[MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via canoe as much as i like 24/7. doesn't this kind of indicate that the

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
This is just one more example of the limitations of security thinking which (IMO) generally creates more problems/cost for the good guys than the bad guys. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Subject: [MBZ] question that appears political here is a question for you war on terror

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited that i wonder if it isn't just a ruse, a cynical fraud and confidence game. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Gotta keep the sheeple in line. Mike On Sep 21, 2013 2:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: absolutely. some guy grabbing my genitals when i try to get on an airplane does nothing to stop me just walking on an amtrak train and doing whatever i like. security thinking is so limited

Re: [MBZ] OT: Namez

2013-09-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Goes way back guysGary knows. Mike On Sep 20, 2013 3:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: [rə-ginə] If you need the language above explained, see: http://www.antimoon.com/how/**pronunc-soundsipa.htmhttp://www.antimoon.com/how/pronunc-soundsipa.htm rə = ruh i = same vowel

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
I didn't notice the typo (obviously) until this morning and wondered who would catch it. -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:36:53 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Now Luther you don't actually believe that drivel that China has bought up all our debt and if they call in the debt we'll be in trouble do you? Because its wrong, China owns about 8% of our debt. A whopping 8%, I still don't understand why people get all excited about 8%... -Curt Date: Sat,

[MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Heres another reason to love your MB. Last night I decided it was high time to change the oil in the Jetta. So I jacked it up high and got a jack stand under it, then got under there and removed the underbody belly pan thing. Got my drain pan in place and then had to crawl back out to get a

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Gerry Archer
The TSA is expanding, with Congress recently giving the green light for extra funding that has increased the number of unannounced TSA checkpoints beyond the 9300 that took place last year. This $25 million dollar injection has helped fund the expansion of the VIPR program which has TSA agents

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread mlh
I never subscribed to the 'pre-fill the filter so the oil pressure goes up three seconds faster' thing. I haven't seen a transaxle that took GL anything since my 1977 Saab (and the SAE 70 originally specified for that car was superceded by 5W30). I assume you looked up the spec, but it still

Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions

2013-09-21 Thread Angelo Giaimo
Kalib, I'm in the lower Hudson Valley, about 70 miles north of NYC. I drove the car to the restoration shop that did my rust repair and repaint about 5 years ago. Including new front fenders, a crapload of new trim and a new trunk lid, as the old one was I rough shape. Probably dumped $6K+

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread G Mann
If TSA and DHS were sports teams... they would both have set records for losing streaks. Billions spent.. Millions of hours of delays caused to good citizens... Billions of increased costs to airlines and airports with extra time lost and handling expenses. ZERO TERRORIST CAUGHT IN 12 YEARS

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Benz Hogs
8% of $20,000,000,000,000.00 is almost $2 trillionnot a large sum of money... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi) On 9/21/2013 7:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Now Luther you don't actually believe that drivel that China has bought up all our debt and if they call

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread G Mann
China owning USA Bond paper is a small part of the big game.. and the big boys playing that game are in the process of failure the Giant Ponzi Scheme of International Banking has crashed in Mega Size. This article, taken from outside the lamestream Ministry of Truth is rather revealing. It is

Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions

2013-09-21 Thread WILTON
'Sounds like you need/should repair it, and you should be able to get the check and repair it or not wherever and whenever (including never) you want. You could even repair it or not yourself or at shop of your choice. Get check and deal with repair shop yourself, or not. I though it might

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Rich Thomas
You can get in a canoe? --R On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on land. i once tried to ride my bicycle in and guys were on me like white on rice. but i can get in there by water via

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
sure. you can't? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You can get in a canoe? --R On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: here is a question for you war on terror wonks. you cannot get into this place without proper clearance on

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Dan Penoff
I've flown El Al. I've had them call me the day before the flight to verify my identity, which they do randomly, so I was told. They openly admit they profile, and their attitude is If you don't like it, fly another carrier. 'nuf said. Dan who is glad he doesn't travel for business any more

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
El Al is faced with REAL threats every day. They don't depend on technology of mindless procedures. They do profile. And it works. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff I've flown El Al. I've had them call me the day before the flight to verify my identity, which they do

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Profiling needs to be done daily. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: El Al is faced with REAL threats every day. They don't depend on technology of mindless procedures. They do profile. And it works. -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
This is significant, particularly when you recall that the crash of 2008/2009 was purely a banking crisis. Sure, lots of folks bought houses they couldn't afford (only after banks made foolish loans with Freddie/Fanny cheerleading all the way). But the taxpayer didn't bail out those homeowners,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff (G52? I forget) is

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
i think it was an effort to destabilize the middle class. in my old neighborhood, rather than that help the homeowners stay in their homes , they sent the sheriff for the homeowners, paid the banks the full not plus 10% and turned around and sold th houses for 1/3 what they bought them for.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
My Mercedes Diesel (617.) is the easily easiest and cleanest oil change of any vehicle I have ever owned, including yard equipment. I use a topsider which seems to remove more oil than the drain plug. On a semi-related note, I have an Outback where you have to unscrew the oil filter from under

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
Whether that was the actual goal or simply an unintended consequence, the fact remains that the net effect of recent economic policy is the gradual destruction of the middle class. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent:

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
since 1981 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Whether that was the actual goal or simply an unintended consequence, the fact remains that the net effect of recent economic policy is the gradual destruction of the middle class. -Original

[MBZ] OT but interesting

2013-09-21 Thread Rich Thomas
So back when an a-bomb was accidentally dropped right near where Milton lives. Yesterday's WSJ had a book review of a new book about bomb accidents, mostly missile explosions that expelled the warheads, and caused various other problems. It also mentioned this incident and suggested the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff

Re: [MBZ] question that appears political

2013-09-21 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Well, for one thing, trains don't fall out of the sky and kill everyone when disabled by a small explosion. But you are correct that the kind of security thinking that fuels the TSA is a kind of security theater. The problem is that the focus is on stopping things rather than people of ill

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread G Mann
I agree... it is my belief that a steel core with lead then wrapped in copper jacket is the more stable investment to the target market... it gives greatest penetration into said market and highest yield for investment looking into future deliveries... Grant who owns and drives diesel

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-21 Thread OK Don
They run at higher temps than a water cooled engine, and run at a higher percentage of maximum power most of the time. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Why is such heavy oil used in recip aircraft engines? Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com I

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-21 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: ...These folks plan to control the world... and they are. Wonder what's next? We have example of citizens managing what's next, don't we? I am coming to believe that we have ALL become dupes of media and entitlement preaching. Gov't does not infringe unless we let them take.

Re: [MBZ] 350 SDL Opinions

2013-09-21 Thread Dwight Giles
I actually had a good experience with insco last winter when blizzard dropped tree on my 82 300CD. They said they would pay up to 75% of book and they booked it at 13400 much to my shock. I paid body shop for new front fenders and to paint the rest of the car so now I hav a full body restoration.

[MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt: Update

2013-09-21 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Sincere thanks to all of you who shared your experiences and offered advice on this issue; especially Mike Canfield who sent me a replacement bolt. After some delays and struggles we got the new bolt in. This was accomplished with the aid of a 7X16 lathe, a beer can, some crazy glue and some

Re: [MBZ] OT but back to diesels

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Toscano
if you're running light you don't need E rated/10 plys. having said that, I always put 10 plys on mine. i think if you take a diesel off pavement you should get 4wd. the front ends are so heavy they can get stuck on grass. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting

2013-09-21 Thread WILTON
It is amazing the number of supposedly well-educated people who keep writing books about the 1961 incident 12 mile from here but evidently don't know how to count (each one comes up with a different number of switches - usually sprinkled between 4 and 9) and can't seem to understand that all of

Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting

2013-09-21 Thread WILTON
Oh, I forgot - part of second bomb - secondary package of radioactive material (200 to 300 lbs) is still in the ground, depth unknown, maybe 180 feet or so. Unable to recover it in '61 because of water, mud, etc. Wilt - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To:

[MBZ] Mercedes 300D reduced $$

2013-09-21 Thread WILTON
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 300D reduced $$

2013-09-21 Thread Gary Hurst
considering hte scrap man will pay 400, it's pretty close to rock bottom On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:38 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/**cto/4079635243.htmlhttp://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4079635243.html Somebody better snap it up. Wilt

Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting

2013-09-21 Thread WILTON
BTW, 'tickles me when the article says recently declassified doc. first conclusive evidence, etc. BS - I've had several of the relevant declassified docs., including report of detailed analysis by Sandia Corp., here on my desk for several years. I've read and understand them all in great

[MBZ] we have our tybee bomb

2013-09-21 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
google tybee bomb thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com