[MBZ] So what do I want?
My '84 190D is seeing its last winter, the tin worm has gotten pretty serious and I can't see putting a bunch of money into it.Since its our third car and I commute almost exclusively with the Jetta I can have the third car be a toy. I like the idea of staying in the MB family although if I found a good deal on something else I'd snag it. Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. My tentative budget is around $3000 which is twice what I paid for the Jetta or either of my 240Ds. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Does your 190D have a manual transmission? Transplant the 190D drive train into the 280SL. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Nope, its an auto which is maybe one reason I've never really loved it. Its been a good car but not a great car, not one I remember for years and years anyway. The Jetta has spoiled me for power, I'd rather have its engine in the 280SL... ;) -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Does your 190D have a manual transmission? Transplant the 190D drive train into the 280SL. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... Good to be willing to look at gassers when I've seen exactly one W140 ever that purported to come from the factory with a non-rodbender diesel installed in it. I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. ...and a fuel distributor, and probably a warm-up regulator, and injectors... Few things are a bigger PITA than a K- or KE-Jetronic car that's sat for a year or more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
One comment to add: On the bad fuel pump car, if you can get it for a parts/salvage/I'd buy it and stick a diesel in it price, you can always pay the man, take the title and keys, jumper the fuel pump relay, and cross your fingers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Nope, its an auto which is maybe one reason I've never really loved it. Its been a good car but not a great car, not one I remember for years and years anyway. The Jetta has spoiled me for power, I'd rather have its engine in the 280SL... ;) I'd put any MB turbo diesel in a R107, but would not put a NA engine in it unless you need to use two digit numbers to count the number of intake valves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
I learned more than 70 years ago with the family's '37 Ford that NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... Good to be willing to look at gassers when I've seen exactly one W140 ever that purported to come from the factory with a non-rodbender diesel installed in it. I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. ...and a fuel distributor, and probably a warm-up regulator, and injectors... Few things are a bigger PITA than a K- or KE-Jetronic car that's sat for a year or more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Unless you are on a date and the gal you are with jumps out and helps you push, shoulder to shoulder.. Then, she's a keeper .. Take her home to mother and then marry her. One of my first cars was a 37 Ford club coupe with a 60 hp flathead. It had a bad vapor lock problem. Every time you parked, the heat from the engine would boil the gas in the gas line to the carb and make a pressure bubble that stopped fuel flow.. sometimes, while you were driving hard, it would do the same thing.. I solved the problem by putting a Chrysler Fire Dome 392 Hemi engine in it... then the only problems I had were breaking axles and trying to get enough brakes to stop it.. ha.. [well, that and a little speed wobble because the Hemi engine was about 3 times the weight of the flat head the car was designed for]. Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:22 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I learned more than 70 years ago with the family's '37 Ford that NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... Good to be willing to look at gassers when I've seen exactly one W140 ever that purported to come from the factory with a non-rodbender diesel installed in it. I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. ...and a fuel distributor, and probably a warm-up regulator, and injectors... Few things are a bigger PITA than a K- or KE-Jetronic car that's sat for a year or more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
This exact thing happened to me back in 2005. Overheated on the nj turnpike with my sailboat on the roof. Pulled over and v low coolant! No visible leaks. Did it at long intervals until monovalve was replaced. Head seemed to survive but one could easily have cooked it on the freeway listening to radio for hours. On Dec 23, 2014 11:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prices - was:So what do I want?
G wrote: Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... Let's see what those numbers translate to in today's dollars - based on fuel price. If we pick $3.30 per gallon, which is reasonable for before the crude oil silliness started... Gas was $3.30 a gallon, the car cost me $3000, the wrecked doner car cost me $750... Looks to me like it sort of lines up with a inflation factor of 30x. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Air Cleaner Housing on CLK 350
Regarding my '08 CLK 350...Can I start the engine and let it run for a spell without the air cleaner housing installed? I have developed a small oil drip from somewhere on the drivers rear of the engine and it's dripping on the exhaust and the only way I can see it (I think) is with the air cleaner housing removed and using an inspection mirror. Ugh... I don't know if running it without the housing installed will annoy the computer. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prices - was:So what do I want?
Pretty much spot on.. if you add in the devaluation factor of the dollar, then vs now.. might more than double those numbers. Also, it would be remiss not to include the cost of the divorce lawyers and alimony after that sweet little gal that got out and helped you push the old ford had 2.4 kids with you, got womens liberation, decided she was held back from the work place and you paid for her college degrees, then the lawyers, then the child support... et al.. Agh... what a mess we've made of it... [No wonder men go to war . ;)) ] Grant... On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:43 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: G wrote: Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... Let's see what those numbers translate to in today's dollars - based on fuel price. If we pick $3.30 per gallon, which is reasonable for before the crude oil silliness started... Gas was $3.30 a gallon, the car cost me $3000, the wrecked doner car cost me $750... Looks to me like it sort of lines up with a inflation factor of 30x. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bourbon and New Year
What determines the pricing criteria - age? On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm rather fond of Wild Turkey. I've seen three different grades, over the years. Not surprisingly, the most expensive was the best. (Rare Breed?) I have not done any kind of exhaustive search. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Do you mean .11 or 11 cents/gallon? On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Unless you are on a date and the gal you are with jumps out and helps you push, shoulder to shoulder.. Then, she's a keeper .. Take her home to mother and then marry her. One of my first cars was a 37 Ford club coupe with a 60 hp flathead. It had a bad vapor lock problem. Every time you parked, the heat from the engine would boil the gas in the gas line to the carb and make a pressure bubble that stopped fuel flow.. sometimes, while you were driving hard, it would do the same thing.. I solved the problem by putting a Chrysler Fire Dome 392 Hemi engine in it... then the only problems I had were breaking axles and trying to get enough brakes to stop it.. ha.. [well, that and a little speed wobble because the Hemi engine was about 3 times the weight of the flat head the car was designed for]. Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:22 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I learned more than 70 years ago with the family's '37 Ford that NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... Good to be willing to look at gassers when I've seen exactly one W140 ever that purported to come from the factory with a non-rodbender diesel installed in it. I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. ...and a fuel distributor, and probably a warm-up regulator, and injectors... Few things are a bigger PITA than a K- or KE-Jetronic car that's sat for a year or more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 4:01 PM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Do you mean .11 or 11 cents/gallon? My guess would be $.119 a gallon. Rick Who remembers gas at $.289 a gallon and smokes at $.28 a pack. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT The Queen of Digital Denial...
Finally wakes up... maybe. http://www.komando.com/happening-now/290211/after-hack-sony-used-what/all Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
11 cents is problematic, so 11 hundredths of a cent is pre-industrial revolution pricing. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 4:01 PM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Do you mean .11 or 11 cents/gallon? My guess would be $.119 a gallon. Rick Who remembers gas at $.289 a gallon and smokes at $.28 a pack. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
11 cents. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Do you mean .11 or 11 cents/gallon? On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Unless you are on a date and the gal you are with jumps out and helps you push, shoulder to shoulder.. Then, she's a keeper .. Take her home to mother and then marry her. One of my first cars was a 37 Ford club coupe with a 60 hp flathead. It had a bad vapor lock problem. Every time you parked, the heat from the engine would boil the gas in the gas line to the carb and make a pressure bubble that stopped fuel flow.. sometimes, while you were driving hard, it would do the same thing.. I solved the problem by putting a Chrysler Fire Dome 392 Hemi engine in it... then the only problems I had were breaking axles and trying to get enough brakes to stop it.. ha.. [well, that and a little speed wobble because the Hemi engine was about 3 times the weight of the flat head the car was designed for]. Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:22 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I learned more than 70 years ago with the family's '37 Ford that NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dan is so enamored of the 140 I thought maybe I'd give that a try. I'm not stuck on diesel (good right?) since its our third car economy isn't a huge issue... Good to be willing to look at gassers when I've seen exactly one W140 ever that purported to come from the factory with a non-rodbender diesel installed in it. I did find a 280SL R107 on craigslist and vaguely remember that the 6 cylinder is the desirable one even if its still a 107. That one is cheap because it doesn't run, guy says it needs a fuel pump. ...and a fuel distributor, and probably a warm-up regulator, and injectors... Few things are a bigger PITA than a K- or KE-Jetronic car that's sat for a year or more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT The Queen of Digital Denial...
If BB would/could make a deal with Apple to make a BB iphone, maybe people would use them. More likely that Apple would just spend some of its billions and buy BB. Then we could have an iBB Finally wakes up... maybe. http://www.komando.com/happening-now/290211/after-hack-sony-used-what/all Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
PC Guru's, My HP laptop (which is over six years old) is finally starting to die. Twice now the screen has gone dark. If I shine a bright light into the screen I can see the display, and shut-down the laptop. Re-starting the laptop immediately restored the screen the first time this happened. Worth attempting a repair? Anyone know of a great deal on a new laptop? I've just purchased a copy of Win7 OS, so if I can get a better deal on a laptop sans OS, that would be great. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Probably the cable from the main board to the inverter. Could be the inverter or a lamp, but I would bet on the cable first. A fairly easy DIY repair if you're careful and take your time. What's the model number? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: PC Guru's, My HP laptop (which is over six years old) is finally starting to die. Twice now the screen has gone dark. If I shine a bright light into the screen I can see the display, and shut-down the laptop. Re-starting the laptop immediately restored the screen the first time this happened. Worth attempting a repair? Anyone know of a great deal on a new laptop? I've just purchased a copy of Win7 OS, so if I can get a better deal on a laptop sans OS, that would be great. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT The Queen of Digital Denial...
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Finally wakes up... maybe. http://www.komando.com/happening-now/290211/after-hack-sony-used-what/all And one of the links at the bottom of the page: http://www.komando.com/happening-now/290207/this-new-mercedes-drives-itself-when-you-fall-asleep ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Evertek.com has good deals on refurbs and such. You have to register as a reseller or business to get prices, or you could just call them for a price. $300 will generally get you a decent laptop, or they have Macbooks for 300 to 1200 PC Guru's, My HP laptop (which is over six years old) is finally starting to die. Twice now the screen has gone dark. If I shine a bright light into the screen I can see the display, and shut-down the laptop. Re-starting the laptop immediately restored the screen the first time this happened. Worth attempting a repair? Anyone know of a great deal on a new laptop? I've just purchased a copy of Win7 OS, so if I can get a better deal on a laptop sans OS, that would be great. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Dan, It's an HP Pavilion dv6700, the service tag says dv6809wm. I can send you the s/n and p/n if needed. I would be glad to attempt replacing the cable (or other parts). Is there a sure way to diagnose? Let me know if you have a source for parts. Thanks, Max On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably the cable from the main board to the inverter. Could be the inverter or a lamp, but I would bet on the cable first. A fairly easy DIY repair if you're careful and take your time. What's the model number? Dan Sent from my iPad -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Thanks Curly, I'll take a look. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prices - was:So what do I want?
When I was heading to deer camp I spent the night at a friends place. I'd just picked up a new sleeping bag, I explained I'd bought it because the big one I already had was too big to keep warm without Angie. He suggested I needed another Angie. I fell back on that old saw Its cheaper to keep her. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prices - was:So what do I want? Pretty much spot on.. if you add in the devaluation factor of the dollar, then vs now.. might more than double those numbers. Also, it would be remiss not to include the cost of the divorce lawyers and alimony after that sweet little gal that got out and helped you push the old ford had 2.4 kids with you, got womens liberation, decided she was held back from the work place and you paid for her college degrees, then the lawyers, then the child support... et al.. Agh... what a mess we've made of it... [No wonder men go to war . ;)) ] Grant... On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:43 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: G wrote: Those were the good old days.. gas was 0.11 cents a gallon, the car cost me $100, the wrecked Chrysler donor car I got the Hemi engine from cost me $25.00 and I did it my way... Let's see what those numbers translate to in today's dollars - based on fuel price. If we pick $3.30 per gallon, which is reasonable for before the crude oil silliness started... Gas was $3.30 a gallon, the car cost me $3000, the wrecked doner car cost me $750... Looks to me like it sort of lines up with a inflation factor of 30x. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MB technology WAS: The Queen of Digital Denial...
And one of the links at the bottom of the page: http://www.komando.com/happening-now/290207/this-new-mercedes-drives-itself-when-you-fall-asleep __ Quote from the article: technology introduced in Mercedes cars - side airbags, adaptive cruise control, automated parking, etc. - usually ends up in less expensive cars within 10 years. That is a very short list. The real list would be very long. From 1959 on, just what I can think of off the top of my head: Crumple zones for safety, crumple/collapsible steering shaft, padded steering wheel, pop off mirrors, steering lock, independent suspension, (all 1959) McPherson struts, (1984) Front disk brakes (1963) 4 wheel disk brakes (1968) ABS (1983) This is still a very short list feel free to add. There are so many firsts in MB, that it would take pages to list them all. The 1914 MB I saw in BC had an electric starter. That surprised me. I thought starters came in Post WWI. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Looking on Newegg, PriceWatch, and TigerDirect, refurbished Dell's and Lenovo Thinkpads can be had for $250 to $300 or so. Any other websites recommended? -Max -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I have had no problems with HF jacks. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 6:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I have two of them, the 1.5 ton racing jack, which has the nice long handle and decent height; and a removable-handle portable jack. I use the racing jack all the time for lifting the cars at home. I use the portable jack when anticipating a requirement while away from home, typically jacking my sailboat up by the keel in order to shift it left or right on the boat trailer. I'd get another. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I have 3-4 of their jacks and all are good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Max.I've fixed a couple of HP G60's with bad video cables as the way that HP passes the cable by the hinge is not too brilliant.The cables are available from lots of places, like ebay or amazon. Usually under $20.As Dan said slow and relaxed is the way to go.The inverter for the CFL (lamp) is sometimes flukey, also not expensive.Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:25:07 -0500 To: d...@penoff.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time? From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Dan, It's an HP Pavilion dv6700, the service tag says dv6809wm. I can send you the s/n and p/n if needed. I would be glad to attempt replacing the cable (or other parts). Is there a sure way to diagnose? Let me know if you have a source for parts. Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Curt.My main Jack is an HF supplied device. No problems in almost 4 years.Just keep the wheels lubricated. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:46:24 + To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Sounds like the HF jacks are worth having. The big question for me now is if it'll fit under the Jetta. The on sale one is 5 minimum. I may need the low clearance. The aluminum one is 30# less than steel, 2 tons gives a good safety factor, I'll never be lifting the whole Jetta, can't even lift a whole end, theres nowhere to put the jack... Guess I'll wait for the Aluminum one to go on sale. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123.Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I found one site where a guy said Just buy a Hein Werner with a link to one at $500+. If I wrenched professionally I'd get one but I can't justify 4X the cost of a HF... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack They have 2.5 ton and maybe three ton aluminum ones too. I lifted my 240D with it many times. I also lifted the whole back end of my pagoda with it from the differential. The pagoda is not a light car. Another option would be to buy a reconditioned Hein Werner or Lincoln or Walker. Good old USA made jacks. Jon bought one from a shop in MA somewhere. It is a beast. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like the HF jacks are worth having. The big question for me now is if it'll fit under the Jetta. The on sale one is 5 minimum. I may need the low clearance. The aluminum one is 30# less than steel, 2 tons gives a good safety factor, I'll never be lifting the whole Jetta, can't even lift a whole end, theres nowhere to put the jack... Guess I'll wait for the Aluminum one to go on sale. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
I've never had problems getting parts for a w123. What parts are hard to find? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:29 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Ask Jon. He payed way less than that for a reconditioned unit. It is a 3 ton Hein Werner but it is way sturdier than any other three ton jack that I have ever seen. It is nevertheless a very heavy tool. I still love my 2 ton HF aluminum unit. I lug it around with one hand and it has a couple of built in handles for that purpose. It also appears to be very well made. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I found one site where a guy said Just buy a Hein Werner with a link to one at $500+. If I wrenched professionally I'd get one but I can't justify 4X the cost of a HF... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack They have 2.5 ton and maybe three ton aluminum ones too. I lifted my 240D with it many times. I also lifted the whole back end of my pagoda with it from the differential. The pagoda is not a light car. Another option would be to buy a reconditioned Hein Werner or Lincoln or Walker. Good old USA made jacks. Jon bought one from a shop in MA somewhere. It is a beast. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like the HF jacks are worth having. The big question for me now is if it'll fit under the Jetta. The on sale one is 5 minimum. I may need the low clearance. The aluminum one is 30# less than steel, 2 tons gives a good safety factor, I'll never be lifting the whole Jetta, can't even lift a whole end, theres nowhere to put the jack... Guess I'll wait for the Aluminum one to go on sale. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Thanks Fred. How do I figure out the part number(s)? On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max.I've fixed a couple of HP G60's with bad video cables as the way that HP passes the cable by the hinge is not too brilliant.The cables are available from lots of places, like ebay or amazon. Usually under $20.As Dan said slow and relaxed is the way to go.The inverter for the CFL (lamp) is sometimes flukey, also not expensive.Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I hit Craigslist and found a basic steel floor jack for $45, I'm considering offering $30. I've actually got one but it leaked at the pump and by the time I finally found the correct replacement o-ring I'd lost the plastic follower and I can't remember the order of the follower and o-ring anyway...Figure I'm better off to start with a new jack and use the handle from the other one (which I got free anyway) as a cheater bar for which it works excellently. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack Ask Jon. He payed way less than that for a reconditioned unit. It is a 3 ton Hein Werner but it is way sturdier than any other three ton jack that I have ever seen. It is nevertheless a very heavy tool. I still love my 2 ton HF aluminum unit. I lug it around with one hand and it has a couple of built in handles for that purpose. It also appears to be very well made. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I found one site where a guy said Just buy a Hein Werner with a link to one at $500+. If I wrenched professionally I'd get one but I can't justify 4X the cost of a HF... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack They have 2.5 ton and maybe three ton aluminum ones too. I lifted my 240D with it many times. I also lifted the whole back end of my pagoda with it from the differential. The pagoda is not a light car. Another option would be to buy a reconditioned Hein Werner or Lincoln or Walker. Good old USA made jacks. Jon bought one from a shop in MA somewhere. It is a beast. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like the HF jacks are worth having. The big question for me now is if it'll fit under the Jetta. The on sale one is 5 minimum. I may need the low clearance. The aluminum one is 30# less than steel, 2 tons gives a good safety factor, I'll never be lifting the whole Jetta, can't even lift a whole end, theres nowhere to put the jack... Guess I'll wait for the Aluminum one to go on sale. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
considering the cost of the 3 cars i was referring to when new, i have higher expectations for the MBZ than either a J**p or a Corolla. i'm with you on maintainable; i was trying to make the point that that *was* true, but is no longer the case if parts are going NLA. i'm not into clapped-out cars; spent almost 6 months looking for a 123 that was up to our standards when i bought our last one over 10 years ago. we've tried to keep it in as near-perfect condition as possible, and it's always been our first choice for thousand-mile weekends (as long as they were completely paved), and even did one just over the Christmas holiday. nothing quite like ripping the Grapevine up both sides doing over 70 MPH in pretty old diesel car; you can practically hear the old truckers smiling as we blow by them. ours has no rust (lifetime California car), all trim, almost no rips/tears/stains inside, only one ding near the front turn signal (from an a**hole that didn't know how to change lanes 8-^ ), the ACC works and Speed Control even still works eventually after a few tries. working windows and sunroof, no leaks anywhere, but the paint is starting to show signs of being tired on the roof and trunk. heck, the factory alarm still works even and it's the only 123 i've seen for a while that doesn't have any cracks in the dash; it's because it's in such nice condition that it makes it so hard to have to consider letting it go! cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 16:39, Curt Raymond wrote: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... *From:* ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
The only consolation we have with our rusty cars is that the dashes rarely crack, or rarely crack badly. My '84 190D has a few cracks which I attribute to it having some southern heritage... -Curt From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 considering the cost of the 3 cars i was referring to when new, i have higher expectations for the MBZ than either a J**p or a Corolla. i'm with you on maintainable; i was trying to make the point that that *was* true, but is no longer the case if parts are going NLA. i'm not into clapped-out cars; spent almost 6 months looking for a 123 that was up to our standards when i bought our last one over 10 years ago. we've tried to keep it in as near-perfect condition as possible, and it's always been our first choice for thousand-mile weekends (as long as they were completely paved), and even did one just over the Christmas holiday. nothing quite like ripping the Grapevine up both sides doing over 70 MPH in pretty old diesel car; you can practically hear the old truckers smiling as we blow by them. ours has no rust (lifetime California car), all trim, almost no rips/tears/stains inside, only one ding near the front turn signal (from an a**hole that didn't know how to change lanes 8-^ ), the ACC works and Speed Control even still works eventually after a few tries. working windows and sunroof, no leaks anywhere, but the paint is starting to show signs of being tired on the roof and trunk. heck, the factory alarm still works even and it's the only 123 i've seen for a while that doesn't have any cracks in the dash; it's because it's in such nice condition that it makes it so hard to have to consider letting it go! cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Well that is a bit disconcerting. I will still find a way! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:52 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: most recently, something as critical as a Vacuum Amplifier, and even something as simple as a Fuel Gauge Sender Unit. when even the Classic Center can't provide these, it's not a good sign. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 16:43, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never had problems getting parts for a w123. What parts are hard to find? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:29 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Perhaps a better descriptor is the one offered by a tech at an indy Autohaus: they don't break. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:39PM -0500 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123.Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com ; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
A replacement dash or console in any color besides black. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:43PM -0500 from dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I've never had problems getting parts for a w123. What parts are hard to find? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:29 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... I think mine is 2 1/2 ton. A real floor jack with gears driven by the handle that work the valve, goes up to 19 or so. Got it on sale for $39 around 1990. It's still my main floor jack. Of course, the one you buy 25 years later will not be identical. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
By way of disagreeing with some of your 123 conclusions, i have to use Fred's phrase, YMMV. On Jan 4, 2015 8:06 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: considering the cost of the 3 cars i was referring to when new, i have higher expectations for the MBZ than either a J**p or a Corolla. i'm with you on maintainable; i was trying to make the point that that *was* true, but is no longer the case if parts are going NLA. i'm not into clapped-out cars; spent almost 6 months looking for a 123 that was up to our standards when i bought our last one over 10 years ago. we've tried to keep it in as near-perfect condition as possible, and it's always been our first choice for thousand-mile weekends (as long as they were completely paved), and even did one just over the Christmas holiday. nothing quite like ripping the Grapevine up both sides doing over 70 MPH in pretty old diesel car; you can practically hear the old truckers smiling as we blow by them. ours has no rust (lifetime California car), all trim, almost no rips/tears/stains inside, only one ding near the front turn signal (from an a**hole that didn't know how to change lanes 8-^ ), the ACC works and Speed Control even still works eventually after a few tries. working windows and sunroof, no leaks anywhere, but the paint is starting to show signs of being tired on the roof and trunk. heck, the factory alarm still works even and it's the only 123 i've seen for a while that doesn't have any cracks in the dash; it's because it's in such nice condition that it makes it so hard to have to consider letting it go! cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 16:39, Curt Raymond wrote: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... *From:* ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
I bought a set consisting of a high-lift SUV jack and matching (heavy duty) jack stands from Sears on sale years ago. I've been very happy with them. I think I paid around $100 for the set, but that was shortly after I bought the SDL. Kaleb, is that jack that you have that won't let a car down slowly typical of a HF jack? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
What Dimitri said. I started calling around to the hydraulic repair shops looking for a GOOD floor jack. I finally found a 2.5 HW in Boston (130 miles, but I go there all the time) which had just been totally rebuilt. I showed up and it was 3 ton. The guy said, “Oh well, I thought it was a 2.5. Same price: $225.” Look for a good one, and be patient. Don’t buy crap. On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:48 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ask Jon. He payed way less than that for a reconditioned unit. It is a 3 ton Hein Werner but it is way sturdier than any other three ton jack that I have ever seen. It is nevertheless a very heavy tool. I still love my 2 ton HF aluminum unit. I lug it around with one hand and it has a couple of built in handles for that purpose. It also appears to be very well made. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I found one site where a guy said Just buy a Hein Werner with a link to one at $500+. If I wrenched professionally I'd get one but I can't justify 4X the cost of a HF... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack They have 2.5 ton and maybe three ton aluminum ones too. I lifted my 240D with it many times. I also lifted the whole back end of my pagoda with it from the differential. The pagoda is not a light car. Another option would be to buy a reconditioned Hein Werner or Lincoln or Walker. Good old USA made jacks. Jon bought one from a shop in MA somewhere. It is a beast. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like the HF jacks are worth having. The big question for me now is if it'll fit under the Jetta. The on sale one is 5 minimum. I may need the low clearance. The aluminum one is 30# less than steel, 2 tons gives a good safety factor, I'll never be lifting the whole Jetta, can't even lift a whole end, theres nowhere to put the jack... Guess I'll wait for the Aluminum one to go on sale. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack I have a three ton HF steel jack that started leaking about a year after I bought it. I also have a HF 2 ton aluminum racing jack which works perfectly and is easy to move around. I would strongly recommend that one. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ I bought a chinee jack from a farm store 20 years ago. ($130) It is great. I bought a HF jack about 10 years ago and it is identical I think it was about $80 on sale. It is nice to have an identical pair. Unfortunately, HF quit selling this jack a year or two ago. They weigh about 60 lb. They are easy to control the release. I can release so slowly you can hardly tell the jack is going down. These are the 3 ton traditional floor jack. They are MUCH better than crapsman. We have a crapsman floor jack at work and it it uncontrollable. It is up or wham, the equipment is dropped to the floor. This is as close as anything they have now. http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-steel-heavy-duty-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-68048.html That's what I'd buy if I was looking for a jack. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
A quick search brought this up: http://www.getpartsonline.com/hp-compaq-pavilion-dv6700.html HP has a really good parts and support site to get the part numbers and details. Looking on the site above shows a cable for $15 and the inverter for the same. If you look around you should find disassembly information. You'll need some mini-Torx drivers to disassemble the laptop. The giveaway for a bad display cable is almost always the ability to move the display back and forth and have the lamp go out. You pretty well diagnosed it yourself by looking at the display with another light source to see that the LCD is working. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, It's an HP Pavilion dv6700, the service tag says dv6809wm. I can send you the s/n and p/n if needed. I would be glad to attempt replacing the cable (or other parts). Is there a sure way to diagnose? Let me know if you have a source for parts. Thanks, Max On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably the cable from the main board to the inverter. Could be the inverter or a lamp, but I would bet on the cable first. A fairly easy DIY repair if you're careful and take your time. What's the model number? Dan Sent from my iPad -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Thanks Dan! Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e Dunno where you look for parts, but even without Q, I have had no trouble buying parts as needed for 123, 124 or 126. 125k miles is nothing. Give me $500 and I'll take it off your hands. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
most recently, something as critical as a Vacuum Amplifier, and even something as simple as a Fuel Gauge Sender Unit. when even the Classic Center can't provide these, it's not a good sign. cheers! e You said as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them If 123s are so common in junkyards, then go pull a fuel sender and an amp. There are many good instructions in the internet about how to clean and repair fuel senders. Had you kept the bugs out of your B100, your sender would not be gunked up. Even without a fuel sender, I can drive a 123 for years. Just fill it at regular intervals, and if need be, fix the odometer so you can tell how far you have gone. (or use an iphone to track miles.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
cute, but sadly inaccurate. ignoring the parts we've already discussed, we've had no-go failures including (but not limited to) broken accelerator linkage (350 miles from home, natch) and an ignition switch assembly behind the tumbler that disintegrated (fortunately, directly outside a local indys shop). not a big deal *if* parts were still available, but the idea that these (or any other car) never break is just not true. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:34, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a better descriptor is the one offered by a tech at an indy Autohaus: they don't break. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:39PM -0500 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123.Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com ; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
not sure who Fred is, but if you can *make* parts that are NLA, your mileage may vary indeed! (making parts is actually what the Classic Center recommended last time i was looking for something they couldn't get.) now sure what 'conclusions' you're referring to, but that things break and parts are becoming no longer available from the manufacturer are realities that i find sad. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:37, Dwight Giles wrote: By way of disagreeing with some of your 123 conclusions, i have to use Fred's phrase, YMMV. On Jan 4, 2015 8:06 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: considering the cost of the 3 cars i was referring to when new, i have higher expectations for the MBZ than either a J**p or a Corolla. i'm with you on maintainable; i was trying to make the point that that *was* true, but is no longer the case if parts are going NLA. i'm not into clapped-out cars; spent almost 6 months looking for a 123 that was up to our standards when i bought our last one over 10 years ago. we've tried to keep it in as near-perfect condition as possible, and it's always been our first choice for thousand-mile weekends (as long as they were completely paved), and even did one just over the Christmas holiday. nothing quite like ripping the Grapevine up both sides doing over 70 MPH in pretty old diesel car; you can practically hear the old truckers smiling as we blow by them. ours has no rust (lifetime California car), all trim, almost no rips/tears/stains inside, only one ding near the front turn signal (from an a**hole that didn't know how to change lanes 8-^ ), the ACC works and Speed Control even still works eventually after a few tries. working windows and sunroof, no leaks anywhere, but the paint is starting to show signs of being tired on the roof and trunk. heck, the factory alarm still works even and it's the only 123 i've seen for a while that doesn't have any cracks in the dash; it's because it's in such nice condition that it makes it so hard to have to consider letting it go! cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 16:39, Curt Raymond wrote: sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years older and considering their cost when new much less common... I think when most people say bulletproof they mean maintainable. The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking windows/sunroof and failed ACC. Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the shutoff solenoid) a friend said Geez I thought those were reliable... Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me. -Curt Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator... *From:* ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com; Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Max, I have used screens from Laptopscreen.com here's the link for your screen : https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/HP-Compaq/PAVILION~DV6809WM/ Had one just like your's about three weeks ago. Same problem new screen solved the problem. I've replaced around 10 screens last year for clients and used screens from LS with no problems. Russ On Sun,1/4/15 17:25, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Dan, It's an HP Pavilion dv6700, the service tag says dv6809wm. I can send you the s/n and p/n if needed. I would be glad to attempt replacing the cable (or other parts). Is there a sure way to diagnose? Let me know if you have a source for parts. Thanks, Max On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably the cable from the main board to the inverter. Could be the inverter or a lamp, but I would bet on the cable first. A fairly easy DIY repair if you're careful and take your time. What's the model number? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
not sure who Fred is, but if you can *make* parts that are NLA, your mileage may vary indeed! (making parts is actually what the Classic Center recommended last time i was looking for something they couldn't get.) now sure what 'conclusions' you're referring to, but that things break and parts are becoming no longer available from the manufacturer are realities that i find sad. cheers! e Cathey is a verb. Fred is a list member. MB is no longer the MB of old. But there are more sources of parts than MB. I've bought few parts from MB in the past 15 years. If a part is NLA, there are ways to fix it. 1. Fix the old one 2. Buy a used one from a junkyard (or keep your own junker) 3. Buy a new one from an OEM 4. Buy a new one from Uro 5. Adapt one from something else 6. Make a Catheyesque repair using old microwave ovens, shoogoo, wire and parts on hand. 7. Bosch parts are available from Bosch In short, there is a way, if you have the will and some creativity. I just got a $600 porcupine and a aux fan for the SDL for $75 total. The alternative to the $600 porcupine is a $5 switch. That is how the heater is running now. My next alternative was the resistor unit for my old dogde van. I figured I could wire that in with a multiposition switch to have 5 heater speeds. A sub-$1000 car is not worth spending $600 to have a heater. Not having a heater/defrost is not an option in subzero weather. These are examples of Catheyesque repairs. Chevrolette has not sold parts for 55,56, 57 chevrolettes for decades, yet parts are readily available. KEEP 'Em FLYING! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Just a word of caution: NEVER place any body part you want to keep between a car supported only by a jack and the floor [ground, asphalt et al] . Use the jack for lifting, use a properly rated jack stand for supporting the car BEFORE you venture under it. Please make sure the jack stand is properly seated and on level and solid footing. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ I bought a chinee jack from a farm store 20 years ago. ($130) It is great. I bought a HF jack about 10 years ago and it is identical I think it was about $80 on sale. It is nice to have an identical pair. Unfortunately, HF quit selling this jack a year or two ago. They weigh about 60 lb. They are easy to control the release. I can release so slowly you can hardly tell the jack is going down. These are the 3 ton traditional floor jack. They are MUCH better than crapsman. We have a crapsman floor jack at work and it it uncontrollable. It is up or wham, the equipment is dropped to the floor. This is as close as anything they have now. http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-steel-heavy-duty-floor- jack-with-rapid-pump-68048.html That's what I'd buy if I was looking for a jack. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Who doesn't know this? Duh. On Jan 4, 2015 9:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just a word of caution: NEVER place any body part you want to keep between a car supported only by a jack and the floor [ground, asphalt et al] . Use the jack for lifting, use a properly rated jack stand for supporting the car BEFORE you venture under it. Please make sure the jack stand is properly seated and on level and solid footing. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody ever bought a Harbor Freight jack? I've got an older Craftsman floor jack, one thats literally a bottle jack on its side with a lever. It works fine but it really doesn't go high enough and the removable handle is a drag. I've been thinking I wanted a real floor jack for some time now. I went to HF today to get a new compressor (21gal, 2.5hp) and got a flyer for their blowout sale next week which includes the 3 Ton Heavy Duty Steel Floor Jack for $69. They were asking $79 for the 1.5ton jack today so it seems like a good deal... Reviews I found online seem to suggest that HF jacks are as good as any Chinesium available and generally a lot cheaper. I'm not a pro and I can't see spending hundreds for a good unit... Thoughts? -Curt ___ I bought a chinee jack from a farm store 20 years ago. ($130) It is great. I bought a HF jack about 10 years ago and it is identical I think it was about $80 on sale. It is nice to have an identical pair. Unfortunately, HF quit selling this jack a year or two ago. They weigh about 60 lb. They are easy to control the release. I can release so slowly you can hardly tell the jack is going down. These are the 3 ton traditional floor jack. They are MUCH better than crapsman. We have a crapsman floor jack at work and it it uncontrollable. It is up or wham, the equipment is dropped to the floor. This is as close as anything they have now. http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-steel-heavy-duty-floor- jack-with-rapid-pump-68048.html That's what I'd buy if I was looking for a jack. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
'Head, Curly, whoever you are now,... you seem to be misunderstanding so much that i can only hope it's intentional. i'll readdress the points you seem to have missed again below one last time for you. as i said in the very text you quoted below, 12 years ago after i ran some B100 through it, i didn't need a Fuel Sender for a while. i didn't say that was a reason to dump the car. i pointed out the lack of the availability of the Fuel Sender as an example of a simple item that was no longer supported like what MBZ parts used to be. also, as i already said in text you quoted below, i did try to fix it. obviously, had it been repairable, i wouldn't have needed another one. regards, e On 04/Jan/15 20:12, Curly McLain wrote: it appears you've (perhaps intentionally) missed the points. the Fuel Sender was failing when i first got the vehicle 12 years ago, and actually started working better for a while after starting to use B100. using the Trip meter was exactly what i did for most of the next decade or so. i am fully aware of the cleaning process, and went through it without positive result. 12 years ago, I am sure the fuel sender was available. If you ran it without a working sender for 10 years, that hardly seems a defensible reason to dump the car now. Why not just fix it? If it was such a problem, why didn't you buy a new one when you got the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
agreed! one reason i wish i could still rely on the W123. but that's going to be a non-issue if we can't get the dang thing to drive. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 20:35, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I guess I can't resist either. Here I go: God help you should you get into an accident with your Cheep or your early nineties camry tin can. I'd much rather be in a w123 Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:26 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: there it is! i knew as soon i mentioned the J**p or Toyota i could count on you not being able to restrain your hard-on for those; i'm surprised it didn't show up before now! for what it's worth, we've only run into one part so far that was NLA for either of those vehicles from the dealer; a rear hatch latch button for the J**p. and as you pointed out, aftermarket support for them has been great; much as i'd hope otherwise, we've found it much better than for the W123. it's not news that any vehicle can/will break. the thing that makes the difference for us is whether you can still get parts for it or not while you're on the road. regards, e On 04/Jan/15 20:09, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
On 04/Jan/15 20:31, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Yes and furthermore, Mercedes has a much better parts availability than many other cars. while that was one of the things that kept us with the brand, our experience has been that that's no longer the case. Finding OE interior parts on many ten year old cars is nearly impossible. Not so with Mercedes. if you say so; it may be perhaps because of the condition of our cars and the condition we keep them in, but i don't recall ever looking for interior parts for any car. (i could probably use a First Aid Kit door for the W123, but i haven't looked for one yet; that's a recent failure, and we've had other issues to deal with.) Asian cars parts are also quite pricey, more so than quality European car parts. Honda is one example. i've no experience with Hondas, but haven't found that to be the case with the Mazdas and Toyotas in the family. So many w123s were built that a steady supply of used parts will be around for years to come and with the above mentioned relative ease of Mercedes new parts aquisition, holding on to a w123 diesel should be a cakewalk. if our experience in acquiring new parts were what it used to be like, i might agree with you regarding how easy it would be to keep these running. but as i've said, i've no interest in hoping i can hunt down and find whatever part i might need next time something fails on the road, new, let alone used. if that's someone else's idea of fun, that's great for them, but i'm not interested. cheers! e Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Meade wrote: Looking on Newegg, PriceWatch, and TigerDirect, refurbished Dell's and Lenovo Thinkpads can be had for $250 to $300 or so. Any other websites recommended? Bob Johnson's Computer Stuff. I have gotten a few Toughbooks. I have had a couple minor problems and their support and service has been good. http://bobjohnson.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
as i said, in multiple cases now, after trying everyone we could find (including Q and crew), even the Classic Center hasn't been able to get parts we've needed. if they show parts as NLA, we're pretty much screwed unless we want to chase used stuff (which isn't something i'm interested in). don't know where you got that number from, but 125K miles is indeed nothing; we've got almost twice that on ours. these things are still unreasonably popular in my area, and mines known to be one of the prettiest ones in the area; i shouldn't have any problem getting a fair price for it from someone. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:41, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e Dunno where you look for parts, but even without Q, I have had no trouble buying parts as needed for 123, 124 or 126. 125k miles is nothing. Give me $500 and I'll take it off your hands. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Grant wrote: Unless you are on a date and the gal you are with jumps out and helps you push, shoulder to shoulder.. Then, she's a keeper .. Take her home to mother and then marry her. Been there, done that, still very happy with that lady. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Jon wrote: Look for a good one, and be patient. Don’t buy crap. Great advice!! 25 years ago we bought a Lincoln NAPA floor jack. Probably stupid for the amount of use it has gotten buy it sez USA on it and that was the selling feature. Somewhere there is politics in this, somehow... National honor, jobs, buy american, whatever. The arguments are deeply ingrained for me and I rather do without than have china stuff that is affordable - mind you, the Lincoln NAPA was not affordable but it is what we set our mind to purchase. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
-Max wrote: Any other websites recommended? Jaime's good friend runs this place and I have bought stuff from Brian for years: computertradeexchange.com Do you still know Brian? - Jaime? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
no Ernie here, but i have used So Cal Mercedes, at the recommendation of the Classic Center. that's been the only way i've been able to keep mine running in proper trim, but they've only had used parts for the things i've found NLA elsewhere. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 18:59, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Ernie, Have you tried SO CAL Mercedes for any of these NLA parts? They have been pretty reliable for some of the rare CA version W123 turbo parts I have needed. Ask for Pete or Matt Bourne; mention my name and I get a free trip to Hawaii. :) SoCal Mercedes Parts 1436 N.Manzanita St. Orange, CA. 92867 www.socalmercedesparts.com http://www.socalmercedesparts.com Phone 714.221.0672 Fax 714.628.0818 Toll Free 888.664.6602 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:24 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: as i said, in multiple cases now, after trying everyone we could find (including Q and crew), even the Classic Center hasn't been able to get parts we've needed. if they show parts as NLA, we're pretty much screwed unless we want to chase used stuff (which isn't something i'm interested in). don't know where you got that number from, but 125K miles is indeed nothing; we've got almost twice that on ours. these things are still unreasonably popular in my area, and mines known to be one of the prettiest ones in the area; i shouldn't have any problem getting a fair price for it from someone. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:41, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e Dunno where you look for parts, but even without Q, I have had no trouble buying parts as needed for 123, 124 or 126. 125k miles is nothing. Give me $500 and I'll take it off your hands. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
I remember the gasoline at that and less, but I'm happy and proud to say I've never bought a pack of cigarettes, but I'm thinking that in '30's and '40's they were significantly less than $0.28/pack. That reminds me: I pulled into a parking space at local hospital at 0700 last Fri. for an IVIG (intravenous immunoglobulin) treatment. And some damned fool litterbug had empted his/her ashtray right where I had to exit the car. 'Had to step onto probably well over a hundred butts in about a 2-feet diameter circle under my feet. Made me damned mad again to be reminded how too many people throw their garbage out on public property or somebody else's property and drive away. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what do I want? Rick wrote: Who remembers gas at $.289 a gallon and smokes at $.28 a pack. And today... The singles smokes salesman gets cops to sit on him and dies for selling singles at $1 each. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Porcupine reminds me: During a summer maybe 10 years ago, I needed a porcupine for my '91 350SDL; 'had it on order and en route, but I needed to drive the car on round trip to Williamsburg, VA. I used a two-pole toggle switch to operate the blower for the trip. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140 not sure who Fred is, but if you can *make* parts that are NLA, your mileage may vary indeed! (making parts is actually what the Classic Center recommended last time i was looking for something they couldn't get.) now sure what 'conclusions' you're referring to, but that things break and parts are becoming no longer available from the manufacturer are realities that i find sad. cheers! e Cathey is a verb. Fred is a list member. MB is no longer the MB of old. But there are more sources of parts than MB. I've bought few parts from MB in the past 15 years. If a part is NLA, there are ways to fix it. 1. Fix the old one 2. Buy a used one from a junkyard (or keep your own junker) 3. Buy a new one from an OEM 4. Buy a new one from Uro 5. Adapt one from something else 6. Make a Catheyesque repair using old microwave ovens, shoogoo, wire and parts on hand. 7. Bosch parts are available from Bosch In short, there is a way, if you have the will and some creativity. I just got a $600 porcupine and a aux fan for the SDL for $75 total. The alternative to the $600 porcupine is a $5 switch. That is how the heater is running now. My next alternative was the resistor unit for my old dogde van. I figured I could wire that in with a multiposition switch to have 5 heater speeds. A sub-$1000 car is not worth spending $600 to have a heater. Not having a heater/defrost is not an option in subzero weather. These are examples of Catheyesque repairs. Chevrolette has not sold parts for 55,56, 57 chevrolettes for decades, yet parts are readily available. KEEP 'Em FLYING! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
it appears you've (perhaps intentionally) missed the points. the Fuel Sender was failing when i first got the vehicle 12 years ago, and actually started working better for a while after starting to use B100. using the Trip meter was exactly what i did for most of the next decade or so. i am fully aware of the cleaning process, and went through it without positive result. 12 years ago, I am sure the fuel sender was available. If you ran it without a working sender for 10 years, that hardly seems a defensible reason to dump the car now. Why not just fix it? If it was such a problem, why didn't you buy a new one when you got the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Well, I guess I can't resist either. Here I go: God help you should you get into an accident with your Cheep or your early nineties camry tin can. I'd much rather be in a w123 Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:26 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: there it is! i knew as soon i mentioned the J**p or Toyota i could count on you not being able to restrain your hard-on for those; i'm surprised it didn't show up before now! for what it's worth, we've only run into one part so far that was NLA for either of those vehicles from the dealer; a rear hatch latch button for the J**p. and as you pointed out, aftermarket support for them has been great; much as i'd hope otherwise, we've found it much better than for the W123. it's not news that any vehicle can/will break. the thing that makes the difference for us is whether you can still get parts for it or not while you're on the road. regards, e On 04/Jan/15 20:09, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
True, but some vinyl dye can change that. I would be quite surprised if a replacement dash could be bought for a 1990 Camry. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 8:36 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: A replacement dash or console in any color besides black. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:43PM -0500 from dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I've never had problems getting parts for a w123. What parts are hard to find? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:29 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices happen to be. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Amen. On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not make long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current aberration or variations in prices. Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and that it is not the same as every other engine on the street. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Rick wrote: Who remembers gas at $.289 a gallon and smokes at $.28 a pack. And today... The singles smokes salesman gets cops to sit on him and dies for selling singles at $1 each. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Thanks Russ, I'll check them out. Looks like my problem is the cable, I've got to catch it in the act to diagnose further. Problem has happened twice in the last thirty days. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] So what do I want?
Now that's a SEGUE! On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick wrote: Who remembers gas at $.289 a gallon and smokes at $.28 a pack. And today... The singles smokes salesman gets cops to sit on him and dies for selling singles at $1 each. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Curt, This is the jack I have two of. http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/larin-3-ton-floor-jack/36087 These are very good, but don't cost $500. Well worth the $100 plus freight. The paint is different on this one. Both of mine are orange. Oh, and I was wrong at 60 lb. This website says 83 lb. Check your local farm stores. With 2, I can jack up both sides at once, or front and back at once. Some of the jacks HF sells now are the same as crapsman, but without as big of a price. Beware! Those are crappy jacks. The HF racing jacks are reported to be good for the money. 20% off coupon for HF at HarborFreight.com They had a 25% off coupon for last thurs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bourbon and New Year
What determines the pricing criteria - age? The two grades are age-based. The extra-spendy third was a barrel they opened and said: Ooooh! So they marked it up even more and gave it its own name. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Ernie, Have you tried SO CAL Mercedes for any of these NLA parts? They have been pretty reliable for some of the rare CA version W123 turbo parts I have needed. Ask for Pete or Matt Bourne; mention my name and I get a free trip to Hawaii. :) SoCal Mercedes Parts 1436 N.Manzanita St. Orange, CA. 92867 www.socalmercedesparts.com Phone 714.221.0672 Fax 714.628.0818 Toll Free 888.664.6602 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:24 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: as i said, in multiple cases now, after trying everyone we could find (including Q and crew), even the Classic Center hasn't been able to get parts we've needed. if they show parts as NLA, we're pretty much screwed unless we want to chase used stuff (which isn't something i'm interested in). don't know where you got that number from, but 125K miles is indeed nothing; we've got almost twice that on ours. these things are still unreasonably popular in my area, and mines known to be one of the prettiest ones in the area; i shouldn't have any problem getting a fair price for it from someone. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:41, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are definitely not bulletproof, as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they definitely are not bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it. in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old W123. cheers! e Dunno where you look for parts, but even without Q, I have had no trouble buying parts as needed for 123, 124 or 126. 125k miles is nothing. Give me $500 and I'll take it off your hands. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight Jack
Interesting. I have a Larin jack like that as well (actually, I have two). They were bought at BJ's 17 years ago and neither one leaks. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt, This is the jack I have two of. http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/larin-3-ton-floor-jack/36087 These are very good, but don't cost $500. Well worth the $100 plus freight. The paint is different on this one. Both of mine are orange. Oh, and I was wrong at 60 lb. This website says 83 lb. Check your local farm stores. With 2, I can jack up both sides at once, or front and back at once. Some of the jacks HF sells now are the same as crapsman, but without as big of a price. Beware! Those are crappy jacks. The HF racing jacks are reported to be good for the money. 20% off coupon for HF at HarborFreight.com They had a 25% off coupon for last thurs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 18:33, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: not sure who Fred is, but if you can *make* parts that are NLA, your mileage may vary indeed! (making parts is actually what the Classic Center recommended last time i was looking for something they couldn't get.) now sure what 'conclusions' you're referring to, but that things break and parts are becoming no longer available from the manufacturer are realities that i find sad. cheers! e Cathey is a verb. Fred is a list member. MB is no longer the MB of old. But there are more sources of parts than MB. I've bought few parts from MB in the past 15 years. If a part is NLA, there are ways to fix it. 1. Fix the old one 2. Buy a used one from a junkyard (or keep your own junker) 3. Buy a new one from an OEM 4. Buy a new one from Uro 5. Adapt one from something else 6. Make a Catheyesque repair using old microwave ovens, shoogoo, wire and parts on hand. 7. Bosch parts are available from Bosch In short, there is a way, if you have the will and some creativity. I just got a $600 porcupine and a aux fan for the SDL for $75 total. The alternative to the $600 porcupine is a $5 switch. That is how the heater is running now. My next alternative was the resistor unit for my old dogde van. I figured I could wire that in with a multiposition switch to have 5 heater speeds. A sub-$1000 car is not worth spending $600 to have a heater. Not having a heater/defrost is not an option in subzero weather. These are examples of Catheyesque repairs. Chevrolette has not sold parts for 55,56, 57 chevrolettes for decades, yet parts are readily available. KEEP 'Em FLYING! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
it appears you've (perhaps intentionally) missed the points. the Fuel Sender was failing when i first got the vehicle 12 years ago, and actually started working better for a while after starting to use B100. using the Trip meter was exactly what i did for most of the next decade or so. i am fully aware of the cleaning process, and went through it without positive result. the commercially produced BioD we've been using has not been attributable to any problem we've had to date. we're not all talking about some homebrew crap, or throwing WVO in the tank. as i said up front; i want a dependable and maintainable vehicle, and am not interested in maintaining one as a hobby. we use our cars for far to much to hope for the chance to find used parts when/where we need them. we're clearly not interested in maintaining a vehicle at the same level. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 17:50, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: most recently, something as critical as a Vacuum Amplifier, and even something as simple as a Fuel Gauge Sender Unit. when even the Classic Center can't provide these, it's not a good sign. cheers! e You said as does the fact that there are local junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them If 123s are so common in junkyards, then go pull a fuel sender and an amp. There are many good instructions in the internet about how to clean and repair fuel senders. Had you kept the bugs out of your B100, your sender would not be gunked up. Even without a fuel sender, I can drive a 123 for years. Just fill it at regular intervals, and if need be, fix the odometer so you can tell how far you have gone. (or use an iphone to track miles.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
there it is! i knew as soon i mentioned the J**p or Toyota i could count on you not being able to restrain your hard-on for those; i'm surprised it didn't show up before now! for what it's worth, we've only run into one part so far that was NLA for either of those vehicles from the dealer; a rear hatch latch button for the J**p. and as you pointed out, aftermarket support for them has been great; much as i'd hope otherwise, we've found it much better than for the W123. it's not news that any vehicle can/will break. the thing that makes the difference for us is whether you can still get parts for it or not while you're on the road. regards, e On 04/Jan/15 20:09, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Yes and furthermore, Mercedes has a much better parts availability than many other cars. Finding OE interior parts on many ten year old cars is nearly impossible. Not so with Mercedes. Asian cars parts are also quite pricey, more so than quality European car parts. Honda is one example. So many w123s were built that a steady supply of used parts will be around for years to come and with the above mentioned relative ease of Mercedes new parts aquisition, holding on to a w123 diesel should be a cakewalk. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mixed bag on car repairs today
Finally got around to fixing the TE today, replaced one rear bearing, will do the other next weekend probably since this one was such a pain. Removing the axle went fine, but no progress trying to remove the hub from the bearing with a slide hammer in spite of reports from a reliable source that it works (my friend Hans pulled one that way, and we were using his slide hammer). After completely wrecking the bad bearing, we gave up, pulled the wheel carrier (which was much faster than screwing around with the slide hammer) and took it to my brother's shop and pressed the hub and bearing out and the new one in, plus the hub. We'd moved the hub in the bearing maybe 1/8 or so, well and truly stuck. Also replaced the outer spring link bearing, as the old one was missing both boots and rusty -- if the rear end of you W124 creaks when you get out, you need to replace it. Much worse than the wheel bearing, which at least came out easily in spite of the fractured inner race. The spring link bearing was a real bitch, ended up driving it in with a hammer as it refused to press in, and both working surfaces are uneven. We will try a bearing puller on the next cone, it should not be that hard. We wore my nephew out -- he's training to be a diesel mechanic so I use him for all the hard stuff. I hope he's learning something, he's a bit hard headed. The mixed bag part was that I smelled a bit of gasoline when I drove up, and left a puddle when I pulled the car out. The 1 piece of rubber hose on the hard line at the rear of the front fuel pump (from the rear pump) has cracked. So I get to either find a replacement hose or take it off and have the guy who made up the line from the rear to front pump after two cheap ones split make a new bit for me. Nearly all the K-jet cars I've ever seen have a banjo fitting on the rear of the fuel pump, why MB put a hose on this one I don't understand. Anyway, I need to fix that on Tuesday evening, it's going to be below zero Thursday morning, and I'm quite certain the 300D won't start, even if I replace the bad glow plugs tomorrow evening. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Has the screen gone pink too? More likely a bad fluorescent bulb at the bottom of the screen than a bad inverter cable. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mixed bag on car repairs today
I bought the Sir Tools clone of the MB special tool for that outer spring link bearing/bushing. I think it was about $100? Works fine as long as you get it perfectly lined up, which is not always easy - the brake shield gets in the way. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
