Re: [MBZ] Keep those 123 chassis' rolling
Yeah yeah, i'm here. Don't get your tin foil hats out just yet. Its not quite as simple as they make it sound. I won't get into here on a public forum, but you really don't have to worry. I hate to break it to you, but none of us are special enough to warrant the huge amount of effort it takes a hacker to make something like this happen to take over the car your grandma drives to church. But note that cars have had cellular phones in them for a really long time... ever hear of on-star? And as for jobs in NJ... mine is just fine... I don't work for MBUSA, I work for another sister company. And in this case too, things are not as simple as you read online and in the papers. Lots of people still in Montvale working away. Jaime On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's here - hackers can now take over a new car. The original article is at: http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/ Craig I hope Jaime is reading this. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
I am so so glad I went to a small state college. I read about schools indoctrinating students and refusing to listen to other points of view and I'm horrified, that was not my experience at all. We were encouraged to disagree with our teachers, if you could back up your point they'd listen.Part of it, I suspect, is the program of study, in film and video if it looks good it is good. Broke a rule but got away with it? Awesome, good for you. Break a rule and the finished product sucks? Back to the drawing board. The other nice thing was that failure is just a learning experience that makes your next project better, nobody is perfect the first time and because of that we were encouraged to experiment which then made you better. The kids in more conventional fields of study hated us. I had one design class where for a month we worked with crayons. Yeah crayons. You go out and try to make a crayon drawing that doesn't look like a crayon drawing and tell me how easy it is... -Curt Tain't so anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
I would have an interesting story to tell about the wages of sin at UNC-CH, outside the whole football program, but it would violate my integrity to do so, so I won't. But in universities, independent simple solutions are not acceptable, the school has to form committees to beat the issue to death and then come up with something that doesn't address the issue because actually doing so might offend someone. Goes double for integrity because that is not valued much any more unless it fits some other agenda. --R You nailed that! The other alternative is to make illegal threats to student,staff, faculty who know anything about the illegal/unethical activity,and sweep it under the rug. I'm thinking it is about time to find my box of evidence and start making noise about 20 year old illegal actions. This approach is generally applied by the Univ to illegal activities they DON'T want discussed, because in the official doublespeek, it never happened BTDT. It ain't pretty! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
Having worked at a big 10 school and an SEC school I totally agree and i would abolish the NCAA. We had George Jefferson. He looked and sounded like George Jefferson on the Movin on up TV show. He real name was George. His last name was different but similar. George's job was to pressure profs and TAs to make sure athaelites passed classes by any means (all condoned) and to make sure those of certain equal pigmentation passed classes and gragitated, using any means possible (also condoned) Before I could gragitate with an advanced degree (debris?) i was forced to go in and get a signature from George Jefferson. It turned my stomach. It turned my stomach to have to go in there and look at this little being (not a man) and grovel for a signature. It was very difficult to not speak the truth and just grovel for the signature. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Gotcha. Friend of mine did the super-duper power blender that destroys everything in its path diet for a month. Definitely lost weight, but said he felt like he was a baby or invalid since he never ate solid food. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I know. Stream of consciousness at work here. Revised recipe: In addition to grapes, frozen blueberries, strawberries, and half an orange I also added a few pieces of frozen banana. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
I wasn’t suggesting making peanut butter, I was pointing out that there is a product out there that provides the flavor of peanut butter without the fat and oils. It’s called PB2”. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I searched PB recipes for the Blendtec but you have to add oil and honey. :( Or, use a spatula every 20 seconds to scrape it down. Made a Blendtec drink this AM using fresh frozen blueberries, whole organic strawberries (from Costco - with their tops), a few large whie seedless grapes, half a cara cara orange (from Costco), and 3/4 cup of ice. More like a slushie but quite delish! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
I know. Stream of consciousness at work here. Revised recipe: In addition to grapes, frozen blueberries, strawberries, and half an orange I also added a few pieces of frozen banana. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wasn’t suggesting making peanut butter, I was pointing out that there is a product out there that provides the flavor of peanut butter without the fat and oils. It’s called PB2”. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I searched PB recipes for the Blendtec but you have to add oil and honey. :( Or, use a spatula every 20 seconds to scrape it down. Made a Blendtec drink this AM using fresh frozen blueberries, whole organic strawberries (from Costco - with their tops), a few large whie seedless grapes, half a cara cara orange (from Costco), and 3/4 cup of ice. More like a slushie but quite delish! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
Location of this car? Mobile website surfing stinks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
Why does Penn State come to mind right now? I worked at a major university for a couple of years while I attended school there. While there can be some pretty sordid things that go on in the corporate world, I was stunned at some of the things I heard and saw while I was working there. Convinced me it was not a long term thing for me…. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have an interesting story to tell about the wages of sin at UNC-CH, outside the whole football program, but it would violate my integrity to do so, so I won't. But in universities, independent simple solutions are not acceptable, the school has to form committees to beat the issue to death and then come up with something that doesn't address the issue because actually doing so might offend someone. Goes double for integrity because that is not valued much any more unless it fits some other agenda. --R You nailed that! The other alternative is to make illegal threats to student,staff, faculty who know anything about the illegal/unethical activity,and sweep it under the rug. I'm thinking it is about time to find my box of evidence and start making noise about 20 year old illegal actions. This approach is generally applied by the Univ to illegal activities they DON'T want discussed, because in the official doublespeek, it never happened BTDT. It ain't pretty! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Now THIS Guy is on Crack
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2416689-1972-mercedes-280se-4-5-liter.html#post12568137 Really nice car, but $18,000?? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why does this keep happening
Glad you figured that out, did you leave the washers off the other head too? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
I believe it was in Daytona Beach, FL. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Location of this car? Mobile website surfing stinks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where not to drive Limos
Fault of the driver, unless the entity that designed or built that crossing can be proven to have not followed code or law or good engineering practice. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 12:44:57 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 23/07/2015 4:29 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11758225/1-tonne-freight-train-ploughs-into-limousine-at-level-crossing.html Limo driver must have been going pretty fast to hop up crossways of the railroad track. What make was it before the conversion? ___ Poor driver got hung up on the railway crossing. So, is it the fault of the town or the railway for having the hump in the road, or the fault of the limo service or limo builder for using or building a vehicle that is unable to negotiate the local roads? Thankfully, all got out of the car before the train came. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
Thanks Dan, pix look like FL. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 12:48:17 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe it was in Daytona Beach, FL. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Location of this car? Mobile website surfing stinks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
+1 +1 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:07:16 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com Re. the unsavory crap (sham, paper, classes) going on for nearly 20 years at UNC-CH to accommodate athletes, an article in today's Raleigh News and Observer, discusses two working groups (committee's) looking at UNC integrity and policies. Co-chair said that they first want to define integrity. To save 'em possibly several weeks of haggling, I'm volunteering my definition of it learned on Momma and Daddy's laps and at their knees nearly 80 years ago - put simply, integrity is the ability to do what is right when nobody else is watching. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
Re. the unsavory crap (sham, paper, classes) going on for nearly 20 years at UNC-CH to accommodate athletes, an article in today's Raleigh News and Observer, discusses two working groups (committee's) looking at UNC integrity and policies. Co-chair said that they first want to define integrity. To save 'em possibly several weeks of haggling, I'm volunteering my definition of it learned on Momma and Daddy's laps and at their knees nearly 80 years ago - put simply, integrity is the ability to do what is right when nobody else is watching. Wilton Hear Here! (stomping a a cane on the floor) Attaboy! I nominate Wilton for pres, chancellor or whatever they call the head honkey at UNC, and/or chair of the board of regents or whatever body is supposed to oversee the universities for the State! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Angie got a bottle of it, awful stuff... The fats are what makes peanut butter good and the fats are probably good for you. Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone? I wasn’t suggesting making peanut butter, I was pointing out that there is a product out there that provides the flavor of peanut butter without the fat and oils. It’s called PB2”. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I searched PB recipes for the Blendtec but you have to add oil and honey. :( Or, use a spatula every 20 seconds to scrape it down. Made a Blendtec drink this AM using fresh frozen blueberries, whole organic strawberries (from Costco - with their tops), a few large whie seedless grapes, half a cara cara orange (from Costco), and 3/4 cup of ice. More like a slushie but quite delish! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not sure about ...Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... I see more zero fat, and lowfat, in the yogurt offerings. There is little to no relationship between science and what's on the shelves. Marketing drives what you find on the shelves - demand by advertising. Yes, you need fat for your nerves to work . . . -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
T'is where I went to school. I know the head of the department, he was just starting out when I was about halfway through school. We talk about the old days and very little has changed there base curriculum wise. The tools are different now but the theory is the same. We also get a number of interns from there where I work now. They come out as good as ever, of course you get the occasional knuckle head but the internship program is kind of a last quality control check... -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics I am so so glad I went to a small state college. I read about schools indoctrinating students and refusing to listen to other points of view and I'm horrified, that was not my experience at all. We were encouraged to disagree with our teachers, if you could back up your point they'd listen.Part of it, I suspect, is the program of study, in film and video if it looks good it is good. Broke a rule but got away with it? Awesome, good for you. Break a rule and the finished product sucks? Back to the drawing board. The other nice thing was that failure is just a learning experience that makes your next project better, nobody is perfect the first time and because of that we were encouraged to experiment which then made you better. The kids in more conventional fields of study hated us. I had one design class where for a month we worked with crayons. Yeah crayons. You go out and try to make a crayon drawing that doesn't look like a crayon drawing and tell me how easy it is... -Curt Tain't so anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
I think you guys are confirmed bottom-feeders, struggling to justify why the old adage about a cheap Mercedes is wrong. Assuming the seller is not lying, a low mile and rust free diesel wagon that is not rough should easily be worth twice what they go for all the time. Local market will drive the price. If I were shopping for another wagon, I'd be all over that. -- Max Dillon (who paid too much for his wagon) Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Curt wrote: The fats are what makes peanut butter good... Mountain wrote: I'm not sure about ...Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... I see more zero fat, and lowfat, in the yogurt offerings. There can be a long, long distance between science and marketing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
--R wrote: the peanut fats and oils are actually the good fats and oils, though a lot of calories come with them I make smoovies like that occasionally but use unsweetened vanilla almond milk so it isn't as slushy +1 +1 Both are wonderful comments - thanks. I abhor the rape of food, removing fat, adding fake sweet, etc. I want fuel for my brain and fat does that. Too much fear and loathing of the food supply. Good food is becoming rare. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - UNC-CH integrity ethics
On July 24, 2015 at 12:55 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why does Penn State come to mind right now? You mean the place where a former assistant coach kept raping little boys in the locker room long after he retired? Where the so-called whistleblower, upon finding a felony in progress (retiree sodomizing a boy who appeared to be ten years old), ran home to phone his daddy for advise on what to do about it, before waiting until the next day to inform school officials (not campus police) what he saw? The worst part of it is, if the testicle deficient young man who witnessed the rape had done the right thing (tackle the rapist and call the police to come get feces/blood samples off the guy's penis for DNA testing) he probably would never get another job in a university setting again. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
On July 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: His is about a $3500 car Spending a ton of money bringing a car up to snuff does not raise its market value a corresponding amount, but it does make the car a much better deal at $3500 than a $2500 car that still needs all that stuff done to it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
A common line of thinking on Craigslist. “I just put an exorbitant amount of money into this car so now it’s worth that and more.” Never seems to work out, either. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Spending a ton of money bringing a car up to snuff does not raise its market value a corresponding amount, but it does make the car a much better deal at $3500 than a $2500 car that still needs all that stuff done to it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why does this keep happening
On July 24, 2015 at 12:02 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Supposedly with this engine you replace the nuts but not the studs. In as case I think I know what happened this time. I forgot to put the but thick washers on that go between the head and the nut. Maybe that threw off the torque settings. I did order a complete set anyway Any chance the nuts bottomed out without the washers and you twisted the studs off when you ran out of threads? Mitch. +1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wagon
Exactly. Otherwise it would be a 2-2.5k car like you say. Maybe even less. 124 diesels are almost free these days around here. There was a decent 87 300d on cl a couple months ago that would not start after a filter change. Somebody bought it as I saw it in the last couple of weeks, runs and drives now. Price was $1900. Several weeks later it is now $900 and the ad is still up so I assume he has not sold it. I have a rough 87TD with a #17 head I but on cl for $1500 to see if there would be any action and I have got no bites. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: His is about a $3500 car Spending a ton of money bringing a car up to snuff does not raise its market value a corresponding amount, but it does make the car a much better deal at $3500 than a $2500 car that still needs all that stuff done to it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why does this keep happening
On July 24, 2015 at 12:02 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Supposedly with this engine you replace the nuts but not the studs. In as case I think I know what happened this time. I forgot to put the but thick washers on that go between the head and the nut. Maybe that threw off the torque settings. I did order a complete set anyway Any chance the nuts bottomed out without the washers and you twisted the studs off when you ran out of threads? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
I searched PB recipes for the Blendtec but you have to add oil and honey. :( Or, use a spatula every 20 seconds to scrape it down. Made a Blendtec drink this AM using fresh frozen blueberries, whole organic strawberries (from Costco - with their tops), a few large whie seedless grapes, half a cara cara orange (from Costco), and 3/4 cup of ice. More like a slushie but quite delish! On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A woman I work with swears by some sort of peanut butter powder for adding the PB flavor to smoothies and the like without the fat. I can get specific information if you want it. Dan On Jul 23, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: I must say I am disappointed at the lack of MATURITY of this group. C'mon... With the well known cheapskate tenor of this group, you expect value in request for high end BlendTec recipes? Actually, my son sent us a BlendTec and we use it a couple times each week. We buy outdated reduced price veggies and fruits and blend the garbage to drink as smoothie. When blended together with mostly okay fruit, the inherent rot and mold blend right out to okay. Good source of fruit and fiber at low cost. The Costco PB can't be beat for price. Dry roast peanuts cannot be found any more. I used to grind bulk purchased DeafSmith nuts for PB when we lived in CO using a hand grinder to produce a product not unlike the Kirkland PB. Even the 50# buckets of PB don't compare pricewise with the Kirkland as far as I have found. The Kirkland stuff is from Portales NM. Tell me I'm not a cheapskate. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where not to drive Limos
On 23/07/2015 4:29 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11758225/1-tonne-freight-train-ploughs-into-limousine-at-level-crossing.html Limo driver must have been going pretty fast to hop up crossways of the railroad track. What make was it before the conversion? ___ Poor driver got hung up on the railway crossing. So, is it the fault of the town or the railway for having the hump in the road, or the fault of the limo service or limo builder for using or building a vehicle that is unable to negotiate the local roads? Thankfully, all got out of the car before the train came. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
the peanut fats and oils are actually the good fats and oils, though a lot of calories come with them I make smoovies like that occasionally but use unsweetened vanilla almond milk so it isn't as slushy --R On 7/24/15 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn’t suggesting making peanut butter, I was pointing out that there is a product out there that provides the flavor of peanut butter without the fat and oils. It’s called PB2”. Dan On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I searched PB recipes for the Blendtec but you have to add oil and honey. :( Or, use a spatula every 20 seconds to scrape it down. Made a Blendtec drink this AM using fresh frozen blueberries, whole organic strawberries (from Costco - with their tops), a few large whie seedless grapes, half a cara cara orange (from Costco), and 3/4 cup of ice. More like a slushie but quite delish! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
Oh what have I gotten myself into this time? Fred, Buster and I went down to CT today and picked up a 2005 Golf TDI. It looks pretty good although both front fenders have what looks like parking lot damage. The interior is good, no real rust underneath, engine starts good and sounds good. The weird thing is after I'd backed it up about 5 feet the transmission seemed to lock right up. Strangely with it out of gear it rolls fine... We farted around with it a few minutes. I even had Tom drive it, he couldn't seem to believe it, the look on his face was priceless. He'd moved the car around recently and it was fine.So we rolled it up onto the trailer (dragged it up the hill with my old '84 190D that I then donated to Tom's program for kids) and interestingly when we unloaded it it drove okay. It protested and made sounds like a locked up CV joint but it went. It did act kind of like a locked up CV joint but since the differential didn't make the other wheel spin maybe its 2 locked up CVs? That seems unlikely. Anyway we dragged it to my VW Guru who will have a look at it next week. I got it for about triple the standard Kaleb price at which point I think even if the car is junk I'll still come out okay... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
-Curt wrote: The fats are what makes peanut butter good... Isn't fat the primary flavor element in food? i.e. marbled steak, not fatfree steak. I'm not sure about ...Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... I see more zero fat, and lowfat, in the yogurt offerings. I want full fat Stonyfield/BrownCow/others. I theorize that obese comes from fatfree and lowfat. Body is not sated and eats more. What we don't want is the usual offerings of PB that adds hydrogenated oils and hfcs or sweetener. PB is great - we eat Portales, NM Kirkland PB daily. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Maple syrup, a couple big scoops of vanilla ice cream and a splash of heavy cream make a nice smoothy... Best if you could get the ice cream from the amish guy I met in Michigan last year. Used an ice cream maker belted to a 100 year old John Deere hit and miss engine. So good you wanted to eat the cup. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone? --R wrote: the peanut fats and oils are actually the good fats and oils, though a lot of calories come with them I make smoovies like that occasionally but use unsweetened vanilla almond milk so it isn't as slushy +1 +1 Both are wonderful comments - thanks. I abhor the rape of food, removing fat, adding fake sweet, etc. I want fuel for my brain and fat does that. Too much fear and loathing of the food supply. Good food is becoming rare. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
Sounds like a money pit. Mileage? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 6:11:45 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh what have I gotten myself into this time? Fred, Buster and I went down to CT today and picked up a 2005 Golf TDI. It looks pretty good although both front fenders have what looks like parking lot damage. The interior is good, no real rust underneath, engine starts good and sounds good. The weird thing is after I'd backed it up about 5 feet the transmission seemed to lock right up. Strangely with it out of gear it rolls fine... We farted around with it a few minutes. I even had Tom drive it, he couldn't seem to believe it, the look on his face was priceless. He'd moved the car around recently and it was fine.So we rolled it up onto the trailer (dragged it up the hill with my old '84 190D that I then donated to Tom's program for kids) and interestingly when we unloaded it it drove okay. It protested and made sounds like a locked up CV joint but it went. It did act kind of like a locked up CV joint but since the differential didn't make the other wheel spin maybe its 2 locked up CVs? That seems unlikely. Anyway we dragged it to my VW Guru who will have a look at it next week. I got it for about triple the standard Kaleb price at which point I think even if the car is junk I'll still come out okay... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
Manual or auto? If an auto, check the fancy flywheel. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
I don't think so, 150,000 miles give or take a bit. -Curt From: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI Sounds like a money pit. Mileage? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 6:11:45 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh what have I gotten myself into this time? Fred, Buster and I went down to CT today and picked up a 2005 Golf TDI. It looks pretty good although both front fenders have what looks like parking lot damage. The interior is good, no real rust underneath, engine starts good and sounds good. The weird thing is after I'd backed it up about 5 feet the transmission seemed to lock right up. Strangely with it out of gear it rolls fine... We farted around with it a few minutes. I even had Tom drive it, he couldn't seem to believe it, the look on his face was priceless. He'd moved the car around recently and it was fine.So we rolled it up onto the trailer (dragged it up the hill with my old '84 190D that I then donated to Tom's program for kids) and interestingly when we unloaded it it drove okay. It protested and made sounds like a locked up CV joint but it went. It did act kind of like a locked up CV joint but since the differential didn't make the other wheel spin maybe its 2 locked up CVs? That seems unlikely. Anyway we dragged it to my VW Guru who will have a look at it next week. I got it for about triple the standard Kaleb price at which point I think even if the car is junk I'll still come out okay... -Curt http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
Manual, its still got the fancy flywheel. VW Guru and I discussed the possibility of the DMF (dual mass flywheel) being the problem but can't see how it would lock up the transmission. The clutch still works, it just won't turn the wheels. -Curt From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI Manual or auto? If an auto, check the fancy flywheel.Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
It is the adulterated fats that kill. Natural fats, as nature intended are necessary for life, but not available in prepared foods. Raw, not GMO foods have fats that are unadulterated. almonds, Macadamia nuts, black walnuts, hickory nuts are all good sources, as are organically grown animals who are not fed GMO grain. old varieties of peanuts grown organically should be good also. I'm guessing Monsanto/dupont etc. manufactures most peanuts grown as a crop, so they won't be good. All we need to exist is Omega 6 fatty acids and Omega 3 fatty acids. The body manufactures every thing else from these two basics. Angie got a bottle of it, awful stuff... The fats are what makes peanut butter good and the fats are probably good for you. Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fats and EFAs Wuz: Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
-Curt wrote: The fats are what makes peanut butter good... Isn't fat the primary flavor element in food? i.e. marbled steak, not fatfree steak. Yes I'm not sure about ...Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... I see more zero fat, and lowfat, in the yogurt offerings. I want full fat Stonyfield/BrownCow/others. I theorize that obese comes from fatfree and lowfat. Body is not sated and eats more. There are a few doctors who are figuring out the profession has been manipulated to benefit the drug pushers. What we don't want is the usual offerings of PB that adds hydrogenated oils and hfcs or sweetener. PB is great - we eat Portales, NM Kirkland PB daily. mao Mao, you have JB Sanfillippo in your front yard. Jasper's PB from Sanfillippo (used to have The Home Economist retail stores) is a natural PB. For all: Read this article 2-3 times. It is hard to absorb all the terminology and the research in one pass. http://www.brianpeskin.com/BP.com/about/PeskinPrimer.pdf My cardiologist is absolutely clueless, a complete slave to the (legal) drug pushers. Most doctors are slaves to the drug pushers. The first couple ebooks on this list are worth reading also. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=lee+hieb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Maple syrup, a couple big scoops of vanilla ice cream and a splash of heavy cream make a nice smoothy... Best if you could get the ice cream from the amish guy I met in Michigan last year. Used an ice cream maker belted to a 100 year old John Deere hit and miss engine. So good you wanted to eat the cup. -Curt Real milk is so much better for you and for ice cream. It is hard to find real milk. In this state it is illegal. Same for Maple surp THAT is real food. Monsanto does not have GMO maple trees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Local farm has a small grocery store with mostly local products, including raw milk. Priced at about 2x homogenized milk, they couldn't keep it in stock, kept increasing the price until they found the market price, which is like $8 a half gallon. I grew up on raw milk, straight from the nearest neighbors dairy farm. Store milk is like water to me, nothing in it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 It has a clinton connection: whitewater ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GMO Wuz: OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
What's wrong with GMO food? Don't make me lump you in with the Global Warming religion nut cases worshipping Gaia... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 As long as you don't group me with wacko the insane! Its all good. I don't understand what is wrong with GMO food myself. What I can tell you is that products made from GMO corn turn my insides out. This leads me to be skeptical of beef and pork and chicken and turkey fed GMO grain, and even venison here where most of their diet is gmo corn. Is it the Bt? could be, it is a poison bred into the plant. Is it something else? Could be. I started having trouble with corn products 30 years, which just about coincides with when the first Bt corn came out. I have no science. Just results of trial and error food elimination. What I have been able to figure out is that when I was a kid, all our food came from the farm, except sometimes bread. Then we started buying milk in place of milking a Hereford. and so it went until here we are now. Almost nothing is homegrown or farm fresh, or eaten in season. BTW, had the first helping of homegrown green beans tonight, along with a heritage black cherry tomato. Great real food! Had a nice crop of sugar pea pods this summer so far.Way better than cat poop jelly! So I am seeking out things to do with exotic grains that Monsanto has not heard of, and new types of those exotic seeds (grains) IMHO, it is a conservative approach. Conserve. Conservation. It is what we all do with our old MBs. Not a trendy term. The state conservation commissions set up to conserve natural resources, have become DNRs with the mission of dictating who gets to use natural resources. The socialist approach, not a conservation or conservative approach. Even andrew is a conservative at heart, as are all liberals. He does an excellent job conserving old MBs. When GMO is only accelerating the plant selection that has been done for eons, I don't have a problem with it. When GMO is grafting in bits of other organisms, we may run into trouble. Such may be the case with Bt grains. .02 ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
But can it do this: http://jalopnik.com/watch-a-volkswagen-diesel-totally-dominate-a-ferrari-at-1719359271 Dan rollin’ coal On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds like a money pit. Mileage? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 6:11:45 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh what have I gotten myself into this time? Fred, Buster and I went down to CT today and picked up a 2005 Golf TDI. It looks pretty good although both front fenders have what looks like parking lot damage. The interior is good, no real rust underneath, engine starts good and sounds good. The weird thing is after I'd backed it up about 5 feet the transmission seemed to lock right up. Strangely with it out of gear it rolls fine... We farted around with it a few minutes. I even had Tom drive it, he couldn't seem to believe it, the look on his face was priceless. He'd moved the car around recently and it was fine.So we rolled it up onto the trailer (dragged it up the hill with my old '84 190D that I then donated to Tom's program for kids) and interestingly when we unloaded it it drove okay. It protested and made sounds like a locked up CV joint but it went. It did act kind of like a locked up CV joint but since the differential didn't make the other wheel spin maybe its 2 locked up CVs? That seems unlikely. Anyway we dragged it to my VW Guru who will have a look at it next week. I got it for about triple the standard Kaleb price at which point I think even if the car is junk I'll still come out okay... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI
Should last at least a few more years? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 24, 2015 9:11:50 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't think so, 150,000 miles give or take a bit. -Curt From: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf TDI Sounds like a money pit. Mileage? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
The debate now is focussed on Congressional legislation to prohibit States from requiring food producers to divulge the presence of GMOs on labels. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What's wrong with GMO food? Don't make me lump you in with the Global Warming religion nut cases worshipping Gaia... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 25, 2015 12:27:11 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is the adulterated fats that kill. Natural fats, as nature intended are necessary for life, but not available in prepared foods. Raw, not GMO foods have fats that are unadulterated. almonds, Macadamia nuts, black walnuts, hickory nuts are all good sources, as are organically grown animals who are not fed GMO grain. old varieties of peanuts grown organically should be good also. I'm guessing Monsanto/dupont etc. manufactures most peanuts grown as a crop, so they won't be good. All we need to exist is Omega 6 fatty acids and Omega 3 fatty acids. The body manufactures every thing else from these two basics. Angie got a bottle of it, awful stuff... The fats are what makes peanut butter good and the fats are probably good for you. Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
Local farm has a small grocery store with mostly local products, including raw milk. Priced at about 2x homogenized milk, they couldn't keep it in stock, kept increasing the price until they found the market price, which is like $8 a half gallon. I grew up on raw milk, straight from the nearest neighbors dairy farm. Store milk is like water to me, nothing in it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 25, 2015 12:47:35 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real milk is so much better for you and for ice cream. It is hard to find real milk. In this state it is illegal. Same for Maple surp THAT is real food. Monsanto does not have GMO maple trees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cool off this summer.
Not so Hawaiian Shave ice http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/07/22/chill-out-with-a-tasty-shaved-ice-treat-from-mercede-benzs-ice-monster-tie-in-shop/ Maybe Andrew can make this with his new sumbeam blender ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Blendtec recipes, anyone?
What's wrong with GMO food? Don't make me lump you in with the Global Warming religion nut cases worshipping Gaia... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 25, 2015 12:27:11 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is the adulterated fats that kill. Natural fats, as nature intended are necessary for life, but not available in prepared foods. Raw, not GMO foods have fats that are unadulterated. almonds, Macadamia nuts, black walnuts, hickory nuts are all good sources, as are organically grown animals who are not fed GMO grain. old varieties of peanuts grown organically should be good also. I'm guessing Monsanto/dupont etc. manufactures most peanuts grown as a crop, so they won't be good. All we need to exist is Omega 6 fatty acids and Omega 3 fatty acids. The body manufactures every thing else from these two basics. Angie got a bottle of it, awful stuff... The fats are what makes peanut butter good and the fats are probably good for you. Science is finally starting to finally get its collective head around how bad for us a low fat diet is... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
