Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:59:34 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Without the tool, I had to invent a way to do the same thing (get the pump in time) so I read a lot and thought about what has to be accomplished, then developed ways to do it without the expensive MB tools. You can

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:59:34 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Without the tool, I had to invent a way to do the same thing (get the > pump in time) so I read a lot and thought about what has to be > accomplished, then developed ways to do it without the expensive MB > tools. > > You

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
I have done many other things on my cars and I always enjoy the learning that takes place. I have little knowledge or experience with the injection pump and no one close by that could help me get through it the first time. I am learning more as we go from my mechanic and this forum. I will pr

Re: [MBZ] How Hot Is Too Hot?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:48:01 -0500 Rick Knoble wrote: > On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:38 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > > > >> It was running about 90C this past fall after I flushed the cooling > >> system. > > > > Is it hotter now than it was last fall when you benchmarked the 90C? > > Oh yes. Quite a bit h

Re: [MBZ] Great vid -- dwarf cars

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 23:02:58 -0700 G Mann wrote: > Very interesting, especially so now that I know I'm only a 45 minute > drive away from his place. > Road trip.. for sure.. 45 minutes? That's what it takes to get to Santa Fe or to our vet in Española from here. If you don't do that road trip, so

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:53:57 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > I got to literally sleep in a bed with inflight entertainment and > plenty of food/drink all the way over. It was a wonderful flight. A > little cramped, but still better than the business class seats. Sounds like it was even better than f

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:22:43 -0500 OK Don wrote: > Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if the > belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > > Could also be a slipping belt. Yes, there is supposed

Re: [MBZ] Mantle pressure lanterns - was: SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> > > Rich wrote about "SLS vid": > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > Oh.  Not about Self Leveling Suspension > Curt wrote: > > Thats what I thought too. > > BTW I managed to burn a hole through the generator in that *&^%$! > Mil-spec you trade

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:48:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > Allan Streib writes: > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/08/us/asiana-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 > > Wow That is really amazing, isn't it? There is a "sidebar" box for a video of an animation of the crash on the left side

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > > > Could also be a slipping belt. > OK wrote: > > Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if > the belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. Ah. On a 190D. I missed that first time through. I don't

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid rip off

2013-07-08 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah I want my money back as well. Hendrik who settled in with a nice cuppa, ready to learn all about SLS systems On 09/07/13 08:35, Fmiser wrote: Rich wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc Oh. Not about Self Leveling Suspension -- Philip __

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am sure most of the people on that plane would have rather got their bags and let the people behind them burn to death than give up their bags. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:29 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > I noticed that, too. I can hear it now, "Uh, uh, wait just a minute. Let me > g

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Bite the bullet. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? That nicely matches my theory and fits with why it takes a minute or so for the light to go out. I've got another battery

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Most people are generally stupid. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > What really gassed me when I saw the first photos of the surviving passengers > walking away from the wreckage was that many of them were pulling their carry > on luggage behind them! I would

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Drool drool. So just what does one of those go for? Gorgeous. Mike On Jul 7, 2013 1:30 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=haR2Q4JfWdc > > --R > > > > __**_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Wow Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Allan Streib writes: > >> Rick Knoble writes: >> >>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >>> I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes the ground and then d

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Heck with Wilton I bet even I could have landed it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Yeah, airspeed and altitude, that's the ticket. You run out of either one > and you are in a world of hurt. You got radar altimeters, baro altimeters, > GPS altimeters,

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bet Wilton could have landed that sum' biotch and he has never even flown a triple 7 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:21 AM, "WILTON" wrote: > Me, too, on both points - authority and dynamics. I think that in this case, > there was great lack of cockpit dynamics - everybody dozing

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Which ought to have an attendant screech shouldn't it? Remember this is a 190D, serpentine belt. Belt is quite new, maybe 6 mo. old. -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 18:42:00 -0500 From: Fmiser To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID: <20130708184200.7b853...@jasp

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Brian Toscano
Can also rap the wheel as you tighten. The resonance will change when its right. Put a dial indicator on it and should be spot on. On Monday, July 8, 2013, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott Ritchey wrote: >> >>> Yup. It's just enough movement to see detectable needle movement on

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
That nicely matches my theory and fits with why it takes a minute or so for the light to go out. I've got another battery (which is now that I think of it around 8 years old) I was thinking of putting in but I guess I should just bite the bullet and put in a new one before this one eats the alte

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats what I thought too. BTW I managed to burn a hole through the generator in that *&^%$! Mil-spec you traded me. ;) -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 18:05:37 -0500 From: Fmiser To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS vid Message-ID: <20130708180537.4fad3...@jasper.condray.lan> Content-T

Re: [MBZ] "Really need the moneingsy ive lowered the price once again"

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The word "unlovely" springs to mind,.. On Jul 8, 2013 8:35 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > I think they have it priced fairly > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/3920471229.html > > "must be towed home, needs TLC" > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and

[MBZ] "Really need the money ive lowered the price once again"

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
I think they have it priced fairly http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/3920471229.html "must be towed home, needs TLC" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Uns

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread OK Don
Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if the belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > Could also be a slipping belt. > > -- Philip > > -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C18

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate speed humps, spoon drains, etc!

2013-07-08 Thread OK Don
I thought Meiman (sp?) and the Finns were mounting them verticaly in the right front of the engine compartment. The only thing the bumper is protecting in the radiator - not you - it's not "safety" - On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Rolf wrote: > I went over a couple speed bumps for a test.

[MBZ] Who Farted Up the Elevator?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
http://www.muzak.com/products/scent Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinf

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
All of the trans-pacific flights I ever flew carried two full crews. I was flying to Schipol (Amsterdam) one time on a 747-400 in business class, as we always got to fly business class on any trip totaling more than 8 hours transit time, which meant anything overseas was business class. This wa

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> Peter wrote: > > How old is the battery? Since you don't have an ammeter (which > I greatly prefer over an idiot light) it's hard to tell, but I > suspect you are drawing lots of amps all the time charging a > battery that's dead. When the aux fan kicks in you don't have > enough juice. Could

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread G Mann
Far as I know, all trans-pacific flights use dual crews. The flight times exceed FAA allowable duty day, so crew 1 flys first leg, crew 2 replaces them somewhere mid pacific while crew 1 goes to crew rest compartment. The details will eventually come out in the FAA investigation. Bottom line.. tou

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: > One of the drawbacks of computerized control is that people become used to > it and forget the underlying functions, then don't comprehend when the > automated system is not functioning correctly. For sure!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com F

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: > Yeah, airspeed and altitude, that's the ticket. You run out of either one > and you are in a world of hurt. The Buffalo syndrome. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-08 Thread Larry T
I had a rebuilt AT from Rusty installed about 2 years ago - don't know if new bushings were installed at that time. But that might explain the AT not downshifting. Plus, in 2 years the bushings may have worn out... Have been unable to find anything in the WSM so far But MB has always been

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mountain Man
My son is interested in these things - he drives a lear35. flyingprofessors.net/what-happened-to-asiana-airlines-flight-214-2/ See if you can wade thru that. Seems to be somewhat thorough. may ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieb

[MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Gerry Archer
On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes the ground and then does a near 360 spin up into the air and then slams down again, it's a remarkable testament to the build quality of the 777 that it remained mostly in one

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread G Mann
If you put a load tester on the old battery, I'm betting it will show it is no longer capable of holding full charge when under load. Max AC puts load on battery, battery discharge rate is greater than it's now able to intake and hold charge, Alt output from regulator increases to try to make up t

Re: [MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> Rich wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc Oh. Not about Self Leveling Suspension -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubsc

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
They took care of me on the flight over and back too. I pretty much anesthetized myself for most of the 11 or 14 hours or whatever it was, both ways. I flew back to Houston from Tokyo, I might have stopped en route somewhere to change planes, I forget. Oh, I remember now too -- I was on a 74

Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Coupla times with my 123 and 126, I've had rattling shift linkage 'til I had new bushing installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry T" To: Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -) Hi

Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-08 Thread Larry T
Hi Gang - Is this a clue? Don't know if this is related to the Turbo/transmission problem but there's a rattle at steady throttle that seems to come from the gear shift area. Maybe a bushing is broken? Or the Kickdown cable Peter mentioned is possibly broken? Thx Larry On 7/8/2013 9:10 A

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
NWA was my airline of choice for many years, much because they did a better job taking care of their business passengers. In 8 years of almost weekly travel, I only had my bags lost/delayed once, and that wasn't the airlines fault (I got crosswise with an asshat Customs officer entering Canada

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
I've heard several comments on the luggage, and the one that really caught my attention is that it's possible the cabin crew asked them to haul it out. Reports are that the overhead compartments had come open and dumped it all out anyway, and the best way to get it out of the way is for pe

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
How old is the battery? Since you don't have an ammeter (which I greatly prefer over an idiot light) it's hard to tell, but I suspect you are drawing lots of amps all the time charging a battery that's dead. When the aux fan kicks in you don't have enough juice. Might check the aux fan to

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
En route to my assignment in Greenland in Feb '78, stopped by Colorado Springs to meet The General, have several days of briefings, etc. - no bag arrived with me; went through meeting with General, etc., in casual "civvies." General knew immediately what had happened; didn't seem to care; we g

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Somehow they were 34 knots under correct speed, applied power and did not re-gain speed, and had the stick shaker go off. As I said, something strange is going on here, I just don't believe everyone in the cockpit was napping on final approach, the pilot has put big planes on the ground ma

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Korean airline, not subject to FAA rules in terms of pilot training, etc except where they agree to it. Something was seriously wrong, the pilot flying the plane has landed 747's at SFO multiple times and there isn't THAT much difference between airframes on landing technique -- stay at the

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Lotta mighty lucky people. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? On 08/07/2013 10:04 AM, WILTON wrote: Just saying they didn't

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Yeah, if you're standing/waiting and the bag is right there, OK. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? WILTON wrote: I noticed t

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: The bags get there at like 9PM, everything is totally soaked, suits, shirts, underwear, socks, everything. ohsht. Note to self: line luggage with garbage bags. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
snipA San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the airport's instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path has been out of service in recent weeks and was not operational on Saturday. Pilots and air safety experts said the glide path technology was far fro

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
That happened to me when I went to Japan. Our plane in Boston got taken out of service, they put us on a little puddle jumper to JFK to catch a flight, I could see my bags sitting on a cart on the ramp, it was starting to snow/rain. I told various airline people and the PJ pilot that my bags

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

2013-07-08 Thread Mike Esh
It is beginning to look that way. I have not given up yet. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Frederick Moir wrote: > >>> 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d >>> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3915708294.html > > That's one way to fix Esh's fuel delivery p

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
Not a slur. Not at all. But it is sometimes used to describe frugal. It is just a word used to describe the origin of a group of people. Portugee is not a slur either. It just describes the origin of that group of Hawaiian people. No, they are not. I thought that word was an ethnic slur

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Trust me, the airlines are providing everything they possibly need at this point, I am sure On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > WILTON wrote: >> I noticed that, too. I can hear it now, "Uh, uh, wait just a minute. Let >> me get my bag." > > Depends on whether you were stuck

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
No, they are not. I thought that word was an ethnic slur aimed at the Chinese that was commonly used in Hawaii? And for the record, I consider myself frugal, but when my life is in immediate danger, possessions are going to be the last thing I worry about... Dan Dan On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:38 P

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/07/2013 10:04 AM, WILTON wrote: Just saying they didn't HAFTA have it for seemingly such a simple approach with runway in sight from many miles out. 'Understood they were cleared for visual approach. Were they depending on ILS or some other system, anyway, and allowing aircraft to take c

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
What really gassed me when I saw the first photos of the surviving passengers walking away from the wreckage was that many of them were pulling their carry on luggage behind them! I would have been walking over people to get out of that thing, baggage be damned! Dan On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:00 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: I noticed that, too. I can hear it now, "Uh, uh, wait just a minute. Let me get my bag." Depends on whether you were stuck standing there longer than it took to retrieve the bag. And it wouldn't be fun to land on another continent 20,000 miles from home with zero luggage. Mi

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
What really gassed me when I saw the first photos of the surviving passengers walking away from the wreckage was that many of them were pulling their carry on luggage behind them! I would have been walking over people to get out of that thing, baggage be damned! Dan Dan, who is obviously not

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
"One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2 in place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark plug wires" That is what is crazy. Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
Scott Ritchey wrote: Yup. It's just enough movement to see detectable needle movement on my cheapie dial gauge. It also seemed to me that the setting was correct when you can just barely detect any movement when you push/pull on the disk. When doing motorcycle valve lash, minimum feel for me

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:41 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >> >> It's on CNN's website. > > http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/08/us/asiana-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Thank you. Wow. And pretty much everybody walked away. Quite a testament to Boeing in general, and the 777 in particular. Rick Sen

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
I noticed that, too. I can hear it now, "Uh, uh, wait just a minute. Let me get my bag." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Probably could've landed fine on the over/under run (blast pad) if he'd been just a few feet (maybe 8 or 10?) higher to clear that "seawall." Blast pads (over run) areas are weaker than runway, of course, but touching down there's a helluva lot better than really "pranging" it. Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] Was someone looking for a deal on R-134a?

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: TSC had 12oz cans for $8 ($7.98 I think) each on Saturday and I managed to forget to get some... Too bad Menard's doesn't go east of Cleveland and they won't ship R134a. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to ww

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: They were under a VFR approach, or at least the day was clear, so anyone looking out the window (and glancing at the airspeed indicator) would have seen they were slow, and not aimed at the runway. Even if they were on an instrument approach the system should have known bett

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Rich Thomas
They were under a VFR approach, or at least the day was clear, so anyone looking out the window (and glancing at the airspeed indicator) would have seen they were slow, and not aimed at the runway. Even if they were on an instrument approach the system should have known better than to do that,

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Scott Ritchey wrote: Yup. It's just enough movement to see detectable needle movement on my cheapie dial gauge. It also seemed to me that the setting was correct when you can just barely detect any movement when you push/pull on the disk. When doing motorcycle valve lash, minimum feel for m

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

2013-07-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Frederick Moir wrote: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3915708294.html That's one way to fix Esh's fuel delivery problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives ht

Re: [MBZ] OT Fundraising......Monsanto Sucks!

2013-07-08 Thread Benz Hogs
Similar to drugs creating "super bacteria" it's feared that GM food will cross pollinate with weeds and create weeds that are resistant to herbicide. Also, pollen from GM corn has been shown to cause the death of caterpillars. GM foods may create new allergens like peanuts or gluten. http://

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib writes: > Rick Knoble writes: > >> On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >> >>> >>> I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes >>> the ground and then does a near 360 spin up into the air and then slams >>> down again, it's a remarkable test

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

2013-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Around Boston to Quincy? About an hour, all told.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Michael Canfield >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 2:15 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d > > >Fred, >  How far is that fro

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Rick Knoble writes: > On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > >> >> I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes >> the ground and then does a near 360 spin up into the air and then slams >> down again, it's a remarkable testament to the build quality of th

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Ritchey
I don't see any other explanation unless the pitot system was frozen over and the altimeter was set wrong (probably not or FDR would show). So how can this be allowed to happen? Did everybody think someone else was flying the jet (I've seen that happen)? -Original Message- From: Mercede

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Ritchey
Yup. It's just enough movement to see detectable needle movement on my cheapie dial gauge. It also seemed to me that the setting was correct when you can just barely detect any movement when you push/pull on the disk. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
HTC Evo 4g lte. Android OS. Not the phones fault, I just don't pay attention and hit buttons too fast. Mike On Jul 8, 2013 2:16 PM, "Rick Knoble" wrote: > On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Michael Canfield" > wrote: > > > Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on my > > phone someday. > > >

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > > I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes > the ground and then does a near 360 spin up into the air and then slams > down again, it's a remarkable testament to the build quality of the 777 > that it remained most

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Fred, How far is that from you? Mike On Jul 8, 2013 1:55 PM, "Frederick Moir" wrote: > Not mine. > > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred. > > - Forwarded Message - > >From: "fred.s...@verizon.net" > >To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com > >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 1:45 PM > >Subject: 84 Mer

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Michael Canfield" wrote: > Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on my > phone someday. What phone? iPhone is dead simple. My Android tablet, not so much, to the point I don't even read email on it... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:52:33 -0400 Allan Streib wrote: > I would add that from the video I've seen, where the aircraft strikes > the ground and then does a near 360 spin up into the air and then slams > down again, it's a remarkable testament to the build quality of the 777 > that it remained mos

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > I heard on NPR this morning that the pilot flying left seat only had > something like 7 hours in this airframe. I think it was a bit more than that, but he also had thousands of hours in other large jets. He was by all accounts I've seen a very seasoned pilot. -- Allan S

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:04:09 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > "One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2 > in place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max > stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark > plug wires" > >

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:16:32 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > Yeah, what Curt said. It's been a while. Sorry. > > Mike > On Jul 8, 2013 1:15 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > > > I believe the spec is 0.01-0.02mm, I use 0.0005 which is between > > lines on my HF dial indicator. Yeah! Double what C

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 11:14:37 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Yeah, airspeed and altitude, that's the ticket. You run out of either > one and you are in a world of hurt > > I have never flown a 777, but I am sure it is not wildly different from > those Cherokees I used to fly, especially when i

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
"One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2 in place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark plug wires" That is what is crazy. Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:25:09 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > Wow! That is crazy! > > Mike What is crazy? You didn't quote anything from the previous post. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archiv

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
10 hours. 14 from Seoul to Detroit (I still have the scars from doing that haul more than once!) Dan On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I thought it was more like 37 hours. How long is the flight from Korea to > SFO? Gotta be 15-18 hours... > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 08 Jul 201

[MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

2013-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Not mine.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - >From: "fred.s...@verizon.net" >To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 1:45 PM >Subject: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d > > > >fred.s...@verizon.net forwarded you this from craigslist: >

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas writes: > I have never flown a 777, but I am sure it is not wildly different from > those Cherokees I used to fly, especially when it comes to figuring out > where and how you want to plant it on the ground, and keeping your stick > and throttle sorta in sync to get you where you w

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Bad battery or loose or dirty terminals. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/li

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Yeah, what Curt said. It's been a while. Sorry. Mike On Jul 8, 2013 1:15 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > I believe the spec is 0.01-0.02mm, I use 0.0005 which is between lines on > my HF dial indicator. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:53:35 -0400 > From: Michael Canfield > To: Mercedes Dis

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
'Bout 12 hrs from Seoul to SFO depending on winds, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? I thought it was more like 37 hours. How

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Voltages under various conditions?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Curt Raymond >To: Diesel List >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 1:23 PM >Subject: [MBZ] AC and alternators? > > >I hate to disrupt the airplane theorizing but I've got a car question.

[MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I hate to disrupt the airplane theorizing but I've got a car question. Friday I noticed that if I had the AC on ('84 190D) the alternator light would glow on my car. If I turned the AC off the light would dim and after a couple minutes would go out completely. Its pretty hot here (80F when I got

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
43 hours:  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/08/boeing-777-crashes-at-san-francisco-international-airport/ - Forwarded Message - From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? I thoug

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I thought it was more like 37 hours. How long is the flight from Korea to SFO? Gotta be 15-18 hours... -Curt Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:51:21 -0400 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide     path? Message-ID: <8e7461e2

Re: [MBZ] Was someone looking for a deal on R-134a?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
TSC had 12oz cans for $8 ($7.98 I think) each on Saturday and I managed to forget to get some... -Curt Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:28:51 -0400 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was someone looking for a deal on R-134a? Message-ID: <51dabe93.2080...@voyager.net> Co

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I believe the spec is 0.01-0.02mm, I use 0.0005 which is between lines on my HF dial indicator. -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:53:35 -0400 From: Michael Canfield To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rich,

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Dieselhead
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: The last time something like this happened it was fuel waxing up resulting in power loss on final approach, which I'm sure will be examined. How can something like that possibly happen these days? Hasn't the tendency of diesel fuel an

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
I think this just gives me one more reason to drive one of my "antique" cars/trucks and see the sights along the way. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu

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