumulator would shorten the life of the new one. I'm thinking thats the case here... -Curt Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 09:33:00 -0400

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I could photoshop my thumb print. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You might be too melanin-challenged to do that here --R On 5/3/13 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Where do I get my absentee ballots to stuff? On Thu, May 2,

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
oh cr*ap. I wanted to buy some new toys. I am running out of options. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any cushioning going over

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Base 5-hole Focus $16k give or take. --R On 5/3/13 10:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Not much lists for $17k anymore, Ford Fiesta maybe. The base Jetta TDI I was looking at was $23k, Passat TDI starts at about $3k more, Jetta wagon TDI is about $25k. Those are all base prices but there aren't

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
No you gots to have a gummint-issued ID now to disenfranchise you. --R On 5/3/13 10:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I could photoshop my thumb print. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You might be too melanin-challenged to do that

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
By living in D.C. I am pre-disenfranchised and need a place to cast a meaningful ballot. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: No you gots to have a gummint-issued ID now to disenfranchise you. --R On 5/3/13 10:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My gf has a 2008 Focus. Sweet little car. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Base 5-hole Focus $16k give or take. --R On 5/3/13 10:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Not much lists for $17k anymore, Ford Fiesta maybe. The base Jetta TDI

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Ha. So I may need another set of two NEW accumulators that bond with each other from inception (litter mates). This high maintenance cr*p is going to get expensive. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I recall a mis-matched set of used and new

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
So you are saying they are rebuildable? I thought they were crimped shut. Tell us more... Dan On May 3, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: beginning to wonder whether the hydropneumatic struts themselves are the problem. They don't leak, but I am not getting any

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread ernest breakfield
there's a lot more electronics in a TDI than that zero electronics in a 240D. based on what i've seen of build quality and sensor failures in the fleet of TDIs running around here, i don't have any expectations that it would be as cheap or easy to run a TDI a half-million miles like what

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:26:51 -0700 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: there's a lot more electronics in a TDI than that zero electronics in a 240D. A 240D does not have zero electronics, but the comparison does still hold. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
A ballot cast here for either of the clowns will be meaningless. On another note, the boards for various colleges were recently up for new members, one of which was the Medical University (MUSC), which is something like 58% women students and many women faculty and staff. One woman on the

Re: [MBZ] wagon rear suspension (was Re: Hammers)

2013-05-03 Thread David Bruckmann
The self-levelling system requires a base pressure to function. I believe the function is described in 32-501. Typically the base pressure valve (integral to the levelling valve but not adjustable/influenced by the position of the lever) will weaken and you'll have insufficient pressure in

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
The struts provide no spring action, because there is no energy storage medium inside (unless full of air, and it went in at atmospheric pressure and would be compressed to minuscule dimensions by the base pressure). The leak holes in the strut's interior piston provide the bulk of the damping,

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey
another set of two NEW accumulators If one goes 'flat' that doubles the pressure in the other one, which will beat the crap out of it in no time. Hence equal pairs. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Jim, Thanks for the information - it is quite helpful! I have never had to RR a hydraulic strut, so I wasn't aware that they could be disassembled. Where did you source the parts for it? Thanks, Dan On May 3, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The struts provide no

[MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am having four new 195X14 Kumho all season H rated tires installed on bundt alloys (rims) that I personally refinished (painted with Wurth silver and clear coated) for my 1985 diamond blue 300TD. I will probably be selling the four old but decent Michelins (2006 vintage) plus the bundts they

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Frederick Moir
3   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS]

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread ernest breakfield
really? what electronics are there in the powertrain of a 240D? cheers! e On 03/May/13 08:44, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:26:51 -0700 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: there's a lot more electronics in a TDI than that zero electronics in a 240D. A 240D

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Electronic trap door for driver to boost speed with foot power when ascending steep hills. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:29 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: really? what electronics are there in the powertrain of a 240D? cheers! e On 03/May/13 08:44, Craig

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread dseretakis
Why are you trading down to Kumhos? Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am having four new 195X14 Kumho all season H rated tires installed on bundt alloys (rims) that I personally refinished (painted with Wurth silver and clear

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread ernest breakfield
palm slaps forehead dang; forgot about that!:-) seriously, does the starter count? i don't recall if the 240D lasted long enough to be plagued with the same fuel pressure regulator that's on the FI pumps of the '85 617s,.. and i honestly don't remember ever seeing a 240D that

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What's wrong with them? They are rated highly by TahrRack. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you trading down to Kumhos? Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am having four new 195X14 Kumho

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
Voltage regulator, glow relay ABS on 85 123s Not power train, but radio really? what electronics are there in the powertrain of a 240D? cheers! e On 03/May/13 08:44, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:26:51 -0700 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: there's a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
Just think of it as a speed tax. If you want to go fast, you have to pay. That was standard terminology at the old speed shops. How much $ depended on how fast you wanted to do. Randy On 02/05/2013 9:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Nope. Not until a camera gets on the stand and testifies. In the US

Re: [MBZ] OT:Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
The speed laws are there to provide some protection to the driving public. We are not prepared to ban a lot of people with doubtful abilities and we do not do enough to train drivers and to re-train and re-test periodically, so we need to have limits low enough that we can survive some of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I hate it when criminals try to blame everything on high taxes. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Just think of it as a speed tax. If you want to go fast, you have to pay. That was standard terminology at the old speed shops. How much $ depended on how

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/05/2013 10:44 AM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:26:51 -0700 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: there's a lot more electronics in a TDI than that zero electronics in a 240D. A 240D does not have zero electronics, but the comparison does still hold. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
Ok, I give up. I don't understand that response at all. Randy On 03/05/2013 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I hate it when criminals try to blame everything on high taxes. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Just think of it as a speed tax. If you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sorry! I meant to say that speeders claim that the speed traps are merely a guise to raise revenues from oppressed citizens, and as such are a hidden tax. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, I give up. I don't understand that response at all. Randy

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread ernest breakfield
no ABS on our '85 300D; i've never seen or heard of one with ABS before this, though a quick look at Wikipedia claims that it was an option starting in 1980 300Ds (somewhere). not sure if that's an issue for us US'ers anyway; did they even sell a 240D here after 1983? OK, it's a stretch

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:46:29 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Voltage regulator, glow relay ABS on 85 123s Loren is correct for voltage regulator and glow plug relay. There are also the diodes in the alternator. You need all of these to be able to start and continue to run a 240D.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
Enforcing speeding laws would be IL's ticket out of debt. Interstate speed limits are 55mph while everyone goes at least 70-85. Imagine the revenue they could generate. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 5/3/2013 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Sorry!

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe there is a timer circuit in the hazard relay as well. Dan On May 3, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:46:29 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Voltage regulator, glow relay ABS on 85 123s Loren is correct for voltage regulator

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Scott Ritchey
Just a thought, but is it possible for the hoses to fail (like brake hoses can) to block flow? Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or lights. My first Benz, '83 300SD, had the regulator go bad around dusk during a trip from AR to KS. We spent the night at a motel, called the Kansas City

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES ANDGATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think we need to consider the real purpose of government. Is it to keep us safe or to keep us free? The two conflict quite a bit. Ron Paul recently said: Sadly, we have been conditioned to believe that the job of the government is to keep us safe, but in reality the job of the government

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yep. I had t to replace one when I started hemorrhaging SLS fluid. They aren't especially cheap, either... On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Just a thought, but is it possible for the hoses to fail (like brake hoses can) to block flow? Scott

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a progressive tax code, rather than burdening those who can least afford to pay these fines, as a means of shouldering the cost of governing. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Enforcing

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread G Mann
We the People in Arizona forced the speed cameras to be removed. Rampant fraud was part of the reason. The other part was the loss of Constitutional Right to face our accuser. Vote early Vote often.. it can work. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am having four new 195X14 Kumho all season H rated tires installed on bundt alloys (rims) that I personally refinished (painted with Wurth silver and clear coated) for my 1985 diamond blue 300TD. Attaboy. I will probably be selling the four old but decent Michelins

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES ANDGATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:29:14 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think we need to consider the real purpose of government. Is it to keep us safe or to keep us free? The two conflict quite a bit. The preamble of the U.S. Constitution says, We the People of the United

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES ANDGATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sounds good to me. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:29:14 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think we need to consider the real purpose of government. Is it to keep us safe or to keep us free? The two conflict

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
IME = ?? Should I get the shop to tear down the old wheels and separate the tires? On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am having four new 195X14 Kumho all season H rated tires installed on bundt alloys (rims) that I personally

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
Why not enforce the laws that are already on the books instead of wasting time making new ones? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 5/3/2013 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a progressive tax code,

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 13:22:04 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or lights. Actually no, not wrong. If you want to CONTINUE to be able to start

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:45:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: IME = ?? In My Estimation Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
Which is why I said partially wrong :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 5/3/2013 1:50 PM, Craig wrote: Actually no, not wrong ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES ANDGATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:44:45 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good to me. Too bad we have not stayed at only that. Craig On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:29:14 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Maybe there is a need to change? Maybe the old laws have outlived their relevance or usefulness. Maybe there is a new problem that needs to be addressed. Lots of reasons. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Why not enforce the laws that are already on the

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 3, 2013 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with them? They are rated highly by TahrRack. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you trading down to Kumhos? Dimitri has an irrational hatred of all Korean technology.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
It is not a hidden tax as we all know we can be caught if we drive faster than the posted limits. It is not a certain tax. Most of the time we get away with it. Sometimes we get caught and have to pay up. Randy On 03/05/2013 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Sorry! I meant to say that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
Those who can least afford to pay fines, should be among the most careful drivers in order to avoid having to pay the fines. Randy On 03/05/2013 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a progressive tax code, rather than burdening

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Ah, the voice of reason. Plentiful north of the border but in woefully short supply in the USA at the moment... On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: It is not a hidden tax as we all know we can be caught if we drive faster than the posted limits. It is

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Haha. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On May 3, 2013 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with them? They are rated highly by TahrRack. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 3, 2013 11:50 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: You are correct, though, that once a 240D is started it will continue to run without electricity. I don't know if that is true for more modern diesels Probably a simple inverse function. The more modern they get, the worse they

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
We are working on it in Florida. There is a guy over in St. Pete who has done a fantastic job refuting all the government claims about their advantages, yet they still voted them in against the wishes of their constituents. A local DA has received something like 4-5 red light camera tickets and

[MBZ] mercedes wheels tires

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Andrew why not just sell the wheels tires locally on craigslist i'd expect there would be takers at $100/ pair then no shipping thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread G. M. Brown
Speed trap: I-81 Wytheville, VA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] Fw: 1985 Mercedes 300TD Wagon - $700 (lexington)

2013-05-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Paatz? Not mine, etc.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@verizon.net To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:03 PM Subject: 1985 Mercedes 300TD Wagon - $700 (lexington) fred.s...@verizon.net has forwarded

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1985 Mercedes 300TD Wagon - $700 (lexington)

2013-05-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
And it has a blue interior! On May 3, 2013 4:15 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Paatz? Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@verizon.net To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding

2013-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell
Sadly, it is not all that common here either. Randy On 03/05/2013 2:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Ah, the voice of reason. Plentiful north of the border but in woefully short supply in the USA at the moment... On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: It

[MBZ] Fuel cost consumption

2013-05-03 Thread Max
Using discount fuel cards from local grocery chain, I save 20% on diesel. Filled my E300 with 22.8 gallons @ $3.22/gal. Car returned 27.3 mpg. Still smarts that diesel is more expensive than premium. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Re: [MBZ] Fuel cost consumption

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I have noticed that diesel doesn't seem to be coming down like gas. It's still close to $4/gallon around here while I paid $4.45/gallon for premium at Sam's yesterday. Dan On May 3, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Max wrote: Using discount fuel cards from local grocery chain, I save 20% on diesel.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Primaries

2013-05-03 Thread Max
How MUSC board members selected? Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A ballot cast here for either of the clowns will be meaningless. On another note, the boards for various colleges were recently up for new members, one of which was the Medical University (MUSC), which is

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
Enforcing speeding laws would be IL's ticket out of debt. Interstate speed limits are 55mph while everyone goes at least 70-85. Imagine the revenue they could generate. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) Its IL. THey money would never make it to the state

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
Just a thought, but is it possible for the hoses to fail (like brake hoses can) to block flow? Scott The spheres are hard line. I remember buying new hard lines for the 124 struts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Fuel cost consumption

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 17:31:07 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have noticed that diesel doesn't seem to be coming down like gas. It's still close to $4/gallon around here while I paid $4.45/gallon for premium at Sam's yesterday. So diesel is less than premium in your part of Florida?

Re: [MBZ] Struts

2013-05-03 Thread Max
IIRC Jim rebuilt a 126 strut. Recently on the MBCA forum a fellow posted a terrific step-by-step with pictures to rebuild a 123 strut. Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jim, Thanks for the information - it is quite helpful! I have never had to RR a hydraulic strut, so I wasn't aware that

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Max
Eat, swim, reproduce? Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: 3   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:45 PM Subject:

[MBZ] Fw: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list

2013-05-03 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: Darren Marshall To: WILTON Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list Thank you sir, appreciate the nudge. I recently had a 78 240d hauled in from Oregon (to Chicago), super clean-- brakes are just locked up, and

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Eat, eliminate and reproduce. Basics.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread WILTON
Did da boy doc get one yet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned Base 5-hole Focus $16k give or take.

Re: [MBZ] Trying to get on the Okiebenz list

2013-05-03 Thread WILTON
For parts, call Trent at BuyMBParts, 800-741-5252. Wilton - Original Message - From: Darren Marshall To: WILTON Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list Thank you sir, appreciate the nudge. I recently had a 78 240d hauled in

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 May 2013 17:44:04 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Darren Marshall To: WILTON Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list Thank you sir, appreciate the nudge. I recently had a 78 240d

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES ANDGATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread G Mann
You ask, I answer, tempered with a very old school education during which study of the history of the formation of our government and the Constitution was a required course of study over 12 years. As founded and as intended, [study Federalist papers for legislative intent of words used to write

Re: [MBZ] Forgive me for I have sinned

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 14:13:40 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I believe there is a timer circuit in the hazard relay as well. Yes, that seems logical. But it, along with the radio, is not necessary for continued starting and running. Craig On May 3, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Max
Different fluids (oil here vs brake fluid), so I'm skeptical, but I did replace hoses with accumulators on both my wagons. Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Just a thought, but is it possible for the hoses to fail (like brake hoses can) to block flow? Scott -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Fuel cost consumption

2013-05-03 Thread WILTON
Yep, sorta upsetting to hafta pay $4 for a gallon of ten-cent fuel. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel cost consumption Using discount fuel

Re: [MBZ] Fuel cost consumption

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 3, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Still smarts that diesel is more expensive than premium Around here regular is $3.85 and tax exempt diesel is $3.57. I have found one or two fuel stations that sell tax exempt diesel to passenger cars. Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] W123 Tahrs and Bundts 4 sale

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 3, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri has an irrational hatred of all Korean technology. Dimitri has a dislike for ALL Asian technology, I think. I have read his rants against Toyotas luxury transportation appliance division. Rick Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue

2013-05-03 Thread Max
No. Those of us outside the beltway and who have been taught critical thinking call that income redistribution aka stealing. Done in the name of government doesn't change the morality of it. Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through

Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: A classmate of mine in college who was an extremely gifted artist killed his mother with a hammer over one of the breaks. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: When I was in

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