Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Fmiser
> > On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > > > But there is a > > reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except > > where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw. > Rick wrote: > > Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, > etc. any m

Re: [MBZ] memory of the missing

2013-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the > replacement of the RF tire (Bridgestone DW, new last fall, now with a > blown > out sidewall) > Continental DW. From Tire rack. I hate Contis but these are very different. RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you. > Gerry... > Thank you, Red Green. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery o

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:36:04 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Is it possible to remove the clutch and fan, leaving only the water > >pump, so you can run the engine and see if the water pump is the > >problem? > > > >Craig > > Done. It is the fan. Don't want it to go through the

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Is it possible to replace the bearings on the fan clutch? I did on a 450 engine's clutch that is now in the Frankenheap. It looked particularly rebuildable, which is why I dug into it. After I finished I figured out that it was not thermostatic, and only RPM-driven. Not really what I wanted. h

Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:44:47 -0400 "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you. > Gerry Yes, indeed. Craig Who is recovering from neck surgery in March. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

2013-05-14 Thread Gerry Archer
Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you. Gerry From: Ditto. Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the C-class sooner rather than later. What's the point of life, after all, if you can't mess around with old cars? Alex.. Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My firs

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
where the sensor/amp lives. No sensor, no amp. It vampires off of the ignition signal. You _need_ a car schematic! There are ones in Haynes, if nowhere else. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water pump is on the other

Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

2013-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
> Ditto.  Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the > C-class > sooner rather than later.  What's the point of life, after all, if you > can't mess around with old cars? > > Alex.. > Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the replacement of the RF tire

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Yes, just take the bolt out of the center. If you loosen the belt (easy on a 603) you can tell if the water pump is bad. Usually leaks if the bearings are out of it though. If the fan clutch rattles, replace it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For ne

Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
> Sorry to hear about the problems, but glad to hear that you made it > through. The more I hear about hospital experiences, the more I think that > we have great medical care in this country, if they don't kill you first. > > -- > OK Don.. > Thank you for the kind thoughts. Today was to be t

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: > Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix > the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water > pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water > pump is on the

Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Nope, totally different design. If a replacement clutch doesn't fix the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water pump on the diesels. On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water pump is on the other side. Peter ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
Mine since Oct '55. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mountain Man" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on Randy wrote: My father has been gone since August 1983. My father has been gone since Aug

[MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
Alles, The fan on one of my 603s is getting noisy. I found a clutch and fan from an M104 3 Liter gasser. I am wondering if the fan and clutch will work reasonably well on the 3 liter Diesel. That is Q1. The second question is: Is it possible to replace the bearings on the fan clutch? I

Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-14 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 14, 2013, at 4:35 PM, "Darren Marshall" wrote: > Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no questions > asked. Will be sending a return label with to send the crap one back... > wish me luck! Needless to say, closely inspect all threads, and chase them if need be.

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
Where I've seen them forbidden its because of fire danger, not nanny state, or less because of nanny state anyway. -Curt If they'd sho ot Smokey da bear, and let fires burn naturally, they would not have such fire hazards. (big fan of controlled burns. Been doing it since before the ter

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Where I've seen them forbidden its because of fire danger, not nanny state, or less because of nanny state anyway. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:57:31 -0500 From: Rick Knoble To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-asc

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
You're right about the fireplace but yours is also built poorly. In a tight modern house you need a source of makeup air, this should not be leaving a window open, thats silly. There should be an air inlet just below the fireplace opening which allows outside air in a controlled manner. There a

Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

2013-05-14 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: > My father has been gone since August 1983. My father has been gone since August 1983 also, fwiw... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscri

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Max
Thanks guys, learn something everyday! Now hopefully Clay's malfunctioning tachometer will yield and succumb to repair. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >Hm, yes it does. > >And heres the proof they're talking about the speedo: >http://www

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir
Soprano in the making?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Andrew Strasfogel >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:15 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw > > >What about a tyro? > >On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Frederick

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Allan Streib
Reminds me of how wood keeps you warm: Warms you when you cut it Warms you when you split it Warms you when you stack it Warms you when you haul it Warms you when you (finally) burn it. Dan Penoff writes: > Dan story: > > When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Hm, yes it does. And heres the proof they're talking about the speedo: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-259.pdf So, in these old manuals: - Tachometer = Speedometer - Revolution Counter = Tachometer Lets look at this again, this time the ETM: http://www.start

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
Supplemental: Since the transducer is near the flex disk, I'm sure it's the transmission output signal (speed) not, engine RPM. Here's an excerpt from a gasser ETM which shows the tach signal coming from the ignition circuit: http://Pt709.synology.me/tach.jpg -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw - operator age

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
I started cutting wood with an old 40s vintage Mc Collough that weighed close to 30 lb. I was probably 12 or 14 then. At first the saw was almost as big as me. Cut a lot of oak firewood with that. Paid for my first car hauling firewood with a 47 chevy truck. Once you got the saw on the limb

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
You know, this looks and reads suspiciously like the speedo, not the tach. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp Er, that sh

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 May 2013 19:10:12 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission. Right. That's OK, Jaime, we all have our off days. For me, there have been a lot of them lately. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission. Right. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its > actually different and more complicated. See this: > http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/

Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
nother un. Diesel content. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi5DPg_iEYs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://m

Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its actually different and more complicated. See this: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions on how to test it. Goo

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw - operator age

2013-05-14 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore
At 01:12 AM 5/14/2013, Rick Hawkins wrote: THe best chainsaw that i ever had was an old Poulan pulpwooder's saw, (snip) It was a bear to start or even to pick up, to drop while holding the starter cord to start it. I could do it fine from age 25 to 35, but i don't know

Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
'Nother goodun. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device! http://youtu.be/9nRqbQr7VGk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For ne

Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
Now, that's a goodun; I need of 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry T" To: "Porsche Forum" <9...@reutterwerk.org>; ; ; "Ferrari" ; "Mrs. Kinsey" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player

Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
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[MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread Larry T
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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Max
Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the distributor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay wrote: >Froggy is not behaving. But, then again, since when has she? > >When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relati

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What about a tyro? On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: > Adze for logging? > They were used to help build the Mayflower replica. Used by holding the > butt end at crotch level and moving the cutting edge up and down in a > controlled manner. A skilled artisan can give wood a sm

Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
'Hope it goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Darren Marshall" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no questions asked.

Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-14 Thread Darren Marshall
Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no questions asked. Will be sending a return label with to send the crap one back... wish me luck! Darren 312-208-4328 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Buymbparts wrote: > Yes he would. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 11, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir
Adze for logging? They were used to help build the Mayflower replica. Used by holding the butt end at crotch level and moving the cutting edge up and down in a controlled manner. A skilled artisan can give wood a smoother finish than a plane.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. >_

Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir
Remember.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: clay >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:46 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors > > >Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day >s

Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell
Not much you can do for them but hopefully, your good memories will help you deal with it. My father has been gone since August 1983. I cannot say that I have been inclined to think much about him on Father's Day but I do think of him often. My younger son (the mechanic) came roaring up to my g

Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Be mindful of the example he set for you and what you learned from him (or didn't). Share those thoughts with your nearest and dearest. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, WILTON wrote: > Continue to live by the good principles he/she taught you and tell others > about them when you get the chance

Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
Continue to live by the good principles he/she taught you and tell others about them when you get the chance. Wilton - Original Message - From: "clay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors Sorry your moth

Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread clay
Sorry your mother passed. I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day since my dad just passed two weeks ago. What do you do to honor a missing parent? clay On May 12, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote: > My Mom, passed, and I'm divorced, Girlfriend is with her Mom, It's quite, > Life

[MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread clay
Froggy is not behaving. But, then again, since when has she? When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relation to the engine speed. It would then either pet out or not move at all. Smack the tach face and it might respond. I knew it was either the amp or the gauge, so sou

Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
No, the '06 one; 'reason for the new one. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "clay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel Not the one he just got!?! clay On May 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, WILTON wrote: Lucky not to hit

Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-14 Thread clay
Not the one he just got!?! clay On May 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, WILTON wrote: > Lucky not to hit a deer. #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3 > weeks ago. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Rick Hawkins Java" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM > Subject: [

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Dan - what did you use the adze for (other than snagging a nice score at Scrabble)? I was taught that the adze is an extremely dangerous tool, since you straddle the log while swinging the blade between your legs. One sideways deflection and it cuts into a leg. Andrew On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:5

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, "Fmiser" wrote: > But there is a > reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except > where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw. Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc. any more stupid ideas. Rick Sent fr

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell
My experience with a nice wood fireplace is that you lose more heat than you gain. We had one to start in our house and it was sort of nice to have a crackling fire with a bit of the smell of woodsmoke but we quickly realized we could not use it in really cold weather (when we most likely wou

[MBZ] Walnut shell, etc., blastring

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
Tim, do you know anybody in Triangle area who does walnut shell, soda, light sand blasting, etc., in preparation for painting iron/steel items. We have some steel patio furniture (circular table and 8 chairs) that needs painting; light rust should be removed before painting, of course. LIGHT s

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Fmiser
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker > teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Respectfully - no. If the logs are laid out, braced above the ground, and the cuts are just bucking - then a energetic pair could keep up with

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Andrew -- a secret Amish --R On 5/14/13 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Much less dangerous, plus it builds team spirit to operate. __

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
Good training! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw Dan story: When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn with an adjoining wooded plot t

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Dan Penoff
Dan story: When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn with an adjoining wooded plot that was around 7-8 acres. The house had a great room with a vaulted ceiling, and a fireplace made of stone that nearly filled one of the walls. Dad proclaimed when we moved in, "

[MBZ] ATE vs Bendix final chapter

2013-05-14 Thread B Dike
All, I was finally able to mount the Bendix caliper to replace the ATE on the 240D.   The rotor had expanded in diameter due to rust and heat deformation and was impinging on the caliper.  So I ground off the rust on the circumference of the rotor which relieved most of the interference except f

Re: [MBZ] deer in georgia

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Canfield
I had similar issues hunting them with my 12ga. Ford. Only ground burger left. Mike On May 13, 2013 6:42 PM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > Greg Fiorentino wrote: > > > > As with deer, I prefer to hit them with a Remington rather than a > > Benz. I've had some close calls (with a Volvo), but never actuall

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell
Well, depending on your inclination and the strength of your back, a good bowsaw will cut a lot of wood as well. Sometimes called a Swede Saw. My father worked in the bush as a young man and cut a lot of wood before chain saws became readily available. I am not sure I would like to follow in h

Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Much less dangerous, plus it builds team spirit to operate. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > > thanks, > Folks, > > THe best chainsaw that i ever had

Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: There is also a guy in SW WI who does 300 adenauers. That might be more your style. Different kind of 300d. Then there was Manfred P in Chacaga. He had a spare 600 most of the time. How to amass a small fortune: 1. Get a large fortune. 2. Buy an Adenauer or a Grosser (60

Re: [MBZ] 1982 - V8 300TD

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: There was a recent thread I saw somewhere, with photos, that showed a SBC V8 being transplanted into an MB. What a butcher job. They had to cut away way too much for my liking. Things like that should not be allowed on the road without some form of structural integrity test

Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted

2013-05-14 Thread Dieselhead
Clinton is only 35 min. away. What does Steve have? a business? Yes. Pelham Brothers does a lot of MB restoration. Steve used to work for Bickelhaupt Motors, who became a MB dealer because they were a studebaker dealer, way back when MB was first brought to the USA by Studebaker. It was a

Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
A pity; a loss for us all. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry T" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked You are correct - she died of cancer... Larry On 5/13/2013 9:46 PM, WILTON wrote: I thou

Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted

2013-05-14 Thread WILTON
'Thought you told me a few days ago you are south-oriented. 'Even using bassackward maps. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted Thank you, although once north

Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked

2013-05-14 Thread Larry T
You are correct - she died of cancer... Larry On 5/13/2013 9:46 PM, WILTON wrote: I thought she died; cancer, maybe. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked What's she

Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked

2013-05-14 Thread Dan Penoff
On May 13, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Yes, and she was as nice in real life as online. She cared about her >> > 280SE (i think it was) and about MBCA. She always had time for members >> > who didn't own the newest car. Unlike some of the other presiden

Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted

2013-05-14 Thread Hendrik and fay
Thank you, although once north of 35 or so they become less exciting and are a more of a reminder of ones mortality. Hendrik who is way north of 35 On 14/05/13 15:34, Max wrote: Happy birthday Hendrik! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go