Re: [MBZ] OT Coz

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What are you talking about  He's as RW as they come.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Billy Bob, a good comm.-er, ah, Demorcrap rapes women and it is He He, tee
 he

 Cos, may or may not have had sex, and it is Hang him!  He dares to speck
 the truth about race and gooberment.

 Obviously NOT a good Party man

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No mention of price, or did I miss it?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price:


 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353

 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I never heard about any shut down of US lead mining.  Please send me a link
to this story.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 What's the difference between a group 49 and the cheaper one?


 I really don't know what the difference is between 49, 93, T8 and H8.
 There's none that I can see.
 Apparently H8 is the new name for 49, and T8 is the same as 93, but
 what's the difference between 49 and 93?
 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: OT Coz

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That doesn't make him a racist.  The old movies were racist.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Bob via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Drove my Mercedes [ MB content ] past his mansion many times  we were
 aware of the out of court settlement he had in 2005-6. He even had sex at
 his
 house,not with his wife.
  Not only he is a rapist but also a racist.He bought up all  the
 Our Gang movies so that we the public will never see them again. Why  ??
 Because he didn't like the way Buckwheat was portrayed...BTW...I
 don't
 remember Buckwheat slipping any pills .

   Bob
 '83 240D  212 k
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[MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What would you do with thousands of tons of leftover nutshells? It's a
question that Turkey — the world's third-biggest producer of pistachios,behind
Iran and the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistachio#Cultivation — has been asking
itself for years.

Usually discarded pistachio shells end up in landfills, but nut-loving
Turks think they've found a far better solution by turning it into biogas,
an alternative fuel produced by the breakdown of organic matter.

Now Turkey wants to use pistachio shells to power its first eco-city, which
will require fermenting tons of the green waste in so-called digesters, and
then using the resulting gases — mostly methane — to generate heat.
[image: A rendering of Turkey's first eco-city, will be founded between
Gaziantep and Kilis province on Turkey's border with Syria in the country's
southern Gaziantep region.]i
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/11/20/365315940/turkey-looks-for-energy-in-an-abundant-resource-pistachio-shells?utm_source=utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=11731#

A rendering of Turkey's first eco-city, will be founded between Gaziantep
and Kilis province on Turkey's border with Syria in the country's southern
Gaziantep region.
Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

The idea is not as odd as it sounds. For starters, the green city will be
built in what's arguably the best possible location: Gaziantep Province.
This southern region near the Syrian border is the heart of Turkey's
pistachio production, yielding more than half of the country's nuts.

When you plan such environment-friendly systems, you take a look at the
natural resources you have. So we thought the ecological city could be
heated by burning pistachio shells, explains Seda Muftuoglu Gulec, the
municipality's expert on green architecture. If the region was abundant in
wind power, we would use wind energy.

This peculiar source of energy is renewable and cheap because Turkey has
plenty of shells to go around, so much so that it exported 6,800 tons of
pistachios last year — 500 tons shy of the weight of the Eiffel Tower —
according to the Southeast Anatolia Exporters Union.

Experts say turning pistachios into biogas, while untested, is not only
technically feasible but also extremely convenient. Burgeap, the French
environmental engineering company http://www.burgeap.fr/ that first
proposed the idea to the government, claims that nutshells are the most
efficient source of alternative energy in the region and could satisfy up
to 60 percent of the city's heating needs.

The planned 7,900-acre, nut-fueled city will be six miles from the
province's capital city, Gaziantep, and is expected to become home to
200,000 people.

This is Turkey's first attempt at building an eco-city, and it will be the
only one in the world that's heated by pistachios — although in
Australiamacadamia
nutshells are already being turned into biomass
http://www.power-technology.com/projects/suncoast-gold/. Meanwhile, in
Monterrey, Mexico, the methane generated from decaying garbage
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/04/biogas-from-garbage-powers-monterreys-city-lights/
 is being converted into electricity to illuminate city lights.
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Researchers Experiment With Algae-Based Biofuel
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Green cities being built in other countries are based on other renewable
sources. In China, for example, Tianjin Eco-city will be finished by 2020
http://www.tianjinecocity.gov.sg/, with most of its energy coming from
solar panels. In India, Narendra Modi wants to build Dholera, a smart
city twice the size of Mumbai
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/apr/17/india-smart-city-dholera-flood-farmers-investors
 that would be powered by various renewable energies, including wind. But
skeptics doubt these idealistic projects will ever be fully realized,
insisting that the plans are too expensive and detached from local reality.

For now, Gaziantep's municipality is waiting for the results of exhaustive
feasibility reports. Gulec says it's too soon to estimate how much it will
cost, but if the project gets greenlighted, construction of the new city
will start in the next two years.

A pilot scheme will start with a 135-acre piece of land and, if successful,
expand into an entire city during the next following two decades. If the
project bears fruit, it might inspire other agricultural regions to look at
how to convert what they typically consider waste into fuel for the future.
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 

 On November 21, 2014 at 9:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I never heard about any shut down of US lead mining. Please send me a link to
 this story.
 

 

Not mining, smelting.
Where have you been for the past year?
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/no-back-door-gun-control/
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Missouri has what is/was known as the lead belt, somewhat of a misnomer
as they are also major source of Zn.

Andrew
Recovering geologist

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



  On November 21, 2014 at 9:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Previous comments suggested US lead production had ceased. Than can be
 no
  production w/o mining, which AFAIK is still permitted.
 

 With no primary smelters (the kind that refine ore dug from the ground), I
 don't
 know how much mining is currently taking place. Anything dug out of the
 ground
 gets exported now that there's no place to smelt it here. I suspect
 there's a
 good bit of demand in China but I don't know if they have their own mining
 sources.


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Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Follow the money - NOAA gets more by keeping the scam going, as do many of
the other so-called global warming scientists.

NOAA has been caught red-handed changing the historical data, read all
about it:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA

Yet another clue: all the proposed solutions are more government regulation
(more taxes), bigger government to impose the regulations, and ultimately
higher energy costs for consumers.  Very little discussion focuses on the
benefits of a warming globe.

There is no scientific consensus that man is causing a global warming
crisis:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

Much of the U.S. population is beginning to realize that after years and
years of scare-mongering, common sense and a little education reveals that
the earths climate has ALWAYS been changing.  Oceans rise and fall,
coastlines change, glaciers advance and retreat.  Nothing at all we can do
to stop it - that is how God created this earth.  Even if we could reduce
the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which the global warming scare-mongers
admit can only account for about a very small percent of any warming, we
can do nothing to stop the natural cycles of the sun, which account for 95%
of the remaining warming/cooling.

Unfortunately, under the current Barrack Hussein Obama administration, the
EPA will continue to be used to promote the political global warming
agenda which is really a pretense for expanding government.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel.  Much more realistic
for building a off the grid system.  Storing and using the gas to power
an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is
needed for comfortable living.  Add a solar power system charging a few
lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light
source.

With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car /
truck around?

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car /
truck around?


Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That should give 
you a general idea.


http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx

Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with a full wood 
supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a pound of chunks ..


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[MBZ] Should Make All Us White Guys Feel Proud

2014-11-21 Thread Van Knutson via Mercedes
Nothing remarkable about the article, but I thought the headline was interesting
Florida State Senate Talks About Bubba Watson's Length
 I hear he never carries anything less than a 3 wood into the bedroom

DBV
Florida state senate talks about Bubba Watson's length

|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Florida state senate talks about Bubba Watson's lengthBubba Watson is long as 
hell with all of his clubs and the Florida state senate makes sure everybody 
knows about it. |
|  |
| View on www.cbssports.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |


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[MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert facilities 
was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining room was set up as 
a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on the serving line: for 
example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; 
for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked 
potatoes, French fries, carrots, beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had breakfast, I 
was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server (his master sergeant 
supervisor leaning against the wall behind him watching and listening) on 
the serving line asked me what I would like to have.

   “A steak and French fries, please.”
   His reply, “Sir, you can’t have French fries with steak.”
   I asked, “Why not?”
   He replied, “Sir, if you want French fries, you’ll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you’ll have to 
get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or cheeseburger; baked 
potato goes with steak.”

   I told him, “I don’t want a baked potato, I want French fries.”
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate.  I 
reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, “I’m going to get some French 
fries with it.”
   He insisted, “The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; the 
baked potato goes with the steak.”
   Now, I began to lose my patience, “I’m a highly-trained professional 
whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation’s topmost secrets.  Our 
commanders have confined me here on alert ready to launch at a moment’s 
notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you’re 
telling me I’m forbidden to have French fries with my steak?  You put some 
French fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!”  (Never before nor since 
have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am embarrassed to have done 
so.  I said it more so in protest of the dining facility’s policy and for 
the benefit of the master sergeant supervisor rather than so much to the 
young airman, who was merely following the sergeant’s instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the lunch 
of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had their choice 
of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me).  He told me that 
the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on having French 
fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of that highest of US 
military headquarters.  He said that he had related the story to the SECDEF 
and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding 
officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly 
battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what history 
records. 



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Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)

2014-11-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I feel like the right has done itself a disservice by claiming that global 
warming is a myth. They could accurately claim that man-made causes of global 
warming is a myth but the earth is warming and sea levels are rising but to say 
there is no global warming just doesn't make any sense...
-Curt
  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com; Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)
   
Follow the money - NOAA gets more by keeping the scam going, as do many of
the other so-called global warming scientists.

NOAA has been caught red-handed changing the historical data, read all
about it:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA

Yet another clue: all the proposed solutions are more government regulation
(more taxes), bigger government to impose the regulations, and ultimately
higher energy costs for consumers.  Very little discussion focuses on the
benefits of a warming globe.

There is no scientific consensus that man is causing a global warming
crisis:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

Much of the U.S. population is beginning to realize that after years and
years of scare-mongering, common sense and a little education reveals that
the earths climate has ALWAYS been changing.  Oceans rise and fall,
coastlines change, glaciers advance and retreat.  Nothing at all we can do
to stop it - that is how God created this earth.  Even if we could reduce
the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which the global warming scare-mongers
admit can only account for about a very small percent of any warming, we
can do nothing to stop the natural cycles of the sun, which account for 95%
of the remaining warming/cooling.

Unfortunately, under the current Barrack Hussein Obama administration, the
EPA will continue to be used to promote the political global warming
agenda which is really a pretense for expanding government.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Many farms are already way out in front of this using poo from farm animals 
mixed with farm wastes like stalks to make methane to power equipment and heat 
and whatnot.
-Curt
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 To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
   
I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel.  Much more realistic
for building a off the grid system.  Storing and using the gas to power
an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is
needed for comfortable living.  Add a solar power system charging a few
lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light
source.

With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car /
truck around?

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato 
with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp 
with me.
and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french 
fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also 
very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually 
although I'm not sure I understand why...
-Curt
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; WILTON 
wilt...@nc.rr.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:11 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
   
SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   
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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car /
truck around?


Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That 
should give you a general idea.


http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx

Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with 
a full wood supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a 
pound of chunks ..




http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=3548
Steve Nunnikhoven was ahead of MEN

There is a 1936? Mercedes in the Deutschesmuseum that was converted 
to wood gas during WWII, with the generator on the back of the car.


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Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

In the hottest year on record, U.S. remains a cool place -- NOAA



Predictable:  record cold and record snow, and record ice on the ice 
caps, so the whiners get out the global warming press release.


They must have had a global warming conference in Buffalo this week.

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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

What was being done 30 years ago also.


Many farms are already way out in front of this using poo from farm 
animals mixed with farm wastes like stalks to make methane to power 
equipment and heat and whatnot.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a 
baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought 
around 30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier 
than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You missed it. $1800, I believe.

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No mention of price, or did I miss it?
 
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price:
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353
 
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[MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think this has been discussed before.  Isn't there a type of electrical
wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated
flexing?  I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of
individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick.

I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to
cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for
the front doors and for the rear hatch.

Thanks,
Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)

2014-11-21 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Nov 21, 2014 1:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I feel like the right has done itself a disservice by claiming that
global warming is a myth. They could accurately claim that man-made causes
of global warming is a myth but the earth is warming and sea levels are
rising but to say there is no global warming just doesn't make any sense...

I'm not sure the deniers were the ones that advocated that global warming
as a myth.  I remember hearing the arguments that human-caused CO2
emissions were irrelevant relative to the rest of the sources of CO2, and
that rising temperatures might be good, as far back as the mid-90s when
Larry Burkett was talking about it.  I suspect the climate change denier
was just a shorthand that got a lot of media play.  Now that's all muddied
by people who think they are supposed to believe whatever because it was on
TV, but I don't think the leadership has changed much.

If nothing else, the whole thing is an object lesson in being careful to
frame your position from the outset.  For example, rather than a
vermin-infested wreck rusting away, I prefer to think of the 300D as a
pre-restoration example of mid-twentieth century engineering.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'd need more than that just to take the car off their hands.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You missed it. $1800, I believe.

 Sent from my iPad

  On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  No mention of price, or did I miss it?
 
  On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price:
 
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353
 
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why guess?  That's easy to check.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I think this has been discussed before.  Isn't there a type of electrical
 wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated
 flexing?  I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of
 individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick.

 I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to
 cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for
 the front doors and for the rear hatch.

 Thanks,
 Max
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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Stranded wire.  You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN.  I have a 
load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few feet at 
Lowes or HD.


--R


On 11/21/14 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I think this has been discussed before.  Isn't there a type of electrical
wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated
flexing?  I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of
individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick.

I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to
cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for
the front doors and for the rear hatch.

Thanks,
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Is bad reverse easily fixable?  i.e., tranny is not necessarily buggered?

--R


On 11/21/14 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

You missed it. $1800, I believe.

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

No mention of price, or did I miss it?


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago.  My grandmother used 
lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, cooking, 
burns, and just about everything else.  Nothing is better.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked 
potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 
30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier 
than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 21/11/2014 12:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me 
that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on 
having French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of 
that highest of US military headquarters.  He said that he had related 
the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a 
good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an 
outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having 
won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control 
over what history records.


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I should think, that the folks high up at the Pentagon were in total 
agreement with you and enjoyed hearing the tale of how you stood up for 
your yourself and essentially defeated a petty rule.

Obviously evidence of your training and fitness to command.

Good Job!

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
No you want the most and finest strands available.  I would salvage 
some of the appropriate wire size out of a car in the junkyard.  that 
way you get insulation made to be flexible in cold and fine strands, 
and if you are creative, you can even get the right color coding.


THNN has  strands that are too thick and the insulation if not flexible enough

Type MW would be the closest.

Stranded wire.  You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN.  I have 
a load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few 
feet at Lowes or HD.


--R


On 11/21/14 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I think this has been discussed before.  Isn't there a type of electrical
wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated
flexing?  I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of
individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick.

I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to
cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for
the front doors and for the rear hatch.

Thanks,
Max


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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
When I go to all the trouble of opening the door panel and checking for
continuity, I'd rather have all the material and tools on-hand so I can
immediately fix the problem.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Why guess?  That's easy to check.

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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Is that different from what was installed by MB?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Stranded wire.  You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN.  I have a
 load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few feet at
 Lowes or HD.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
   Which reminds me:  Mama always made some mighty fine buttermilk 
biscuits.  One afternoon a few months before she died at 99 years and 3 
months in April of '96, I visited her for a couple of hours.  During that 
time, I asked her to tell me the details, step-by-step, how she made 
biscuits.
   She replied, Well, you get your breadboard (a scooped-out, elongated, 
wooden bowl that Daddy made for her soon after they married in 1915), and 
you put some flour in it and push the flour out from the center to make a 
low place where you start pouring the buttermilk and start mixing.  You pour 
some buttermilk (use water if you don't have buttermilk,  but it's a lot 
better with buttermilk) in the low place in the middle of the flour.  Then 
start mixing the buttermilk and the flour with your fingers.  As you get a 
little bit mixed, swirl it around a little bit and pull in a little more 
flour.  Soon after you get the mixing going, reach into the lard pail and 
get a pinch of lard and add it to the mixture.
   This was the point I was waiting for and interjected, with laughter, A 
pinch, Hell, Mama, it was a hand full!
   Then she jumped me, Where did you learn to cuss like that?  You didn't 
learn to talk like that around here!
   I retorted, again, with laughter, Well, I'll be damned, Mama, all I 
said was 'Hell.'

   She continued, Well, there's no need to cuss like that.
   I continued, Yes, I know, Mama, I was just testing you - wondering if 
you were still as feisty about that as always.  I was just kidding.  But I 
think you'll have to agree that the lard in the biscuits was a little more 
than a pinch.

   She agreed, Yes, that and the buttermilk are what made 'em so good.
   We had a good laugh and hugged enthusiastically.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING



Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked 
potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# 
back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make 
french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french 
fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than 
vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? 
I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home 
rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It makes an amazing 
difference.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
ATTABOY  +1 for Randy's comment.  Obviously evidence of your 
training and fitness to command.



SAC ALERT DINING -
BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES
By Wilton Strickland

   The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert 
facilities was most often very good, possibly too good.  The dining 
room was set up as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices 
on the serving line: for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled 
eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, 
hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, 
carrots, beans, corn, etc.
   One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had 
breakfast, I was first in line for lunch.  The airman/cook/server 
(his master sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him 
watching and listening) on the serving line asked me what I would 
like to have.

   A steak and French fries, please.
   His reply, Sir, you can't have French fries with steak.
   I asked, Why not?
   He replied, Sir, if you want French fries, you'll have to get a 
hamburger or a cheeseburger.  If you want potato with steak, you'll 
have to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or 
cheeseburger; baked potato goes with steak.

   I told him, I don't want a baked potato, I want French fries.
   He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate. 
I reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, I'm going to get 
some French fries with it.
   He insisted, The French fries go with the 
hamburger/cheeseburger; the baked potato goes with the steak.
   Now, I began to lose my patience, I'm a highly-trained 
professional whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation's 
topmost secrets.  Our commanders have confined me here on alert 
ready to launch at a moment's notice and strike targets in the 
Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you're telling me I'm 
forbidden to have French fries with my steak?  You put some French 
fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!  (Never before nor 
since have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am 
embarrassed to have done so.  I said it more so in protest of the 
dining facility's policy and for the benefit of the master sergeant 
supervisor rather than so much to the young airman, who was merely 
following the sergeant's instructions.)
   The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy 
the lunch of my choice.  Henceforth, all diners at the alert 
facility had their choice of fries or baked potato.
Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The 
Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me).  He told 
me that the story of the highly-trained professional who insisted 
on having French fries with his steak was well known in the halls 
of that highest of US military headquarters.  He said that he had 
related the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom 
had a good laugh over it.
I would rather have been known there for having been an 
outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for 
having won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have 
little control over what history records.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Oh!  I forgot about pie dough.  We actually tried to make a better 
dough with lard, and ended up using butter flavor crisco.  BUT (a big 
one)  the lard we used was store plasticized lard.  It is not much 
different than the vein pluggin crisco.  I suspect if I were to 
repeat the trials with real home rendered lard (that will spoil) the 
results would be different.


The store lard is hydrogenated  the same as crisco so it won't spoil. 
Anything that does not spoil is not really food, and is not good for 
you.  Margarine, shortening, store lard, McD hamburger etc.



Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago.  My grandmother 
used lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, 
cooking, burns, and just about everything else.  Nothing is better.


--R


On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Which reminds me of 2 things.
#1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a 
baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought 
around 30# back from camp with me.

and
#2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to 
make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to 
french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, 
easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I 
understand why...

-Curt

#2:  Yes sir!  Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use 
lard?   I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made 
without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff.   It 
makes an amazing difference.


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Isn't no reverse a symptom of a bad B2 piston?

Dan

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 On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is bad reverse easily fixable?  i.e., tranny is not necessarily buggered?
 
 --R
 
 
 On 11/21/14 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 You missed it. $1800, I believe.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No mention of price, or did I miss it?
 
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price:
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this 
week at my house.

-Curt
  From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries
   

Yeah, it probably wouldn't work up north in the winter and might not work down 
here in the winter. Even a pair of them (450 CCA) might not work in the winter.
Gerry



Curt Raymond wrote:
 Might work reasonably well when its warm out but 225CCA is 1/4 what a group 
 49 battery is capable of. Based on the price it sounds like capacity is sold 
 linearly...
 -Curt
      From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries
    
 When I was bench testing several alternators last summer, I put the shop 
 battery, a $29.xx 225 CCA garden tractor battery, in the '83 300D; drove to 
 town with A/C on, went to several stores, and drove home with no problem.
 Thought about installing 2 in parallel ($58.xx) so car would still start if 
 one went bad, but tray was not quite long enough.
 Gerry...who likes to experiment
 
 
 
 Craig wrote:
  Since the battery in our '82 240D/3.0 died last week, I went looking for
  a replacement battery for it.
  WOW! Have battery prices gone through the roof!
  AutoZone wanted $150 - $175.
  NAPA wanted $184.
  Thanks,
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think that only reverse gear is the classic symptom of a failed B2
piston.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Nov 21, 2014 5:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Isn't no reverse a symptom of a bad B2 piston?

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I worked on several biogas projects through Purdue University in the late 
70s/early 80s based at total confinement hog farms in the Lafayette, IN area. 
The smallest had roughly 2,000 head under one roof and it generated more than 
enough biogas to provide heat and power a standby generator.

They were looking at ways to use it as motor fuel on the farm for powering the 
farm equipment and trucks but were having difficulties due to the low BTU 
content.

Worked well for heating, though.

Biogas installations are common at large wastewater treatment plants and 
landfills. The city of Gary or Hammond (IN), I can't remember which, had a huge 
digester and biogas recovery system that generated electricity for the plant 
and surrounding city buildings.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel.  Much more realistic
 for building a off the grid system.  Storing and using the gas to power
 an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is
 needed for comfortable living.  Add a solar power system charging a few
 lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light
 source.
 
 With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
 system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
 wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car /
 truck around?
 
 -Max
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Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells

2014-11-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html

RB


On 21/11/2014 12:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor
system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor.  I
wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive 
a car /

truck around?


Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That 
should give you a general idea.


http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx 



Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with a 
full wood supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a pound 
of chunks ..




http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=3548
Steve Nunnikhoven was ahead of MEN

There is a 1936? Mercedes in the Deutschesmuseum that was converted to 
wood gas during WWII, with the generator on the back of the car.


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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread MG via Mercedes
Just bought a used battery for my TD about two weeks ago. The 
local Upull had 6 big batteries with the audi symbol on them. I 
decided to give one a try at $60. Took out the 4 year old 
autozone gold that wouldn't start the car any more and lifted in 
the used one. First thing I noticed was that the 'new' used 
battery was about half again heavier then the AZ gold. So far 
even at the 24deg that it was here on Monday the battery didn't 
have any problem starting the car. I like it and at $60 I can buy 
two of them if this one fails in a couple of years, if they still 
continue to carry them.


Manfred

Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:47:28 + (UTC)
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Yeah, I paid $125 for a group 48 for the Jetta at Car Quest last 
year. If you've got a Car Quest try them, my local Autozone 
wanted $150.

-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Batteries

Since the battery in our '82 240D/3.0 died last week, I went 
looking for

a replacement battery for it.

WOW! Have battery prices gone through the roof!

AutoZone wanted $150 - $175.
NAPA wanted $184.

Is that the case across the U.S.?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices

2014-11-21 Thread MG via Mercedes
Last Sat I stopped to fill up in the Ocala forest. The place 
there has some really good prices. $3.20 a gallon. too bad I only 
get to stop there on my way to Orlando every now and then. The 
usual price around here is $3.47 or so right now.


Manfred


Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:23:20 -0500
From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

Rockville, MD Shell station has diesel for $3.25, credit card 
price.  Time

for all you troglodytes to move to the Free State.

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

 On November 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning
 this week at my house.
 
At my house it's been below freezing every minute this week, and below 15°F
every morning.
Brrr.
 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors

2014-11-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes




There's some very soft stuff sold for R/C models, like 400-600 strands with hi
temp silicone insulation.
I wouldn't know where to get it in industrial quantities.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php/deans-12-gauge-wet-noodle-wire-2ft-randb.html

http://store.robobugs.net/index.php?main_page=pageid=4

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread MG via Mercedes
My granddaughter was sitting here reading with me, she's 9 and 
she said it was 44. ;-) I think she may be right.


Manfred

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:13:55 -0500
From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com

 but
what's the difference between 49 and 93?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global warming 
watchers!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM
 To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries
 
 Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning
 this week at my house.
 
 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
When you distort the data  (or just make it up) your statistics can 
prove whatever you want.


Read the book  How to Lie with Statistics  50's cartoons, but still 
right on the money.





And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global 
warming watchers!



 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM
 To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries

 Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning
 this week at my house.


  -Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's all Bush's fault and the republicans 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 When you distort the data  (or just make it up) your statistics can prove 
 whatever you want.
 
 Read the book  How to Lie with Statistics  50's cartoons, but still right 
 on the money.
 
 
 
 
 And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global warming 
 watchers!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM
 To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries
 
 Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning
 this week at my house.
  -Curt
 
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[MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

2014-11-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2014-11-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Paid $20 for the used autocraft battery for The White Whale, I get a couple
years from it I'll be happy.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2



Still better than a cheep or a FIat

But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. 
Too much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.


AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of 
the newer ones.



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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

2014-11-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Amen.
On Nov 21, 2014 9:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-
 BBezB2q#image=2
 


 Still better than a cheep or a FIat

 But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too
 much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.

 AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the
 newer ones.


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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

2014-11-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Curly is really Loren, right?

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 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2
 
 
 Still better than a cheep or a FIat
 
 But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too much 
 un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.
 
 AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the newer 
 ones.
 
 
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[MBZ] OT Even the kids are catching on

2014-11-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/kids-give-first-lady-sarcastic-thanks-on-twitter/ar-BBf6Sw1?ocid=mailsignout


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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300 cd for parts available for sale

2014-11-21 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Dwight, et al.Paatz?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

From: ro...@craigslist.org
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: 1985 300 cd for parts available for sale
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:16:10 -0800




fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:



1985 300 cd for parts available for sale
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/4770790905.html




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