Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
Are you being serious? Far as I remember WTF has been used around here (and most other non swearing forums) for ever. The main purpose of the moderators/admins is to keep the peace and not clamp down on every little thing. Many a time a list member has inadvertently (and not) dropped a bad word around here. As long as it was a mistake and an apology was forthcoming we can be adults about it. Sure if the list wants to ban WTF and other such things then yeah but I won't be saying much, in case I say the wrong thing. Now if Andrew told someone to STFU, then yes a moderation/warning is in order. Hendrik who tries to cut down on the swearing On 27/03/14 11:55, Max Dillon wrote: Moderation for Andrew's fowl language? I musta missed something. I didn't hear andrew talking about guinea, pea, turkey, duck, swan, chicken or any other fowl language. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Meeting with Esh [was: Re: Fats driving]
also armstrong, gemainhardt (surely spelled wrong but i don't want to look it up) and i'm thinking probably others as well On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:09:15 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most of my kid's band instruments seem to come from there Yes. In being driven around town, my host pointed out several buildings where musical instruments are manufactured. Conn was one of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry On 3/26/2014 11:10 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Are you being serious? Far as I remember WTF has been used around here (and most other non swearing forums) for ever. The main purpose of the moderators/admins is to keep the peace and not clamp down on every little thing. Many a time a list member has inadvertently (and not) dropped a bad word around here. As long as it was a mistake and an apology was forthcoming we can be adults about it. Sure if the list wants to ban WTF and other such things then yeah but I won't be saying much, in case I say the wrong thing. Now if Andrew told someone to STFU, then yes a moderation/warning is in order. Hendrik who tries to cut down on the swearing On 27/03/14 11:55, Max Dillon wrote: Moderation for Andrew's foul language? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:33:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry I vote for strict interpretation of Kaleb's statement on this list. That is what it always has been and that's why Banned existed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
Interesting! I'll send a copy to the subdivision president. ThanksGerry On 3/26/2014 2:50 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: Not a real problem to have a controlled burn in an area like that. We had one last year. I was super impressed. The NC Forestry Service pulled it off, had a whole bunch of guys in yellow suits and stuff, and trucks everywhere, and one big yellow helicopter. The helicopter shot fire balls, like a video game, every 50 yards or so, and the guys running the fire line started with the wind to their backs, using what looked like tomato sprayers, but fire came out and brush disappeared. They burned 75 acres, and were done in less than 2 hours. Prep included a fire brake done with a track hoe/plow/bush machine. It cuts a swath about 10 yards wide, and wider when the trees might allow the fire to skip over. This monster would cut down trees in the way, and plow the earth under them to some where around 2 feet.. big bottom plow attached to a digger/grader type.. sorta a bulldozer on steroids with a plow behind (c: I have pictures. Don't know how to attach them here. (c: Cheers Richard On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You have native gooseberries?? WTF. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 3/26/2014 10:09 AM, Dieselhead wrote: The local restrictions here are probably necessary because of constant dry conditions and the subdivision being heavily forested with houses built among the trees. The underbrush is like tinder. Gerry Y'all need to do controlled burns to eliminate the fuel and eliminate some of the brush. It does an excellent job around here with the state promoted invasive weed, multiflora rose. The fire kills them dead. They have a lot of oil in the bark, and it burns slowly, but nicely. Natives like oak and hickory and gooseberries thrive on the burned areas. Around here DNR provides training and planning for controlled burn. Either that or go out and pick up and burn or mulch/compost the underbrush fuel. ___ I wish we could do controlled burns, but I don't think you could do it in a large wooded subdivision of mostly one to five acre lots and a lot of standing dead trees on lots that don't have houses. I would guess that not more than one fourth of the lots have houses, and most of the remaing undeveloped lots are being held for investment and/or sale at very high prices. I don't believe the homeowners association could legally force the undeveloped lot owners to keep their wooded lots clear of underbrush. I keep my wooded lot clear of underbrush but many don't. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
On 3/26/2014 1:01 PM, Dieselhead wrote: ___ I wish we could do controlled burns, but I don't think you could do it in a large wooded subdivision of mostly one to five acre lots and a lot of standing dead trees on lots that don't have houses. I would guess that not more than one fourth of the lots have houses, and most of the remaing undeveloped lots are being held for investment and/or sale at very high prices. I don't believe the homeowners association could legally force the undeveloped lot owners to keep their wooded lots clear of underbrush. I keep my wooded lot clear of underbrush but many don't. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: The HOA where my daughter lives managed to force one lot owner to go in and clean out dead wood and underbrush. Different state, but i think if the HOA was aggressive, they could do it. That would solve the problem, but there is so much of the undeveloped parts owned by people up north; not to mention the huge areas that belong to Prudential Insurance, it would be something of a nightmare trying to get everyone to comply. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
Gerry, If the property is in Florida and there is an HOA in place under Florida law they can potentially fine, or if there is no provision for fines in the bylaws, pay to have the work done then either file a lien or a foreclosure action against the owner. This takes no votes on the part of the membership and would be a direct decision of the Board. Makes no difference if the owner is a bank or an individual. I would point out that banks usually take a dim view of liens being placed on their properties, and once done so, are usually quick to resolve any issues. At least that has been my experience as an HOA board member dealing with such. We have a bank owned property in our neighborhood that has yet to go to a short sale despite the bank attempting to do so on several occasions. It's in poor shape and has even has some vandalism from what we can see. At last week's Board meeting we directed the management company to have the property cleaned up and secured, as well as filing for abandonment with the County, which is a pretty severe action. If the County considers it abandoned, we can attach the property and pretty much do what we want with it until the bank settles all costs we have incurred. Pretty severe action, but we got tired listening to the bank's promises that it was going to be cleaned up and sold, none of which they have followed through with. We'll recoup our costs including management and attorney's fees for all of this before they can sell it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:25 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The HOA where my daughter lives managed to force one lot owner to go in and clean out dead wood and underbrush. Different state, but i think if the HOA was aggressive, they could do it. That would solve the problem, but there is so much of the undeveloped parts owned by people up north; not to mention the huge areas that belong to Prudential Insurance, it would be something of a nightmare trying to get everyone to comply. Gerry ___ All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Dry it, lube it, and perhaps check to see if the thin plastic drip shield (inside) has been lost. I'd take it apart, use WD40 to get rid of the water, brake cleaner to get rid of the WD40, then lube it with something appropriate like graphite. While it's apart you can check into the drip shield issue. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Sort of Cool
This is a well laid out web site: http://whatsideoftheroad.com Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Try some carb (or is it EFI now?) cleaner to clean out any moisture or gunk or whatever it is, then put some good lock lube in there and see if that fixes it. The cleaner seems to be mostly ether or some sort of light alcohol so it should displace the moisture enough to dry things out, or try a hair dryer on it (but not after the ether!). Or you could move to a suthrun librul state where it doesn't get to freezing (Cuber is about the only one south of you that fits the bill, and your old car would fit right in). -R On 3/27/14 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD Here in the GWN gas stations usually have small squeeze bottles of lock de-icer for sale. It is essentially methyl hydrate so you should be able to find that and put it into something that would permit you to squirt it into the key slot. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sort of Cool
On 27/03/2014 9:40 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: This is a well laid out web site: http://whatsideoftheroad.com Dan ___ I looked and they did not appear to get Russia correct. From what I have seen on youtube videos, in Russia they drive where ever the heck they feel like driving. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Yes I have used those little cans of lock deicer as they are basically alcohol. Just stick proboscis in lock spray. I think it dries out moisture as I have never had to use it more than once on any lock. On Mar 27, 2014 11:15 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD Here in the GWN gas stations usually have small squeeze bottles of lock de-icer for sale. It is essentially methyl hydrate so you should be able to find that and put it into something that would permit you to squirt it into the key slot. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Many years ago we used it in the gas tank to prevent problems in cold weather as well. Methyl Hydrate encapsulates the water as I understand it so that it goes through the system without troubles. Not much done now as the fuel is better - mostly because the gas stations are not permitted to have leaky ground tanks anymore. That was where most of the water came from. Randy On 27/03/2014 10:26 AM, Dwight Giles wrote: Yes I have used those little cans of lock deicer as they are basically alcohol. Just stick proboscis in lock spray. I think it dries out moisture as I have never had to use it more than once on any lock. On Mar 27, 2014 11:15 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD Here in the GWN gas stations usually have small squeeze bottles of lock de-icer for sale. It is essentially methyl hydrate so you should be able to find that and put it into something that would permit you to squirt it into the key slot. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD The other thing I have seen is a battery powered electrical doodad. Ther is a key like metal part that slides out of the case. Put that into the slot for the key and squeeze the trigger. It heats up and warms the lock enough to permit you to use your key. Might not be in stores where you are, but likely could find it online. Randy who has one of these somewhere but has never used it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
https://www.google.ca/#q=electric+lock+de+icer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Your dealer and maybe Gary sell the real Mercedes lock lube, little blue aerosol can with key-shaped dispenser nozzle, lubes doors, trunks, ignition, lift gate... Once properly lubed, need to make sure more water doesn't get in. If the little door has broken off, maybe fashion a little plug to insert into the slot that will keep the water out? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: March 27, 2014 10:11:16 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Your dealer and maybe Gary sell the real Mercedes lock lube, little blue aerosol can with key-shaped dispenser nozzle, lubes doors, trunks, ignition, lift gate... Once properly lubed, need to make sure more water doesn't get in. If the little door has broken off, maybe fashion a little plug to insert into the slot that will keep the water out? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: March 27, 2014 10:11:16 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
I think I will try the tock deicer if I can find it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
The MB lock lubricant is a part number 002 989 06 51 and it runs around $17.00. Everyone I know that has ever used it swears by the stuff. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think I will try the tock deicer if I can find it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
But my sole problem is icing, Dan. I don't see how a lubricant will prevent that. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The MB lock lubricant is a part number 002 989 06 51 and it runs around $17.00. Everyone I know that has ever used it swears by the stuff. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think I will try the tock deicer if I can find it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
It might displace the water? Or it might not -- A piece of tape over the lock will help prevent more water getting in if the little door is missing, though it won't be very convenient. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: But my sole problem is icing, Dan. I don't see how a lubricant will prevent that. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
A pragmatic - if tacky - solution. (no pun in tended)[?] On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:41 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It might displace the water? Or it might not -- A piece of tape over the lock will help prevent more water getting in if the little door is missing, though it won't be very convenient. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: But my sole problem is icing, Dan. I don't see how a lubricant will prevent that. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. 333.gif___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
WD means water dispersant. WD40 was the fortieth mixture they tried. In freezing weather, I would give the drivers side lock a shot of WD40 both in the keyhole and the crack where the mechanism enters the door, when I parked the car. Unless there had been freeze-rain-freeze, the lock always worked, but sometimes needed repeated tries that were not forceful enough to twist or break the key. Gerry On 3/27/2014 3:41 PM, OK Don wrote: It might displace the water? Or it might not -- A piece of tape over the lock will help prevent more water getting in if the little door is missing, though it won't be very convenient. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: But my sole problem is icing, Dan. I don't see how a lubricant will prevent that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Graphite will repel the water and keep the lock dry, hence it will not freeze. Don't forget that sticky oil is much like water in it's effect on door locks -- when cold, it's so stiff the lock will feel frozen. Make sure you have a working door over the keyhole as well, it does a great job of keeping water out of the lock. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
I've heard of people with a missing flap squirting enough waterproof grease in the keyhole to keep the water out. This was done after a squirt of WD40 in the keyhole to remove any water that's already in it. It's messy but they said it worked. Note: I think the waterproof grease is obtainable from marine stores. Gerry On 3/27/2014 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Your dealer and maybe Gary sell the real Mercedes lock lube, little blue aerosol can with key-shaped dispenser nozzle, lubes doors, trunks, ignition, lift gate... Once properly lubed, need to make sure more water doesn't get in. If the little door has broken off, maybe fashion a little plug to insert into the slot that will keep the water out? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: March 27, 2014 10:11:16 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - please donate towards research
Well here is something I have absolutely no clue about. The closest I came was when we took out 123 up to the snowy mountains but it was not that cold and the 230E seemed to love the cold weather, musta reminded it of home? The only thing I can think off is to not lock it or perhaps fit an aftermarket remote locking thingy but that may be affected by the frozen lock as well? Hendrik who lives in an ice free zone On 28/03/14 00:41, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
I don't think a very strict code of conduct will do anything to improve the list, the end result being half the list dobs the other half in for minor violations. Even the original demand for moderation left a bitter taste in the mouth, that sort of thing should be done in private I think. What about links that contain 'adult' content or referencing a story that includes vulgar stuff. (it is netiquette to include a warning if a posted link contains mature content, ie NSFW (for those who don't know that one: Not Safe For Work, plenty of people have gotten into trouble for clicking on a link that they got in the email and all off a sudden there are female breasts bouncing on the screen)) If we get to the stage where everyone is on their tippy toes scared to say or post stuff because someone may take mild offence, this list will become pretty barren and soulless. Every good list/forum needs to have a bit of fun off topic banter, sure there needs to be limits but I think self moderation is the order of the day at this stage. If that don't work out, then we can revisit this. Remember folks it wasn't profanity that was the problem it was how that profanity was used towards others. Anyway end of the day it's up to Kaleb to determine the standard of behaviour here and we all have to abide by his decision. I may have mentioned that I am a mod on the OzBenz list and part of the job is to monitor what people say, the standard there is PG to mild M rating, so I let some words slide but censor others. Unless it's a bad violation I usually just edit the post by replacing the bad word with a less bad word. If the poster has a problem or is a serial offender than it's up to the admins to deal with it, as it is not my job to warn people. WTF is not a drama there and we even have a emoticon that waves a flag with the initial BS on them, which I surmise stands for bloody stupid? Actually we have a section for 'tell him he's dreaming' (kinda like crackhead of the day here) and WTF and the BS smily are there just about every day. We have a fairly broad membership at OzBenz, ranging from young people who own or want to own a Benz as their first car up to pretty old folk. So we try to accomodate all of them and have sections for modifying Benzes, where people who like originality should not go and recently we set up a section for adult stuff. This actually came about after I had an altercation with someone about their standard of behaviour and what he was posting in the forum. Funny thing is that it gets very little traffic but is handy if a thread starts to get out of control, as they sometimes do. Hendrik who may have said the word bugger once or twice but thinks he got away with it On 27/03/14 23:32, Craig wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:33:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry I vote for strict interpretation of Kaleb's statement on this list. That is what it always has been and that's why Banned existed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
This is sort of a unique subdivision which has two ruling bodies; one of which was formed in rebellion against the other. The owner of the subdivision (which is probably most of the vacant lots) is Prudential Insurance company. I get newsletters from two. This subdivision is so large, the post office is thinking about assigning it a separate zip code. About the only time someone will be accosted about a broken rule is if a neighbor complains. The advantage of having nearly all one acre lots is that people are seldom bothered by their neighbors. One resident described it as Having all the advantages of living in the country without the disadvantages of living in the city. Winn Dixie, restaurants, drug stores, etc. are ten minutes from me; a mall is 20 minutes, Walmart 15 minutes. It's the best place I've ever lived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Ridge,_Citrus_County,_Florida http://pineridgeflorida.com/ Gerry On 3/27/2014 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Gerry, If the property is in Florida and there is an HOA in place under Florida law they can potentially fine, or if there is no provision for fines in the bylaws, pay to have the work done then either file a lien or a foreclosure action against the owner. This takes no votes on the part of the membership and would be a direct decision of the Board. Makes no difference if the owner is a bank or an individual. I would point out that banks usually take a dim view of liens being placed on their properties, and once done so, are usually quick to resolve any issues. At least that has been my experience as an HOA board member dealing with such. We have a bank owned property in our neighborhood that has yet to go to a short sale despite the bank attempting to do so on several occasions. It's in poor shape and has even has some vandalism from what we can see. At last week's Board meeting we directed the management company to have the property cleaned up and secured, as well as filing for abandonment with the County, which is a pretty severe action. If the County considers it abandoned, we can attach the property and pretty much do what we want with it until the bank settles all costs we have incurred. Pretty severe action, but we got tired listening to the bank's promises that it was going to be cleaned up and sold, none of which they have followed through with. We'll recoup our costs including management and attorney's fees for all of this before they can sell it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:25 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The HOA where my daughter lives managed to force one lot owner to go in and clean out dead wood and underbrush. Different state, but i think if the HOA was aggressive, they could do it. That would solve the problem, but there is so much of the undeveloped parts owned by people up north; not to mention the huge areas that belong to Prudential Insurance, it would be something of a nightmare trying to get everyone to comply. Gerry ___ All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
I thought you said it had an HOA? If so, there is only one board regardless of who owns what. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 8:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is sort of a unique subdivision which has two ruling bodies; one of which was formed in rebellion against the other. The owner of the subdivision (which is probably most of the vacant lots) is Prudential Insurance company. I get newsletters from two. This subdivision is so large, the post office is thinking about assigning it a separate zip code. About the only time someone will be accosted about a broken rule is if a neighbor complains. The advantage of having nearly all one acre lots is that people are seldom bothered by their neighbors. One resident described it as Having all the advantages of living in the country without the disadvantages of living in the city. Winn Dixie, restaurants, drug stores, etc. are ten minutes from me; a mall is 20 minutes, Walmart 15 minutes. It's the best place I've ever lived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Ridge,_Citrus_County,_Florida http://pineridgeflorida.com/ Gerry On 3/27/2014 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Gerry, If the property is in Florida and there is an HOA in place under Florida law they can potentially fine, or if there is no provision for fines in the bylaws, pay to have the work done then either file a lien or a foreclosure action against the owner. This takes no votes on the part of the membership and would be a direct decision of the Board. Makes no difference if the owner is a bank or an individual. I would point out that banks usually take a dim view of liens being placed on their properties, and once done so, are usually quick to resolve any issues. At least that has been my experience as an HOA board member dealing with such. We have a bank owned property in our neighborhood that has yet to go to a short sale despite the bank attempting to do so on several occasions. It's in poor shape and has even has some vandalism from what we can see. At last week's Board meeting we directed the management company to have the property cleaned up and secured, as well as filing for abandonment with the County, which is a pretty severe action. If the County considers it abandoned, we can attach the property and pretty much do what we want with it until the bank settles all costs we have incurred. Pretty severe action, but we got tired listening to the bank's promises that it was going to be cleaned up and sold, none of which they have followed through with. We'll recoup our costs including management and attorney's fees for all of this before they can sell it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:25 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The HOA where my daughter lives managed to force one lot owner to go in and clean out dead wood and underbrush. Different state, but i think if the HOA was aggressive, they could do it. That would solve the problem, but there is so much of the undeveloped parts owned by people up north; not to mention the huge areas that belong to Prudential Insurance, it would be something of a nightmare trying to get everyone to comply. Gerry ___ All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards
Wow that's a big place.. and only two entrances. I bet the traffic at shift change can be challenging. However, I think I saw in the wiki article that the median age is in the 60's .. 70% of the people were over 45. So maybe not so crowded at the gate (c: There were 2,355 households out of which . 22.0% were non-families. 18.4% of all households were made up of individuals I'm suprised the 'non families' are not up in arms against the wiki boys (c: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is sort of a unique subdivision which has two ruling bodies; one of which was formed in rebellion against the other. The owner of the subdivision (which is probably most of the vacant lots) is Prudential Insurance company. I get newsletters from two. This subdivision is so large, the post office is thinking about assigning it a separate zip code. About the only time someone will be accosted about a broken rule is if a neighbor complains. The advantage of having nearly all one acre lots is that people are seldom bothered by their neighbors. One resident described it as Having all the advantages of living in the country without the disadvantages of living in the city. Winn Dixie, restaurants, drug stores, etc. are ten minutes from me; a mall is 20 minutes, Walmart 15 minutes. It's the best place I've ever lived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Ridge,_Citrus_County,_Florida http://pineridgeflorida.com/ Gerry On 3/27/2014 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Gerry, If the property is in Florida and there is an HOA in place under Florida law they can potentially fine, or if there is no provision for fines in the bylaws, pay to have the work done then either file a lien or a foreclosure action against the owner. This takes no votes on the part of the membership and would be a direct decision of the Board. Makes no difference if the owner is a bank or an individual. I would point out that banks usually take a dim view of liens being placed on their properties, and once done so, are usually quick to resolve any issues. At least that has been my experience as an HOA board member dealing with such. We have a bank owned property in our neighborhood that has yet to go to a short sale despite the bank attempting to do so on several occasions. It's in poor shape and has even has some vandalism from what we can see. At last week's Board meeting we directed the management company to have the property cleaned up and secured, as well as filing for abandonment with the County, which is a pretty severe action. If the County considers it abandoned, we can attach the property and pretty much do what we want with it until the bank settles all costs we have incurred. Pretty severe action, but we got tired listening to the bank's promises that it was going to be cleaned up and sold, none of which they have followed through with. We'll recoup our costs including management and attorney's fees for all of this before they can sell it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:25 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The HOA where my daughter lives managed to force one lot owner to go in and clean out dead wood and underbrush. Different state, but i think if the HOA was aggressive, they could do it. That would solve the problem, but there is so much of the undeveloped parts owned by people up north; not to mention the huge areas that belong to Prudential Insurance, it would be something of a nightmare trying to get everyone to comply. Gerry ___ All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Homestead Flah-duh should work too, or Donna TX ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ 1. leave it unlocked 2. move south 3 stop putting water on it 4. spend a buck on lock deicer 5. read number 1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? Ja, It is called a replacement cylinder. order from the stealership by vin and your registration. Or, get a used handle, and get it rekeyed. Oughta be a reformed politician (thief) locksmith in DC area who can rekey for you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
Well, was that a requested sermon? Exactly who is going to report me, and what would be the benefit?? Does OzBenz punish me, or is that left to someone else?? Richard Smiles, knowing he's doing his best to keep the list from becoming barren and soulless. On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:17 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think a very strict code of conduct will do anything to improve the list, the end result being half the list dobs the other half in for minor violations. Even the original demand for moderation left a bitter taste in the mouth, that sort of thing should be done in private I think. What about links that contain 'adult' content or referencing a story that includes vulgar stuff. (it is netiquette to include a warning if a posted link contains mature content, ie NSFW (for those who don't know that one: Not Safe For Work, plenty of people have gotten into trouble for clicking on a link that they got in the email and all off a sudden there are female breasts bouncing on the screen)) If we get to the stage where everyone is on their tippy toes scared to say or post stuff because someone may take mild offence, this list will become pretty barren and soulless. Every good list/forum needs to have a bit of fun off topic banter, sure there needs to be limits but I think self moderation is the order of the day at this stage. If that don't work out, then we can revisit this. Remember folks it wasn't profanity that was the problem it was how that profanity was used towards others. Anyway end of the day it's up to Kaleb to determine the standard of behaviour here and we all have to abide by his decision. I may have mentioned that I am a mod on the OzBenz list and part of the job is to monitor what people say, the standard there is PG to mild M rating, so I let some words slide but censor others. Unless it's a bad violation I usually just edit the post by replacing the bad word with a less bad word. If the poster has a problem or is a serial offender than it's up to the admins to deal with it, as it is not my job to warn people. WTF is not a drama there and we even have a emoticon that waves a flag with the initial BS on them, which I surmise stands for bloody stupid? Actually we have a section for 'tell him he's dreaming' (kinda like crackhead of the day here) and WTF and the BS smily are there just about every day. We have a fairly broad membership at OzBenz, ranging from young people who own or want to own a Benz as their first car up to pretty old folk. So we try to accomodate all of them and have sections for modifying Benzes, where people who like originality should not go and recently we set up a section for adult stuff. This actually came about after I had an altercation with someone about their standard of behaviour and what he was posting in the forum. Funny thing is that it gets very little traffic but is handy if a thread starts to get out of control, as they sometimes do. Hendrik who may have said the word bugger once or twice but thinks he got away with it On 27/03/14 23:32, Craig wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:33:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry I vote for strict interpretation of Kaleb's statement on this list. That is what it always has been and that's why Banned existed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD
Almost all good suggestions - thanks. Not gonna move. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? Ja, It is called a replacement cylinder. order from the stealership by vin and your registration. Or, get a used handle, and get it rekeyed. Oughta be a reformed politician (thief) locksmith in DC area who can rekey for you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards
Agreed!. The most successful and long lived lists have been those which have a very minimum of rules such as no personal attacks and no profanity. Most of us live in a sea of rules, so a place that has no rules besides one or two is a welcome place to spend our spare time. Gerry On 3/27/2014 8:17 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: I don't think a very strict code of conduct will do anything to improve the list, the end result being half the list dobs the other half in for minor violations. Even the original demand for moderation left a bitter taste in the mouth, that sort of thing should be done in private I think. What about links that contain 'adult' content or referencing a story that includes vulgar stuff. (it is netiquette to include a warning if a posted link contains mature content, ie NSFW (for those who don't know that one: Not Safe For Work, plenty of people have gotten into trouble for clicking on a link that they got in the email and all off a sudden there are female breasts bouncing on the screen)) If we get to the stage where everyone is on their tippy toes scared to say or post stuff because someone may take mild offence, this list will become pretty barren and soulless. Every good list/forum needs to have a bit of fun off topic banter, sure there needs to be limits but I think self moderation is the order of the day at this stage. If that don't work out, then we can revisit this. Remember folks it wasn't profanity that was the problem it was how that profanity was used towards others. Anyway end of the day it's up to Kaleb to determine the standard of behaviour here and we all have to abide by his decision. I may have mentioned that I am a mod on the OzBenz list and part of the job is to monitor what people say, the standard there is PG to mild M rating, so I let some words slide but censor others. Unless it's a bad violation I usually just edit the post by replacing the bad word with a less bad word. If the poster has a problem or is a serial offender than it's up to the admins to deal with it, as it is not my job to warn people. WTF is not a drama there and we even have a emoticon that waves a flag with the initial BS on them, which I surmise stands for bloody stupid? Actually we have a section for 'tell him he's dreaming' (kinda like crackhead of the day here) and WTF and the BS smily are there just about every day. We have a fairly broad membership at OzBenz, ranging from young people who own or want to own a Benz as their first car up to pretty old folk. So we try to accomodate all of them and have sections for modifying Benzes, where people who like originality should not go and recently we set up a section for adult stuff. This actually came about after I had an altercation with someone about their standard of behaviour and what he was posting in the forum. Funny thing is that it gets very little traffic but is handy if a thread starts to get out of control, as they sometimes do. Hendrik who may have said the word bugger once or twice but thinks he got away with it On 27/03/14 23:32, Craig wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:33:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry I vote for strict interpretation of Kaleb's statement on this list. That is what it always has been and that's why Banned existed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
