Re: [MBZ] OT Coz
What are you talking about He's as RW as they come. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Billy Bob, a good comm.-er, ah, Demorcrap rapes women and it is He He, tee he Cos, may or may not have had sex, and it is Hang him! He dares to speck the truth about race and gooberment. Obviously NOT a good Party man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
No mention of price, or did I miss it? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
I never heard about any shut down of US lead mining. Please send me a link to this story. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: What's the difference between a group 49 and the cheaper one? I really don't know what the difference is between 49, 93, T8 and H8. There's none that I can see. Apparently H8 is the new name for 49, and T8 is the same as 93, but what's the difference between 49 and 93? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: OT Coz
That doesn't make him a racist. The old movies were racist. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Bob via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Drove my Mercedes [ MB content ] past his mansion many times we were aware of the out of court settlement he had in 2005-6. He even had sex at his house,not with his wife. Not only he is a rapist but also a racist.He bought up all the Our Gang movies so that we the public will never see them again. Why ?? Because he didn't like the way Buckwheat was portrayed...BTW...I don't remember Buckwheat slipping any pills . Bob '83 240D 212 k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
What would you do with thousands of tons of leftover nutshells? It's a question that Turkey — the world's third-biggest producer of pistachios,behind Iran and the United States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistachio#Cultivation — has been asking itself for years. Usually discarded pistachio shells end up in landfills, but nut-loving Turks think they've found a far better solution by turning it into biogas, an alternative fuel produced by the breakdown of organic matter. Now Turkey wants to use pistachio shells to power its first eco-city, which will require fermenting tons of the green waste in so-called digesters, and then using the resulting gases — mostly methane — to generate heat. [image: A rendering of Turkey's first eco-city, will be founded between Gaziantep and Kilis province on Turkey's border with Syria in the country's southern Gaziantep region.]i http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/11/20/365315940/turkey-looks-for-energy-in-an-abundant-resource-pistachio-shells?utm_source=utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=11731# A rendering of Turkey's first eco-city, will be founded between Gaziantep and Kilis province on Turkey's border with Syria in the country's southern Gaziantep region. Anadolu Agency/Getty Images The idea is not as odd as it sounds. For starters, the green city will be built in what's arguably the best possible location: Gaziantep Province. This southern region near the Syrian border is the heart of Turkey's pistachio production, yielding more than half of the country's nuts. When you plan such environment-friendly systems, you take a look at the natural resources you have. So we thought the ecological city could be heated by burning pistachio shells, explains Seda Muftuoglu Gulec, the municipality's expert on green architecture. If the region was abundant in wind power, we would use wind energy. This peculiar source of energy is renewable and cheap because Turkey has plenty of shells to go around, so much so that it exported 6,800 tons of pistachios last year — 500 tons shy of the weight of the Eiffel Tower — according to the Southeast Anatolia Exporters Union. Experts say turning pistachios into biogas, while untested, is not only technically feasible but also extremely convenient. Burgeap, the French environmental engineering company http://www.burgeap.fr/ that first proposed the idea to the government, claims that nutshells are the most efficient source of alternative energy in the region and could satisfy up to 60 percent of the city's heating needs. The planned 7,900-acre, nut-fueled city will be six miles from the province's capital city, Gaziantep, and is expected to become home to 200,000 people. This is Turkey's first attempt at building an eco-city, and it will be the only one in the world that's heated by pistachios — although in Australiamacadamia nutshells are already being turned into biomass http://www.power-technology.com/projects/suncoast-gold/. Meanwhile, in Monterrey, Mexico, the methane generated from decaying garbage http://cleantechnica.com/2013/03/04/biogas-from-garbage-powers-monterreys-city-lights/ is being converted into electricity to illuminate city lights. javascript:NPR.Player.openPlayer(301005600, 301005603, null, NPR.Player.Action.PLAY_NOW, NPR.Player.Type.STORY, '0') Researchers Experiment With Algae-Based Biofuel javascript:NPR.Player.openPlayer(301005600, 301005603, null, NPR.Player.Action.PLAY_NOW, NPR.Player.Type.STORY, '0') javascript:NPR.Player.openPlayer(245473238, 245474392, null, NPR.Player.Action.PLAY_NOW, NPR.Player.Type.STORY, '0') Is Running Your Car On Rubbish The Future Of Fuels? javascript:NPR.Player.openPlayer(245473238, 245474392, null, NPR.Player.Action.PLAY_NOW, NPR.Player.Type.STORY, '0') Green cities being built in other countries are based on other renewable sources. In China, for example, Tianjin Eco-city will be finished by 2020 http://www.tianjinecocity.gov.sg/, with most of its energy coming from solar panels. In India, Narendra Modi wants to build Dholera, a smart city twice the size of Mumbai http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/apr/17/india-smart-city-dholera-flood-farmers-investors that would be powered by various renewable energies, including wind. But skeptics doubt these idealistic projects will ever be fully realized, insisting that the plans are too expensive and detached from local reality. For now, Gaziantep's municipality is waiting for the results of exhaustive feasibility reports. Gulec says it's too soon to estimate how much it will cost, but if the project gets greenlighted, construction of the new city will start in the next two years. A pilot scheme will start with a 135-acre piece of land and, if successful, expand into an entire city during the next following two decades. If the project bears fruit, it might inspire other agricultural regions to look at how to convert what they typically consider waste into fuel for the future. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
On November 21, 2014 at 9:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I never heard about any shut down of US lead mining. Please send me a link to this story. Not mining, smelting. Where have you been for the past year? http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/no-back-door-gun-control/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Missouri has what is/was known as the lead belt, somewhat of a misnomer as they are also major source of Zn. Andrew Recovering geologist On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On November 21, 2014 at 9:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Previous comments suggested US lead production had ceased. Than can be no production w/o mining, which AFAIK is still permitted. With no primary smelters (the kind that refine ore dug from the ground), I don't know how much mining is currently taking place. Anything dug out of the ground gets exported now that there's no place to smelt it here. I suspect there's a good bit of demand in China but I don't know if they have their own mining sources. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)
Follow the money - NOAA gets more by keeping the scam going, as do many of the other so-called global warming scientists. NOAA has been caught red-handed changing the historical data, read all about it: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA Yet another clue: all the proposed solutions are more government regulation (more taxes), bigger government to impose the regulations, and ultimately higher energy costs for consumers. Very little discussion focuses on the benefits of a warming globe. There is no scientific consensus that man is causing a global warming crisis: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/ Much of the U.S. population is beginning to realize that after years and years of scare-mongering, common sense and a little education reveals that the earths climate has ALWAYS been changing. Oceans rise and fall, coastlines change, glaciers advance and retreat. Nothing at all we can do to stop it - that is how God created this earth. Even if we could reduce the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which the global warming scare-mongers admit can only account for about a very small percent of any warming, we can do nothing to stop the natural cycles of the sun, which account for 95% of the remaining warming/cooling. Unfortunately, under the current Barrack Hussein Obama administration, the EPA will continue to be used to promote the political global warming agenda which is really a pretense for expanding government. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel. Much more realistic for building a off the grid system. Storing and using the gas to power an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is needed for comfortable living. Add a solar power system charging a few lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light source. With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That should give you a general idea. http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with a full wood supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a pound of chunks .. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Should Make All Us White Guys Feel Proud
Nothing remarkable about the article, but I thought the headline was interesting Florida State Senate Talks About Bubba Watson's Length I hear he never carries anything less than a 3 wood into the bedroom DBV Florida state senate talks about Bubba Watson's length | | | | | | | | | | | Florida state senate talks about Bubba Watson's lengthBubba Watson is long as hell with all of his clubs and the Florida state senate makes sure everybody knows about it. | | | | View on www.cbssports.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
SAC ALERT DINING - BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES By Wilton Strickland The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert facilities was most often very good, possibly too good. The dining room was set up as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on the serving line: for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, carrots, beans, corn, etc. One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had breakfast, I was first in line for lunch. The airman/cook/server (his master sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him watching and listening) on the serving line asked me what I would like to have. “A steak and French fries, please.” His reply, “Sir, you can’t have French fries with steak.” I asked, “Why not?” He replied, “Sir, if you want French fries, you’ll have to get a hamburger or a cheeseburger. If you want potato with steak, you’ll have to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or cheeseburger; baked potato goes with steak.” I told him, “I don’t want a baked potato, I want French fries.” He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate. I reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, “I’m going to get some French fries with it.” He insisted, “The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; the baked potato goes with the steak.” Now, I began to lose my patience, “I’m a highly-trained professional whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation’s topmost secrets. Our commanders have confined me here on alert ready to launch at a moment’s notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you’re telling me I’m forbidden to have French fries with my steak? You put some French fries on that plate with a steak right NOW!” (Never before nor since have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am embarrassed to have done so. I said it more so in protest of the dining facility’s policy and for the benefit of the master sergeant supervisor rather than so much to the young airman, who was merely following the sergeant’s instructions.) The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the lunch of my choice. Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had their choice of fries or baked potato. Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on having French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of that highest of US military headquarters. He said that he had related the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it. I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what history records. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)
I feel like the right has done itself a disservice by claiming that global warming is a myth. They could accurately claim that man-made causes of global warming is a myth but the earth is warming and sea levels are rising but to say there is no global warming just doesn't make any sense... -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com; Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA) Follow the money - NOAA gets more by keeping the scam going, as do many of the other so-called global warming scientists. NOAA has been caught red-handed changing the historical data, read all about it: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA Yet another clue: all the proposed solutions are more government regulation (more taxes), bigger government to impose the regulations, and ultimately higher energy costs for consumers. Very little discussion focuses on the benefits of a warming globe. There is no scientific consensus that man is causing a global warming crisis: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/ Much of the U.S. population is beginning to realize that after years and years of scare-mongering, common sense and a little education reveals that the earths climate has ALWAYS been changing. Oceans rise and fall, coastlines change, glaciers advance and retreat. Nothing at all we can do to stop it - that is how God created this earth. Even if we could reduce the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which the global warming scare-mongers admit can only account for about a very small percent of any warming, we can do nothing to stop the natural cycles of the sun, which account for 95% of the remaining warming/cooling. Unfortunately, under the current Barrack Hussein Obama administration, the EPA will continue to be used to promote the political global warming agenda which is really a pretense for expanding government. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
Many farms are already way out in front of this using poo from farm animals mixed with farm wastes like stalks to make methane to power equipment and heat and whatnot. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel. Much more realistic for building a off the grid system. Storing and using the gas to power an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is needed for comfortable living. Add a solar power system charging a few lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light source. With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
Which reminds me of 2 things. #1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp with me. and #2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING SAC ALERT DINING - BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES By Wilton Strickland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That should give you a general idea. http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with a full wood supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a pound of chunks .. http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=3548 Steve Nunnikhoven was ahead of MEN There is a 1936? Mercedes in the Deutschesmuseum that was converted to wood gas during WWII, with the generator on the back of the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)
In the hottest year on record, U.S. remains a cool place -- NOAA Predictable: record cold and record snow, and record ice on the ice caps, so the whiners get out the global warming press release. They must have had a global warming conference in Buffalo this week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
What was being done 30 years ago also. Many farms are already way out in front of this using poo from farm animals mixed with farm wastes like stalks to make methane to power equipment and heat and whatnot. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
Which reminds me of 2 things. #1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp with me. and #2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why... -Curt #2: Yes sir! Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff. It makes an amazing difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
You missed it. $1800, I believe. Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No mention of price, or did I miss it? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
I think this has been discussed before. Isn't there a type of electrical wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated flexing? I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick. I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for the front doors and for the rear hatch. Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 hottest year on record (except maybe the USA)
On Nov 21, 2014 1:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I feel like the right has done itself a disservice by claiming that global warming is a myth. They could accurately claim that man-made causes of global warming is a myth but the earth is warming and sea levels are rising but to say there is no global warming just doesn't make any sense... I'm not sure the deniers were the ones that advocated that global warming as a myth. I remember hearing the arguments that human-caused CO2 emissions were irrelevant relative to the rest of the sources of CO2, and that rising temperatures might be good, as far back as the mid-90s when Larry Burkett was talking about it. I suspect the climate change denier was just a shorthand that got a lot of media play. Now that's all muddied by people who think they are supposed to believe whatever because it was on TV, but I don't think the leadership has changed much. If nothing else, the whole thing is an object lesson in being careful to frame your position from the outset. For example, rather than a vermin-infested wreck rusting away, I prefer to think of the 300D as a pre-restoration example of mid-twentieth century engineering. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
I'd need more than that just to take the car off their hands. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You missed it. $1800, I believe. Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No mention of price, or did I miss it? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
Why guess? That's easy to check. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think this has been discussed before. Isn't there a type of electrical wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated flexing? I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick. I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for the front doors and for the rear hatch. Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
Stranded wire. You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN. I have a load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few feet at Lowes or HD. --R On 11/21/14 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I think this has been discussed before. Isn't there a type of electrical wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated flexing? I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick. I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for the front doors and for the rear hatch. Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
Is bad reverse easily fixable? i.e., tranny is not necessarily buggered? --R On 11/21/14 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You missed it. $1800, I believe. Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No mention of price, or did I miss it? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago. My grandmother used lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, cooking, burns, and just about everything else. Nothing is better. --R On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Which reminds me of 2 things. #1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp with me. and #2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why... -Curt #2: Yes sir! Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff. It makes an amazing difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
On 21/11/2014 12:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: SAC ALERT DINING - BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES By Wilton Strickland Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me that the story of the “highly-trained professional who insisted on having French fries with his steak” was well known in the halls of that highest of US military headquarters. He said that he had related the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it. I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what history records. ___ I should think, that the folks high up at the Pentagon were in total agreement with you and enjoyed hearing the tale of how you stood up for your yourself and essentially defeated a petty rule. Obviously evidence of your training and fitness to command. Good Job! RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
No you want the most and finest strands available. I would salvage some of the appropriate wire size out of a car in the junkyard. that way you get insulation made to be flexible in cold and fine strands, and if you are creative, you can even get the right color coding. THNN has strands that are too thick and the insulation if not flexible enough Type MW would be the closest. Stranded wire. You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN. I have a load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few feet at Lowes or HD. --R On 11/21/14 2:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I think this has been discussed before. Isn't there a type of electrical wire suitable for use in a situation that subjects the wire to repeated flexing? I think that maybe wire which has a very high number of individual copper wires in the bundle is what would do the trick. I've got a couple of electrical gremlins in my '87 wagon that I need to cast out, and I am suspicious of broken wires at the accordion joints for the front doors and for the rear hatch. Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
When I go to all the trouble of opening the door panel and checking for continuity, I'd rather have all the material and tools on-hand so I can immediately fix the problem. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Why guess? That's easy to check. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
Is that different from what was installed by MB? On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Stranded wire. You could probably use some #12 or #14 THHN. I have a load of it in many colors if you need any, or you can buy a few feet at Lowes or HD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
Which reminds me: Mama always made some mighty fine buttermilk biscuits. One afternoon a few months before she died at 99 years and 3 months in April of '96, I visited her for a couple of hours. During that time, I asked her to tell me the details, step-by-step, how she made biscuits. She replied, Well, you get your breadboard (a scooped-out, elongated, wooden bowl that Daddy made for her soon after they married in 1915), and you put some flour in it and push the flour out from the center to make a low place where you start pouring the buttermilk and start mixing. You pour some buttermilk (use water if you don't have buttermilk, but it's a lot better with buttermilk) in the low place in the middle of the flour. Then start mixing the buttermilk and the flour with your fingers. As you get a little bit mixed, swirl it around a little bit and pull in a little more flour. Soon after you get the mixing going, reach into the lard pail and get a pinch of lard and add it to the mixture. This was the point I was waiting for and interjected, with laughter, A pinch, Hell, Mama, it was a hand full! Then she jumped me, Where did you learn to cuss like that? You didn't learn to talk like that around here! I retorted, again, with laughter, Well, I'll be damned, Mama, all I said was 'Hell.' She continued, Well, there's no need to cuss like that. I continued, Yes, I know, Mama, I was just testing you - wondering if you were still as feisty about that as always. I was just kidding. But I think you'll have to agree that the lard in the biscuits was a little more than a pinch. She agreed, Yes, that and the buttermilk are what made 'em so good. We had a good laugh and hugged enthusiastically. - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING Which reminds me of 2 things. #1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp with me. and #2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why... -Curt #2: Yes sir! Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff. It makes an amazing difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
ATTABOY +1 for Randy's comment. Obviously evidence of your training and fitness to command. SAC ALERT DINING - BATTLE OF THE FRENCH FRIES By Wilton Strickland The usual dining fare at Strategic Air Command (SAC) alert facilities was most often very good, possibly too good. The dining room was set up as a small cafeteria, with a short list of choices on the serving line: for example, for breakfast; cereal, scrambled eggs, grits, sausage, bacon, ham; for lunch and/or dinner, steak, hot dogs, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, baked potatoes, French fries, carrots, beans, corn, etc. One day in 1974 at Kincheloe AFB, MI, because I had not had breakfast, I was first in line for lunch. The airman/cook/server (his master sergeant supervisor leaning against the wall behind him watching and listening) on the serving line asked me what I would like to have. A steak and French fries, please. His reply, Sir, you can't have French fries with steak. I asked, Why not? He replied, Sir, if you want French fries, you'll have to get a hamburger or a cheeseburger. If you want potato with steak, you'll have to get a baked potato - French fries go with hamburger or cheeseburger; baked potato goes with steak. I told him, I don't want a baked potato, I want French fries. He put my steak back and started to put a hamburger on my plate. I reminded him that I had asked for a steak and, I'm going to get some French fries with it. He insisted, The French fries go with the hamburger/cheeseburger; the baked potato goes with the steak. Now, I began to lose my patience, I'm a highly-trained professional whom Congress has entrusted with some of the nation's topmost secrets. Our commanders have confined me here on alert ready to launch at a moment's notice and strike targets in the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons, and you're telling me I'm forbidden to have French fries with my steak? You put some French fries on that plate with a steak right NOW! (Never before nor since have I ordered an enlistee in such a manner, and am embarrassed to have done so. I said it more so in protest of the dining facility's policy and for the benefit of the master sergeant supervisor rather than so much to the young airman, who was merely following the sergeant's instructions.) The server complied immediately, and I went on my way to enjoy the lunch of my choice. Henceforth, all diners at the alert facility had their choice of fries or baked potato. Many years later, after I had retired, I called a friend at The Pentagon who had witnessed the episode (in line behind me). He told me that the story of the highly-trained professional who insisted on having French fries with his steak was well known in the halls of that highest of US military headquarters. He said that he had related the story to the SECDEF and the Chiefs of Staff, all of whom had a good laugh over it. I would rather have been known there for having been an outstanding officer and warrior than to have been notorious for having won a silly battle over French fries, but we often have little control over what history records. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - SAC ALERT DINING
Oh! I forgot about pie dough. We actually tried to make a better dough with lard, and ended up using butter flavor crisco. BUT (a big one) the lard we used was store plasticized lard. It is not much different than the vein pluggin crisco. I suspect if I were to repeat the trials with real home rendered lard (that will spoil) the results would be different. The store lard is hydrogenated the same as crisco so it won't spoil. Anything that does not spoil is not really food, and is not good for you. Margarine, shortening, store lard, McD hamburger etc. Vivan was going on about lard a coupla shows ago. My grandmother used lard in everything, biscuits, cornbread, frying, pie dough, cooking, burns, and just about everything else. Nothing is better. --R On 11/21/14 1:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Which reminds me of 2 things. #1. Angie is making beef stew for dinner and I'd like to have a baked potato with it, fortunately we have many potatoes, I brought around 30# back from camp with me. and #2. While we were at camp with a 50# bag of potatoes we decided to make french fries with lard. Boy howdy how lard provides flavor to french fries. Its also very very easy to make fries in lard, easier than vegetable oil actually although I'm not sure I understand why... -Curt #2: Yes sir! Why do you think MickeyD fought for so long to use lard? I can also tell you that there is no good tortilla made without home rendered lard, not the plasticized store stuff. It makes an amazing difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
Isn't no reverse a symptom of a bad B2 piston? Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is bad reverse easily fixable? i.e., tranny is not necessarily buggered? --R On 11/21/14 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You missed it. $1800, I believe. Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No mention of price, or did I miss it? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here you go, Jaime - a fixer-upper at an Okie Acres price: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2135585-feeler-1991-560sel.html#post10017353 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this week at my house. -Curt From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries Yeah, it probably wouldn't work up north in the winter and might not work down here in the winter. Even a pair of them (450 CCA) might not work in the winter. Gerry Curt Raymond wrote: Might work reasonably well when its warm out but 225CCA is 1/4 what a group 49 battery is capable of. Based on the price it sounds like capacity is sold linearly... -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries When I was bench testing several alternators last summer, I put the shop battery, a $29.xx 225 CCA garden tractor battery, in the '83 300D; drove to town with A/C on, went to several stores, and drove home with no problem. Thought about installing 2 in parallel ($58.xx) so car would still start if one went bad, but tray was not quite long enough. Gerry...who likes to experiment Craig wrote: Since the battery in our '82 240D/3.0 died last week, I went looking for a replacement battery for it. WOW! Have battery prices gone through the roof! AutoZone wanted $150 - $175. NAPA wanted $184. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8603 - Release Date: 11/20/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car Deal for Jaime
I think that only reverse gear is the classic symptom of a failed B2 piston. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 21, 2014 5:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Isn't no reverse a symptom of a bad B2 piston? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
I worked on several biogas projects through Purdue University in the late 70s/early 80s based at total confinement hog farms in the Lafayette, IN area. The smallest had roughly 2,000 head under one roof and it generated more than enough biogas to provide heat and power a standby generator. They were looking at ways to use it as motor fuel on the farm for powering the farm equipment and trucks but were having difficulties due to the low BTU content. Worked well for heating, though. Biogas installations are common at large wastewater treatment plants and landfills. The city of Gary or Hammond (IN), I can't remember which, had a huge digester and biogas recovery system that generated electricity for the plant and surrounding city buildings. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I love the idea of turning biomass waste into fuel. Much more realistic for building a off the grid system. Storing and using the gas to power an oven, stove, and refrigerator, and you've got a big chunk of what is needed for comfortable living. Add a solar power system charging a few lead acid batteries, and LED lighting, and you've got your night-time light source. With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bio gas from pistachio shells
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html RB On 21/11/2014 12:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: With a really large biomass digest-er and a sophisticated compressor system, one could fill tanks for powering a car or truck or tractor. I wonder how much biomass you'd need to get the gas required to drive a car / truck around? Look at the wood consumption rates for wood gas conversions. That should give you a general idea. http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw.aspx Our vehicle (a 1970s pickup truck that probably got 10-14mpg), with a full wood supply and passenger load, goes about one mile on a pound of chunks .. http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=3548 Steve Nunnikhoven was ahead of MEN There is a 1936? Mercedes in the Deutschesmuseum that was converted to wood gas during WWII, with the generator on the back of the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Just bought a used battery for my TD about two weeks ago. The local Upull had 6 big batteries with the audi symbol on them. I decided to give one a try at $60. Took out the 4 year old autozone gold that wouldn't start the car any more and lifted in the used one. First thing I noticed was that the 'new' used battery was about half again heavier then the AZ gold. So far even at the 24deg that it was here on Monday the battery didn't have any problem starting the car. I like it and at $60 I can buy two of them if this one fails in a couple of years, if they still continue to carry them. Manfred Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:47:28 + (UTC) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Yeah, I paid $125 for a group 48 for the Jetta at Car Quest last year. If you've got a Car Quest try them, my local Autozone wanted $150. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Batteries Since the battery in our '82 240D/3.0 died last week, I went looking for a replacement battery for it. WOW! Have battery prices gone through the roof! AutoZone wanted $150 - $175. NAPA wanted $184. Is that the case across the U.S.? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices
Last Sat I stopped to fill up in the Ocala forest. The place there has some really good prices. $3.20 a gallon. too bad I only get to stop there on my way to Orlando every now and then. The usual price around here is $3.47 or so right now. Manfred Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:23:20 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Rockville, MD Shell station has diesel for $3.25, credit card price. Time for all you troglodytes to move to the Free State. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
On November 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this week at my house. At my house it's been below freezing every minute this week, and below 15°F every morning. Brrr. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Best wire for accordion joints at doors
There's some very soft stuff sold for R/C models, like 400-600 strands with hi temp silicone insulation. I wouldn't know where to get it in industrial quantities. http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php/deans-12-gauge-wet-noodle-wire-2ft-randb.html http://store.robobugs.net/index.php?main_page=pageid=4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
My granddaughter was sitting here reading with me, she's 9 and she said it was 44. ;-) I think she may be right. Manfred Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:13:55 -0500 From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com but what's the difference between 49 and 93? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global warming watchers! -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this week at my house. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
When you distort the data (or just make it up) your statistics can prove whatever you want. Read the book How to Lie with Statistics 50's cartoons, but still right on the money. And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global warming watchers! -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this week at my house. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
It's all Bush's fault and the republicans Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you distort the data (or just make it up) your statistics can prove whatever you want. Read the book How to Lie with Statistics 50's cartoons, but still right on the money. And yet, This is the hottest fall on record according to the global warming watchers! -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:05 PM To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries Winter hell, its only mid-autumn and its been below freezing every morning this week at my house. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Paid $20 for the used autocraft battery for The White Whale, I get a couple years from it I'll be happy. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2 Still better than a cheep or a FIat But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones. AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the newer ones. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars
Amen. On Nov 21, 2014 9:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss- BBezB2q#image=2 Still better than a cheep or a FIat But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones. AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the newer ones. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars
Curly is really Loren, right? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2 Still better than a cheep or a FIat But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones. AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the newer ones. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT Even the kids are catching on
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/kids-give-first-lady-sarcastic-thanks-on-twitter/ar-BBf6Sw1?ocid=mailsignout ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300 cd for parts available for sale
Dwight, et al.Paatz? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1985 300 cd for parts available for sale Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:16:10 -0800 fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 1985 300 cd for parts available for sale http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/4770790905.html If you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xNjcxMTE2N2uXYFZh7E9_QeKVVZdxgZAaVwX9OlP2k7p_qVWpkjGAwJj1B_S9ifM3FMwvrmok5Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.