Re: [MBZ] Tire source

2014-10-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:45:55 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel
 wrote:

> Almost as distinguished are Kumho, the tire essence of Seoul.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumho_Tires

Kumho Tire Co., Inc. LSE: KHTC, formerly known as Samyang Tire, is a
South Korean tire company. Headquartered in Gwangju, South Korea, it is a
subsidiary of the Kumho Asiana Group, along with Asiana Airlines, South
Korea's second largest airline.

Kumho means "bright lake" in the Korean language.

An industrial conglomerate chaebol, Kumho Tires manufactures a full range
of tires under the Kumho and Marshal brands.

Kumho Tires runs three manufacturing facilities in South Korea: the
Pyeongtaek Plant, the Gokseong Plant and the Gwangju Plant which includes
the Kumho Research and Development center mentioned below. There are a
further three plants in China: the Tianjin Plant, the Gaoxin Plant (in
Nanjing) and the Changchun Plant. There is also one plant in Vietnam in
the Binh Duong Province.[3]

Kumho Tires exports tires worldwide and has a global network of sales
organizations.

It has three centers for research and development, with the largest in
Gwangju, South Korea. The other two centers are in Akron, Ohio and
Birmingham, West Midlands. These service the US and European tire markets
respectively. Other research centers are located in Buchholz (Germany)
and Tianjin (China).

in 2011, China Central Television (CCTV) disclosed that, there were
serious irregularities in the tire production process of Kumho tires. It
reuses a lot of mixing in the production process, is not in accordance
with its standard to produce. March 21, 2011 afternoon, the president of
Kumho Tire (Kim Jong-ho), and president of Kumho Tire China (Li Hanxie)
released the official statement of apology through CCTV, and announced
the recall of all the illegal products.[4]


3.  http://www.kumhotire.com/company/info/info_position02.jsp
4.  http://finance.qq.com/a/20110321/006013.htm?pgv_ref=aio



http://www.kumhousa.com/owners/tire/rebates-promotions?utm_source=kumhousa&utm_medium=homepage_tout&utm_content=fall_rebate_tout&utm_campaign=7445Y

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Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-17 Thread Regina Striplin via Mercedes
I totally want one!  


Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone

 Original message From: Dan Penoff 
 Date:10/14/2014  7:44 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Mercedes Discussion List ,Banned List 
 Subject: [Banned] Rear Sunshade Modification 

Just found this really cool rear sunshade modification that allows you to 
give feedback to other drivers.  I think I might try this on the S420...

http://mbworld.org/articles/perfect-solution-tailgaters/

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] dynamat

2014-10-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I could only find it at Best Buy.  Some local stereo installers had it, too, 
but they wanted stupid money (more stupid than BB wanted) for it.

I think the box I bought to cover the inside of the SL hard top was around $80. 
 The stuff weighs a ton, so if you're buying it online best to find someone who 
does free shipping.

Dan


On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

> Do auto parts stores sell that stuff or should I order some off the 
> intertubez?
> 
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[MBZ] dynamat

2014-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Do auto parts stores sell that stuff or should I order some off the 
intertubez?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] 85 w123 gyide rod bushings

2014-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 A common problem with the W123/126 front end is worn out upper  
control arms.  Only about 6" long, but if they are bad you get noise  
and crooked front tracking, hence extreme tire wear.


Not that hard to replace.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Tire source

2014-10-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Almost as distinguished are Kumho, the tire essence of Seoul.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:32:57 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I checked these guys previously. The best deal they have are on some
> > Sumitomos, but they only have a wear rating of like 320 for a little
> > over $600.
> >
> > If I go up to $720, I can get Hankooks with a 500 rating.
> >
> > I believe both of these are Korean brands?
> ---
>
> http://www.sumitomotire.com/History.aspx
>
> History
>
> Sumitomo's personality, found in the products and the daily operations of
> Sumitomo Tire, is shaped by a company history extending more than 350
> years. The history of Sumitomo dates back to the early 17th century, when
> Masatomo Sumitomo (1585-1652) opened a book and medicine shop in Kyoto.
> [Japan]
> Later in life, he created his Founder's Precepts, which laid out his
> business philosophy. The Sumitomo Business Principles, stressing
> integrity and sound management, were originally based on Masatomo's
> Precepts and have been a central force shaping the spirit of each
> Sumitomo company for more than 350 years. Sumitomo's initial mainstay
> business was copper mining. It later diversified into a variety of fields
> including finance, insurance, iron and steel, real estate, and trade.
> Today, Sumitomo is acknowledged as one of Japan's leading business groups.
>
> Sumitomo's igeta symbol represents the freshness in spirit and substance,
> like the never-ending flow of a spring, that we at Sumitomo bring to the
> tire business. As an American company with roots in Japan, we continually
> demonstrate our ability to draw from the well of American and Japanese
> heritage, and bring forth fresh commitments to success.
>
> http://www.sumitomotire.com/news.aspx
>
> Palm Beach Gardens, FL – August 26, 2014 –Consumers who purchase a set of
> 4 Sumitomo HTR ENHANCE performance touring tires between September 1 and
> October 17 will have the opportunity to receive a $50 VISA prepaid gift
> card as part of the “Enhance your Drive, Enhance your Savings” mail–in
> rebate promotion.
>
> CONTACT US VIA MAIL OR PHONE
>
> Sumitomo Tire
> 4300 TBC Way
> Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410-4248
>
> ---
>
> http://hankooktireusa.com/Comp/Companypf.aspx?pageNum=5&subNum=3&ChildNum=1
>
> About Hankook Tire Co., Ltd
>
> Hankook Tire (CEO: Seung Hwa Suh) is the seventh largest and one of the
> fastest growing tire manufacturers in the world. It produces innovative,
> superior quality, and high performance radial tires for passenger cars,
> 4x4, SUVs, light trucks, campers, trucks, buses and for automobile
> motorsport. It invests approximately five per cent of revenue in research
> and development and develops cutting-edge technologies through its five
> global R&D Centers meeting regional customer demands and enhancing
> customer satisfaction. Selling in 185 countries around the world, the
> company has more than 14,000 employees. Approximately 70 percent of
> revenue comes from growing overseas sales.
>
> Hankook Tire Co., Ltd. Fast Facts
>
> Seventh largest tire manufacturer in the world.
> Recorded sales of USD 3.7 billion in 2008, an increase of 5.1 percent
> from USD 3.5 billion in 2007 Hankook plans to increase production
> globally by 5 million units, manufacturing 78 million tires in 2009
> Developer and manufacturer of radial tires for passenger cars, light
> trucks (SUVs, RVs, etc.), trucks, buses and motorsports vehicles; it aims
> to produce 74 million tires in 2008 and currently sells tires in 185
> countries with 14,000 employees globally 5 production facilities, located
> in China, Hungary and Korea 60 sales offices, 13 sales subsidiaries, five
> R &D centers, two OE offices 6 percent of employees dedicated to and 5
> percent of its revenues invested in R&D Performing remarkably in China’s
> passenger-car radial-tire market, with a 25 percent share, making it the
> market leader
>
>
> Hankook Tire Co., Ltd. History
>
> Founded in 1941
> 1979 - Built Daejeon, Korea plant
> 1981 - Established Hankook Tire America Corporation
> 1982 - Established the Main R&D Center (Korea) in Daejeon
> 1992 - Opened first overseas facility and R&D Center in Akron, Ohio
> 1994 - Hankook Tire established its Beijing branch in China
> 1994 - Received ISO 9001
> 1997 - Established of Europe Technical Center (ETC)
> 1997 - Completed Keumsan, Korea plant
> 1998 - Established China Technical Center (CTC)
> 1998 - Received QS-9000 in 1997 and ISO 14001
> 1999 - Completed Jiangsu (China) and Jiaxing (China) plant
> 2000 - Introduced ERP System
> 2001 - Opened Europe Distribution Center (EDC) in the Netherlands
> 2003 - Established strategic alliance with Michelin
> 2003 - Certified wi

Re: [MBZ] 85 w123 gyide rod bushings

2014-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I replaced these on a 123 and a 126, no problems with them but the cars 
did not get a lot of miles after the R&R, so can't share any experience 
in that regard.


You might want to check all the suspension bits on that side, ball 
joints, control arms, tie rods.


--R


On 10/17/14 5:34 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

OE vs aftermarket on the front guide rod bushings where they attach to body?

I put the gold ones in on the teailing ends about seven years ago and the
right one failed after maybe two years with it rumbling in the floorboard
on rough pavement. Probably less than 20k miles on it before it went.

My car eats left front tires like no tomorrow even after alignment.

Dealer wants over 200 a copy for the aft bushing. Frankly that would have
been a bargain compared to the gold ones. What do you guys think? All
aftermarket ones seem to fail early per the forums.

Thanks,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Usual.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, 650 -700 cold.  Is that unusual?
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>
> > 700?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Ralph Robertson via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: "Randy Bennell" 
> > Cc: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
> >
> >
> >  what is the normal idle speed?  I will check again when it's warm.  It
> >> doesn't sound like a fast idle.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is
> really
>  in
>  the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the
> reverse.
>  The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
>  Ralph
> 
>  On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey 
>  wrote:
> 
>   My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears,
> however,
> 
> > when
> >
> >  putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear
> >> rather
> >> harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.
> >>
> >>  Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
> >>
> > what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
> > the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
> > relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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[MBZ] 85 w123 gyide rod bushings

2014-10-17 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
OE vs aftermarket on the front guide rod bushings where they attach to body?

I put the gold ones in on the teailing ends about seven years ago and the
right one failed after maybe two years with it rumbling in the floorboard
on rough pavement. Probably less than 20k miles on it before it went.

My car eats left front tires like no tomorrow even after alignment.

Dealer wants over 200 a copy for the aft bushing. Frankly that would have
been a bargain compared to the gold ones. What do you guys think? All
aftermarket ones seem to fail early per the forums.

Thanks,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
Yes, 650 -700 cold.  Is that unusual?

Ralph


On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> 700?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Ralph Robertson via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Randy Bennell" 
> Cc: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
>
>
>  what is the normal idle speed?  I will check again when it's warm.  It
>> doesn't sound like a fast idle.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>  Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really
 in
 the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
 The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
 Ralph

 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:

  My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however,

> when
>
>  putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear
>> rather
>> harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.
>>
>>  Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
>>
> what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
> the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
> relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

May pop a wheelie at 7K - or an axle.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
To: "Ralph Robertson" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting



H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -

RB

On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really 
in

the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
Ralph

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey  
wrote:


My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, 
when
putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear 
rather

harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.


Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.

-- Jim







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Re: [MBZ] Tire source

2014-10-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:32:57 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I checked these guys previously. The best deal they have are on some
> Sumitomos, but they only have a wear rating of like 320 for a little
> over $600.
> 
> If I go up to $720, I can get Hankooks with a 500 rating.
> 
> I believe both of these are Korean brands? 
---

http://www.sumitomotire.com/History.aspx

History

Sumitomo's personality, found in the products and the daily operations of
Sumitomo Tire, is shaped by a company history extending more than 350
years. The history of Sumitomo dates back to the early 17th century, when
Masatomo Sumitomo (1585-1652) opened a book and medicine shop in Kyoto.
[Japan]
Later in life, he created his Founder's Precepts, which laid out his
business philosophy. The Sumitomo Business Principles, stressing
integrity and sound management, were originally based on Masatomo's
Precepts and have been a central force shaping the spirit of each
Sumitomo company for more than 350 years. Sumitomo's initial mainstay
business was copper mining. It later diversified into a variety of fields
including finance, insurance, iron and steel, real estate, and trade.
Today, Sumitomo is acknowledged as one of Japan's leading business groups.

Sumitomo's igeta symbol represents the freshness in spirit and substance,
like the never-ending flow of a spring, that we at Sumitomo bring to the
tire business. As an American company with roots in Japan, we continually
demonstrate our ability to draw from the well of American and Japanese
heritage, and bring forth fresh commitments to success. 

http://www.sumitomotire.com/news.aspx

Palm Beach Gardens, FL – August 26, 2014 –Consumers who purchase a set of
4 Sumitomo HTR ENHANCE performance touring tires between September 1 and
October 17 will have the opportunity to receive a $50 VISA prepaid gift
card as part of the “Enhance your Drive, Enhance your Savings” mail–in
rebate promotion.

CONTACT US VIA MAIL OR PHONE

Sumitomo Tire
4300 TBC Way
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410-4248 

---

http://hankooktireusa.com/Comp/Companypf.aspx?pageNum=5&subNum=3&ChildNum=1

About Hankook Tire Co., Ltd

Hankook Tire (CEO: Seung Hwa Suh) is the seventh largest and one of the
fastest growing tire manufacturers in the world. It produces innovative,
superior quality, and high performance radial tires for passenger cars,
4x4, SUVs, light trucks, campers, trucks, buses and for automobile
motorsport. It invests approximately five per cent of revenue in research
and development and develops cutting-edge technologies through its five
global R&D Centers meeting regional customer demands and enhancing
customer satisfaction. Selling in 185 countries around the world, the
company has more than 14,000 employees. Approximately 70 percent of
revenue comes from growing overseas sales.

Hankook Tire Co., Ltd. Fast Facts

Seventh largest tire manufacturer in the world.
Recorded sales of USD 3.7 billion in 2008, an increase of 5.1 percent
from USD 3.5 billion in 2007 Hankook plans to increase production
globally by 5 million units, manufacturing 78 million tires in 2009
Developer and manufacturer of radial tires for passenger cars, light
trucks (SUVs, RVs, etc.), trucks, buses and motorsports vehicles; it aims
to produce 74 million tires in 2008 and currently sells tires in 185
countries with 14,000 employees globally 5 production facilities, located
in China, Hungary and Korea 60 sales offices, 13 sales subsidiaries, five
R &D centers, two OE offices 6 percent of employees dedicated to and 5
percent of its revenues invested in R&D Performing remarkably in China’s
passenger-car radial-tire market, with a 25 percent share, making it the
market leader


Hankook Tire Co., Ltd. History

Founded in 1941
1979 - Built Daejeon, Korea plant
1981 - Established Hankook Tire America Corporation
1982 - Established the Main R&D Center (Korea) in Daejeon
1992 - Opened first overseas facility and R&D Center in Akron, Ohio
1994 - Hankook Tire established its Beijing branch in China
1994 - Received ISO 9001
1997 - Established of Europe Technical Center (ETC)
1997 - Completed Keumsan, Korea plant
1998 - Established China Technical Center (CTC)
1998 - Received QS-9000 in 1997 and ISO 14001
1999 - Completed Jiangsu (China) and Jiaxing (China) plant
2000 - Introduced ERP System
2001 - Opened Europe Distribution Center (EDC) in the Netherlands
2003 - Established strategic alliance with Michelin
2003 - Certified with ISO/TS 16949
2004 - Unveiled new Corporate Identity
2005 - Completion of Keumsan, Korea test track (G’Trac)
2005 - Selected as strategic partner of Ford
2006 - Started construction of new plant in Hungary in July
2006 - Entered into Technical Agreement with premium car maker Audi
 

Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

700?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Ralph Robertson via Mercedes" 

To: "Randy Bennell" 
Cc: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting



what is the normal idle speed?  I will check again when it's warm.  It
doesn't sound like a fast idle.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell  
wrote:



H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -

RB


On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:


Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really
in
the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
Ralph

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey 
wrote:

 My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however,

when

putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear 
rather

harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.

 Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is

what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.

-- Jim








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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
sorry, reading it wrong, it is 700, not 7000.
Ralph

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ralph Robertson  wrote:

> what is the normal idle speed?  I will check again when it's warm.  It
> doesn't sound like a fast idle.
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
>
>> H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
>> On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really
>>> in
>>> the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
>>> The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however,
 when

> putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear
> rather
> harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.
>
>  Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
 what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
 the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
 relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.

 -- Jim



>>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
what is the normal idle speed?  I will check again when it's warm.  It
doesn't sound like a fast idle.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -
>
> RB
>
>
> On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really
>> in
>> the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
>> The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however,
>>> when
>>>
 putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
 harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.

  Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
>>> what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
>>> the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
>>> relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle -

RB

On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really in
the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
Ralph

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:


My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when

putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.


Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.

-- Jim







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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up.  The lurch is really in
the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse.
The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear.
Ralph

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when
>> putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
>> harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.
>>
>
> Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
> what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
> the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
> relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tire source

2014-10-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I checked these guys previously. The best deal they have are on some Sumitomos, 
but they only have a wear rating of like 320 for a little over $600.

If I go up to $720, I can get Hankooks with a 500 rating.

I believe both of these are Korean brands? Anyone have experience with either 
one?

Thanks,

Dan

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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> People wanted to know where I purchased up my $50 H rated Goform 195x70x14
> tires.
> 
> Delticom North America
> Business unit www.tires-easy.com
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Re: [MBZ] Tire source

2014-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

People wanted to know where I purchased up my $50 H rated Goform 195x70x14
tires.

Delticom North America
Business unit www.tires-easy.com



This started with you asking about the $34 GoForm tires this summer, right?
Is that what you bought?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, 
when
putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear 
rather

harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.


Idle speed?  The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is
what drags it down to 'normal'.  Any problem with the wiring, or
the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection
relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Flex disc(s)?  Transmission, differential mounts?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Oct 17, 2014 6:59 AM, "Ralph Robertson via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when
> putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
> harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.  Quite a
> difference in shifting from the normal forward gears shifting on the go.
> Can this be addressed thru some adjustment?
> Thanks.
> Ralph '87 300SDL
>   "84 300CD
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when
putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.  Quite a
difference in shifting from the normal forward gears shifting on the go.
Can this be addressed thru some adjustment?


Might be a real easy adjustment.
What's your idle speed?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting

2014-10-17 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when
putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather
harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing.  Quite a
difference in shifting from the normal forward gears shifting on the go.
Can this be addressed thru some adjustment?
Thanks.
Ralph '87 300SDL
  "84 300CD
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