Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Perhaps he read the recent medical report on beards. http://voices.yahoo.com/ladies-mans-beard-infested-2-bugs-8246.html Gerry . On 12/22/2013 3:54 PM, OK Don wrote: Me neither - bearded also. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Gary

Re: [MBZ] Stevia

2013-12-23 Thread John Reames
Apparently they have found chemicals that appear to slow the conversion of carbs into sugars... Whether or not it has any real world effects... Who knows. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 22, 2013, at 21:29, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

[MBZ] Carfax?

2013-12-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Anyone got some Carfax checks left? (I already asked Kaleb to see what he could find out.) Found an interesting 97 SL500 I'm going to look at tomorrow and want to do some checking on it before I go Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic Suspension Filter/Tank

2013-12-23 Thread r
Ummm, where is the tank? Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspension stuff amydugy5From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.comDate: Sun, December 22, 2013 2:29 pmTo: mercedes@okiebenz.comWhen you reply to another post but change the subject, it

Re: [MBZ] Stevia

2013-12-23 Thread Curt Raymond
I suspect most larger than at home producers use freeze concentration at least in part, its way less work and energy intensive but it won't get you all the way I don't think. At some point it has to be so cold you might as well just boil. -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:31:56 -0500 From: John

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic Suspension Filter/Tank

2013-12-23 Thread Frederick Moir
Left front of engine compartment.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: r...@rhonald.me r...@rhonald.me To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread r
I will respond below: Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspension stuffFrom: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comDate: Sun, December 22, 2013 10:52 amTo: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comThe word I use is perfectify.

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic Suspension Filter/Tank

2013-12-23 Thread r
Thanks Frederick Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic SuspensionFilter/TankFrom: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comDate: Mon, December 23, 2013 1:23 pmTo: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comLeft front of engine compartment.Fred Moir

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
It is constructive. Do not overly improve something when it is functioning as intended, or you will burn a big hole in your pocket! I learned this the hard way. AS 1983 300TD 1983 300TD Each charming in its own way, though not perfect. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
i've owned like 20 mercedes cars and i only miss 2: w123 diesel wagon w115 diesel, 4 on the floor On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: It is constructive. Do not overly improve something when it is functioning as intended, or you will burn a big

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Hydralic Suspension Filter/Tank 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Fmiser
r...@rhonald.me wrote: 3. Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self leveling suspension in the rear? fmiser wrote: The filter is _in_ the tank. As the fluid flows back into the tank, it passes through the filter. It is attached with a hook/spring

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Fmiser
r...@rhonald.me wrote: Well, something needs doing, as I say it rides like a skateboard; I hear what you are saying, but what I see as necessary is different from the next guy. Not sure what bottoming out means, but the ride is harsh, almost BANG, THUMP when riding over bumps and rough

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I like the trampoline effect... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: r...@rhonald.me wrote: Well, something needs doing, as I say it rides like a skateboard; I hear what you are saying, but what I see as necessary is different from the next guy. Not sure

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
great fun for young children! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I like the trampoline effect... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: r...@rhonald.me wrote: Well, something needs doing, as I say it rides like a

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread r
Of course they know about the accumulators Phillip, they are on the original list. Thanks Classic symptoms of dead accumulators (sometimes called spheres). These are a wear item. Once the high-pressure nitrogen leaks out, the car rides as you describe. But if your mechanic is unaware of

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Dwight Giles
You didn't happen to purchase this by chance at the Owls Head Aauction in Maine this summer did you? Dwight On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:39 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: Of course they know about the accumulators Phillip, they are on the original list. Thanks Classic symptoms of dead

[MBZ] Oh Kaleb....

2013-12-23 Thread rickknoble
http://bringatrailer.com/2013/12/22/3500-euro-1984-mercedes-benz-500-sec-amg/ Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Oh Kaleb....

2013-12-23 Thread Dan Penoff
I saw that this morning and immediately thought of Kaleb. The comments weren't very positive, so I dropped it at that point Dan On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, rickknoble wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/2013/12/22/3500-euro-1984-mercedes-benz-500-sec-amg/ Rick Knoble Sent from

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
OK, I'm out of this. Scott Former owner of 79 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
is this going from weird to weird and interesting or is that just wishful thinking on my part? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: OK, I'm out of this. Scott Former owner of 79 300TD ___

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
The guy asks for advice and then gets defensive when experienced people (most of them hands-on) try to help. Life is too short. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 4:37 PM To:

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
I blame it on women's lib. Back in my day (50s and early 60s) I benefitted from many superb women teachers in public schools. I suspect most of them were there (vs running fortune 500 corporations) because education was the best avenue open to them as dedicated, educated women. But that's only

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm not quite following it that closely, but that's a good point. r is not strasofgel? i guess that question makes my level of confusion apparent. but it's time for dog racing! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The guy asks for advice and then gets

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Evaluation sounds like the right answer but I wonder about the administration's ability (and criteria) to evaluate teachers. When I got to Stanford (USAF-sponsored PhD program in 1984) one thing I discovered (which surprised me) was that the professors didn't really know which other professors

Re: [MBZ] Oh Kaleb....

2013-12-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Most of The comments appear to be from people who do not know what they are talking about Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I saw that this morning and immediately thought of Kaleb. The comments weren't very positive, so I dropped it at

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I guess I must have missed something Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The guy asks for advice and then gets defensive when experienced people (most of them hands-on) try to help. Life is too short. Scott -Original

Re: [MBZ] Civil Sexism, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I do agree with some of this, particularly the bit about parents needing to put an effort into educating their kids and not expect the state to do everything and then when things don't work out, blame the system/teachers. It's about people not willing to take responsibility for their offspring

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread r
Yikes, I totally forgot about this; it has been so long since I posted. Thanksf for the reminder Curt. Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, December 23, 2013

Re: [MBZ] Civil Sexism, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread WILTON
ATTAGIRL and congratulations Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Sexism, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy I do agree with some of this, particularly the

Re: [MBZ] Oh Kaleb....

2013-12-23 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Most of The comments appear to be from people who do not know what they are talking about That's what I thought. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: Perhaps he read the recent medical report on beards. I bought a Chicago Schwinn bicycle from a guy that told us he washed his beard 3 times each day. He claimed it as medically needed since it functioned as a filter for contaminants, and that is why he washed it 3 times each day.

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: I blame it on women's lib. ... ...most mothers then were home makers. Now, it seems mothers need to work but mainly so they can afford to buy crap that isn't really needed. Folks have been brainwashed to believe they and their kids NEED all kinds of stuff that didn't even exist

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote: I would also add that Contructivism is the flavor of the month for now. This is the experiential style of learning promoted by Montessori, Piaget and Dewey. Yes. That is what I mean by touchy feely. Data be damned. Data does not drive the education process, rather it is used

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
r wrote: Yikes, I totally forgot about this; it has been so long since I posted. Thanksf for the reminder Curt. Yes, and please clip your post. i.e. don't include the entire 4 days of posts on the topic in each of your responses. Thanks. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and othersuspensionstuff

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
as per always On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I guess I must have missed something Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The guy asks for advice and then gets defensive when experienced

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 23, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Yes, and please clip your post. i.e. don't include the entire 4 days of posts on the topic in each of your responses. Thanks. mao Merry Christmas to you too. Testy lately? :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread David Bruckmann
If the rear struts don't leak fluid (ie don't leave significant puddles) they are fine. The internal dampers cannot wear out, the only wear items are the seals (resulting in leaks) and the balljoints at the bottom (resulting in creaks). Balljoints are available separately IIRC. A hard ride is

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 23, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gerry wrote: Perhaps he read the recent medical report on beards. I bought a Chicago Schwinn bicycle from a guy that told us he washed his beard 3 times each day. He claimed it as medically needed since it functioned

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread clay
She is probably better hung than he is, as well. That is one damn ugly woman. She makes Rosie look hot. clay On Dec 22, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Obama has a beard --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 22, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Richard Hattaway
Two folks in the home going to work = higher discretionary  income Higher discretionary income = eventual higher prices ( cars, homes ) as a function of capitalism Higher prices = requirement for two incomes Two income requirement = kids raised in mass storage facilities Kids raised in mass

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
absolutely, scott. once women were admitted into higher university positions, law, highest levels of medicine, etc, it was all over for public school teaching. i had a teacher in HS who was the top student in her masters class in history at columbia university but could not get accepted into a

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread clay
SWMBA was not impressed with her middle school teacher, so she organized the children and parents. There was pressure put on the school to remedy the situation, and the teacher was removed. No idea where that teacher went, but it was not to either highschool or other location in town. Then

Re: [MBZ] OhaMG Kaleb....

2013-12-23 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Doesn't look like a AMG of the time, however those wheels are worth a bit if original, does it have airbags or just a later steering wheel. My guess if it was a genuine AMG, it would have sold at 3.5 a while back, especially if it was a widebody. However in euro spec the 5 litre engine is a

Re: [MBZ] Civil Sexism, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Or maybe it's grade creep? At Harvard, A is average now... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:58 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: ATTAGIRL and congratulations Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Hendrik and Fay
One of my pet hates is the big chemical companies scaring us into using toxic chemicals to keep our homes 'safe' from killer germs. End result is a bunch of kids who have all sorts of health issues due to exposure to a range of cleaning products and a lack of exposure to bugs. Question is, what

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Eat plenty of yogurt and garlic and there's nothing to worry about, beard or no beard. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: One of my pet hates is the big chemical companies scaring us into using toxic chemicals to keep our homes 'safe' from killer germs.

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't really eat dairy, but i do like garlic On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Eat plenty of yogurt and garlic and there's nothing to worry about, beard or no beard. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff 2ebe7y5u

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: Merry Christmas to you too. Testy lately? Yo... Take it to banned. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: The piece Gerry posted was a spoof, irony, like The Onion. Oh well... The guy I was talking about was not spoof, so... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My son is vegan and my ex partner was gluten free so our menu options were limited when all the gang got together for a meal.. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i don't really eat dairy, but i do like garlic On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
i am limiting my food choices more and more every year. corporate food is making us all sick and a few of us are starting to care the rest are just happy to get cancer and have their insurance company or their government pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to help them survive it so that

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread clay
+1 on the w115 manual clay On Dec 23, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've owned like 20 mercedes cars and i only miss 2: w123 diesel wagon w115 diesel, 4 on the floor On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: It is constructive. Do not

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Not sure anyone is ever happy to get cancer... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i am limiting my food choices more and more every year. corporate food is making us all sick and a few of us are starting to care the rest are just happy to get cancer

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread Peter Frederick
I do miss my W115. My brother is still using his, rust and all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Filthy dirty hairy 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
then why do they live the lives they live? because TV told them to? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure anyone is ever happy to get cancer... On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i am limiting my

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Hurst
57 brutal ponies under the hood! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:25 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: +1 on the w115 manual clay On Dec 23, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've owned like 20 mercedes cars and i only miss 2: w123 diesel wagon w115 diesel, 4 on the floor On

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Don't forget that all this additional economic activity, like day care so a wife (or husband, for that matter) can work generates more income for the Government to tax. When mom cooks: no taxes. But when the family goes out to Cracker Barrel, government at several levels gets a piece of the