Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
My first car summer was a 31 Model A Ford 5-window coupe that had just been 
semi-restored; looked great and was in reasonably good condition;  usually 
drove it at redline - 55 to 60 mph.  It literally hummed; worst thing about 
it was getting it stopped.  Girl friend (SWMBO) loved it, and I'm still in 
trouble for selling it and buying a ragged '40 Ford.

Wilton

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 My first car (that I was totally responsible for i.e. license, insurance,
 all maintenance and any other expenses) was a '63 beetle that my olderbrother 
 gave up on.  He had rebuilt the motor using over-sized pistons, the
 engine made a ticking noise when done, so he bought a '68 squareback.  I
 Ifound a used motor for the beetle and drove it off to college, University
 of Wisconsin - adjusting the valves every 2000 miles laying on cold wet
 pavement in the street outside my apartment was miserable.  The car was
 black with the big canvass sunroof.  I could stand while driving,
 straddling the shift lever between my legs with my upper body sticking out
 of the sunroof, steering with my left hand and working the accelerator
 pedal with my left foot.
 
 In my sophomore year, I rented an apartment which had a locked storage area
 in the basement, and using the How to Keep your Volkswagen ALIVE book, I
 took the role of the Complete Idiot and proceeded to tear apart the
 ticking engine.  I could find nothing wrong, got a reference for a good VW
 mechanic in the area, put all the pieces in boxes and took them to his
 shop.  He called me a couple days later and said Fixed, that will be $15
 please.  The crank gear that drove the distributor was damaged, and that
 was making the ticking noise.  He pressed off the old and installed a used
 gear.  I put it all back together, installed that engine and motored
 happily off.  However, lack of passenger heat and the frequency of the
 valve adjustments laying in snow or on wet cold pavement was loosing all
 appeal, so I sold that car for $300.
 
 The replacement was a '67 Plymouth VIP, with a Commando V.  383 cubic
 inches, but mine had the smaller carb and smaller intake valve openings.
 It also burned almost as much oil as gasoline.  It really could roll
 coal, especially on the freeway.  Moving up from the VW to the VIP, I
 thought the car had tremendous power.  Drove it for a year or two, the
 engine got weaker and weaker and finally was only running on 5 or 6 of the
 8 cylinders.  I sold it for scrap for $75, but before I sold it I removed
 the hood ornament and some other MOPAR bits that one of the many mechanics
 who worked on the car admired, and sold those bits for another $75.  The
 brake lights didn't work when I got the car, so I ran new wire to the rear
 window and installed trailer lights there as brake lights.  I was amazed I
 was never pulled over and questioned about that.
 
 My older brother had by then destroyed the squareback, and replaced it with
 a '73 super beetle, for which he paid the princely sum of $100 circa 1990.
 He was in graduate school then, didn't really need a car but did need a
 bicycle.  I had a nice Schwinn ten speed that I bought for $100, so I
 traded him.  The Hundred Dollar Car as it was known was terribly rusty
 and again had the miserable air-cooled VW passenger heat (or lack
 thereof).  I suffered through another winter in Wisconsin.  The brakes were
 weak and the tires needed replacing, and I think it also needed new tie rod
 ends.  I took it to our family mechanic back in northern WI for the
 work.  He put the car up on his lift, took one look at the rust, gently put
 the car back down and told me he could see no value in doing anything to
 the car and advised that it was too unsafe to drive, so that one also went
 to the junkyard.  By the way, said junkyard in northern WI, Floyds Auto
 Salvage was were all Dillon vehicles which were scrapped went back then.
 We had a very good relationship with Floyd and his sons.  They had
 dedicated one row just for Dillon vehicles, making it easier for us to pay
 our respects when we went buy to get parts for the current fleet.  After
 that I went through another hand-me-down family car, then decided to be
 car-less my senior year.  When I graduated I bought a used '92 Honda Accord
 EX coupe.  That was a decent car, drove it for about four years.  I'd
 bought it for $11k with less than 50k miles, sold it four years later with
 over 100k for $6400.
 
 The only car I wish I had kept was that VIP.  I had a lead on a 440 V8 from
 a police car, and really wanted to swap that in, but just didn't have the
 time and money while in college.
 
 Here's the Wikipedia entry:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Fury
 
 Here's a picture of a similar car.  Mine was red with a black top.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/carphotosbyrichard/4595509050/
 
 -Max
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My first car (that I was totally responsible for i.e. license, insurance,
all maintenance and any other expenses) was a '63 beetle that my older
brother gave up on.  He had rebuilt the motor using over-sized pistons, the
engine made a ticking noise when done, so he bought a '68 squareback.  I
found a used motor for the beetle and drove it off to college, University
of Wisconsin - adjusting the valves every 2000 miles laying on cold wet
pavement in the street outside my apartment was miserable.  The car was
black with the big canvass sunroof.  I could stand while driving,
straddling the shift lever between my legs with my upper body sticking out
of the sunroof, steering with my left hand and working the accelerator
pedal with my left foot.

In my sophomore year, I rented an apartment which had a locked storage area
in the basement, and using the How to Keep your Volkswagen ALIVE book, I
took the role of the Complete Idiot and proceeded to tear apart the
ticking engine.  I could find nothing wrong, got a reference for a good VW
mechanic in the area, put all the pieces in boxes and took them to his
shop.  He called me a couple days later and said Fixed, that will be $15
please.  The crank gear that drove the distributor was damaged, and that
was making the ticking noise.  He pressed off the old and installed a used
gear.  I put it all back together, installed that engine and motored
happily off.  However, lack of passenger heat and the frequency of the
valve adjustments laying in snow or on wet cold pavement was loosing all
appeal, so I sold that car for $300.

The replacement was a '67 Plymouth VIP, with a Commando V.  383 cubic
inches, but mine had the smaller carb and smaller intake valve openings.
It also burned almost as much oil as gasoline.  It really could roll
coal, especially on the freeway.  Moving up from the VW to the VIP, I
thought the car had tremendous power.  Drove it for a year or two, the
engine got weaker and weaker and finally was only running on 5 or 6 of the
8 cylinders.  I sold it for scrap for $75, but before I sold it I removed
the hood ornament and some other MOPAR bits that one of the many mechanics
who worked on the car admired, and sold those bits for another $75.  The
brake lights didn't work when I got the car, so I ran new wire to the rear
window and installed trailer lights there as brake lights.  I was amazed I
was never pulled over and questioned about that.

My older brother had by then destroyed the squareback, and replaced it with
a '73 super beetle, for which he paid the princely sum of $100 circa 1990.
He was in graduate school then, didn't really need a car but did need a
bicycle.  I had a nice Schwinn ten speed that I bought for $100, so I
traded him.  The Hundred Dollar Car as it was known was terribly rusty
and again had the miserable air-cooled VW passenger heat (or lack
thereof).  I suffered through another winter in Wisconsin.  The brakes were
weak and the tires needed replacing, and I think it also needed new tie rod
ends.  I took it to our family mechanic back in northern WI for the
work.  He put the car up on his lift, took one look at the rust, gently put
the car back down and told me he could see no value in doing anything to
the car and advised that it was too unsafe to drive, so that one also went
to the junkyard.  By the way, said junkyard in northern WI, Floyds Auto
Salvage was were all Dillon vehicles which were scrapped went back then.
We had a very good relationship with Floyd and his sons.  They had
dedicated one row just for Dillon vehicles, making it easier for us to pay
our respects when we went buy to get parts for the current fleet.  After
that I went through another hand-me-down family car, then decided to be
car-less my senior year.  When I graduated I bought a used '92 Honda Accord
EX coupe.  That was a decent car, drove it for about four years.  I'd
bought it for $11k with less than 50k miles, sold it four years later with
over 100k for $6400.

The only car I wish I had kept was that VIP.  I had a lead on a 440 V8 from
a police car, and really wanted to swap that in, but just didn't have the
time and money while in college.

Here's the Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Fury

Here's a picture of a similar car.  Mine was red with a black top.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/carphotosbyrichard/4595509050/

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/2012_0716Hawaii_Wedding0282_zpsb528f7cf.jpg.html

http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/2012_0716Hawaii_Wedding0281_zpse78ada8b.jpg.html

Ala Wai yacht harbour in front of the Ilikai hotel in Honolulu about 2 
years ago


RB

On 02/02/2015 1:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 4CV.
I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the little 
add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would allow me to move the 
snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and plow over there and get a car 
into the bay for repairs and such.  The stock I have from my employer would 
nearly cover such a project right now but we also need a roof on the house and 
a furnace which I guess get precedence. Someday though...
-Curt
   From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

dauphines are cool. I almost bought one for my first car (it was $35) but it had the dreaded automatic stick shift transmission and fortunately i studied it and read about it and didn't buy it.


The 4cv was the post wwII renault made from 1947 to 1961

i guess they are common in france …. who knows now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_4CV

i would sell mine

xx r



On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:


Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still 
available:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
   


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Folks

I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.

I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.

I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed to 
lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits it.

Another project. The car is complete less engine.

In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i think 
a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it in a 
garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the original 
20 or whatever it was.

I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No shooting.

Between having to pop for 18 hours of tuition and a substantial IRS bill that 
looms in April, I’m hanging on to as much of my disposable income as I can for 
now.

I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to avoid an even larger IRS bill in the 
future as I lose the youngster’s status as a dependent and the education 
credits.  What’s worse is that a lot of my deductions have actually decreased 
and will continue to as our income increases.

Guess it’s time for “additional withholding”…..ouch.

Dan


 On Feb 1, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 FYI
 
 
 Cabela's Onyx
 Beretta hasn't offered the Onyx model in years, but, now, Cabela's has 
 resurrected it. The shotgun is offered in a sporting version, trap gun, and 
 field gun. It has the standard features of any other Beretta over/under with 
 a low profile and strong action. It's a handsome gun with a black anodized 
 receiver and an upper mid-grade walnut stock. The gun sells for about $2,500.
 
 How's the shootin going?
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been doing that for years, as DINKs (dual income, no kids) we get 
screwed...
This year I'm experimenting with using the amount I would have withheld for 
charitable contributions. Specifically the Project for Awesome.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan
   
No shooting.

Between having to pop for 18 hours of tuition and a substantial IRS bill that 
looms in April, I’m hanging on to as much of my disposable income as I can for 
now.

I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to avoid an even larger IRS bill in the 
future as I lose the youngster’s status as a dependent and the education 
credits.  What’s worse is that a lot of my deductions have actually decreased 
and will continue to as our income increases.

Guess it’s time for “additional withholding”…..ouch.

Dan


 On Feb 1, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 FYI
 
 
 Cabela's Onyx
 Beretta hasn't offered the Onyx model in years, but, now, Cabela's has 
 resurrected it. The shotgun is offered in a sporting version, trap gun, and 
 field gun. It has the standard features of any other Beretta over/under with 
 a low profile and strong action. It's a handsome gun with a black anodized 
 receiver and an upper mid-grade walnut stock. The gun sells for about $2,500.
 
 How's the shootin going?
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message  
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

No shooting.
snip
I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to avoid an even larger IRS bill in 
the future as I lose the youngster’s status as a dependent and the education 
credits.  What’s worse is that a lot of my deductions have actually 
decreased and will continue to as our income increases.

Welcome to the middle class in the 21st century. 
For a shooting analogy, it seems every time the government aims it's tax at 
the rich, the shot drops and squarely hits the middle class. 

Rick 
Sent from my BlackBerry Z10

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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Detroit and Chicago have a lot of catching up to do!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

No worries,  I would be thrilled to talk about this issue and many others.
Unfortunately, we have not filed suit on this case yet.  I can tell you a
few interesting things that are a matter of public record: 

According to the FBI, between 2007 and 2011 there was an average of
396 shootings by police officers resulting in death in the entire United
States.  
According to the FBI, there were 698,460 police officers in the
United States in 2011.
Based on the FBI numbers there was 1 shooting death for every
1763.78 officers in the United States.

Between November 2010 and July 10, 2012, WPD Officers shot at least 16
different people, killing seven (7) individuals, and wounding at least nine
(9) others. 

In 2012 alone, Wichita Police Department officers shot and killed 5 people
and wounded 9 others. 

According to the FBI, Wichita had 646 officers in 2011 and a population of
386,796 people.  
Wichita has 1 police officer for every 598.75 people. 

Wichita's officer to shooting death ratio is 1 death for every 129 officers,
which is 13. times greater than the national average. 

In comparison to Wichita, Detroit, Michigan has 2,760 police
officers and a population of 713,239 people.  
Detroit has 1 police officer for every 258.41 people. 
Detroit had 411 total homicides in 2012, 377 in 2011, and 327 in
2010, which is approximately 14 times greater than the average rate in
Wichita.
Despite having nearly twice the population of Wichita, and more than
three times the number of police officers, Detroit only had 3
officer-involved shooting deaths in 2012.

Detroit has 1 shooting death to every 920 police officers, which is 9 times
LESS than the ratio for Wichita. 

Chicago has a population of 2,703,713 in 2011 and 12,092 officers for an
officer to citizen ratio of 223.59 to 1.  
Chicago had 8 officer shooting deaths in 2012. 

The ratio of shooting deaths to police officers in Chicago is one death for
every 1511 police officers.

Even though Chicago has approximately eight times as many people as Wichita,
the ratio of shooting death to police officers in Wichita (1/129) is nearly
twelve times greater than the ratio in Chicago (1/1511).


-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

Understood. It wasn't my intent to put you in a position of discussing
protected speech.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this
currently.  
 
 Don Snook 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
 Donald,
 
 Any comments on this?
 

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respon
d-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.sht
ml
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to 
work tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 
1/2 but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. I'd 
guess its low but thats just a guess.
Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the trailer) 
and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow because of 
limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and the track 
spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power POWER! Get on 
the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down rock side to side 
to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. Worked sweet, I bombed 
all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should have something neat on it. 
At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left side footboard (I've got the 
clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the camera dipped under the snow 
like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that came out...
-Curt


  From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Curt Raymond 
curtlud...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
Take  your passport just in case. Rain  sleet here on top of 4 of fresh wet 
snow.

On Feb 2, 2015 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message 
below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow 
is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. 
Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of 
snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none...
-CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down 
that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a 
long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed 
and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


      From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:

 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

 'Nother storm sending snow your way.

 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow.
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or
 bigger than last week's.

 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick,
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.



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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yabbut the worst part is that things like mortgage interest, a pretty decent 
deduction, is trending down as I pay off my house.  Yet - as I get older I make 
more money (I’m not complaining about that, mind you!)

I’ve got some credit card balances I’m thinking about taking a second mortgage 
out for to cut the interest cost and make the interest deductible….

Dan



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 Welcome to the middle class in the 21st century. 
 For a shooting analogy, it seems every time the government aims it's tax at 
 the rich, the shot drops and squarely hits the middle class. 
 
 Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 02/02/2015 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to work 
tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 1/2 
but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. I'd guess its 
low but thats just a guess.
Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the trailer) 
and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow because of 
limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and the track 
spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power POWER! Get on 
the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down rock side to side 
to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. Worked sweet, I bombed 
all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should have something neat on it. 
At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left side footboard (I've got the 
clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the camera dipped under the snow 
like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that came out...
-Curt


So, does that mean that you have the sort of flat rubber track on the 
Polaris? Pretty much like the track on the old Skidoo?
There were also cleated tracks available. I don't think they lasted as 
long but they sure had traction. One could pretty much go anywhere with 
those. Arctic Cat had the cleated tracks too back then.
We had a friend who had a Polaris twin - free air style with the engine 
jugs sticking up through a hole in the cowling and it had the cleated 
track. I remember him going up a steep hill in deep fresh powder and not 
even slowing down. My machine had the flatter rubber track and I would 
get stuck just about anywhere. I could not climb the hill even if I 
followed in his track.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:42:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 OM61x is the same isn't it?

These have the intake and exhaust manifolds on the passenger (right) side.


Craig

 OM601 is different, nothing crosses over the valve cover and the airbox
 is on the driver side while the exhaust manifold is on the passenger.
 I'm kind embarrassed how long I had to think to come up with that
 conclusion... -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Theres a kit for $150 or so which includes everything you need from the bracket 
to the LED to get the alternator alternating. I could put it together cheaper 
but would waste a bunch of time working out the bracket...
-Curt
  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 7:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars
   
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


 I bet. We're talking about converting our '52 Farmall Super M to 12v and 
 keeping the 6v starter.

My dad did a quick and dirty conversion on his H.
He bought a 12v internally regulated alternator but never got around to 
fabricating a mounting bracket for it.
So basically it got a 12v coil and battery, and you hooked it up to a battery 
charger once a week or so.

Mitch.     

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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
A neighbor in Houston who was a trauma surgeon moved to Atlanta and 
bought a 2CV to drive to/from work.  His wife is French, he has some 
sort of French background too, or he might have been a coonass, whatever 
I never asked, a French name.  But he liked the car, and was just weird 
enough to pull it off.


--R


On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
There's a guy who drives his 2CV to the gun range I am a member of.   
Last week it was cold out  (30s) and he arrived with a sheet of canvas 
covering 90% of the radiator opening - just like the big trucks. ;-)


I haven't spoken to him in a long time and don't know how many miles 
he puts on it... but he drives it all the time.


At the end of WW2 Prof. Porsche was put into a French jail - I wonder 
if he provided some design assistance then?  It was introduced in 1948 
-   hmmm


LarryT
91 300D
On 2/2/2015 2:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 
4CV.
I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the 
little add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would 
allow me to move the snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and 
plow over there and get a car into the bay for repairs and such.  The 
stock I have from my employer would nearly cover such a project right 
now but we also need a roof on the house and a furnace which I guess 
get precedence. Someday though...

-Curt
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  To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com

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[MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
After a year of problems with her eyes, Shirley can finally read!

She got new lenses after her cataract surgeries last summer, but with
the vitrectomies in her left eye and the capsulotomy in her right eye,
her eyes changed enough to make those lenses useless for reading. At her
final visit at Eye Associates in Santa Fe with the retinologist on 13
January, we asked about her reading problems. The technician had done
a refraction at the beginning of her appointment; the doctor said that
the new prescription just generated would solve her reading problems.

Shirley then went to Eye Associates Optical in Los Alamos (affiliated with
the medical section of Eye Associates) with the new prescription. We were
expecting to pay for new lenses, but when the lady there looked at her
record, she said that since it was so soon after she got her previous
lenses, they would cover the cost of the new lenses! Praise the Lord!

I was somewhat apprehensive that the new lenses would really solve the
problem, but when Shirley got the lenses, she said she could read. She
has packed away the large magnifying glass she had been using and is
reading well. She may have to have a capsulotomy on her left eye in the
future, but she is functioning well now.

In other news :-), WE HAVE A CONTRACT ON OUR HOUSE!!! Another Praise
the Lord! The contract is with a young man named Peter and his wife
Sarah, who are currently residing in Houston, Texas. Peter grew up in
Albuquerque and Sarah grew up here in Los Alamos. Sarah had seen our
home on zillow.com and had asked her parents, who live not too far from
us here on Barranca Mesa, to come and look at the house. They came on
24 January and were impressed by the house. After they reported back
to her, I received an email from and called Peter and later received a
call from Sarah. In our conversation, Peter said he had received his
official offer from the Lab here and was planning on coming out for a
house-hunting trip on 14 February. After talking with his new supervisor
at the Lab, Peter found they wanted him to start work on 06 April! He
moved up his trip to this past weekend, with us showing the house to him
and his mother-in-law on Saturday, 31 January. Late yesterday afternoon
he called us and said he wanted to come over to talk about an offer.
After he made a reasonable offer, we hashed out the details and agreed to
meet at Los Alamos National Bank (LANB) at 0900 this morning. One detail
that concerned me is that the house will have to close on 01 April, with
them getting posession then, 8-1/2 weeks from now.

After praying about our meeting, I met Peter in the lobby of LANB. We
wondered whether we should go to the title company in the lobby, or to
the bank's loan officers on the second floor. We decided to go to the
title company, which proved to be the correct choice.

The lady with whom we spoke at the title company, Patti, was, as Peter
said, Awesome! We went into the office and I said, This young man
wants to buy my house. Peter said that we were wondering whether we
should see them or the loan officer first. Patti said we had come to the
correct place and that they did this every day. She said we didn't need
a realtor and would be happy to guide us through the process. She then
took us into their conference room where we discussed the transaction.
She then got copies of a contract form for the three of us and went
through each item, telling us what it meant and suggesting how we should
handle it. Peter and I then went about filling out the contract form,
discussing how we would handle closing costs, inspections, and other
things. After filling it out, the president of the title company reviewed
it and said things were OK.

We then went across the lobby to the bank where Peter transferred the
earnest money to the title company's escrow account. After a brief trip
back to the title company to find telephone numbers for inspectors, we
shook hands and departed.

So, praise the Lord, we are progressing on the sale of the house!
Things to pray about now include,

 - Getting a high-enough appraisal for Peter to be able to
   get the loan from LANB,

 - Timely processing and funding of the loan,

 - Timely inspections and survey,

 - Wisdom, health, strength, and help for Shirley and me to get
   all things done we need to to be able to move out on 01 April
   and head for Indiana. (I'm in the middle of refurbishing our
   utility trailer and our vehicles need some work -- not the least
   of which is cleaning the mice which recently took up residence
   and their smelly, potentially disease-laden detritus out of the
   heater of our Big Red Van. It seems a little overwhelming, but I
   know the Lord is in charge -- though sometimes it's difficult to
   remember in the thick of things.)

Thank you all for patiently following our saga and for all your prayers.

God bless,


Craig


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dave wrote:
 The decent money at the time I
 bought the VW was a $2.25 per hour union job...

'60? - yes, that sounds like rollin' in the dough.
Interesting.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 00:16:02 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope, the OM602 has both intake and exhaust on the same side - the left
 side.

Hmmm ... I learn something new!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message  
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 4:36 PM
To: Mercedes List
Reply To: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

Yabbut the worst part is that things like mortgage interest, a pretty decent 
deduction, is trending down as I pay off my house.  Yet - as I get older I 
make more money 

Almost seems designed that way...‎

I’ve got some credit card balances I’m thinking about taking a second 
mortgage out for to cut the interest cost and make the interest deductible….


Mortgage interest deduction is a scam. On every dollar in interest you pay, you 
deduct 28 cents from your tax bill. The only ones making out are the banks. 

Spend a dollar, get 28 cents back. Better odds at a casino. 

Pay the house off, and be done. 

OR

Rent it out, buy a multi-million dollar mansion, don't make a payment, and wait 
to see if the bank ever throws you out. I have read a lot of stories about 
banks not foreclosing for various reasons.  

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You should feel good to support the smart investments that your tax 
money is used for!


If you take out a second mortgage or something like that, rates are very 
low now (4%) so the interest deduction won't be that much.


--R


On 2/2/15 5:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yabbut the worst part is that things like mortgage interest, a pretty decent 
deduction, is trending down as I pay off my house.  Yet - as I get older I make 
more money (I’m not complaining about that, mind you!)

I’ve got some credit card balances I’m thinking about taking a second mortgage 
out for to cut the interest cost and make the interest deductible….

Dan




On Feb 2, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
Welcome to the middle class in the 21st century.
For a shooting analogy, it seems every time the government aims it's tax at the 
rich, the shot drops and squarely hits the middle class.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
2CV is air cooled, like a VW but the engine is at the front, its front drive 
after all, 2 cylinder.
So he had canvas covering the grill but theres no radiator... :)
-Curt

  From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars
   
There's a guy who drives his 2CV to the gun range I am a member of.  
Last week it was cold out  (30s) and he arrived with a sheet of canvas 
covering 90% of the radiator opening - just like the big trucks.  ;-)

I haven't spoken to him in a long time and don't know how many miles he 
puts on it... but he drives it all the time.

At the end of WW2 Prof. Porsche was put into a French jail - I wonder if 
he provided some design assistance then?  It was introduced in 1948 -  
hmmm

LarryT
91 300D
On 2/2/2015 2:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 4CV.
 I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the little 
 add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would allow me to move 
 the snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and plow over there and get a 
 car into the bay for repairs and such.  The stock I have from my employer 
 would nearly cover such a project right now but we also need a roof on the 
 house and a furnace which I guess get precedence. Someday though...
 -Curt
        From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
  
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I grew up in Aiken - great little town - I was there from age 5 to 12 
and spent most of my time (exc for school) in the woods playing Army and 
Cowboy and Indians with my 2 best friends.  this was pre network - we 
didn't have a TV part of the time.  Rt 1 box 400H was the address ;-)   
I wonder if our house is still there?


LarryT
91 300D


On 2/2/2015 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:

Folks

I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.

I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.

I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed to 
lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits it.

Another project. The car is complete less engine.

In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i think 
a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it in a 
garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the original 
20 or whatever it was.

I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
'Hope it continues to go well with Shirley's sight and the house sale.

Wilton

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 and their smelly, potentially disease-laden detritus out of the
   heater of our Big Red Van. It seems a little overwhelming, but I
   know the Lord is in charge -- though sometimes it's difficult to
   remember

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
OM61x is the same isn't it? OM601 is different, nothing crosses over the valve 
cover and the airbox is on the driver side while the exhaust manifold is on the 
passenger.
I'm kind embarrassed how long I had to think to come up with that conclusion...
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 5:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5
   
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 00:16:02 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope, the OM602 has both intake and exhaust on the same side - the left
 side.

Hmmm ... I learn something new!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread David Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes

On 2/1/2015 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

David wrote:

By then I was earning decent money...

What type of work in Denver did you do?
What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
mao


 I was there in '59 and '60 doing various college drop out blue 
collar stuff.  Originally I had intended to go to a gunsmith school, the 
Colorado School of Trades, but that didn't work out.  The decent money 
at the time I bought the VW was a $2.25 per hour union job at a pork 
processing plant.  Lots of overtime so I was rich.  I lived in a rooming 
house in Edgewater that cost $30 a month.  Those were my strong 
back/weak mind days.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 A chicken is an egg's way of making another egg.

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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This machine has a cleated track, its an odd one because its an all the way 
across cleat on a '79. Most cleated tracks were 2/3 alternating by then. The 
2/3 tracks are much more stable and less likely to ice skate if you fish tail 
on ice.
Cleated tracks suck, they're heavy, rotten on ice and in powder they dig too 
much so if you don't keep on the power you sink like a stone. The early Ski-Doo 
rubber tracks are much lighter but only used a 1/4 lug so they don't do much 
in powder but are much better (though still poor) than a cleated track on ice. 
By about '73 Ski-Doo had gone to a 3/4 rubber lug track that was vastly 
superior to cleated tracks. Polaris and Arctic Cat hung on to cleats through 
about 1980 or '81 before they gave them up. All the cool kids with the muscle 
sleds convert from cleated to rubber tracks. Cleated tracks are pretty much 
banned in racing because the cleats become projectiles if the track throws 
one...
-Curt


  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
On 02/02/2015 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


 Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to 
 work tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 
 1/2 but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. 
 I'd guess its low but thats just a guess.
 Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the 
 trailer) and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow 
 because of limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and 
 the track spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power 
 POWER! Get on the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down 
 rock side to side to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. 
 Worked sweet, I bombed all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should 
 have something neat on it. At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left 
 side footboard (I've got the clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the 
 camera dipped under the snow like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that 
 came out...
 -Curt


So, does that mean that you have the sort of flat rubber track on the 
Polaris? Pretty much like the track on the old Skidoo?
There were also cleated tracks available. I don't think they lasted as 
long but they sure had traction. One could pretty much go anywhere with 
those. Arctic Cat had the cleated tracks too back then.
We had a friend who had a Polaris twin - free air style with the engine 
jugs sticking up through a hole in the cowling and it had the cleated 
track. I remember him going up a steep hill in deep fresh powder and not 
even slowing down. My machine had the flatter rubber track and I would 
get stuck just about anywhere. I could not climb the hill even if I 
followed in his track.

RB


   
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Dan

2015-02-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes i just did that with my mortgage when i finally converted it to fixed
from variable rate.
On Feb 2, 2015 5:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Yabbut the worst part is that things like mortgage interest, a pretty
 decent deduction, is trending down as I pay off my house.  Yet - as I get
 older I make more money (I’m not complaining about that, mind you!)

 I’ve got some credit card balances I’m thinking about taking a second
 mortgage out for to cut the interest cost and make the interest deductible….

 Dan



  On Feb 2, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  Welcome to the middle class in the 21st century.
  For a shooting analogy, it seems every time the government aims it's
 tax at the rich, the shot drops and squarely hits the middle class.
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I bet. We're talking about converting our '52 Farmall Super M to 12v and 
keeping the 6v starter.


My dad did a quick and dirty conversion on his H.
He bought a 12v internally regulated alternator but never got around to 
fabricating a mounting bracket for it.
So basically it got a 12v coil and battery, and you hooked it up to a battery 
charger once a week or so.


Mitch.  

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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
There's a guy who drives his 2CV to the gun range I am a member of.   
Last week it was cold out  (30s) and he arrived with a sheet of canvas 
covering 90% of the radiator opening - just like the big trucks.  ;-)


I haven't spoken to him in a long time and don't know how many miles he 
puts on it... but he drives it all the time.


At the end of WW2 Prof. Porsche was put into a French jail - I wonder if 
he provided some design assistance then?  It was introduced in 1948 -   
hmmm


LarryT
91 300D
On 2/2/2015 2:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 4CV.
I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the little 
add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would allow me to move the 
snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and plow over there and get a car 
into the bay for repairs and such.  The stock I have from my employer would 
nearly cover such a project right now but we also need a roof on the house and 
a furnace which I guess get precedence. Someday though...
-Curt
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[MBZ] Extraterrestrials. was: OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
A friend who worked in the psych department at the medical school told about a 
patient who was sent in from another hospital claiming he had been abducted by 
aliens. He was a farmer who was walking across a field when three large 
creatures with three legs came running at him from the woods. He tried to fight 
them off, but two of the creatures held each hand and the third pressed 
something hot on the back of his neck. He didn't remember anything after that 
until he woke up about a week later in a field that was 5 or 10 miles from his 
own farm. He remained quite upset and unable to work, so the local doctors sent 
him to the medical school which accepted unusual cases.
On his arrival, the ER resident sent him to the psych ward which did lab tests 
that turned out to be abnormal. After a week of psychotherapy, the doctors were 
still puzzled because he told the same story in every session and his behavior 
was perfectly normal.
Finally the attending told someone to shine a UV light on the back of his neck. 
Under UV light a large diffuse spot which seemed to have tentacles branching 
out from it could be seen.
His diagnosis was changed to possible insect bite and he was sent to the 
medical ward. Since I didn't know anyone there, I never heard what happened to 
him after that. 
Gerry

On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 12:00:00 -0500
David  Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   My first car was a 1953 Studebaker coupe I bought in 1958 from a 
 used car lot in Chicago.  It had been repainted (yellow) and I suspect 
 the odometer rolled back but it was lovely.  I don't think there has 
 been a more graceful car made.  Whitewall tires.  Three on the tree with 
 overdrive.  Flathead straight 6.  Not very powerful but smooth and it 
 handled much better than my folk's Pontiac station wagon.
 
   In that car I experienced an epiphany.  I was driving across 
 Kansas on my way to start a new life in Denver.  Suddenly everything was 
 suffused with the classic glow and I felt a sense of well being unknown 
 before.  The feeling lasted perhaps five minutes.  I had ingested only 
 coffee and scrambled eggs at a truck stop diner not long before.  Just 
 youth, I guess.
 
   The Studebaker got me to Denver but it sure didn't run well.  I 
 read the mile high elevation had an effect on internal combustion 
 engines.  I found a dial on the carburetor that allowed it to be set 
 leaner and that solved the problem.  The next big event was one day on 
 my way to work the rear end locked up at about 60 mph.  A seal had gone 
 and leaked the lube out.  Not long after that was fixed the foot brake 
 went to the floor and I sailed through a stoplight. (This was before the 
 day of two chambered brake reservoirs.)  A month or so later the 
 transmission began making bad sounds and shifting hard.  By then I was 
 earning decent money so I traded it in on a new VW Beetle.  Fortunately 
 the dealer didn't test drive the Studebaker.
 
   Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes my typo. Of course RF fender.
On Feb 1, 2015 11:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:31:15 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4868028916.html
 
  Is that a turbo?
 
  Should be. Can't see gills on lf fender.

 I thought the gills were on the right front fender, to provide more
 cooling for the turbo, which is generally on the right side.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The gill is clearly present in the first picture.  Looks like a nice car for 
a decent price.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

2015-02-02 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yes. It's an interesting color for sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 1, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Same brown interior as Dimitri's-formerly Curt's formerly my  240D. Has
 white exterior
 On Feb 1, 2015 12:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
 
 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
 
 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He
 matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the
 number and common name is for it?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

2015-02-02 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Funny how pin striping is making a comeback. Those hipster dudes at Mercedes 
Motoring are really into preserving them as well. 



Sent from my iPhone

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 I found the stripper who did these cars
 
 Does he work in bow tie and G-string?  :-)
 
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:05:31 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The stock I have from my employer would nearly cover such a project
 right now but we also need a roof on the house and a furnace which I
 guess get precedence.

Yeah, strange how that works ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎I am happy for the both of you. Glad tidings are always welcome. 

Sure you want to move to Indiana? 
We just got whacked with a blizzard... :)

Rick 
Who thinks Craig and Shirley will make a wonderful addition to the Hoosier 
state. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:31:08 -0500 Alice Strickland
alice.strickl...@gmail.com wrote:

 'Hope it continues to go well with Shirley's sight and the house sale.

Thank you, Wilton.

Any progress on your neues computenmachine?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Fantastic!  Thanks for sharing!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s all great news, Craig.  And it puts you in a far better timeframe for 
Indiana relative to the climate - at least now you won’t be moving up there in 
the dead of winter.

As my maternal grandmother always said, “Everything always works out for the 
best.”

I have yet to prove her wrong.

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via
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 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:21 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!
 
 After a year of problems with her eyes, Shirley can finally read!
 
 She got new lenses after her cataract surgeries last summer, but with the
 vitrectomies in her left eye and the capsulotomy in her right eye, her eyes
 changed enough to make those lenses useless for reading. At her final visit
 at Eye Associates in Santa Fe with the retinologist on 13 January, we asked
 about her reading problems. The technician had done a refraction at the
 beginning of her appointment; the doctor said that the new prescription just
 generated would solve her reading problems.
 
 Shirley then went to Eye Associates Optical in Los Alamos (affiliated with
 the medical section of Eye Associates) with the new prescription. We were
 expecting to pay for new lenses, but when the lady there looked at her
 record, she said that since it was so soon after she got her previous
 lenses, they would cover the cost of the new lenses! Praise the Lord!
 
 I was somewhat apprehensive that the new lenses would really solve the
 problem, but when Shirley got the lenses, she said she could read. She has
 packed away the large magnifying glass she had been using and is reading
 well. She may have to have a capsulotomy on her left eye in the future, but
 she is functioning well now.
 
 In other news :-), WE HAVE A CONTRACT ON OUR HOUSE!!! Another Praise the
 Lord! The contract is with a young man named Peter and his wife Sarah, who
 are currently residing in Houston, Texas. Peter grew up in Albuquerque and
 Sarah grew up here in Los Alamos. Sarah had seen our home on zillow.com and
 had asked her parents, who live not too far from us here on Barranca Mesa,
 to come and look at the house. They came on
 24 January and were impressed by the house. After they reported back to her,
 I received an email from and called Peter and later received a call from
 Sarah. In our conversation, Peter said he had received his official offer
 from the Lab here and was planning on coming out for a house-hunting trip on
 14 February. After talking with his new supervisor at the Lab, Peter found
 they wanted him to start work on 06 April! He moved up his trip to this past
 weekend, with us showing the house to him and his mother-in-law on Saturday,
 31 January. Late yesterday afternoon he called us and said he wanted to come
 over to talk about an offer.
 After he made a reasonable offer, we hashed out the details and agreed to
 meet at Los Alamos National Bank (LANB) at 0900 this morning. One detail
 that concerned me is that the house will have to close on 01 April, with
 them getting posession then, 8-1/2 weeks from now.
 
 After praying about our meeting, I met Peter in the lobby of LANB. We
 wondered whether we should go to the title company in the lobby, or to the
 bank's loan officers on the second floor. We decided to go to the title
 company, which proved to be the correct choice.
 
 The lady with whom we spoke at the title company, Patti, was, as Peter said,
 Awesome! We went into the office and I said, This young man wants to buy
 my house. Peter said that we were wondering whether we should see them or
 the loan officer first. Patti said we had come to the correct place and that
 they did this every day. She said we didn't need a realtor and would be
 happy to guide us through the process. She then took us into their
 conference room where we discussed the transaction.
 She then got copies of a contract form for the three of us and went through
 each item, telling us what it meant and suggesting how we should handle it.
 Peter and I then went about filling out the contract form, discussing how we
 would handle closing costs, inspections, and other things. After filling it
 out, the president of the title company reviewed it and said things were OK.
 
 We then went across the lobby to the bank where Peter transferred the
 earnest money to the title company's escrow account. After a brief trip back
 to the title company to find telephone numbers for inspectors, we shook
 hands and departed.
 
 So, praise the Lord, we are progressing on the sale of the house!
 Things to pray about now include,
 
 - Getting a high-enough appraisal for Peter to be able to
   get the loan from LANB,
 
 - Timely processing and funding of the loan,
 
 - Timely inspections and survey,
 
 - Wisdom, health, strength, and help for Shirley and me to get
   all things done we need to to be able to move 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:16:33 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That’s all great news, Craig.

Thank you.


 And it puts you in a far better timeframe for Indiana relative to the
 climate - at least now you won’t be moving up there in the dead of
 winter.

Yes, indeed. I wasn't looking forward to a three-vehicle caravan, two
towing trailers, going to Indiana in the midst of winter.


 As my maternal grandmother always said, “Everything always works out
 for the best.”
 
 I have yet to prove her wrong.

Good!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my 
registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit 
the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
wetter.
I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
great!
-Curt
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 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
'Nother storm sending snow your way.

We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
bigger than last week's.

MB Content:
Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.



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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
 bigger than last week's.
 
 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You need a more powerful snowblower. I think mine was made by mistake, an 8hp 
engine on a 27 cut. Usually mine would have a 5hp. Its got so much oopmph 
it'll throw water.
-Curt


  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
 bigger than last week's.
 
 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. - Interchange Manual

2015-02-02 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I've had decent luck finding the original part number and then doing google
searches on the number until you find a good parts site. There you put the
part number in and it lists all the applications/cars. Worked for heater
cores anyway.

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Visit a large local junkyard or your FLAPS.  They should have the manual
 and be willing to help look up parts.
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 Charleston, SC
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I am not usually a Leadfoot, but that Jag was so fast and so fun  to drive, 
that I did tend to drive it a little faster than normal.   The car was just 
ready to leap (pun intended). The first time I drove it, the previous owner 
showed me how to take off from a stop without squealing the tires. It really 
took a concerted effort to take off slowly.   But, it was scary fast when I 
floored at it any speed over 5 mph.  I have heard people say a car will throw 
you back in your seat and I always thought that was an exaggeration.  But, this 
car really would. And with all that torque, you really had to fight the wheel 
because the torque twisted the car.  

Don  

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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:44:21 + Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite 
 end of the spectrum from the 240D.  It was scary fast.  I was really 
 worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it.

Aha! Now we know the truth: Donald's alias is Leadfoot Louie!


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Extraterrestrials. was: OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I thought alien ships only flew at night after the bars closed and those
abducted only got colon exams. This is news, if the farmer was abducted in
broad daylight.

Grant who only hears the little voices in other peoples heads.. ;))

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:14 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 A friend who worked in the psych department at the medical school told
 about a patient who was sent in from another hospital claiming he had been
 abducted by aliens. He was a farmer who was walking across a field when
 three large creatures with three legs came running at him from the woods.
 He tried to fight them off, but two of the creatures held each hand and the
 third pressed something hot on the back of his neck. He didn't remember
 anything after that until he woke up about a week later in a field that was
 5 or 10 miles from his own farm. He remained quite upset and unable to
 work, so the local doctors sent him to the medical school which accepted
 unusual cases.
 On his arrival, the ER resident sent him to the psych ward which did lab
 tests that turned out to be abnormal. After a week of psychotherapy, the
 doctors were still puzzled because he told the same story in every session
 and his behavior was perfectly normal.
 Finally the attending told someone to shine a UV light on the back of his
 neck. Under UV light a large diffuse spot which seemed to have tentacles
 branching out from it could be seen.
 His diagnosis was changed to possible insect bite and he was sent to the
 medical ward. Since I didn't know anyone there, I never heard what happened
 to him after that.
 Gerry

 On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 12:00:00 -0500
 David  Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

My first car was a 1953 Studebaker coupe I bought in 1958 from a
  used car lot in Chicago.  It had been repainted (yellow) and I suspect
  the odometer rolled back but it was lovely.  I don't think there has
  been a more graceful car made.  Whitewall tires.  Three on the tree with
  overdrive.  Flathead straight 6.  Not very powerful but smooth and it
  handled much better than my folk's Pontiac station wagon.
 
In that car I experienced an epiphany.  I was driving across
  Kansas on my way to start a new life in Denver.  Suddenly everything was
  suffused with the classic glow and I felt a sense of well being unknown
  before.  The feeling lasted perhaps five minutes.  I had ingested only
  coffee and scrambled eggs at a truck stop diner not long before.  Just
  youth, I guess.
 
The Studebaker got me to Denver but it sure didn't run well.  I
  read the mile high elevation had an effect on internal combustion
  engines.  I found a dial on the carburetor that allowed it to be set
  leaner and that solved the problem.  The next big event was one day on
  my way to work the rear end locked up at about 60 mph.  A seal had gone
  and leaked the lube out.  Not long after that was fixed the foot brake
  went to the floor and I sailed through a stoplight. (This was before the
  day of two chambered brake reservoirs.)  A month or so later the
  transmission began making bad sounds and shifting hard.  By then I was
  earning decent money so I traded it in on a new VW Beetle.  Fortunately
  the dealer didn't test drive the Studebaker.
 
Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
 
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message 
below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow 
is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. 
Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of 
snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none...
-CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down 
that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a 
long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed 
and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
 bigger than last week's.
 
 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to outdo you, but back in college some upper classmen were selling a
perfect 1948 Cadillac convertible for $400.  I didn't have the cash

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wish I had kept that car A LOT longer!  But, as a college student, and
 just out of college, the money wasn't there to take care of it, nor did I
 know nearly enough about how to take care of the car.  I've often thought
 what might have been, had I been able to keep it, then I remember Hurricane
 Katrina and the 2-1/2 feet of water on my lot.  It would have been
 underwater, since I would not have evacuated with that car - nor would I
 have been able to get it higher, since the known garages were either closed
 or full.  Even had I gotten it into a garage, considering the lawlessness
 of the City of New Orleans after the storm, it likely would not have been
 around upon my return.  I'm glad that didn't happen, even if it wasn't mine!

 Thanks, Curly, on the recommendations for my 126 suspension issue.  I
 replaced the Bilsteins recently.  It made no difference, although the old
 ones were over 10 years old.  My mechanic will get the suggestion of new
 rear subframe bushings when I drop off the car today for a new resonator,
 which cracked last week and makes the car now sound like a truck, as well
 as ride like one!  (As you might imagine, I am still not capable of taking
 care of the car, myself - no real mechanical skills, nor the room to
 perform the repairs.)

 Mark

 
 Mark E. Peneguy
 1988 420SEL
 New Orleans
 peneguy...@cox.net

 On 2/1/2015 7:30 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! some car!  Too bad you didn't keep it!

 Bilstein shocks and new rear subframe bushings may help a lot.

 and Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I bet you wish you would have kept that one a little longer

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I am a long-time lurker and rarely have anything to offer, when I even
 get the chance to read the list digests.  The posts on first cars has been
 very interesting.

 When I was in college, in 1977, I bought my first car - a 1953 Mercedes
 300S Cabriolet.  I had no idea how rare the car was when I bought it,
 neither did the seller, though.  My education began 6 days later.  I just
 bought it because it looked cool, and a friend's father had one similar to
 it.

 I paid $2,500.00 for it.  It was in OK condition, but for a lot of rust
 in what was left of the floor pans.  The engine ran OK. It was loads of fun
 to drive, especially with the top down!

 I repainted the car and replaced the leather interior.  In addition, I
 fixed the rusted out floor pans with fiberglass (what did I know,
 then?).  When I bought the car, it had been painted British racing green
 and the leather, apparently original, had been painted grey.  I changed it
 to, well, you'll see in the link below.

 Because I could not afford to maintain the car, and I needed something
 reliable for long-distance driving (which the car may have been, but I
 really didn't want to drive it 125 miles a day), I sold the car two years
 after I bought it for what I had in it:  $10,000.00.  I think a properly
 fully restored at that time was selling for $17,500.00.  Mine was nowhere
 near restored, much less fully restored.  It did look good, though.

 A couple of weeks ago, I was watching the replay of the Barrett Jackson
 Scottsdale auction and saw a 1953 in the exact color combination go across
 the block.  It sold for $643,500.00! Here's a link for the sale showing
 that car:

 http://www.timesunion.com/carsense/slideshow/Hottest-
 cars-from-Scottsdale-auction-101332/photo-7405937.php

 I have no idea if the car that was auctioned was the one I sold, since I
 don't know anything about the car after I sold it, except to whom it was
 sold.

 Back to lurking...

 Mark

 P.S.  I'm also reading with interest about the 126 suspension. Mine
 rides like a truck!  It's time to get back to the ride it had when I bought
 it in 1993.  (O.K., now back to lurking!)

 
 Mark E. Peneguy
 1988 420SEL, 271K
 New Orleans
 peneguy...@cox.net

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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is from the dealership.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What? Where did you get it from? AFAIK MB says to use regular old gear
 oil. I used Mobil 1 in my '85 190D which is the only car I've ever done
 diff oil on. It made the noisy diff a little quieter.

 -Curt


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  To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

 The hyploid oil refill in the rear diff of my 1985 300TD set me back $90
 just for the fluid!

 On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  David wrote:
   By then I was earning decent money...
 
  What type of work in Denver did you do?
  What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
  Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The hyploid oil refill in the rear diff of my 1985 300TD set me back $90
just for the fluid!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 David wrote:
  By then I was earning decent money...

 What type of work in Denver did you do?
 What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
 Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What? Where did you get it from? AFAIK MB says to use regular old gear oil. I 
used Mobil 1 in my '85 190D which is the only car I've ever done diff oil on. 
It made the noisy diff a little quieter.

-Curt


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 To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 11:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars
   
The hyploid oil refill in the rear diff of my 1985 300TD set me back $90
just for the fluid!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 David wrote:
  By then I was earning decent money...

 What type of work in Denver did you do?
 What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
 Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this currently.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

Donald,

Any comments on this?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Of all the cars I have had, my 124 300D 2.5 that I sold to OK Don, was the 
first car I sold that I wanted back.  That was a great car!   Great mileage, 
decent speed, all the 124 improvements that made it SO MUCH better than the 
123's (in my opinion).  I would have kept driving it, but it was just getting 
to small for me especially when I had clients or colleagues ride with me.

-Original Message-
From: Curly McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 11:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4868028916.html




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Re: [MBZ] First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes
I wish I had kept that car A LOT longer!  But, as a college student, and 
just out of college, the money wasn't there to take care of it, nor did 
I know nearly enough about how to take care of the car.  I've often 
thought what might have been, had I been able to keep it, then I 
remember Hurricane Katrina and the 2-1/2 feet of water on my lot.  It 
would have been underwater, since I would not have evacuated with that 
car - nor would I have been able to get it higher, since the known 
garages were either closed or full.  Even had I gotten it into a garage, 
considering the lawlessness of the City of New Orleans after the storm, 
it likely would not have been around upon my return.  I'm glad that 
didn't happen, even if it wasn't mine!


Thanks, Curly, on the recommendations for my 126 suspension issue.  I 
replaced the Bilsteins recently.  It made no difference, although the 
old ones were over 10 years old.  My mechanic will get the suggestion of 
new rear subframe bushings when I drop off the car today for a new 
resonator, which cracked last week and makes the car now sound like a 
truck, as well as ride like one!  (As you might imagine, I am still not 
capable of taking care of the car, myself - no real mechanical skills, 
nor the room to perform the repairs.)


Mark


Mark E. Peneguy
1988 420SEL
New Orleans
peneguy...@cox.net

On 2/1/2015 7:30 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow! some car!  Too bad you didn't keep it!

Bilstein shocks and new rear subframe bushings may help a lot.

and Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

I bet you wish you would have kept that one a little longer

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I am a long-time lurker and rarely have anything to offer, when I even get the 
chance to read the list digests.  The posts on first cars has been very 
interesting.

When I was in college, in 1977, I bought my first car - a 1953 Mercedes 300S 
Cabriolet.  I had no idea how rare the car was when I bought it, neither did 
the seller, though.  My education began 6 days later.  I just bought it because 
it looked cool, and a friend's father had one similar to it.

I paid $2,500.00 for it.  It was in OK condition, but for a lot of rust in what 
was left of the floor pans.  The engine ran OK. It was loads of fun to drive, 
especially with the top down!

I repainted the car and replaced the leather interior.  In addition, I fixed 
the rusted out floor pans with fiberglass (what did I know, then?).  When I bought the 
car, it had been painted British racing green and the leather, apparently original, had 
been painted grey.  I changed it to, well, you'll see in the link below.

Because I could not afford to maintain the car, and I needed something reliable for 
long-distance driving (which the car may have been, but I really didn't want to drive it 
125 miles a day), I sold the car two years after I bought it for what I had in it:  
$10,000.00.  I think a properly fully restored at that time was selling for $17,500.00.  
Mine was nowhere near restored, much less fully restored.  It did look good, 
though.

A couple of weeks ago, I was watching the replay of the Barrett Jackson 
Scottsdale auction and saw a 1953 in the exact color combination go across the 
block.  It sold for $643,500.00! Here's a link for the sale showing that car:

http://www.timesunion.com/carsense/slideshow/Hottest-cars-from-Scottsdale-auction-101332/photo-7405937.php

I have no idea if the car that was auctioned was the one I sold, since I don't 
know anything about the car after I sold it, except to whom it was sold.

Back to lurking...

Mark

P.S.  I'm also reading with interest about the 126 suspension. Mine rides like 
a truck!  It's time to get back to the ride it had when I bought it in 1993.  
(O.K., now back to lurking!)


Mark E. Peneguy
1988 420SEL, 271K
New Orleans
peneguy...@cox.net

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Re: [MBZ] First and subsequent cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What year was your 280?   My first mercedes was a 1973 280 with none of
the complications you mentioned.  Drove like a dream.

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Marshall Field via Mercedes 
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 My first car was a '33 Chev coupe which I paid 35 bux for.  I used it to
 deliver newspapers and go fishing in the summer.  After my first sub-zero
 Minnesota winter of driving it, my Grandfather sold me his '36 Ford two
 door which had a marvelous gas fired heater which gave you roaring heat
 within a minute of start up.   It was a grand combination which I used for
 the rest of my paper boy career.

 When I came back from VN, I bought two cars at the same time.  The first
 was a '66 Shelby GT350 which I stupidly sold with much regret 5 years
 later.I was living in South NJ at the time and would slink down to the
 deserted road to Atlantic City late at night to open it up full bore and
 keep the plugs from fouling.

 The second car I bought was a '67 Ford Bronco with 289 and limited slip
 front and rear.  I drove that car for the next 44 years and 623,000 miles
 all over Canada, Mexico and the Southwest US.   I was doing a lot of off
 road driving in those days and never once did the Bronco strand me or fail
 to get me home.  I only did one engine rebuild, and that was close to
 500,000 miles.

 My first MB was a 114 series 280 sedan.   IT was a delight to drive but in
 those days, the MB engineers had to use hot water in an attempt to control
 emissions.  Pipes and hoses ran everywhere under the hood and the car was a
 monster to keep running because of it.

 Of late,  I have been strictly diesel.   I have two 123 diesel sedans, a
 '77 and a California version '85, and a '81 300TD wagon

 I live in a brutal desert climate.   If you break down, you can die in a
 half day from the heat and dehydration.So I keep the cars in tip top
 shade and do not skimp on tires, oil, under hood rubber or scheduled
 maintenance.   My orientation is Aviation, so I maintain the cars as if
 they were aircraft and follow the MB recommendations strictly by the book.

 Marshall Field
 Phoenix, AZ




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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
The 2.5 was a 5 Cylinder, yes it was turbo. 

-Original Message-
From: Fred Moir [mailto:fredh.s...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 10:35 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5

Yup! It's a turbo and a very rare 6cyl. 2.5 liter turbocharged engine engine.It 
must be an AMG extra power option.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 08:44:05 -0500
 To: 126die...@gmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 Sweet deal.  Is that a turbo?
 
 On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4868028916.html
 
 
  

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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the 
household budget for mechanized snow removal!  I keep thinking I’m going to 
trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going.  The only bad 
part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine.


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message 
 below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the 
 snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down 
 good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better 
 kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than 
 none...
 
 -Curt
 Fixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down 
 that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a 
 long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad 
 bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada...
 
 
 
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!
 
 
  On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
  I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
  my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
  hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice 
  and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its 
  easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will 
  be a little wetter.
  I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
  predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
  certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should 
  be great!
  -Curt
   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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  Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
  
  'Nother storm sending snow your way.
  
  We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
  Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
  week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
  bigger than last week's.
  
  MB Content:
  Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
  in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
  down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
  tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Mine is 6 hp 24  it will throw slush, but works better in snow.

I thought this snow might end up being more that last weeks storm of 
the century  It was running from the Mo River to PA.


You need a more powerful snowblower. I think mine was made by 
mistake, an 8hp engine on a 27 cut. Usually mine would have a 5hp. 
Its got so much oopmph it'll throw water.

-Curt


  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
  
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!



 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the 
backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, 
we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode 
another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft 
powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track 
and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now 
with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but 
we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last 
time. The riding should be great!

 -Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM

  Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 


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[MBZ] Totally and Completely OT: Warbirds!

2015-02-02 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
http://player.vimeo.com/video/93587997

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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Understood. It wasn't my intent to put you in a position of discussing 
protected speech.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this currently. 
  
 
 Don Snook 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
 Donald,
 
 Any comments on this?
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Totally and Completely OT: Warbirds!

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
One of the restored B-17s was in the area last week giving (selling) rides. I 
think they were in Brookville.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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 http://player.vimeo.com/video/93587997
 
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Re: [MBZ] Totally and Completely OT: Warbirds!

2015-02-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Very cool! Thanks.
There is a BT-13 across the runway from me, and an A-26 buzzed our runway a
couple of years ago . . .

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 http://player.vimeo.com/video/93587997





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[MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
Folks

I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.

I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.

I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed to 
lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits it.

Another project. The car is complete less engine.

In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i think 
a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it in a 
garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the original 
20 or whatever it was.

I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have a system at home that is completely free of fossil fuels and has a
rating of 3 shovel-power.  It comprises three different types of manual
snow shovels, with one horse to operate each one of them independently.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the
 household budget for mechanized snow removal!  I keep thinking I’m going to
 trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going.  The only
 bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine.


  On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the
 message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F
 and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still
 coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it
 was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is
 better than none...
 
  -Curt
  Fixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right,
 down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run
 down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old
 railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada...
 
 
 
  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
  No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!
 
 
   On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods
 without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers
 on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were
 nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and
 its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow
 will be a little wetter.
   I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now
 with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're
 almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding
 should be great!
   -Curt
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
   Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
  
   'Nother storm sending snow your way.
  
   We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow.
   Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this
   week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or
   bigger than last week's.
  
   MB Content:
   Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick,
   in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed
   down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name
   tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still
available:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Folks

 I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought
 a Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front)
 that was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.

 I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.

 I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We
 managed to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine
 that fits it.

 Another project. The car is complete less engine.

 In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i
 think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it
 in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the
 original 20 or whatever it was.

 I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in
 1990.
 thanks,

 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
WOW!  It was an OK car if you never drove it over 50mph . . . A friend in
H.S. had one, we re-built the engine three times in two years to keep it on
the street.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still
 available:

 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc



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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
dauphines are cool. I almost bought one for my first car (it was $35) but it 
had the dreaded automatic stick shift transmission and fortunately i studied it 
and read about it and didn't buy it.

The 4cv was the post wwII renault made from 1947 to 1961

i guess they are common in france …. who knows now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_4CV

i would sell mine

xx r

On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still 
 available:
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
  
 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Folks
 
 I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
 Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
 was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.
 
 I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.
 
 I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed 
 to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits 
 it.
 
 Another project. The car is complete less engine.
 
 In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i 
 think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it 
 in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the 
 original 20 or whatever it was.
 
 I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the new 
stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower is still 
cheaper than a new one too.
I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse doesn't 
work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the neighbor. 
He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd do the 
service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some grease 
on the pivots and change the oil, easy money...
-Curt
  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the 
household budget for mechanized snow removal!  I keep thinking I’m going to 
trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going.  The only bad 
part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine.




On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message 
below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow 
is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. 
Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of 
snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none...
-CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down 
that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a 
long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed 
and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
 bigger than last week's.
 
 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the =
new stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower is=
still cheaper than a new one too.
I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse does=
n't work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the nei=
ghbor. He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd do=
the service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some=
grease on the pivots and change the oil, easy money...
-Curt
  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the 
household budget for mechanized snow removal!  I keep thinking I’m going to 
trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going.  The only bad 
part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine.




On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message 
below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow 
is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. 
Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of 
snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none...
-CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down 
that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a 
long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed 
and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


  From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
   
No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


 On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without 
 my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and 
 hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and 
 smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to 
 spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little 
 wetter.
 I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with 
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost 
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be 
 great!
 -Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
 'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
 We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow. 
 Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this 
 week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or 
 bigger than last week's.
 
 MB Content:
 Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, 
 in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed 
 down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name 
 tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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[MBZ] Kaput komputer

2015-02-02 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
Mein komputer ist kaput.  Using SWMBO's iPad for a while so as not to miss out 
or have okiebenz withdrawal shakes.  Meanwhile, trying to set up neu komputer.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My sister had a Dauphine. It was one of the program cars that GM execs got 
when my Dad was working for GM in the late 60s.

I was always amazed by the pushbutton transmission it had.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still
 available:
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Folks
 
 I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought
 a Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front)
 that was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.
 
 I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.
 
 I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We
 managed to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine
 that fits it.
 
 Another project. The car is complete less engine.
 
 In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i
 think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it
 in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the
 original 20 or whatever it was.
 
 I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in
 1990.
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Millions of dollars... Don will be getting a new Jag AND a new BMW...

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this
 currently.

 Don Snook

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

 Donald,

 Any comments on this?


 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml



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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He shoul buy every one on this list a new jalopy.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Millions of dollars... Don will be getting a new Jag AND a new BMW...

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this
  currently.
 
  Don Snook
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
  To: Mercedes List
  Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
  Donald,
 
  Any comments on this?
 
 
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I second the motion, and call for a vote.  All in favor?

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 He shoul buy every one on this list a new jalopy.

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Millions of dollars... Don will be getting a new Jag AND a new BMW...

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this
  currently.
 
  Don Snook
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
  To: Mercedes List
  Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
  Donald,
 
  Any comments on this?
 
 
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What brand is it? I think you were robbed. IIRC it doesn't even take 2 full 
liters. $45/l is absurd.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars
   
This is from the dealership.


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

What? Where did you get it from? AFAIK MB says to use regular old gear oil. I 
used Mobil 1 in my '85 190D which is the only car I've ever done diff oil on. 
It made the noisy diff a little quieter.

-Curt


      From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 11:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

The hyploid oil refill in the rear diff of my 1985 300TD set me back $90
just for the fluid!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 David wrote:
  By then I was earning decent money...

 What type of work in Denver did you do?
 What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
 Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The guy I worked for when I was in tech school had 7-8 Jags at any given time, 
although no more than one or two were ever working simultaneously.

He had:

2- Mark IVs
1-XK140
1-XKE
2-XJ6s
1-XJ12

The XK140 barely ran, but when it did.the XKE was a badass car as well, 
even though it had the 3.8 liter six, and not the 4.2 or V12.

I got to drive the cars home if I wanted, as most of my hours were spent 
keeping them running. The XJ12 was the most amazing one, as you would be 
driving down a local road thinking you were doing 35 and would look down at the 
speedo and realize it was more like 60. The sense of speed was almost 
nonexistent in that car.

Too bad it was a carbureted model. Six side draft Solexs' that had to be 
balanced about every 500-750 miles or the gas mileage went from maybe 10 mpg 
well into the single digits.

Dan

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I am not usually a Leadfoot, but that Jag was so fast and so fun  to drive, 
 that I did tend to drive it a little faster than normal.   The car was just 
 ready to leap (pun intended). The first time I drove it, the previous owner 
 showed me how to take off from a stop without squealing the tires. It really 
 took a concerted effort to take off slowly.   But, it was scary fast when I 
 floored at it any speed over 5 mph.  I have heard people say a car will throw 
 you back in your seat and I always thought that was an exaggeration.  But, 
 this car really would. And with all that torque, you really had to fight the 
 wheel because the torque twisted the car.  
 
 Don  

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Good news all around!

Greg

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:21 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

After a year of problems with her eyes, Shirley can finally read!

She got new lenses after her cataract surgeries last summer, but with the
vitrectomies in her left eye and the capsulotomy in her right eye, her eyes
changed enough to make those lenses useless for reading. At her final visit
at Eye Associates in Santa Fe with the retinologist on 13 January, we asked
about her reading problems. The technician had done a refraction at the
beginning of her appointment; the doctor said that the new prescription just
generated would solve her reading problems.

Shirley then went to Eye Associates Optical in Los Alamos (affiliated with
the medical section of Eye Associates) with the new prescription. We were
expecting to pay for new lenses, but when the lady there looked at her
record, she said that since it was so soon after she got her previous
lenses, they would cover the cost of the new lenses! Praise the Lord!

I was somewhat apprehensive that the new lenses would really solve the
problem, but when Shirley got the lenses, she said she could read. She has
packed away the large magnifying glass she had been using and is reading
well. She may have to have a capsulotomy on her left eye in the future, but
she is functioning well now.

In other news :-), WE HAVE A CONTRACT ON OUR HOUSE!!! Another Praise the
Lord! The contract is with a young man named Peter and his wife Sarah, who
are currently residing in Houston, Texas. Peter grew up in Albuquerque and
Sarah grew up here in Los Alamos. Sarah had seen our home on zillow.com and
had asked her parents, who live not too far from us here on Barranca Mesa,
to come and look at the house. They came on
24 January and were impressed by the house. After they reported back to her,
I received an email from and called Peter and later received a call from
Sarah. In our conversation, Peter said he had received his official offer
from the Lab here and was planning on coming out for a house-hunting trip on
14 February. After talking with his new supervisor at the Lab, Peter found
they wanted him to start work on 06 April! He moved up his trip to this past
weekend, with us showing the house to him and his mother-in-law on Saturday,
31 January. Late yesterday afternoon he called us and said he wanted to come
over to talk about an offer.
After he made a reasonable offer, we hashed out the details and agreed to
meet at Los Alamos National Bank (LANB) at 0900 this morning. One detail
that concerned me is that the house will have to close on 01 April, with
them getting posession then, 8-1/2 weeks from now.

After praying about our meeting, I met Peter in the lobby of LANB. We
wondered whether we should go to the title company in the lobby, or to the
bank's loan officers on the second floor. We decided to go to the title
company, which proved to be the correct choice.

The lady with whom we spoke at the title company, Patti, was, as Peter said,
Awesome! We went into the office and I said, This young man wants to buy
my house. Peter said that we were wondering whether we should see them or
the loan officer first. Patti said we had come to the correct place and that
they did this every day. She said we didn't need a realtor and would be
happy to guide us through the process. She then took us into their
conference room where we discussed the transaction.
She then got copies of a contract form for the three of us and went through
each item, telling us what it meant and suggesting how we should handle it.
Peter and I then went about filling out the contract form, discussing how we
would handle closing costs, inspections, and other things. After filling it
out, the president of the title company reviewed it and said things were OK.

We then went across the lobby to the bank where Peter transferred the
earnest money to the title company's escrow account. After a brief trip back
to the title company to find telephone numbers for inspectors, we shook
hands and departed.

So, praise the Lord, we are progressing on the sale of the house!
Things to pray about now include,

 - Getting a high-enough appraisal for Peter to be able to
   get the loan from LANB,

 - Timely processing and funding of the loan,

 - Timely inspections and survey,

 - Wisdom, health, strength, and help for Shirley and me to get
   all things done we need to to be able to move out on 01 April
   and head for Indiana. (I'm in the middle of refurbishing our
   utility trailer and our vehicles need some work -- not the least
   of which is cleaning the mice which recently took up residence
   and their smelly, potentially disease-laden detritus out of the
   heater of our Big Red Van. It seems a little 

Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
I MEANT to say summer of '53.  

Wilton 

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Alice Strickland alice.strickl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 My first car summer was a 31 Model A Ford 5-window coupe that had just been 
 semi-restored; looked great and was in reasonably good condition;  usually 
 drove it at redline - 55 to 60 mph.  It literally hummed; worst thing about 
 it was getting it stopped.  Girl friend (SWMBO) loved it, and I'm still in 
 trouble for selling it and buying a ragged '40 Ford.
 
 Wilton
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 My first car (that I was totally responsible for i.e. license, insurance,
 all maintenance and any other expenses) was a '63 beetle that my 
 olderbrother gave up on.  He had rebuilt the motor using over-sized pistons, 
 the
 engine made a ticking noise when done, so he bought a '68 squareback.  I
 Ifound a used motor for the beetle and drove it off to college, University
 of Wisconsin - adjusting the valves every 2000 miles laying on cold wet
 pavement in the street outside my apartment was miserable.  The car was
 black with the big canvass sunroof.  I could stand while driving,
 straddling the shift lever between my legs with my upper body sticking out
 of the sunroof, steering with my left hand and working the accelerator
 pedal with my left foot.
 
 In my sophomore year, I rented an apartment which had a locked storage area
 in the basement, and using the How to Keep your Volkswagen ALIVE book, I
 took the role of the Complete Idiot and proceeded to tear apart the
 ticking engine.  I could find nothing wrong, got a reference for a good VW
 mechanic in the area, put all the pieces in boxes and took them to his
 shop.  He called me a couple days later and said Fixed, that will be $15
 please.  The crank gear that drove the distributor was damaged, and that
 was making the ticking noise.  He pressed off the old and installed a used
 gear.  I put it all back together, installed that engine and motored
 happily off.  However, lack of passenger heat and the frequency of the
 valve adjustments laying in snow or on wet cold pavement was loosing all
 appeal, so I sold that car for $300.
 
 The replacement was a '67 Plymouth VIP, with a Commando V.  383 cubic
 inches, but mine had the smaller carb and smaller intake valve openings.
 It also burned almost as much oil as gasoline.  It really could roll
 coal, especially on the freeway.  Moving up from the VW to the VIP, I
 thought the car had tremendous power.  Drove it for a year or two, the
 engine got weaker and weaker and finally was only running on 5 or 6 of the
 8 cylinders.  I sold it for scrap for $75, but before I sold it I removed
 the hood ornament and some other MOPAR bits that one of the many mechanics
 who worked on the car admired, and sold those bits for another $75.  The
 brake lights didn't work when I got the car, so I ran new wire to the rear
 window and installed trailer lights there as brake lights.  I was amazed I
 was never pulled over and questioned about that.
 
 My older brother had by then destroyed the squareback, and replaced it with
 a '73 super beetle, for which he paid the princely sum of $100 circa 1990.
 He was in graduate school then, didn't really need a car but did need a
 bicycle.  I had a nice Schwinn ten speed that I bought for $100, so I
 traded him.  The Hundred Dollar Car as it was known was terribly rusty
 and again had the miserable air-cooled VW passenger heat (or lack
 thereof).  I suffered through another winter in Wisconsin.  The brakes were
 weak and the tires needed replacing, and I think it also needed new tie rod
 ends.  I took it to our family mechanic back in northern WI for the
 work.  He put the car up on his lift, took one look at the rust, gently put
 the car back down and told me he could see no value in doing anything to
 the car and advised that it was too unsafe to drive, so that one also went
 to the junkyard.  By the way, said junkyard in northern WI, Floyds Auto
 Salvage was were all Dillon vehicles which were scrapped went back then.
 We had a very good relationship with Floyd and his sons.  They had
 dedicated one row just for Dillon vehicles, making it easier for us to pay
 our respects when we went buy to get parts for the current fleet.  After
 that I went through another hand-me-down family car, then decided to be
 car-less my senior year.  When I graduated I bought a used '92 Honda Accord
 EX coupe.  That was a decent car, drove it for about four years.  I'd
 bought it for $11k with less than 50k miles, sold it four years later with
 over 100k for $6400.
 
 The only car I wish I had kept was that VIP.  I had a lead on a 440 V8 from
 a police car, and really wanted to swap that in, but just didn't have the
 time and money while in college.
 
 Here's the Wikipedia entry:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Fury
 
 Here's a picture of a similar car.  Mine was red with 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:02:39 -0500 Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Fantastic!  Thanks for sharing!

You are welcome. Thank you for your enthusiastic response!


craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

2015-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:04:32 -0800 Greg Fiorentino
gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

 Good news all around!

Yes, indeed. We are thankful.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 4CV.
I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the little 
add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would allow me to move the 
snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and plow over there and get a car 
into the bay for repairs and such.  The stock I have from my employer would 
nearly cover such a project right now but we also need a roof on the house and 
a furnace which I guess get precedence. Someday though...
-Curt
  From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars
   
dauphines are cool. I almost bought one for my first car (it was $35) but it 
had the dreaded automatic stick shift transmission and fortunately i studied it 
and read about it and didn't buy it.

The 4cv was the post wwII renault made from 1947 to 1961

i guess they are common in france …. who knows now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_4CV

i would sell mine

xx r



On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still 
 available:
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
  
 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Folks
 
 I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
 Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
 was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.
 
 I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.
 
 I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed 
 to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits 
 it.
 
 Another project. The car is complete less engine.
 
 In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i 
 think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it 
 in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the 
 original 20 or whatever it was.
 
 I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Like the old Dodge Coronet and Edsel?  Those were totally awesome!  I
wonder why they haven't made a comeback.  It could be a retro facade behind
a digital transmission interface.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 My sister had a Dauphine. It was one of the program cars that GM execs
 got when my Dad was working for GM in the late 60s.

 I was always amazed by the pushbutton transmission it had.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still
  available:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Folks
 
  I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i
 bought
  a Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the
 front)
  that was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.
 
  I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.
 
  I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We
  managed to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene
 engine
  that fits it.
 
  Another project. The car is complete less engine.
 
  In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i
  think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then
 parked it
  in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than
 the
  original 20 or whatever it was.
 
  I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in
  1990.
  thanks,
 
  xx rick
  Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I will keep my snow shovels too.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the
 =
 new stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower
 is=
 still cheaper than a new one too.
 I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse
 does=
 n't work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the
 nei=
 ghbor. He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd
 do=
 the service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some=
 grease on the pivots and change the oil, easy money...
 -Curt
   From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

 Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the
 household budget for mechanized snow removal!  I keep thinking I’m going to
 trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going.  The only
 bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine.




 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message
 below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the
 snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down
 good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better
 kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than
 none...
 -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right,
 down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run
 down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old
 railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


   From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

 No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


  On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods
 without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers
 on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were
 nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and
 its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow
 will be a little wetter.
  I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should
 be great!
  -Curt
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
  'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
  We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow.
  Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this
  week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or
  bigger than last week's.
 
  MB Content:
  Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick,
  in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed
  down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name
  tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
First GM program car, 1964-5 or thereabouts:  Vauxhall wagon.  Total POS.

Second GM program car, late 1960s: Opel Kadette. Another POS, but that was 
partly because my Mom thrashed cars. It actually held up pretty well, 
considering the abuse it took.

Third program car, 1970-1: Renault Dauphine. Was my older sister's first car. 
What an indoctrination to motoring, eh?

All this time Dad was driving a brand new GM product of some sort. Pontiac 
Tempest, first year Camaro, etc.  He got a new car every six months.  My long 
suffering Mom got the GM dreck.

Dan

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Like the old Dodge Coronet and Edsel?  Those were totally awesome!  I wonder 
 why they haven't made a comeback.  It could be a retro facade behind a 
 digital transmission interface.
 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 My sister had a Dauphine. It was one of the program cars that GM execs got 
 when my Dad was working for GM in the late 60s.
 
 I was always amazed by the pushbutton transmission it had.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Renault Dauphine - now there's a blast from the past.  Parts are still
  available:
  http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1_dmd=1_mPrRngCbx=1_ipg=50LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_from=R14%7CR40_sacat=0_nkw=renault+dauphineLH_PrefLoc=3_sop=3rt=nc
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Folks
 
  I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought
  a Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front)
  that was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.
 
  I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.
 
  I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We
  managed to lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine
  that fits it.
 
  Another project. The car is complete less engine.
 
  In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i
  think a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked 
  it
  in a garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the
  original 20 or whatever it was.
 
  I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in
  1990.
  thanks,
 
  xx rick
  Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
No worries,  I would be thrilled to talk about this issue and many others.  
Unfortunately, we have not filed suit on this case yet.  I can tell you a few 
interesting things that are a matter of public record: 

According to the FBI, between 2007 and 2011 there was an average of 396 
shootings by police officers resulting in death in the entire United States.  
According to the FBI, there were 698,460 police officers in the United 
States in 2011.
Based on the FBI numbers there was 1 shooting death for every 1763.78 
officers in the United States.

Between November 2010 and July 10, 2012, WPD Officers shot at least 16 
different people, killing seven (7) individuals, and wounding at least nine (9) 
others. 

In 2012 alone, Wichita Police Department officers shot and killed 5 people and 
wounded 9 others. 

According to the FBI, Wichita had 646 officers in 2011 and a population of 
386,796 people.  
Wichita has 1 police officer for every 598.75 people. 

Wichita's officer to shooting death ratio is 1 death for every 129 officers, 
which is 13. times greater than the national average. 

In comparison to Wichita, Detroit, Michigan has 2,760 police officers 
and a population of 713,239 people.  
Detroit has 1 police officer for every 258.41 people. 
Detroit had 411 total homicides in 2012, 377 in 2011, and 327 in 2010, 
which is approximately 14 times greater than the average rate in Wichita.
Despite having nearly twice the population of Wichita, and more than 
three times the number of police officers, Detroit only had 3 officer-involved 
shooting deaths in 2012.

Detroit has 1 shooting death to every 920 police officers, which is 9 times 
LESS than the ratio for Wichita. 

Chicago has a population of 2,703,713 in 2011 and 12,092 officers for an 
officer to citizen ratio of 223.59 to 1.  
Chicago had 8 officer shooting deaths in 2012. 

The ratio of shooting deaths to police officers in Chicago is one death for 
every 1511 police officers.

Even though Chicago has approximately eight times as many people as Wichita, 
the ratio of shooting death to police officers in Wichita (1/129) is nearly 
twelve times greater than the ratio in Chicago (1/1511).


-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

Understood. It wasn't my intent to put you in a position of discussing 
protected speech.

Thanks,

Dan

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this currently. 
  
 
 Don Snook 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
 Donald,
 
 Any comments on this?
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respond-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.shtml
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

2015-02-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Take  your passport just in case. Rain  sleet here on top of 4 of fresh
wet snow.
On Feb 2, 2015 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message
 below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the
 snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down
 good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better
 kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than
 none...
 -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right,
 down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run
 down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old
 railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada...


   From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?

 No WET snow.  I hate shoveling margaritas!


  On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods
 without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers
 on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were
 nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and
 its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow
 will be a little wetter.
  I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with
 predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost
 certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should
 be great!
  -Curt
   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
 
  'Nother storm sending snow your way.
 
  We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far.  A real heart attack snow.
  Are they predicting much for you?  They are not calling this one this
  week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or
  bigger than last week's.
 
  MB Content:
  Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick,
  in the 126.  Could not get up the small hill when I left.  Backed
  down and went out the other gate with less incline.  Lousy no name
  tars on it.  But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks.
 
 
 
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