Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in a black 201
Can't quite remember any other Merc being as famous for going hard in the 80's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDB8OexxnSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw-AxiVqihM I could go on but you get the idea! Hendrik who still has a 201 to look after and yes it is a great driving chassis On 22/04/14 12:02, Meade Dillon wrote: I agree with you and Hendrik that when a 201 has good suspension, it is a joy. I'm just agreeing with Jim that when a 201 or 124 goes bad, they can go REALLY bad. Max Dillon, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] For All You El Camino Lovers
Amazing. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/21/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-pick-up/ Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] For All You El Camino Lovers
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-most-beautiful-1979-mercedes-is-half-el-camino-1565760731/+zacestrada --R On 4/22/14 8:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Amazing. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/21/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-pick-up/ Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 380 is a 560, original poser, hmmm
280 (or a 2xx anyway) was the straight 6 and from my understanding was a fairly desirable car. -Curt Who might consider a 107 someday... Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 21:10:22 -0400 From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380 is a 560, original poser, hmmm Message-ID: cahonrr7uor8xkoo-4rkq8fnkc90k+q8fxpbw2w2xehsjgk4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well my gasser ignorance has just bitten my #!$. I thought a 380 would be a straight 6... Max Dillon, Who will defer all gasser questions to Hendrik from now on ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Too right. When my '85 went wrong it did it all at once and went VERY wrong. I was taking an offramp at speed (the day after a ChowdaQ actually) when all of a sudden the rear end went all weird. I thought we'd blown a tire... -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:32:34 -0400 From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black Message-ID: cahonrr5ztxkwplpbibahgbgsabrzym2v08-uoj2k9njqfxy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree with you and Hendrik that when a 201 has good suspension, it is a joy. I'm just agreeing with Jim that when a 201 or 124 goes bad, they can go REALLY bad. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them, they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was wire in rather than plug in. Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local dealers? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck
Noticed today that the gauge stays pegged at 3, car on/off/revving. What would cause that? Gauge in cluster busted? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck
If it's a W126, the gauge is electric, not mechanical. Full scale means the sender is grounded or the wire going to it, I believe. Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Noticed today that the gauge stays pegged at 3, car on/off/revving. What would cause that? Gauge in cluster busted? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:23:27 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D Message-ID: 5356a58f.2040...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck
Excellent, I'll check it next time i see it, as it just left a few minutes ago. --R On 4/22/14 4:01 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If it's a W126, the gauge is electric, not mechanical. Full scale means the sender is grounded or the wire going to it, I believe. Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Noticed today that the gauge stays pegged at 3, car on/off/revving. What would cause that? Gauge in cluster busted? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
No spring compressor is required, even though the book call for one. Did this on my '85 wagon when I rebuilt the rear suspension. Loosen strut connection at control arm. Bleed off pressure in SLS system. Lift the back of the car until all pressure is off the springs, pull them out. Need to be able to lift the rear fairly high. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 22, 2014 2:22 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Why not? -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring
Service manual assumes access to special tool plus they are not going to suggest that the springs can be removed without it. Lawyers would have a field day if things went wrong. With care the rear springs can be removed without compression, using a trolley jack. In one episode of wheeler dealer, the tall hairy one is seen to remove the rear springs out of a 201 without compression, very naughty. Could not find English version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aucrdPTfo4 Hendrik who once removed front springs without proper tool, scary stuff On 23/04/14 07:40, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Service manual says otherwise. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles
I don't think diameter is the thing so much, it's the strength of the spring, from memory there are numbers or colours on them to differentiate between the various types. Hendrik who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh that's right you operate in systems where nothing makes sense:-D ) On 23/04/14 04:01, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained the oil and replaced with exactly 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1. My issue is that the instructions for the dip stick say that for my Mercedes should have high level reading of 16.8 cm and a low reading being 14.8 cm. My measurement reads 11.0 cm and I am not sure why. I did an electronic check with the car's computer and it comes back OK. Any suggestions? Has anyone purchased a Genuine Mercedes Dip Stick? If so what is the part number? Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. Hendrik who also has scratches on the Merc caused by careless kids On 23/04/14 09:12, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
I think the number is 120589072100? When did you check the oil? Straight after running it? If so there will be oil all over the engine that needs to drain back. Hendrik whose cars have always come with a dipstick On 23/04/14 09:21, Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained the oil and replaced with exactly 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1. My issue is that the instructions for the dip stick say that for my Mercedes should have high level reading of 16.8 cm and a low reading being 14.8 cm. My measurement reads 11.0 cm and I am not sure why. I did an electronic check with the car's computer and it comes back OK. Any suggestions? Has anyone purchased a Genuine Mercedes Dip Stick? If so what is the part number? Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
That will not buff. That would need to be sanded and filled, then you might be able to fake it with judicious application of touch up paint. Will not look great, but better than right now. After you do the paint, you can buff. clay On Apr 22, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
I actually let it settle overnight. -Original Message- From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 8:06 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic I think the number is 120589072100? When did you check the oil? Straight after running it? If so there will be oil all over the engine that needs to drain back. Hendrik whose cars have always come with a dipstick On 23/04/14 09:21, Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained the oil and replaced with exactly 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1. My issue is that the instructions for the dip stick say that for my Mercedes should have high level reading of 16.8 cm and a low reading being 14.8 cm. My measurement reads 11.0 cm and I am not sure why. I did an electronic check with the car's computer and it comes back OK. Any suggestions? Has anyone purchased a Genuine Mercedes Dip Stick? If so what is the part number? Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained the oil and replaced with exactly 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1. My issue is that the instructions for the dip stick say that for my Mercedes should have high level reading of 16.8 cm and a low reading being 14.8 cm. My measurement reads 11.0 cm and I am not sure why. I did an electronic check with the car's computer and it comes back OK. Any suggestions? Is it possible for the dash readout to say 'overfilled', or is 'OK' the highest level? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
And I take it the car was parked level? This dipstick is for various engines so there are different instructions for different engines? From what I can see there are two possibilities, either the dipstick is wrong or the oil level is low. I don't think this company would go to the trouble of selling a tool that is wrong, mistakes do happen but oil level is pretty critical and they probably sell quite a few of these, so would be aware if there is a problem. Hendrik who has been known to be wrong On 23/04/14 09:57, Robert Koziak wrote: I actually let it settle overnight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Kaleb wrote: Is pervine still alive? I was hoping that someone from around there might be able to say something? Did John work for Matt? Did Matt move to ME? Does Gary know? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. That brings back memories of my boleadoras, which I only threw once. I'd seen a National Geographic special on some savages that hunted birds with them and made a set out of small stones and dental floss. Landed on the back window of Mom's Rambler, and though the stones were rather small, the spinning seemed to impart extra impact, shattered the whole window. Since it was safety glass it was still there, but effectively the whole window was opaque. Dad reported it to insurance as 'kid throwing stones' and it processed as a zero deductible comprehensive claim. A friend of mine got together with his brother and washed their dad's new car for a surprise. They used their mom's Brillo pads to get it good and clean. They said it looked great when it was wet, or they wouldn't have done every square inch of the car that way. That little act of kindness earned them the worst butt-whipping of their lives. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] i am now like penoff
Gary wrote: and have dropbox account :) Is that free? Is it any better than the google thing? ...what's it called?... picassa? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Cama moved to ME. Was pervine in atlanta too? On 4/22/2014 7:43 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Kaleb wrote: Is pervine still alive? I was hoping that someone from around there might be able to say something? Did John work for Matt? Did Matt move to ME? Does Gary know? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Could not find English version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aucrdPTfo4 Is this it? http://filenuke.com/e71cqif4l2we ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained the oil and replaced with exactly 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1. My issue is that the instructions for the dip stick say that for my Mercedes should have high level reading of 16.8 cm and a low reading being 14.8 cm. My measurement reads 11.0 cm and I am not sure why. I did an electronic check with the car's computer and it comes back OK. Any suggestions? Is it possible for the dash readout to say 'overfilled', or is 'OK' the highest level? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
clay wrote: That will not buff. Put the whole car in a time capsule. Stop driving it now. Replace all fluids for long term storage. This is going to be come known worldwide as SpencerArt and will surely be 6-figure piece at the 2038 Christie auction. Be encouraged - the kid is like his dad. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Kaleb wrote: Cama moved to ME. Was pervine in atlanta too? Pervine was in ATL. Cama moved north someplace and I thought I heard it was ME. Didn't he come from upstate NY? Where's Berryman when we need NY info. Canfield? - speak up. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
However Kaleb will have to get the young artist to sign the work. Didn't one of the Beatles paint a RR in psychedelic colours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbmDVeQ88W4 Hendrik who is not an artist On 23/04/14 10:23, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: That will not buff. Put the whole car in a time capsule. Stop driving it now. Replace all fluids for long term storage. This is going to be come known worldwide as SpencerArt and will surely be 6-figure piece at the 2038 Christie auction. Be encouraged - the kid is like his dad. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? My 1999 goes from 'OK' to 'add 1.0 quart'. The next stages are 'add 1.5 quarts' and 'add 2.0 quarts'. When it hits add 2.0 going down the road, you get an engine oil low alert on the message center. Since mine had 250k on the clock, if I add a cup at a time until it goes from 'add 1' to 'ok', within 7000 miles or so it'll be at 'low oil level'. Then I have to decide whether to dump an extra quart in, or change it despite it saying 'oil life 5200 miles'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
If they're down to primer or bare metal you're screwed. No Martha'ing could fix that. Martha/Poos/Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT safety first
Nice to see him using the hazard lights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwqEHbLh_QE Hendrik who has a little dump truck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
-Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
I suspect the system may be a bit more advanced than the earlier ones. Which only tell you if the oil falls below a certain level. Hendrik who has had the low oil light come on once or twice On 23/04/14 10:21, Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
My gmail doesn't put curt's messages in spam. Not on my smart phone or my laptop. YMMV. 5might be your security settings. On Apr 22, 2014 9:04 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic
Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? Oh, you were asking how to get the reading? Turn the key to 'on' but not to 'start', and leave it that way for 30 seconds or so until it says 'display oil level?', then tap the 0 button twice in quick succession. About a month ago, mine hit low (add 2 qts) right after I left the office. After it warmed up, I pulled over and it was add 1.5. Drove it home and parked it, figuring I'd change the oil after tax season was over. I've driven it about 100 miles in warmer weather since then, and never saw the low oil message again. It was at add 1.5 when I checked it just now. I filled it to just under a quart low when I changed it 7000 miles ago, and the FSS is saying I need to change it in another 5100 miles. Remember how Marshall used to say ideal level was right between the add and full lines on a dipstick? I've been filling the e320 by dumping in 7 quarts, running it a bit, letting it sit, and dumping about 8oz in at a time until it quit saying to add a quart. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:53:28 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh that's right you operate in systems where nothing makes sense:-D ) Now we know you Aussies are from another planet. In the Spring, plants spring from the ground. In the Fall, leaves fall to the ground. Simple. Logical. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles
Their drain spirals are screwed up as well. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:53:28 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh that's right you operate in systems where nothing makes sense:-D ) Now we know you Aussies are from another planet. In the Spring, plants spring from the ground. In the Fall, leaves fall to the ground. Simple. Logical. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:02:25 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Now that I cannot say; I've only worked on Sedans. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:29:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Make that red. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at on my S210. Don't know about your S123. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Try drcolorchip.com Their relatively thick rub-on paint system may fill it in... I actually just ordered some of their kits for my Caledonia Green 300D and my Horizon Blue 280SEL 4.5, since the original touch-up sticks are NLA from MBUSA. I haven't tried the kits yet, but the colour looks correct. D. On 4/23/14, Kaleb wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 300sd oil pressure gauge
If w126 Gauge will read max if wire at sender is off or circuit is open. I found This out when I changed the oil pan a couple of months ago.Thanks Ron Courcy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Check your insurance. Some policies include vandalism. Gerry On 4/22/2014 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If they're down to primer or bare metal you're screwed. No Martha'ing could fix that. Martha/Poos/Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Yes. Dead easy. Just be careful about corrosion: aluminium and salt are a bad combo, so you may find that you have stripped threads, esp the bleed valve. Might want to give everything a good soaking with Liquid Wrench in case it helps. Also, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you remove the control lever from the valve shaft. Disconnect the lever from the linkage, but leave it attached to the shaft or you'll disturb the designed relationship between the position of the lever and the control disc inside the valve. On 4/23/14, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Mountain ManSent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
