Folks
My 82 300td had been running like crap. The intake and exhaust manifolds were
falling off … three nuts were missing out of 7
We pulled it all apart. Everything was full of soot. LOTS OF SOOT. I've been
covered in grease and carbon black for days. We cleaned it all.
Since the turbo
I would try any 3000+lbs car that had the following characteristics:
50+ mpg, exceptional repair record over time, back lid or door,
large luggage deck space/volume, diesel cost per mile equivalent to gasoline
cost per mile, large installed base (parts availability), comfortable ride, 2
motive
How many miles on that beast now?
Soot: Given your choice of fuel, I wonder if the injection pump timing can
be adjusted to reduce soot? Blocking or deleting the EGR valve will help
tremendously.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 11, 2014 2:30 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
ATTABOY a comin'.
Wilton
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Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Folks
My 82 300td had been running like crap.
it's the bottom feeders' lament
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:20 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
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I would try any 3000+lbs car that had the following characteristics:
50+ mpg, exceptional repair record over time, back lid or door,
large luggage deck space/volume, diesel
Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked
300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized
bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I
wrecked it, eh?
Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-
A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road
driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that
huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative
braking.
They do great in town, but not so good long distance.
My uncle likes his, bought
Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg
combined city and highway.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml
Gerry
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500
Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
A Prius for me would be a
Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg,
35-40 is the norm.
-Curt
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Careful, DImitri. You need to be kidnapped by the Toyota goon squad and
reprogrammed.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
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Not all electric cars are fruity. The Prius on the other hand
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On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:33
Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap
used.one.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
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Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D
fixed, they had to bore out the housing and
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my
15 mile RT commute?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway
A cheap used one is always a gamble.
IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special
turbo different than the other 124 300Ds?
-Curt
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To: Peter Frederick
So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can
quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck
purchasing used turbos.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
A cheap used one is always a gamble.
My experience with used parts is that if they're not broken, they won't
break. I should point out that my annual highway mileage is quite low,
however.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:
So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and
The W124 300D uses the same turbo as the 86-87 SDL, but not the same
one as the later 300Ds with the 5 cylinder (those had servo controlled
boost, not mechanical). Not very many around, and I'd not trust any
used turbo, it would have to go and get checked out before I
bothered to install
Rebuilding shouldn't be a gamble, a rebuilt unit should have a warranty. If it
doesn't its not a reputable rebuilder.
-Curt
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It is nearly impossible to tell if a turbo is good just by looking at
it or turning the compressor by hand.
Really need to have someone with the proper tools measure bearing
clearance , and if it's used it's gonna fail much sooner than one that
has just been rebuilt.
I'll look just for
Advertised rebuild price is $550, about what I expected since it cost
me $400 or so 12 years ago when I did the one in the Volvo. Hopefully
that won't be much worse from oil starvation damage, I'll probably
haul it down tomorrow as my brother is doing the swap in the SDL
tonight.
Makes
Ebay has a used one (with manifolds, that I don't need, I have two
sets already) for $450. For the extra couple hundred I'll get mine
fixed, that way I know it's good!
Peter
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For that short distance nearly any hybrid or electric would do. Price would,
of course, depend on year and condition. Personally, I wouldn't buy a pure
electric since the price would be about the same or more than a hybrid, and
their usefulness would be limited. Actually, for that short
An electric would be perfect for that distance. I'd lease a Leaf since its a
real 4 seater and can be had for about the same price as a Smart.
Curt
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Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg,
35-40 is the norm.
Sounds about right.
I was thinking Peter mistyped 22 for 42, but I also thought Gerry's 40 minimum
was off,
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my
15 mile RT commute?
Too bad GM crushed all the Impacts.
IIRC there are a few older Ford Rangers and Toyota RAV4s out there.
VoltsRabbits might be an option, but quality would
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
IIRC there are a few older Ford Rangers and Toyota RAV4s out there.
RAV4s seem a bit steep:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/4632687513.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ctd/4646038862.html
http://search.ebay.com/191322297471
Fords are probably a
Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners?
We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing
some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth
glass top stove in the kitchen.
The burner works well to boil water in the
All hybrids get worse long distance highway milage than the equivalent
sized non-hybrid because you have an undersized engine dragging a huge
battery with little or no regenerative braking -- when do you lift
your foot completely off the gas on the interestate? That means you
use battery
I've never leased a car before. What are th costs?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
An electric would be perfect for that distance. I'd lease a Leaf since its
a real 4 seater and can be had for about the same price as a Smart.
Curt
Buy a new burner, they are about $15 --try one of the Louisiana
places. Or you can just get a new orifice, make sure it's one of the
0.040 ones. You have too much gas and not enough air, partially
because the casing of the burner is rough, but mostly because the
orifice is too large and
Too late! I've already notified them. [:o)
Gerry
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:55:42 -0400
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Careful, DImitri. You need to be kidnapped by the Toyota goon squad and
reprogrammed.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage
regulator, that did not help.
Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to
have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing,
I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new
There should be an air adjuster on the unit, open it all the way and look
around inside to see if a spider has built a nest. Apparently spiders love
propane and they just love to crawl into propane burners.
Once you get the nest cleared out you may have to play with the air adjustment
a little
I remember reading something about it in the not so distant past, IIRC parts
availability was a big problem if diodes inside the alternator had failed.
I rebuilt the starter/generator on my Cub Cadet 70 last winter but thats just 2
bearings and 2 brushes, easy.
-Curt
Volt?
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On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my
15 mile RT commute?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bike!
--R
On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my
15 mile RT commute?
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I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a
bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd
easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being
sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes.
Nah, I'd get too sweaty.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind
a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is
he'd easily get 8 months of
I did this a long time ago on a Volvo 122S with success, so it could not
have been too difficult; but back then such parts kits were readily
available.
Greg
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Here's a little documentation on the Prius C (city car) as well as the standard
Prius.
http://priuschat.com/threads/real-world-highway-mpg-75-85-mph-speeds.131591/#axzz3D1oYth4e
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:19:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage
regulator, that did not help.
Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace?
I was going to suggest taking it to your
I was a rear seat passenger in a Prius in Massachusetts a few years ago.
Didn't much care for the busy dash lights and obstructed rear view. I
would love to get a Leaf but used ones at a decent price are hard to find
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
http://www.roadandtrack.com/features/web-originals/the-most-fuel-efficient-car-in-america-is-a-luxury-car
If you're doing highway driving and not around town, the E250 looks like the
way to go. Too bad MBUSA Doesn't import the stripped down taxi cab version. I'd
be on that.
Rick
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I don't think there are any spider nests as I only bought this thing on
Saturday and it came sealed in plastic. The air adjuster is wide open.
It is supposedly a 55000 btu unit so I cannot run it wide open. Once the
water boils I have to turn it down a lot to control the heat. I think
the water
How unique is the MB alternator?
Would an alternator for some other vehicle fit?
I know some of the folks into powerful car stereos change to much bigger
alternators. I assume they are aftermarket items and not OEM.
Would something like that retrofit to an MB without too much trouble?
RB
On
I'd still poke something around in through the air adjuster hole. For lantern
cleaning I use the lump end of a zip tie. There could be a piece of casting
flash or some sand or other schmegma inside. Otherwise its got a crappy
oversized jet. Box it up and take it back.
Then go on Craigslist and
I will have a look inside the casting. I intend to pull it apart and
check the orifice size and the quality of the casting.
I see on line that one can buy a better looking casting for not too much
money. Would like to see if I can improve this one first however.
We are not going to use it a lot
just ride easier.
that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do
further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full
suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly
sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,...
cheers!
e
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A coleman stove is way too small for canning, you likely need to boil
a big vat of water (or cook down 15 quarts of tomatoes at once) and
you need a BIG burner.
The burners that come with turkey friers are often crap. I think I
got my from some place with the word Cajun it the name, but
Funny, a lot of people can on their kitchen stove...
People today are in such a hurry. A Coleman stove will boil big water, just use
the right size stove which is why I suggested a 413 instead of a little 425.
Lots of people don't know that Coleman made more than one size stove. In fact
they
Turkey friers usually run 70,000 to 95,000 btu. Lotta heat. I don't
use anywhere near that much for canning.
Not to knock coleman stoves, but a propane burner is much more
convenient if you also have a propane grill.
Peter
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Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function
doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk
do work. TIA
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
before bursting into flame. It is even worse than down here in the Low
Country.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
just ride easier.
that
Usually corroded contacts. If you can see them, spray them down with
DeOxit or some other contact cleaner and cycle them a while, usually
clears up the problem.
Mine doesn't work on the 300D but I'm too lazy to fix them.
Peter
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On Sep 11, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:19:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage
regulator, that did
We have the flat smooth glass top stove so my wife does not want to use it.
We have our previous stove in the basement but too much stuff around it
to use it right now.
Plus, all that steam etc inside is a bit much.
Doing it outdoors seems the way to do it.
I wish I had a bigger yard. I would
Prius are not cheep. The clapped out ones that were fleet cars sell for high
KBB around here. they get painted yellow and become taxi. Used to be cop
cars that got sold for that. Bottom price is above $6k for first gen
clay
On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
summer are brutal for riding. i really only ride about 6 or 7 months a
year down here.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
before bursting into flame. It is even
I'd bicycle here but I have no desire to end up as a hood ornament.
Only safe in groups, people drive like idiots and there is no
shoulder, in fact usually a 3 to 6 drop off the pavement into a ditch.
Used to bike all the time in graduate school, wish I still lived
somewhere I could.
check the fuse for the Optical Horn.
cheers!
e
On 11/Sep/14 15:11, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:
Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function
doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk
do work. TIA
G. M. Brown
Brevard,
how big does the yard need to be? My cousin has a great little kitchen built
with a smoker, mini fridge, large gas grill, sink, and scads of counter space.
Maybe all of 8x8, stone walls and fiberglass roof. The flat part of the yard
is 15x25, and surrounded by hilly garden.
clay
On Sep
My experience repairing one was not good. My 79 300TD (123/617) had a bad
diode in the rectifier. I bought a new rectifier and replaced the rectifier
assembly (soldering required). The first new rectifier failed so replaced
it again. The second new rectifier failed so then I bought e Bosch
Folks
Well, i drove the car today
It runs really well and is so quiet that i can again hear the turbo whine …. i
think i could even get a speeding ticket, now … as always on WVO
MUCH IMPROVED
we'll see how the turbo does. I was dripping a few drops of oil on the lower
drain side, but
When my alternator died on Gump, I found a great local shop to rebuild instead
of getting a FLAPs unit. Superior job on the rebuild, enough that I installed
in the SL after parting the w115. Cost was an initial consideration. This
time I would have Gary, sexy parts seller to all right minded
Thanks Craig, guess I've got to get dirty to find out what's possible.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 11, 2014 2:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
If you can source the diodes, taking it apart and testing each of the
diodes with an ohmmeter is a start. Once you have it
Thanks Scott, I think my alternator is a different model, I'll consider
your tale and attempt to find quality parts if I end up going this route.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 11, 2014 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
My experience repairing one was not good. My 79 300TD
ATTABOY!
Wilton
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Subject: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td
Folks
Well, i drove the car today
It runs really well and
thanks, man
i'm sure most of the improvement was getting the manifolds attached and sealed
correctly
thanks,
xx rick
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On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:13 PM, WILTON
Huh? Wazzat?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
check the fuse for the Optical Horn.
cheers!
e
On 11/Sep/14 15:11, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:
Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing)
function
check the fuse for the Optical Horn.
Huh? Wazzat?
That's what DBAG calls the flash function on the stalk.
It has its own fuse, though it's shared with other functions.
-- Jim
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