[MBZ] this CL ad is mine
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars some are mine and some belong to friends thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] E-Class fights back
Karma with a c. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It had the brick-proof windows --R On 3/3/15 1:07 AM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: https://autos.yahoo.com/news/car-thief-throws-brick-mercedes-throws-back- 180050064.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] this CL ad is mine
My-now dimitri's - 240D came from athens. PO was university employee. On Mar 3, 2015 10:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been to a commencement ceremony at U of GA in Athens. Quite a bucolic area. Drove through some violent thunderstorms from Atlanta to get there. Mecedes content: We were in a 1985 300CD. Trunk was a swimming pool afterwards, which was solved by replacing the TL lens gaskets On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I see at least two projects, put the 123 stick shift wagon drive train into the least rusty sedan body, then combine the good 240D cars to make a nice driver with stick shift. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:23:35 AM EST, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars some are mine and some belong to friends thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Rolls Royce turned into a working PU truck
https://autos.yahoo.com/photos/custom-rolls-royce-v8-pickup-conversion-slideshow/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] this CL ad is mine
I've been to a commencement ceremony at U of GA in Athens. Quite a bucolic area. Drove through some violent thunderstorms from Atlanta to get there. Mecedes content: We were in a 1985 300CD. Trunk was a swimming pool afterwards, which was solved by replacing the TL lens gaskets On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I see at least two projects, put the 123 stick shift wagon drive train into the least rusty sedan body, then combine the good 240D cars to make a nice driver with stick shift. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:23:35 AM EST, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars some are mine and some belong to friends thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] I want this
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/mercedes-benz-news/2288657-mercedes-g500-4-4-squared-serious.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I want this
I just want any car in that color. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/mercedes-benz-news/ 2288657-mercedes-g500-4-4-squared-serious.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] E-Class fights back
It had the brick-proof windows --R On 3/3/15 1:07 AM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: https://autos.yahoo.com/news/car-thief-throws-brick-mercedes-throws-back-180050064.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] this CL ad is mine
I see at least two projects, put the 123 stick shift wagon drive train into the least rusty sedan body, then combine the good 240D cars to make a nice driver with stick shift. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:23:35 AM EST, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars some are mine and some belong to friends thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] this CL ad is mine
And I had cousins and an aunt in Athens, GA. Furthermore, I was born in Athens, Greece. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My-now dimitri's - 240D came from athens. PO was university employee. On Mar 3, 2015 10:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been to a commencement ceremony at U of GA in Athens. Quite a bucolic area. Drove through some violent thunderstorms from Atlanta to get there. Mecedes content: We were in a 1985 300CD. Trunk was a swimming pool afterwards, which was solved by replacing the TL lens gaskets On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I see at least two projects, put the 123 stick shift wagon drive train into the least rusty sedan body, then combine the good 240D cars to make a nice driver with stick shift. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:23:35 AM EST, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars some are mine and some belong to friends thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Good thing you have another head... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell)
Many states allow full auto if you have the proper (and expensive) licensing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:19 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Sorry Randy your ignorance is showing. It is VERY difficult to own an automatic weapon. There is a licensing process and significant background checks, the gun is licensed much like a car. I believe you're thinking of semi-automatic weapons. Remember you are 100x more likely to die from a medical accident than be gunned down ANYWHERE, not just the mall. Do you not realize how big a difference that is? ALMOST NOBODY GETS SHOT IN THE US. More (way more, like 3x) people die from the flu for crying out loud, gun violence isn't even in the top 10. Your soap box sucks because its got no actual facts on it... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] this CL ad is mine
Rick wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4912896586.html we have too many cars massive 123 sell off of mostly rusty cars *sigh* Too far away. 1500 miles [2400 km] round trip. Even with my thrifty 6.2L suburban, that's likely over $300 in fuel. And my trailer is only big enough for one car. Guess I could bring a sway bar and swap it on site. That's a 2-hour or so job. Then I'd need a second driver. Any of those run on fuel other than diesel? Hope you find some good buyers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell)
You still need a gun that was originally licensed before the 1986 ban on full autos. I do wonder about the mini-guns I see on TV, must be some special licensing law there... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Addison Thompson' as.thomp...@cox.net; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Many states allow full auto if you have the proper (and expensive) licensing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:19 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell)
Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Well, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics in that order as I recall. AND unfortunately, people do get shot all of the time. BUT I did not expect that very many of you folks would agree with me even it I was correct. RB On 03/03/2015 2:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Sorry Randy your ignorance is showing. It is VERY difficult to own an automatic weapon. There is a licensing process and significant background checks, the gun is licensed much like a car. I believe you're thinking of semi-automatic weapons. Remember you are 100x more likely to die from a medical accident than be gunned down ANYWHERE, not just the mall. Do you not realize how big a difference that is? ALMOST NOBODY GETS SHOT IN THE US. More (way more, like 3x) people die from the flu for crying out loud, gun violence isn't even in the top 10. Your soap box sucks because its got no actual facts on it... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
The head that is on it now is the head that was on it when Dwight's brother got it years ago. It has a replacement head gasket. 4 of us looked over the head carefully checking for cracks, bumps and imperfections, Fred checked it for flatness and pronounced it okay. The same for the block. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R On 3/3/15 1:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rolls Royce turned into a working PU truck
So is that Travis McGee's Rolls? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rolls Royce turned into a working PU truck https://autos.yahoo.com/photos/custom-rolls-royce-v8-pickup-conversion-slide show/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Just the gasket On Mar 3, 2015 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Yeah, what happens in Canada? They apologize him to death? There are bad people in the world. Appeasing the bad people doesn't work. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Exactly right. And most likely before the cops could show up to do the deed. And most likely saving (my and) other lives in the process. Exactly right. The interesting thing is, most of these random shootings do not occur in places where the perp is likely to face opposition. They have the foresight to select a soft target, and when it is likely the target will not be soft, the perps either don't do the deed, or go somewhere easier. So deterrence works, and self-protection works. I understand that some people just can't grasp or accept the realities involved. Even in places where the gun laws are stringent, wackos find a way, either with a gun or something else. France and the Charlie Hebdo business comes to mind, even the cop did not have a weapon to defend himself and the people he was guarding. You have the right to your beliefs and I respect that though I disagree and find them puzzling when the facts mitigate against them. But, YMMV. --R (When seconds count, the police are only minutes away) On 3/3/15 3:19 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell)
You are correct. The sale of all new full automatic weapons is forbidden to private ownership since the 1986 law took effect. Only those owned prior to that date are permitted to be owned. The resultant effect has been a huge escalation in value for those guns. The $1,000 dollar full automatic cheaply made AK 47 now sells for $12,000 and up, plus fees for license. Production and sale of full auto continues to the military and select police units. Not private citizens. The mini guns you see on TV may be made for hollywood props ? I have contact with a manufacturer of the mini gun used by the military, and I can tell you, it is tightly and securely controlled.. every part is accounted for under DOD contract. Federal inspectors are on site full time. Interesting fact: If Chicago, Detroit, and NYC firearm murder statistics were removed from the calculations, USA would rate second from the bottom in worldwide number of firearm deaths.. I take note that those three cities have the most draconian gun laws against private ownership in the whole United States.. The conclusion can be made that murderers prefer unarmed victims.. On 3/3/15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You still need a gun that was originally licensed before the 1986 ban on full autos. I do wonder about the mini-guns I see on TV, must be some special licensing law there... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Addison Thompson' as.thomp...@cox.net; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Many states allow full auto if you have the proper (and expensive) licensing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:19 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] Facts
I take notice that those who are fearful of private citizens being in possession of a firearm, when trouble comes,, call for the police, who bring a firearm to protect them... after the fact. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away ... Hoplophobia: It means the fear of firearms. Now recognized as a psychosis, I believe. Some have it and have not been treated.. Some do not have it.. While I respect your illness, I will not participate in it by catching it. On 3/3/15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, what happens in Canada? They apologize him to death? There are bad people in the world. Appeasing the bad people doesn't work. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
The head bolts on the car are not 12 point. They are the old hex head style. According to the shop manual, I must use same style bolts that came with engine so it appears I must re-use them. My question is whether I can use them with a newer head- the one I got at ChowdahQ 2014 which I believe came from a car that took 12 point bolts. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns
Rich, et Alles.My car has a gun-sight already for a mini anything.Pedestrians mostly. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:23:05 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns From: mercedes@okiebenz.com A friend of mine owned a sporting goods store in MA of all places, and had a firearms sales permit, which apparently included automatic weapons. I could see mounting one on the front of the truck. Maybe both. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns
No doubt in the shape of a 3-pointed star. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fred Moir via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns Rich, et Alles.My car has a gun-sight already for a mini anything.Pedestrians mostly. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:23:05 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns From: mercedes@okiebenz.com A friend of mine owned a sporting goods store in MA of all places, and had a firearms sales permit, which apparently included automatic weapons. I could see mounting one on the front of the truck. Maybe both. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Bosch cross references.
Oh! Mighty Fount of Automotive Whizzdom.Is there a cross reference available to connect Bosch part numbers to MBZ number/chassis?I'm about Googled out. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Big engine parts?
Anybody got an in for parts for big OM engines? I need either an intake (I think anyway) manifold for an OM352A. Its the power plant for the snowmobile club's Pisten Bully PB200 groomer. 5.7l i6, its a big bugger. Ours is cracked. Going to try getting it welded but I said I'd look into a replacement. The club mechanic suggests its going to be thousands but I suspect he's wrong. He was SHOCKED when I said well hell its only an OM352A, Mercedes put that in the Unimog. he didn't know the engine had been in anything else. Of course I'd done some research... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns
A friend of mine owned a sporting goods store in MA of all places, and had a firearms sales permit, which apparently included automatic weapons. One night we were socializing and he says he just sold 2 mini-guns to some foreign buyer. These were the things that go like 3000 or 6000 rounds per minute, like mounted on helicopters for hosing down targets quickly. I think they were made by GE or some subsidiary, might have been located in MA, I don't remember. So this was intriguing, turns out his store had the necessary permits for selling and exporting this thing so he was basically just the pass-through on it. I don't recall him ever saying who the buyer was, or if we asked he averred on the identification, which was further intriguing as to who would be buying these, how they had the necessary permits to do so, with the foreign connection, etc. I could see mounting one on the front of the truck. Maybe both. --R On 3/3/15 3:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: You are correct. The sale of all new full automatic weapons is forbidden to private ownership since the 1986 law took effect. Only those owned prior to that date are permitted to be owned. The resultant effect has been a huge escalation in value for those guns. The $1,000 dollar full automatic cheaply made AK 47 now sells for $12,000 and up, plus fees for license. Production and sale of full auto continues to the military and select police units. Not private citizens. The mini guns you see on TV may be made for hollywood props ? I have contact with a manufacturer of the mini gun used by the military, and I can tell you, it is tightly and securely controlled.. every part is accounted for under DOD contract. Federal inspectors are on site full time. Interesting fact: If Chicago, Detroit, and NYC firearm murder statistics were removed from the calculations, USA would rate second from the bottom in worldwide number of firearm deaths.. I take note that those three cities have the most draconian gun laws against private ownership in the whole United States.. The conclusion can be made that murderers prefer unarmed victims.. On 3/3/15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You still need a gun that was originally licensed before the 1986 ban on full autos. I do wonder about the mini-guns I see on TV, must be some special licensing law there... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Addison Thompson' as.thomp...@cox.net; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Many states allow full auto if you have the proper (and expensive) licensing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:19 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
*sigh* If gun laws worked so well why does Canada still have firearms deaths and why are gang related homicides on the rise in Canada while they decline in the USA? -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Well, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics in that order as I recall. AND unfortunately, people do get shot all of the time. BUT I did not expect that very many of you folks would agree with me even it I was correct. RB On 03/03/2015 2:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Sorry Randy your ignorance is showing. It is VERY difficult to own an automatic weapon. There is a licensing process and significant background checks, the gun is licensed much like a car. I believe you're thinking of semi-automatic weapons. Remember you are 100x more likely to die from a medical accident than be gunned down ANYWHERE, not just the mall. Do you not realize how big a difference that is? ALMOST NOBODY GETS SHOT IN THE US. More (way more, like 3x) people die from the flu for crying out loud, gun violence isn't even in the top 10. Your soap box sucks because its got no actual facts on it... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in Canada. Let us face it, there are a lot of people out there who should not be permitted to have any sort of firearms. They are stupid, or criminally minded, or careless, or mentally unstable, bad tempered, etc. Being permitted to possess a weapon should require rigorous background checks, formal training, and ongoing checks to make sure things are not changing. Automatic weapons should only be had by the military for war. They should not be sold to anyone with sufficient cash and no obvious criminal record. RB who will now climb down off of the soapbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I'm thinking that diagnosis is important. How do I know the leak isn't stemming from the block? The head really did look ok. Perhaps I take the head off and ask machine shop to check. That way I can know for sure head is at fault. If that's confirmed then I can have them prepare the other head I got at ChowdahQ. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The head that is on it now is the head that was on it when Dwight's brother got it years ago. It has a replacement head gasket. 4 of us looked over the head carefully checking for cracks, bumps and imperfections, Fred checked it for flatness and pronounced it okay. The same for the block. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bosch cross references.
Depends. What are you trying to cross? Dan On Mar 3, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh! Mighty Fount of Automotive Whizzdom.Is there a cross reference available to connect Bosch part numbers to MBZ number/chassis?I'm about Googled out. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts?
Cast aluminum can be welded, however, it must be cleaned of all contaminants in order to get a good weld. It is very porous and collects grease and carbon residue, also, the porous surface will have corrosion on each area [mental picture of a cup of rusty BBs] .. Aluminum corrosion will ruin the weld connection at the molecular level.. bad weld.. Clean and bright, then use TIG with plenty of Argon flow to flush contaminants as the weld puddle boils out what's left. With skill and good metal management, a good weld will be done.. Also.. preheat AND post heat after welding of the casting to the right temperature will reduce after weld cracking. Cast Iron follows the same basic rules as far as pre and post heating and cleanliness. You will also want to stop drill the crack to keep weld heat from propagating the crack further into the casting. Then close that stop drill with weld puddle. The stop drill gives a radius rather than a sharp pressure point into the casting.. Good luck.. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cast iron is also not very easy I've heard, so if your guy knows how, that will probably be the best solution. The idea about calling The Classic Center is a good one, get a price for new parts, have a basis for comparison. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 9:24:23 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which makes me think its actually the exhaust manifold. There was great comment in the meeting over the possibility of welding cast iron. One guy, a professional welder, says he does it all the time so they're going to try welding first. -Curt From: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts? Welding cast aluminum (assuming that intake is aluminum) is a real art. A friend of mine welded a broken ear back onto an OM603 intake I had, it was a rather involved process. He'd never done that sort of thing, wanted the challenge, spent some time researching before he attempted it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns
Correct... the Mini Gun was developed by General Electric and first used in Vietnam conflict. An improved variant of that original patent is now manufactured by Dillion Precision of Scottsdale AZ. and sold to the military under DOD contract. As for having the necessary Department of Defense [DOD] clearance to sell internationally all it takes is paper and patience... some of that paper must be covered with special green ink, however, so it is not for the garden variety gun dealer. The restrictions have always been tight.. since 911 and the passage of Patriot Act.. it is positively made difficult to qualify and maintain. Then again... We are from the Government and we are here to help you is not the motto government functions under. It is much more We are not happy until you are not happy. ;)) Grant... Rank Civilian.. [comma deliberately omitted] On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A friend of mine owned a sporting goods store in MA of all places, and had a firearms sales permit, which apparently included automatic weapons. One night we were socializing and he says he just sold 2 mini-guns to some foreign buyer. These were the things that go like 3000 or 6000 rounds per minute, like mounted on helicopters for hosing down targets quickly. I think they were made by GE or some subsidiary, might have been located in MA, I don't remember. So this was intriguing, turns out his store had the necessary permits for selling and exporting this thing so he was basically just the pass-through on it. I don't recall him ever saying who the buyer was, or if we asked he averred on the identification, which was further intriguing as to who would be buying these, how they had the necessary permits to do so, with the foreign connection, etc. I could see mounting one on the front of the truck. Maybe both. --R On 3/3/15 3:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: You are correct. The sale of all new full automatic weapons is forbidden to private ownership since the 1986 law took effect. Only those owned prior to that date are permitted to be owned. The resultant effect has been a huge escalation in value for those guns. The $1,000 dollar full automatic cheaply made AK 47 now sells for $12,000 and up, plus fees for license. Production and sale of full auto continues to the military and select police units. Not private citizens. The mini guns you see on TV may be made for hollywood props ? I have contact with a manufacturer of the mini gun used by the military, and I can tell you, it is tightly and securely controlled.. every part is accounted for under DOD contract. Federal inspectors are on site full time. Interesting fact: If Chicago, Detroit, and NYC firearm murder statistics were removed from the calculations, USA would rate second from the bottom in worldwide number of firearm deaths.. I take note that those three cities have the most draconian gun laws against private ownership in the whole United States.. The conclusion can be made that murderers prefer unarmed victims.. On 3/3/15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You still need a gun that was originally licensed before the 1986 ban on full autos. I do wonder about the mini-guns I see on TV, must be some special licensing law there... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Addison Thompson' as.thomp...@cox.net; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Many states allow full auto if you have the proper (and expensive) licensing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:19 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts (Randy Bennell) Randy, Automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. You probably mean semi-automatic weapons which pretty much includes most modern rifles and pistols designs of the past century. Addison On Mar 3, 2015, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: From: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Date: March 3, 2015 10:00:43 AM PST On 03/03/2015 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the beauty in a well made firearm. I think it would be interesting to make an AK47 and have watched the video on how to do it. I own a couple of .22 rifles and have been considering something a bit bigger. However, I am happy with the fact that hand guns and automatic weapons are not common in
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
On 03/03/2015 11:08 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Any thoughts? IF we did not have your overheating problem to discuss, we would have to start another oil thread. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Yes, it seems like the cooled broth is more gelatinous when I have added the vinegar. I confess I don't understand the chemistry of that. Perhaps the acid facilitates dissolving of the cartilage and connective tissue too. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers Greg wrote: ...add a little vinegar to the water before boiling. It increases the acidity enough to help dissolve the calcium from the bones into the soup. They want cooled broth to be gelatinous. Does your vinegar addition help to get gelatinous broth when cooled? mao - at least this is not M1 versus Delvac... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
The shooting that occurred at the mall in Clackamas, OR in December 2012 was stopped by a licensed armed civilian after the shooter had killed 2 and seriously wounded one. The death toll could have been much worse if an armed civilian were not on the scene. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 6:23 PM To: 'Randy Bennell'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts Other than the Giffords shooting, is anyone aware of a mass shooting that was not in a safe gun-free zone? -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:01 PM ... You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I never saw any milky oil or oily coolant... Maybe a pictoral reminder of HeadgasketQ is in order: http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/HeadgasketQ?sort=3page=1 -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info You need the services of a good machine shop equipped with the ability to do a dye check for cracks. Not all cracks are visible to the naked eye, but will open up at operation temperatures and allow a leak path.. I would want to watch the condition of each cylinder when the head is removed.. the one with the head leak may have coolant resting on the piston, or in some cases.. that piston top will be steam cleaned while the rest are carbon covered. Question: Do you see any water in oil indications? Milky oil? If you have that, then the possibility for a crack or cavitation hole leak path below the piston is more likely .. but not always... a head crack can lose coolant and that coolant can migrate down past the piston and rings.. If I had Superman Xray vision.. I would be such a better mechanic.. lol... In any case.. teardown and inspection is in order.. now you can be more directed in the investigation to find the cause. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:39 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking that diagnosis is important. How do I know the leak isn't stemming from the block? The head really did look ok. Perhaps I take the head off and ask machine shop to check. That way I can know for sure head is at fault. If that's confirmed then I can have them prepare the other head I got at ChowdahQ. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The head that is on it now is the head that was on it when Dwight's brother got it years ago. It has a replacement head gasket. 4 of us looked over the head carefully checking for cracks, bumps and imperfections, Fred checked it for flatness and pronounced it okay. The same for the block. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Why is there a hurry to do more work? If the engine runs hundreds of miles north to Maine and back with no heating problem, why not leave it? Thermostat being blocked open isn't a terrible thing, is it? A bit of coolant leak is not as bad as an oil leak, is it? Run it as is and watch things closely. You drove it to Maine and back, no problem. It drives around town today, why not leave things as they are? Is there a hurry to fix? When you have mayonnaise oil... yeah, then there needs to be a fix sometime soon. But with performance as it stands now, drive it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Our faithless and hopey leader, Neville obama Chamberlain, knows that appeasing the bad actors will result in a peace and love utopia for all. Meanwhile the rest of us know that nukes and ICMBs are going to be flying, with the bullets and all manner of religious extremism. Adolph Putin is on an unimpeded march toward Chekoslovakia, then Poland once he has Ukraine. The conniving Hillary (the federal rules don't apply to me) made a mess of the muddled east, and now the catsup cowboy is not any better, but at least he has an official email address. clay On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, what happens in Canada? They apologize him to death? There are bad people in the world. Appeasing the bad people doesn't work. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
clay wrote: ...will result in a peace and love utopia for all. I like that. When does it start? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Dimitri.I'm battling a nasty cold so my responses do not contain the clarified murk that is usually emitted.My opinion is that, if the new head matches the gasket that you are going to use, then use the old bolts, again, if they match spec.As you have said, use the old bolts on the original engine,. The new head itself should not be any different from the old head as far as hold down method is concerned.Opinions are like a fundamental orifice, everybody has one. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:40:39 -0500 To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Yes but the factory manual explicit states that bolts must match engine.To quote: Be sure always to use the same cylinder head bolt version as that installed in the old engine My question is whether I can put a head that came from engine with newer style bolts on an engine which takes old style bolts. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts?
They usta put it in the MB L1113 to 1316 trucks built in brazil and assembled in SC or NC somewhere. try calling truck salvage yards, especially around warm metropoli, like dallas, houston and hotlanta, LA... or try the classic center. Give em one to noodle on. Might try tristar in phoenix area too. Anybody got an in for parts for big OM engines? I need either an intake (I think anyway) manifold for an OM352A. Its the power plant for the snowmobile club's Pisten Bully PB200 groomer. 5.7l i6, its a big bugger. Ours is cracked. Going to try getting it welded but I said I'd look into a replacement. The club mechanic suggests its going to be thousands but I suspect he's wrong. He was SHOCKED when I said well hell its only an OM352A, Mercedes put that in the Unimog. he didn't know the engine had been in anything else. Of course I'd done some research... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
The best I've found is an oil called Frog Lube ... Read up on it.. it's wonderful stuff... Might even work in Mercedes applications such as door locks and hood latches.. It repels water and will not attract sand or dirt.. http://froglube.com/ It will keep your semi-automatic working smoothly.. in the worst conditions. [I have no stock in the company.. just use its products with satisfaction] On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wha sort of oil does one use on an automatic gun? --R (sent from my miniPad) On Mar 3, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 03/03/2015 11:08 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Any thoughts? IF we did not have your overheating problem to discuss, we would have to start another oil thread. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Using bones for soup stock (or anything else you use stock in) is as old as cooking. Best to roast the bones to get rid of some of the fat an brown them a bit for more flavor, then simmer overnight (12 hours or longer, no boiling, simmering) to dissolve all the collagen. Very rich tasty broth, I save all my bones from chicken, pork, and beef and when I have a pot full make stock. Soup if you want, but I use stock in stew, braised dishes, and so forth. Waste not want not, and in this case, why throw out all that flavor? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Wha sort of oil does one use on an automatic gun? --R (sent from my miniPad) On Mar 3, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 03/03/2015 11:08 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Any thoughts? IF we did not have your overheating problem to discuss, we would have to start another oil thread. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
You need the services of a good machine shop equipped with the ability to do a dye check for cracks. Not all cracks are visible to the naked eye, but will open up at operation temperatures and allow a leak path.. I would want to watch the condition of each cylinder when the head is removed.. the one with the head leak may have coolant resting on the piston, or in some cases.. that piston top will be steam cleaned while the rest are carbon covered. Question: Do you see any water in oil indications? Milky oil? If you have that, then the possibility for a crack or cavitation hole leak path below the piston is more likely .. but not always... a head crack can lose coolant and that coolant can migrate down past the piston and rings.. If I had Superman Xray vision.. I would be such a better mechanic.. lol... In any case.. teardown and inspection is in order.. now you can be more directed in the investigation to find the cause. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:39 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking that diagnosis is important. How do I know the leak isn't stemming from the block? The head really did look ok. Perhaps I take the head off and ask machine shop to check. That way I can know for sure head is at fault. If that's confirmed then I can have them prepare the other head I got at ChowdahQ. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The head that is on it now is the head that was on it when Dwight's brother got it years ago. It has a replacement head gasket. 4 of us looked over the head carefully checking for cracks, bumps and imperfections, Fred checked it for flatness and pronounced it okay. The same for the block. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] Facts -- meenieguns
Dillon, not Dillion. No relation, but people have asked. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 6:14:20 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Correct... the Mini Gun was developed by General Electric and first used in Vietnam conflict. An improved variant of that original patent is now manufactured by Dillion Precision of Scottsdale AZ. and sold to the military under DOD contract. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
EPC knows all. If the original head part number has been superseded so that the new head part number can be used on old and new engines... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mobil 1 Oil Special
Mobil 1 Oil special http://slickdeals.net/f/7701409-5qt-mobil-1-full-synthetic-motor-oil-from-15-after-12-rebate-in-walmart-stores ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Other than the Giffords shooting, is anyone aware of a mass shooting that was not in a safe gun-free zone? -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:01 PM ... You, and your family enjoy the special American right to be shot down at the mall by some nut who legally purchased an automatic weapon down at the sporting goods store. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts?
Which makes me think its actually the exhaust manifold. There was great comment in the meeting over the possibility of welding cast iron. One guy, a professional welder, says he does it all the time so they're going to try welding first. -Curt From: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts? Welding cast aluminum (assuming that intake is aluminum) is a real art. A friend of mine welded a broken ear back onto an OM603 intake I had, it was a rather involved process. He'd never done that sort of thing, wanted the challenge, spent some time researching before he attempted it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I'll sell you my custom made hot tank for testing the head? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:39:14 PM EST, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking that diagnosis is important. How do I know the leak isn't stemming from the block? The head really did look ok. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Sowing machine oil?(snark off) Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 20:13:31 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Wha sort of oil does one use on an automatic gun? --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
When Tsar Vladimir is Tsar of all the Russias.Next year, perhaps?Or do I have too little faith in our dear leader. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 19:31:10 -0600 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts From: mercedes@okiebenz.com clay wrote: ...will result in a peace and love utopia for all. I like that. When does it start? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Cold running wears hard on the engine. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 19:41:22 -0600 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Why is there a hurry to do more work? If the engine runs hundreds of miles north to Maine and back with no heating problem, why not leave it? Thermostat being blocked open isn't a terrible thing, is it? A bit of coolant leak is not as bad as an oil leak, is it? Run it as is and watch things closely. You drove it to Maine and back, no problem. It drives around town today, why not leave things as they are? Is there a hurry to fix? When you have mayonnaise oil... yeah, then there needs to be a fix sometime soon. But with performance as it stands now, drive it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
Actually, the Tucson shooting of Giffords and the other victims did happen in a gun free zone also.. Apparently, criminals intent of violence and murder don't bother to read the signs. Some time back, I read a rather in-depth and factual piece on the Colorado theater mass murder which listed the shooter as having broken 57 gun laws before arriving at the theater to commit mass murder. All those laws did not deter this individual from breaking them. Also, there is now reasonable evidence which demonstrates the shooter selected the particular theater because it did not allow patrons who had concealed carry permits to have their legally owned and carried weapons inside the theater. Imagine that.. It gives rise to the question, would less people have been harmed if someone had the means to protect themselves and the lives of others. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When Tsar Vladimir is Tsar of all the Russias.Next year, perhaps?Or do I have too little faith in our dear leader. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 19:31:10 -0600 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facts From: mercedes@okiebenz.com clay wrote: ...will result in a peace and love utopia for all. I like that. When does it start? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Here's my hot tank in action: http://youtu.be/YTb7b5Vue48 You've got to seal the exhaust manifold to the head, airtight seal. Cut up an inner tube for some rubber to put between each exhaust valve and its seat in order to seal those. Rig a plate with an air hose quick release fitting to block the output of the exhaust manifold and provide a way to pressurize the exhaust passages. Cut an old barrel in half, put a propane burner under it, fill with water, away you go. Easy pessy, test your head for cracks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 3:39:14 PM EST, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking that diagnosis is important. How do I know the leak isn't stemming from the block? The head really did look ok. Perhaps I take the head off and ask machine shop to check. That way I can know for sure head is at fault. If that's confirmed then I can have them prepare the other head I got at ChowdahQ. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The head that is on it now is the head that was on it when Dwight's brother got it years ago. It has a replacement head gasket. 4 of us looked over the head carefully checking for cracks, bumps and imperfections, Fred checked it for flatness and pronounced it okay. The same for the block. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Thoughts: I recall, this car had the head replaced before? Or was it just the head gasket? On removal of the head, I would inspect carefully for any evidence of cavitation, with a weep hole in a cylinder wall, block crack, or other leak path, while the head is being checked. Open once.. check twice.. On 3/3/15, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri.WARNING. This is just an opinion.The head probably will not have been re-engineered to accept different types of bolts.The bolts went from torque-to-spec to torque to yield. In effect the old bolts became rigid under tension and the later ones retained some springy-nessProvided that the used 12 point bolts are within spec and not cracked, I'd re-use them after cleaning the block threads thoroughly and hand fitting them to ensure smooth fitment.Have you matched the head/gaskets to the olde and new parts?YMMV. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:48 -0500 To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:21 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I guess there is no hurry. It's obvious that problem is getting worse as hoses get pressurized but I guess I can leave rad cap loose. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why is there a hurry to do more work? If the engine runs hundreds of miles north to Maine and back with no heating problem, why not leave it? Thermostat being blocked open isn't a terrible thing, is it? A bit of coolant leak is not as bad as an oil leak, is it? Run it as is and watch things closely. You drove it to Maine and back, no problem. It drives around town today, why not leave things as they are? Is there a hurry to fix? When you have mayonnaise oil... yeah, then there needs to be a fix sometime soon. But with performance as it stands now, drive it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Mountain wrote: If the engine runs hundreds of miles north to Maine and back with no heating problem, why not leave it? Thermostat being blocked open isn't a terrible thing, is it? Yeah, it is. You could rig a variable radiator cover so you could keep the coolant temperature in the operating range - but that _is_ what the thermostat does! If the engine is run cold, it will get clogged with carbon. That is the whole point of the italian tuneup - run the engine hard enough it actually get hot and burns off the carbon. A cold thermostat, or a stuck open thermostat (especially in the winter!) will surly make it run cold - and risk overheating if not watched closely. A bit of coolant leak is not as bad as an oil leak, is it? Not until it is too low and causing the engine to overheat. Run it as is and watch things closely. You drove it to Maine and back, no problem. It drives around town today, why not leave things as they are? 'Cause fuel mileage will suffer, the oil will have extra soot load, the heater won't heat as well, and unless watched closely it could overheat and damage something. Is there a hurry to fix? I would fix it or NOT drive it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
once again, someone gets shot. And rightly so, IMO. What other outcome would you prefer? Counseling? No civilian guns in the country? Is there any reason to believe that a comprehensive gun ban would be more effective than prohibition or the war on drugs? We have plenty of examples to show how this works out: like LA, Chicago, and NYC. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:20 PM On 03/03/2015 2:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: If some dude pulled that sort of thing at a mall in SC or TX or most any state with a concealed carry law, the dude would not last long enough to wreak too much mayhem. And he would not be using an automatic weapon, nor a semi-automatic for long. --R But that just proves my point, does it not? You would shoot him so once again, someone gets shot. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bosch cross references.
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:02:32 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends. What are you trying to cross? From the sounds of it, his eyes ... :-) Craig On Mar 3, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh! Mighty Fount of Automotive Whizzdom.Is there a cross reference available to connect Bosch part numbers to MBZ number/chassis?I'm about Googled out. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
clay wrote: ...Reminded me of Granny having a pot on the stove each week where she was drowning bones. My neighbor said people keep this stuff on the stove all the time for generations. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Greg wrote: ...add a little vinegar to the water before boiling. It increases the acidity enough to help dissolve the calcium from the bones into the soup. They want cooled broth to be gelatinous. Does your vinegar addition help to get gelatinous broth when cooled? mao - at least this is not M1 versus Delvac... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts?
Welding cast aluminum (assuming that intake is aluminum) is a real art. A friend of mine welded a broken ear back onto an OM603 intake I had, it was a rather involved process. He'd never done that sort of thing, wanted the challenge, spent some time researching before he attempted it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Yes, wait for spring if you can. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 8:41:22 PM EST, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why is there a hurry to do more work? If the engine runs hundreds of miles north to Maine and back with no heating problem, why not leave it? Thermostat being blocked open isn't a terrible thing, is it? A bit of coolant leak is not as bad as an oil leak, is it? Run it as is and watch things closely. You drove it to Maine and back, no problem. It drives around town today, why not leave things as they are? Is there a hurry to fix? When you have mayonnaise oil... yeah, then there needs to be a fix sometime soon. But with performance as it stands now, drive it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts?
Cast iron is also not very easy I've heard, so if your guy knows how, that will probably be the best solution. The idea about calling The Classic Center is a good one, get a price for new parts, have a basis for comparison. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 3, 2015 9:24:23 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which makes me think its actually the exhaust manifold. There was great comment in the meeting over the possibility of welding cast iron. One guy, a professional welder, says he does it all the time so they're going to try welding first. -Curt From: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big engine parts? Welding cast aluminum (assuming that intake is aluminum) is a real art. A friend of mine welded a broken ear back onto an OM603 intake I had, it was a rather involved process. He'd never done that sort of thing, wanted the challenge, spent some time researching before he attempted it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - 2015 F150 Review
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/1-000-hard-miles-in-the-most-expensive-2015-ford-f-150-1676530984 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
It is interesting to note that yesterday, over 280,000,000 American Citizens who are gun owners harmed no one and if they used their guns for any purpose, they did it responsibly. Also interesting is that the vast majority of police officers, who are armed each day of work, and who often are in contact with Citizens who have broken the law, spend their entire professional career without ever drawing their gun and discharging it. Yet, in one TV show alone, in a 20 minute period, as entertainment, I watched actors play police officers who discharged their weapons many times, without regard for who might be downstream of the path of the bullet. I also note that these action hero actors, who are paid huge sums for shooting people for entertainment, are the most outspoken against Second Amendment Right to self defense by any means. [keep and bear arms does not define only firearms] Fact vs Fantasy seems to be something a segment of the world population has difficulty keeping separate. Thank you for your efforts to direct the thinking of these foreign individuals to understand this very special American Right. On 3/2/15, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If they (or most Americans, for that matter) understood the facts, they would be much less eager to surrender their freedoms. -Original Message- From: Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:55 PM I had two guys in class last week from Europe. It took a lot of statistical explaining for them to realize that most everything they thought they knew about the USA and guns was wrong. They kept saying but what we see on TV. and I kept telling them they should know better since they both work for TV stations... While we are all inundated with images of people being shot the chances of any single average person being shot is exceedingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
