Re: [MBZ] OT but important
My experience is to get tested. I had a history of intestinal issues since my appendectomy in 1995. Not sure if there is any connection, however the problems started soon after. At 40 I started colonoscopies anally, I mean annually. :-) Pre-cancerous signs showed up around 2008 and after several recommendations to remove my colon, I went ahead with a total colectomy. In my case it probably saved my life. But who knows? You try to make the best decisions to stay alive a little longer Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:05 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree that the measure is most likely a reflection of the presenting population. I asked my Doc about the results of the procedure when he was pushing it, and was told something to the effect that this procedure results in a 5-10 % change in the mortality rate due to colon cancer. I said that that doesn't sound like a significant change. He said that in the field of medicine, that is a huge success. I've been even more skeptical of modern medicine since. I've declined the procedure, sounds like scare tactics to generate revenue more than saving my life. Now, if they do find a bad polyp and save your life, I guess it's worth it, but the odds don't seem to be in your favor. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So the fellow's rate of detecting suspicious tissue in your intestine is 13 - 19%. Is that a function of the fellow and his technology, or of the presenting population? I would presume the latter. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting Cargo Van
Saw one of these on the interstate yesterday. Sort of weird looking, but cool: http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/nv-cargo Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Here is the guy who is doing most of the clinical studies regarding ADR percentages at IU. Eddie said he is the rear admiral in the Navy of gastroenterologists. http://iuhealth.org/knowledge/detail/colorectal-cancer-screening/ On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:11:45 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Adenoma Detection Rate. Adenoma is a benign tumor of glandular tissue, such as the mucosa of stomach, small intestine, and colon, in which tumor cells form glands or glandlike structures. In hollow organs (digestive tract), the adenoma grows into the lumen - adenomatous polyp or polypoid adenoma. Depending on the type of the insertion base, adenoma may be pedunculated (lobular head with a long slender stalk) or sessile (broad base). So the fellow's rate of detecting suspicious tissue in your intestine is 13 - 19%. Is that a function of the fellow and his technology, or of the presenting population? I would presume the latter. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dark matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N0w2rORwSc Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Cargo Van
I see those around quite often. It's like 1960s jap styling, a bit jarring. --R On 11/2/13 8:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Saw one of these on the interstate yesterday. Sort of weird looking, but cool: http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/nv-cargo Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Well for some reason my dr sent me to get scoped about 5 years ago. That was fun I tell you. I got a letter in the mail saying it was about time to get another scope. I have not had that done. As I am a long way away from 50 I figure they are just trying to rack up a bill or something. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Not necessarily. If you have certain indicators, especially if you have a direct blood relative that had/has colon cancer, your predispostion for it is higher. Considering that it's a leading form of cancer and a killer if left undiagnosed, I would do it. A lot like prostate cancer, which Roger died of. Fairly easy to treat in the early stages, but will definitely kill you if left undetected. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well for some reason my dr sent me to get scoped about 5 years ago. That was fun I tell you. I got a letter in the mail saying it was about time to get another scope. I have not had that done. As I am a long way away from 50 I figure they are just trying to rack up a bill or something. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. I got scoped from both ends on the day of the Royal Wedding, 2011. Nothing much to report, but they drove the Golden Spike somewhere around my duodenum. The difference between an endoscope and a colonoscope? The flavor. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Well it is actually not a big deal other than the refrain from drinking the morning of, and the roto-rooting, which is probably not a bad thing to do anyway now and again (minus the flu or travel complaint causing it). Get the flush, go in the next morning, get some happy juice, wake up, go home and sleep, then get up and eat a huge meal. It is one of those things that is more preventative than anything, and if it catches something early then you won't die a miserable death from colon cancer or something related. You can save yourself to die more pleasantly from something else. On another note, which sorta started all this, is that everyone should get a hepatitis screening, which is some minor blood-letting. Hepatitis is now the leading cause of liver cancer, and chances of having it is pretty high no matter what your risk factors. Many people have it and have no idea as they are asymptomatic, but it is still in there creating problems. --R On 11/2/13 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well for some reason my dr sent me to get scoped about 5 years ago. That was fun I tell you. I got a letter in the mail saying it was about time to get another scope. I have not had that done. As I am a long way away from 50 I figure they are just trying to rack up a bill or something. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
I had a cousin on my dads side who died of colon cancer at a young age Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not necessarily. If you have certain indicators, especially if you have a direct blood relative that had/has colon cancer, your predispostion for it is higher. Considering that it's a leading form of cancer and a killer if left undiagnosed, I would do it. A lot like prostate cancer, which Roger died of. Fairly easy to treat in the early stages, but will definitely kill you if left undetected. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well for some reason my dr sent me to get scoped about 5 years ago. That was fun I tell you. I got a letter in the mail saying it was about time to get another scope. I have not had that done. As I am a long way away from 50 I figure they are just trying to rack up a bill or something. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Yes they did me both ends also. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:07 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. I got scoped from both ends on the day of the Royal Wedding, 2011. Nothing much to report, but they drove the Golden Spike somewhere around my duodenum. The difference between an endoscope and a colonoscope? The flavor. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Rich, on the hepatitis thing, I'm a regular blood donor. Do you know if Red Cross routinely tests for this or do I need to ask my PCP to do the test. I have no reason to believe I'm at risk, but it's like you said. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but important ... On another note, which sorta started all this, is that everyone should get a hepatitis screening, which is some minor blood-letting. Hepatitis is now the leading cause of liver cancer, and chances of having it is pretty high no matter what your risk factors. Many people have it and have no idea as they are asymptomatic, but it is still in there creating problems. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Is it a test for a specific strain of hepatitis, or just Hep B? I think I got tested in 2005 when I started at USF - they require immunizations for all incoming students. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Rich, on the hepatitis thing, I'm a regular blood donor. Do you know if Red Cross routinely tests for this or do I need to ask my PCP to do the test. I have no reason to believe I'm at risk, but it's like you said. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but important ... On another note, which sorta started all this, is that everyone should get a hepatitis screening, which is some minor blood-letting. Hepatitis is now the leading cause of liver cancer, and chances of having it is pretty high no matter what your risk factors. Many people have it and have no idea as they are asymptomatic, but it is still in there creating problems. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Checklist for a successful colonoscopy: 1. Temporary tattoo on the butt cheeks that says EXIT ONLY. 2. Sedative for twilight sleep during proceedure. [your doctor should be selected on this feature for the proceedure]. 3. Physical verification just before going under the staff is fully equipped with at least a gallon of lubricant and a commitment from them they will apply lubricant liberally . The worst part of the procedure is the prep which evacuates the colon for inspection. There is no way around that one. As distasteful as it is.. do it on schedule... it beats dying of colon cancer. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think the recommended thing is to get scoped around 50, then future scopings are based on how things look the first time out. From there I believe they say every 10 years if things look good. My GP has been bugging me about it for 2-3 years. I finally gave in when the wife hassled me about it and I used it to push her into getting her hip replaced, as in I'll get a colonoscopy after you get your hip replaced. I lost that bet, but it was for a good cause. Now it's time for the payoff. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: For whatever it is worth my resident expert suggests those of a certain age should get scoped every so many years (and I can't remember how many but it is probably such that I need to get scoped again soon myself). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Not sure, easy enough to get the test. Many people contract Hep C (and B apparently) without knowing it -- could be from food or something, not the usual behavioral stuff (IV drugs, that kind of sexual activity). My wife gives me a hard time on oysters and sushi so I seldom eat raw seafood any more though fresh (or roasted) orsters are a treat. --R On 11/2/13 2:31 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Rich, on the hepatitis thing, I'm a regular blood donor. Do you know if Red Cross routinely tests for this or do I need to ask my PCP to do the test. I have no reason to believe I'm at risk, but it's like you said. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but important ... On another note, which sorta started all this, is that everyone should get a hepatitis screening, which is some minor blood-letting. Hepatitis is now the leading cause of liver cancer, and chances of having it is pretty high no matter what your risk factors. Many people have it and have no idea as they are asymptomatic, but it is still in there creating problems. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
At 12:05 PM -0700 11/2/13, G Mann wrote: As distasteful as it is.. do it on schedule... it beats dying of colon cancer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N0w2rORwSc -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dash Cam Win (for a change)
For once, here are some Russian dash cam pics of people NOT being jerks! What a novel idea! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNv8RM8gmz8 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
Fred beat you to this one. He posted it earlier. Dan On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 12:05 PM -0700 11/2/13, G Mann wrote: As distasteful as it is.. do it on schedule... it beats dying of colon cancer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N0w2rORwSc -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dark matters
Fred wrote: Colorectal surgeon Song +1 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Cargo Van
strikes me as just so much more nissan cube at first glance. i like it! On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I see those around quite often. It's like 1960s jap styling, a bit jarring. --R On 11/2/13 8:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Saw one of these on the interstate yesterday. Sort of weird looking, but cool: http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/nv-cargo Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Cargo Van
os. On Nov 2, 2013 7:46 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: strikes me as just so much more nissan cube at first glance. i like it! They are all over the place here in Portland too. About twice the size of a Cube--they must be built on the same chassis as the Titan pickup and Armada SUV. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Cargo Van
i am compact wagon kinda guy, but i'd like it a lot of i felt the need for more room. i had a rabbit hatchback in the day and learned how you can carry an insane amount of stuff in a very small package, so i've never felt the need for another bigger than a 300TD On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: os. On Nov 2, 2013 7:46 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: strikes me as just so much more nissan cube at first glance. i like it! They are all over the place here in Portland too. About twice the size of a Cube--they must be built on the same chassis as the Titan pickup and Armada SUV. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
