Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of
getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

-
Max
Charleston SC


Yes.  A spider man web slinger.  I've also thought this to be the 
perfect solution.


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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
At short range this is a pretty good solution: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcwas2pPFk
-Curt
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Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard
   
I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of
getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

-
Max
Charleston SC

Yes.  A spider man web slinger.  I've also thought this to be the 
perfect solution.



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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Tater gun stuffed with a shrimp throw net, you catch it you keep it.

I just got a 1600 mW solid state laser from China that runs off 12V (I 
think, I haven't really looked at it yet) to put on a little burning 
machine, I got to thinking that mounting that sucker on a quadcopter 
with some targeting software and FPV goggles would be just the thing 
when them crackas show up wanting their machine back.   Say hello to my 
leetle fren  CAUTION:  Do Not Look at Laser with Remaining Eye


Or even better than the spud gun but then the device would be disabled 
if the brains got burned through.


--R



On 7/30/15 9:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, 
jail
time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure 
hassle of

getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

-
Max
Charleston SC


Yes.  A spider man web slinger.  I've also thought this to be the 
perfect solution.


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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



This indicates two things.

1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of 
gallons of diesel to Europe,


2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less 
OTR trucks = less diesel consumption,


Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.

Rick
You heard it here first.



But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is 
so wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of 
propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an 
executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!


gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then 
gotta buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh 
fer hash, then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we 
can pay rent on the section 8 house.  ...


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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

2015-07-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of
getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 According to what I've read, there is a city prohibition, but he was
 charged
 under a different state law.  Interesting to see how this plays out.

 Greg


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[MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My local River Road Valero is at the lowest ever - $2.79/gal.  This means
the Rockville Gulf is probably at $2.50

US, East Coast ULSD stocks set record highs: EIA data

Houston (Platts)--29Jul2015/403 pm EDT/2003 GMT

US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.

Total US stocks of ULSD rose about 2 million barrels in the week that ended
Friday to 123.91 million barrels, the highest level since EIA began
collecting the data in 2004.

US stocks have risen to a record each of the last four weeks, with most of
the stock builds concentrated in the East Coast.

East Coast stocks of ULSD rose 2.32 million barrels to 41.02 million
barrels, the highest ever. Stock builds in the East Coast also have set
records in each of the last five weeks.
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I had a customer in Louisiana who was a big game hunter and had bagged the 
big three, whatever that was. I know one of them was a big frickin' ram of 
some sort.

He had this huge grizzly bear that looked like the polar bear that was in the 
Adams Family, standing on its hind legs with its front legs straight up. Darned 
thing must have been 12 feet tall or more.

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.

Not sure I understand the attraction of having dead animal heads hanging on my 
walls. I likened it to driving a Corvette or a Hummer (pen*s envy?)

Dan 



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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ...and true
 
 Vegetarian logic on Facilbuch today: People who aren't vegetarians aren't 
 allowed to sympathize with the killing of a lion, just like people who aren't 
 black aren't allowed to sympathize with the killing of blacks. Meanwhile 
 vegetarian blowhards completely disregard the billions of mice, snakes, 
 birds, rabbits, squirrels, possums and trillions of worms, arthropods and 
 microbes killed or displaced by sprayers and harvesters to make their 
 sanctimonious diets possible. Got it. And by the way, Cecil the lion? Not a 
 vegetarian.
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Re: [MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My ownership year totals (12) are less impressive than their combined
mileage - 645,000 - or to the moon and back, and nearly there again

Andrew
1983 300TD  owned since 2008  349,000 mi.
1985 300TD  owned since 2010   296,000

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   Andrew wrote:


  Average car age hits record high of 11.5 years


   The average length of ownership for a new vehicle is now
  almost 6.5 years, and five years for a used vehicle.


 Hmm.  I guess I own mine longer than average.  I don't think
 anyone who knows me would be surprised.

   Cars and trucks also now have the same average age,


 I wonder what definition of truck the author is using.
 Probably means pickup - but who knows.

   people held on to their cars during the recession.


 Yeah!  That's why I didn't buy a new S class!   That dang
 recession!  Hah!



 wah Yes!  Is there any other kinda truck other than a peecup?  Is a
 superoo brat a peecup?

 Yes, I's assume they mean pickups, as medium trucks tend to live more than
 11.5 years.  Heavy trucks?  Maybe not in this country or yurp. too many
 changing regulations to keep heavy trucks long.

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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
There was an article in the WSJ a coupla days ago about gasoline and 
diesel inventories, and diesel is way high due to it being a byproduct 
of gasoline refining, and gasoline is being refined at a high rate, 
apparently due to some refineries having recently come on line in the 
Middle East.  (It wasn't clear where all the gasoline was going, or if 
it was going, or the stuff was just being refined to keep up with the 
petroleum that is being pumped) The stuff seems to be building up 
everywhere and coupled with high inventories and weak demand prices are 
expected to remain quite low for some time. And now the Iranium supplies 
will be hitting the world market so expect further price declines.


--R



On 7/30/15 9:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My local River Road Valero is at the lowest ever - $2.79/gal.  This means
the Rockville Gulf is probably at $2.50

US, East Coast ULSD stocks set record highs: EIA data

Houston (Platts)--29Jul2015/403 pm EDT/2003 GMT

US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.

Total US stocks of ULSD rose about 2 million barrels in the week that ended
Friday to 123.91 million barrels, the highest level since EIA began
collecting the data in 2004.

US stocks have risen to a record each of the last four weeks, with most of
the stock builds concentrated in the East Coast.

East Coast stocks of ULSD rose 2.32 million barrels to 41.02 million
barrels, the highest ever. Stock builds in the East Coast also have set
records in each of the last five weeks.
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andrew writes:
 
 US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
 Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
 Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.

This indicates two things. 

1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons of 
diesel to Europe,

2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR trucks = 
less diesel consumption,

Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.

Rick
You heard it here first.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Are you one of those who insisted that $5 a gallon gas was an inevitability 
by summer? Wish I remember who all told me that one. I love calling out people 
when they were the were so sure they used words like inevitable.
-CurtOptimism is easier.
  From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting
   
Andrew writes:
 
 US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
 Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
 Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.

This indicates two things. 

1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons of 
diesel to Europe,

2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR trucks = 
less diesel consumption,

Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yep

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Andrew writes:
 
 US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
 Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
 Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.
 
 This indicates two things. 
 
 1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons of 
 diesel to Europe,
 
 2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR trucks 
 = less diesel consumption,
 
 Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
 Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.
 
 Rick
 You heard it here first.
 
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[MBZ] This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

...and true

Vegetarian logic on Facilbuch today: People who aren't vegetarians 
aren't allowed to sympathize with the killing of a lion, just like 
people who aren't black aren't allowed to sympathize with the killing 
of blacks. Meanwhile vegetarian blowhards completely disregard the 
billions of mice, snakes, birds, rabbits, squirrels, possums and 
trillions of worms, arthropods and microbes killed or displaced by 
sprayers and harvesters to make their sanctimonious diets possible. 
Got it. And by the way, Cecil the lion? Not a vegetarian.

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.

Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle

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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I do that with my guide named Charon
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and 
 track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At 
 least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know
the family.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in
 my back yard digging for bugs, I presume.

 No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning, so
 plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.

 I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep
 him out.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the
 run
  of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
  decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her
 but
  it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
  returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
  (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I do that with my guide named Charon
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
  He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
 and
  track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was
 told. At
  least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I do that with my guide named Charon

--R



On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Boy everybody seems to want to relate this to the guy's wedding tackle. I 
wonder sometimes if that has to do with jealousy from non-hunters that feel 
their manhood is impinged upon. Cross-fit doesn't seem to match killing.
I don't see hunting for any reason other than eating but I'm willing to allow 
that there are people that do. There are lots of things in this world that I'm 
not into and I don't see where its my place to tell anybody what they can't 
do...
-Curt
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:11 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   
I had a customer in Louisiana who was a big game hunter and had bagged the 
big three, whatever that was. I know one of them was a big frickin' ram of 
some sort.

He had this huge grizzly bear that looked like the polar bear that was in the 
Adams Family, standing on its hind legs with its front legs straight up. Darned 
thing must have been 12 feet tall or more.

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.

Not sure I understand the attraction of having dead animal heads hanging on my 
walls. I likened it to driving a Corvette or a Hummer (pen*s envy?)

Dan 



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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ...and true
 
 Vegetarian logic on Facilbuch today: People who aren't vegetarians aren't 
 allowed to sympathize with the killing of a lion, just like people who aren't 
 black aren't allowed to sympathize with the killing of blacks. Meanwhile 
 vegetarian blowhards completely disregard the billions of mice, snakes, 
 birds, rabbits, squirrels, possums and trillions of worms, arthropods and 
 microbes killed or displaced by sprayers and harvesters to make their 
 sanctimonious diets possible. Got it. And by the way, Cecil the lion? Not a 
 vegetarian.
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in my 
back yard digging for bugs, I presume.

No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning, so 
plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.

I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep him 
out.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the run
 of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
 decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her but
 it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
 returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
 (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
 
 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I do that with my guide named Charon
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
 He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and
 track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At
 least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Dan writes:

 I likened it to driving a Corvette or a Hummer (pen*s envy?)

No pens envy here. I use these. Quite functional and practical. :)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055KSO3A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=1UQVWT4WMXBO4coliid=IY7OSOQ9W5M8Z
‎
Rick 
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm not judging, I just don't understand the thrill of killing something unless 
I need it for food, that's all.  I was just opining that for some it might be a 
power or control thing.

Dan who has driven a Corvette but only a few times

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Boy everybody seems to want to relate this to the guy's wedding tackle. I 
 wonder sometimes if that has to do with jealousy from non-hunters that feel 
 their manhood is impinged upon. Cross-fit doesn't seem to match killing.
 I don't see hunting for any reason other than eating but I'm willing to allow 
 that there are people that do. There are lots of things in this world that 
 I'm not into and I don't see where its my place to tell anybody what they 
 can't do...
 -Curt
  

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Cheap Crosman pellet gun is your answer.  Quiet (except when I lube the 
barrel then you get a supersonic crack as the pellet exits the barrel) 
and effective once tuned a bit.  I have cleaned out the squirrel 
infestation in the immediate area, at least until my wife refills the 
squirrel feeders, and then I will have more to deal with as the ones 
with no knowledge of the Crosman re-infestate the area.


--R



On 7/30/15 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have 
the run of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The 
bunny is decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to 
deter him/her but it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have 
seen the gopher returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a 
day of hunting (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes 
and peppers.


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I do that with my guide named Charon

--R



On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left
to hunt and track the animals for several days. Rarely used a
guide, so I was told. At least he was sporting about it.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wikipedia says both...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)

-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:19 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   
Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.

Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I do that with my guide named Charon
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and 
 track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At 
 least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What no one has mentioned is that diesel and fuel oil comprise demand for
the same product.  In summer there is no demand to heat homes so diesel
pirces MUST fall, in addition to everything else.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 This indicates two things.

 1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons of
 diesel to Europe,

 2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR
 trucks = less diesel consumption,

 Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
 Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.

 Rick
 You heard it here first.


 But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is so
 wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of
 propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an
 executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!

 gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then gotta
 buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh fer hash,
 then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we can pay rent on
 the section 8 house.  ...

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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If I were an oil producer right now I would be on a steady diet of Sonesta.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Also the price of oil has been way down for a long time. What is the time
 horizon for that cheap oil to actually get to refineries? 6 mos?
 A middle east refinery coming on line would probably see Europe getting
 some of its oil from there since it'd be closer and easier to ship across
 the Med than the Atlantic...
 -Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

 What no one has mentioned is that diesel and fuel oil comprise demand for
 the same product.  In summer there is no demand to heat homes so diesel
 pirces MUST fall, in addition to everything else.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 
 
  This indicates two things.
 
  1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons
 of
  diesel to Europe,
 
  2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR
  trucks = less diesel consumption,
 
  Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
  Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.
 
  Rick
  You heard it here first.
 
 
  But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is so
  wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of
  propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an
  executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!
 
  gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then
 gotta
  buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh fer hash,
  then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we can pay rent
 on
  the section 8 house.  ...
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Ugh, armadillos small bad, worse than possums. They smell dead even when 
they're alive.
Whatever you do to keep him out will have to be buried, he'll did under it 
otherwise.
I've been trapping chipmunks, up to 5 so far plus one mouse that was in the 
wrong place at the wrong time. The chippies seem to like pecans the best for 
bait although today I'm experimenting with almonds.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   
Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know
the family.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in
 my back yard digging for bugs, I presume.

 No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning, so
 plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.

 I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep
 him out.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the
 run
  of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
  decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her
 but
  it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
  returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
  (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I do that with my guide named Charon
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
  He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
 and
  track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was
 told. At
  least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I want a drone capable of lifting a 156 pound payload.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Tater gun stuffed with a shrimp throw net, you catch it you keep it.

 I just got a 1600 mW solid state laser from China that runs off 12V (I
 think, I haven't really looked at it yet) to put on a little burning
 machine, I got to thinking that mounting that sucker on a quadcopter with
 some targeting software and FPV goggles would be just the thing when them
 crackas show up wanting their machine back.   Say hello to my leetle
 fren  CAUTION:  Do Not Look at Laser with Remaining Eye

 Or even better than the spud gun but then the device would be disabled if
 the brains got burned through.

 --R




 On 7/30/15 9:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
 down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
 prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
 time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of
 getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC


 Yes.  A spider man web slinger.  I've also thought this to be the perfect
 solution.

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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Also the price of oil has been way down for a long time. What is the time 
horizon for that cheap oil to actually get to refineries? 6 mos?
A middle east refinery coming on line would probably see Europe getting some of 
its oil from there since it'd be closer and easier to ship across the Med than 
the Atlantic...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting
   
What no one has mentioned is that diesel and fuel oil comprise demand for
the same product.  In summer there is no demand to heat homes so diesel
pirces MUST fall, in addition to everything else.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 This indicates two things.

 1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons of
 diesel to Europe,

 2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR
 trucks = less diesel consumption,

 Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
 Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.

 Rick
 You heard it here first.


 But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is so
 wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of
 propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an
 executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!

 gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then gotta
 buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh fer hash,
 then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we can pay rent on
 the section 8 house.  ...

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the run
of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her but
it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
(what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I do that with my guide named Charon

 --R



 On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and
 track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At
 least he was sporting about it.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Melted any wires or set any fires, yet?   ;)

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse



I solve all such electrical issues by installing BIGGER fuses.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:


On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
 E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
 ICE COLD again.

ATTABOY, Wilton!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Kay and Steele sketch spoofing American values

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I knew a guy about 20 years ago who was going to get some surplus RPVs 
from A Government Agency and set up cell phone repeaters on them to 
provide service in Africa and other infrastructure-challenged areas.  
These things could stay up a week or two, orbiting at 70k ft+, above 
most of the weather (you can figure out what their mission was for The 
Government Agency).  Not sure whatever became of it, but he had run the 
numbers and it looked pretty good.


--R

On 7/30/15 3:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Speaking of drones:


MENLO PARK, California (AP) — Facebook says it will begin test flights
later this year of a solar-powered drone with the wingspan of a Boeing 737,
the next stage of its campaign to deliver Internet service to remote parts
of the world.

Engineers at the giant social network say they've built a drone with a
140-foot wingspan that weighs less than 1,000 pounds. It will use lasers to
send Internet signals to stations on the ground.

The project is part of a broader effort by Facebook that also contemplates
using satellites and other high-tech gear to deliver Internet connectivity
to hundreds of millions of people living in regions too remote for
conventional service.

Facebook rival Google is experimenting with high-altitude balloons and
satellites in a program that has similar goals.




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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Interesting that you mention that, he got those to correct a vision 
problem he has had since a child when he got hit in the head with a 
ball or rock or something, and I think some surgery to correct it in 
the last coupla years and hence the spectacles to assist with the 
problem.  The Democrats/Progressives have had a lot of fun with it, 
and I guess now the Trumpster.  Fools all.


So you like making fun of people's disabilities, and love those who 
do?  How does that go over in the workplace?  Hey, Four-eyes, how ya 
doin?  hahahaha  Hey, Gimp, drag yourself over here!  That is so 
funny!!!


--R (whose interest in the general Republocrat clown show is totally 
minimal at this point)


The liberal/progressive/social (ist)/democratic/communist/marxist 
people care so much about protecting the protected classes!  They are 
the only ones (in their eyes) who stand up for the (fill in the 
blank) people...


you can;t tell it like it is, because you miiight offend thumbody!

But their rules don't apply to them.

We used to have a word for that!

HIPOCRISY



The word and the definition still stand, however I'd add another 
definition:  the actions of democrats and the establishment 
republican party members.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Whatever became of those nice Wilton-ians driving the R class Mercedes whom
I met up with in D.C to consummate the grille hand-off?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:09 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Cost nearly a thou, but it certainly feels better.  'Still R-12.  One can
 left; may hafta get some more.

 Wilton

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 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:22 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse



  On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
 E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
 ICE COLD again.


 ATTABOY, Wilton!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Interesting that you mention that, he got those to correct a vision 
problem he has had since a child when he got hit in the head with a ball 
or rock or something, and I think some surgery to correct it in the last 
coupla years and hence the spectacles to assist with the problem.  The 
Democrats/Progressives have had a lot of fun with it, and I guess now 
the Trumpster.  Fools all.


So you like making fun of people's disabilities, and love those who do?  
How does that go over in the workplace?  Hey, Four-eyes, how ya doin?  
hahahaha  Hey, Gimp, drag yourself over here!  That is so funny!!!


--R (whose interest in the general Republocrat clown show is totally 
minimal at this point)




On 7/30/15 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I love Trump's assessment of Rick Perry's glasses - wearing them to make
him look smart.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andy sez:  I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate

next week,
perhaps the second as well


Good idea, so long as the d debates are held where each candidate stands
on a hill of fireants.  That would make it entertaining to watch.   However
it could be argued that Bernie IS the hills of fireants to the other
candidates   The ONLY one who has the guts to speak what he believes.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
HOLY SNOT!
My VW guy says just under $1500 to put a used trans into my Golf along with a 
new clutch and flywheel. I didn't think that was so bad, labor is only $450.
I'm going to have him do a timing belt too, that'll probably run around $800 
which will bring my total cost just up to the blue book value of a gasser...
-Curt

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Cost nearly a thou, but it certainly feels better.  'Still R-12.  One can 
left; may hafta get some more.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse


 On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
 E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
 ICE COLD again.

 ATTABOY, Wilton!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Trump would call you a Poopyhead nad disseminate your SSN for accusing The
Donald of being insensitive.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Interesting that you mention that, he got those to correct a vision
 problem he has had since a child when he got hit in the head with a ball or
 rock or something, and I think some surgery to correct it in the last
 coupla years and hence the spectacles to assist with the problem.  The
 Democrats/Progressives have had a lot of fun with it, and I guess now the
 Trumpster.  Fools all.

 So you like making fun of people's disabilities, and love those who do?
 How does that go over in the workplace?  Hey, Four-eyes, how ya doin?
 hahahaha  Hey, Gimp, drag yourself over here!  That is so funny!!!

 --R (whose interest in the general Republocrat clown show is totally
 minimal at this point)



 On 7/30/15 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 I love Trump's assessment of Rick Perry's glasses - wearing them to make
 him look smart.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Andy sez:  I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate

 next week,
 perhaps the second as well

  Good idea, so long as the d debates are held where each candidate
 stands
 on a hill of fireants.  That would make it entertaining to watch.
  However
 it could be argued that Bernie IS the hills of fireants to the other
 candidates   The ONLY one who has the guts to speak what he believes.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Of course I jest...  except that I did uprate the blower motor fuse in my
first 300TD out of sheeer frustration - from 15A to 25A.  The higher amp
fuse never blew after that and I never melted any (important) wires
either.  ;).

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 3:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 'Melted any wires or set any fires, yet?   ;)

 Wilton

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 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse


  I solve all such electrical issues by installing BIGGER fuses.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
  E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
  ICE COLD again.

 ATTABOY, Wilton!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Cost nearly a thou, but it certainly feels better.  'Still R-12.  One can 
left; may hafta get some more.


Wilton

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Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
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Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse



On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
ICE COLD again.


ATTABOY, Wilton!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Kay and Steele sketch spoofing American values

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I thought the video had amazing prodution values for a spoof.  Wonder if
those were real (paying) sponsors...

Speaking of drones:


MENLO PARK, California (AP) — Facebook says it will begin test flights
later this year of a solar-powered drone with the wingspan of a Boeing 737,
the next stage of its campaign to deliver Internet service to remote parts
of the world.

Engineers at the giant social network say they've built a drone with a
140-foot wingspan that weighs less than 1,000 pounds. It will use lasers to
send Internet signals to stations on the ground.

The project is part of a broader effort by Facebook that also contemplates
using satellites and other high-tech gear to deliver Internet connectivity
to hundreds of millions of people living in regions too remote for
conventional service.

Facebook rival Google is experimenting with high-altitude balloons and
satellites in a program that has similar goals.



On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What if teachers were valued like pro football players?


 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406831/-What-if-we-were-as-crazy-for-teaching-as-we-are-for-sports-Key-Peele-destroy-with-this-sketch?detail=email



 Great spoof.  Thanks for sending that Andrew.

 This highlights the reasons why i don't support Pro sports in any way, and
 have extremely limited support for HS or Kolledge sports.

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Chippies are dammed hard to get with the pellet gun which is why I've been 
trapping them. If my problem was squirrels or groundhogs I'd be shooting them. 
Strangely although we have a bunch of squirrels they stay out of the garden...
-Curt
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 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   


Why you wanna have a petting zoo?
I'm using rat traps on the chippies. Your humane traps just mean 
you transport the critters to somewhere else that probably already 
has critters. Those critters will defend their territory and 
somebody dies. Either from injuries sustained in the fight or 
starvation. So all you're doing is subbing out your killing to 
somebody else. 
A real man kills when he must. In our case the chippies are ruining 
our concrete front steps and tunneling under the supports for the 
neighbor's deck, plus there are holes everywhere. They need to go.
-Curt

Good idea.  I've been feedin em rat poison.  works well in winter and 
spring, but not when they can invade the garden.  Need a good pellet 
gun for them and hasenpfeffer.


  
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They'll starve or kill each other. You're doing them a favor with a snap trap, 
the killing is quick...
-Curt

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 We have parkland where they can roam free, assuming I can catch them..  Is 
Have a Heart the only brand?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Why you wanna have a petting zoo?
I'm using rat traps on the chippies. Your humane traps just mean you 
transport the critters to somewhere else that probably already has critters. 
Those critters will defend their territory and somebody dies. Either from 
injuries sustained in the fight or starvation. So all you're doing is subbing 
out your killing to somebody else. A real man kills when he must. In our case 
the chippies are ruining our concrete front steps and tunneling under the 
supports for the neighbor's deck, plus there are holes everywhere. They need to 
go.
-Curt


Good idea.  I've been feedin em rat poison.  works well in winter and spring, 
but not when they can invade the garden.  Need a good pellet gun for them and 
hasenpfeffer.

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I read that armadillos are spreading leprosy in FL . . .

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know
 the family.

 --


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Why you wanna have a petting zoo?
I'm using rat traps on the chippies. Your humane traps just mean you 
transport the critters to somewhere else that probably already has critters. 
Those critters will defend their territory and somebody dies. Either from 
injuries sustained in the fight or starvation. So all you're doing is subbing 
out your killing to somebody else. 
A real man kills when he must. In our case the chippies are ruining our 
concrete front steps and tunneling under the supports for the neighbor's deck, 
plus there are holes everywhere. They need to go.
-Curt

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 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   
Curt - any recommendations for a humane trap for 1) chipmunks and petite 
bunnies, and 2) jumbo groundhog?


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Ugh, armadillos small bad, worse than possums. They smell dead even when 
they're alive.
Whatever you do to keep him out will have to be buried, he'll did under it 
otherwise.
I've been trapping chipmunks, up to 5 so far plus one mouse that was in the 
wrong place at the wrong time. The chippies seem to like pecans the best for 
bait although today I'm experimenting with almonds.
-Curt
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Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know
the family.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in
 my back yard digging for bugs, I presume.

 No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning, so
 plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.

 I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep
 him out.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the
 run
  of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
  decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her
 but
  it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
  returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
  (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I do that with my guide named Charon
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
  He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
 and
  track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was
 told. At
  least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes




Trump will have one in each pocket when he debates Hillary... no worries.
;))
[If she doesn't drop out, and if she get nominated to run, and if she isn't
under indictment.]

Worried yet Andrew? Looks like Obama will try to run for a third term,
despite law against it.. Imagine that.. A Constitutional Scholar  it
seems would know that.


Butcha gotta know the terminology.  The deviant is silent.  As in a 
[Deviant] constitutional scholar meaning one who studies the 
Constitution with intent to undermine and nullify it.


Deviant was one of the first cykobabble terms i learned, and the only 
thing I remember from the cykology class;  other than that those who 
study cykology do so because they are truly crazy (or cyko).


Btw, I predicted in 2008 that the annointed one will continue to 
follow corp. Schieklgruber's methodology and continue to be 
re-elected for life, after burning and disbanding the reichstag. 
After that,  he will become more like pasha in the RR special train 
in Dr. Zhivago.  par ici di i all who dare to oppose.   (lat tino)


The speech the other night was the first public insight (that I am 
aware of) into the twisted mind that reveals the intent.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Andy sez:  I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R 
debate next week,

perhaps the second as well


Good idea, so long as the d debates are held where each candidate 
stands on a hill of fireants.  That would make it entertaining to 
watch.   However it could be argued that Bernie IS the hills of 
fireants to the other candidates   The ONLY one who has the guts to 
speak what he believes.


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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at 
D  E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; 
BLOWING ICE COLD again.


Wilton


Waytago!

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
 E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
 ICE COLD again.

ATTABOY, Wilton!


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Kay and Steele sketch spoofing American values

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What if teachers were valued like pro football players?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406831/-What-if-we-were-as-crazy-for-teaching-as-we-are-for-sports-Key-Peele-destroy-with-this-sketch?detail=email
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why enjoy anything that has been accomplished under Obama?  You just KNOW
it can't last long.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Couple of points:

 Crude supply is now in oversupply. The Shale Oil beds in USA are producing
 at record rates. So much, that purchase of Saudi Crude is now to record
 lows. Saudis have their man dresses in a twist because sales are down so
 much and to counter, they have upped production and sales of OPEC crude.
 Price per barrel is at a record low, presently.

 The USA Dollar against other world currency, has gained slightly, thus has
 more buying power, as the World Reserve Currency [presently].

 BRIC has not worked to date, although it's still pressing on to become the
 world reserve currency.
 At the present moment.. all the BRIC countries are experiencing financial
 collapse on a scale never imagined... China for example just lost record
 value on it's stock market. Russia is broke, and oil sales revenues are in
 the toilet due to the crash of per barrel prices. etc..

 Relax, it's temporary.. soon we in America will feel the induced pain, as
 planned.
 The trickle up poverty plan of our exalted self anointed leader is set to
 finally work.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  If I were an oil producer right now I would be on a steady diet of
 Sonesta.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Also the price of oil has been way down for a long time. What is the
 time
   horizon for that cheap oil to actually get to refineries? 6 mos?
   A middle east refinery coming on line would probably see Europe getting
   some of its oil from there since it'd be closer and easier to ship
 across
   the Med than the Atlantic...
   -Curt
  
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting
  
   What no one has mentioned is that diesel and fuel oil comprise demand
 for
   the same product.  In summer there is no demand to heat homes so diesel
   pirces MUST fall, in addition to everything else.
  
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   
   
This indicates two things.
   
1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of
 gallons
   of
diesel to Europe,
   
2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less
 OTR
trucks = less diesel consumption,
   
Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.
   
Rick
You heard it here first.
   
   
But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is
  so
wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of
propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an
executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!
   
gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then
   gotta
buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh fer
  hash,
then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we can pay
 rent
   on
the section 8 house.  ...
   
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I solve all such electrical issues by installing BIGGER fuses.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:03:35 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D 
  E Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING
  ICE COLD again.

 ATTABOY, Wilton!


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love Trump's assessment of Rick Perry's glasses - wearing them to make
him look smart.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andy sez:  I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate
 next week,
 perhaps the second as well


 Good idea, so long as the d debates are held where each candidate stands
 on a hill of fireants.  That would make it entertaining to watch.   However
 it could be argued that Bernie IS the hills of fireants to the other
 candidates   The ONLY one who has the guts to speak what he believes.


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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hmm. Might have to look at that. Only problem I see is that armadillos carry 
leoprosy.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know 
 the family.
 
 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in my 
 back yard digging for bugs, I presume.
 
 No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning, so 
 plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.
 
 I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep him 
 out.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the run
  of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
  decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her but
  it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
  returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
  (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I do that with my guide named Charon
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
  He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and
  track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. 
  At
  least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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[MBZ] Blown fuse

2015-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
AC compressor was blowing fuse #7 in my '87 300D.  Indie MB tech at D  E 
Services in Raleigh R  R compressor and aux fan resistor; BLOWING ICE COLD 
again.

Wilton
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Curt - any recommendations for a humane trap for 1) chipmunks and petite
bunnies, and 2) jumbo groundhog?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Ugh, armadillos small bad, worse than possums. They smell dead even when
 they're alive.
 Whatever you do to keep him out will have to be buried, he'll did under it
 otherwise.
 I've been trapping chipmunks, up to 5 so far plus one mouse that was in
 the wrong place at the wrong time. The chippies seem to like pecans the
 best for bait although today I'm experimenting with almonds.
 -Curt
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 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

 Or pacify him:  Capture and bring him into the house so he can get to know
 the family.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of divots in
  my back yard digging for bugs, I presume.
 
  No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the morning,
 so
  plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.
 
  I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to keep
  him out.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have the
  run
   of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The bunny is
   decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to deter him/her
  but
   it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have seen the gopher
   returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a day of hunting
   (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes and peppers.
  
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   I do that with my guide named Charon
  
   --R
  
  
  
   On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
  
   He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
  and
   track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was
  told. At
   least he was sporting about it.
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Why you wanna have a petting zoo?
I'm using rat traps on the chippies. Your humane traps just mean 
you transport the critters to somewhere else that probably already 
has critters. Those critters will defend their territory and 
somebody dies. Either from injuries sustained in the fight or 
starvation. So all you're doing is subbing out your killing to 
somebody else. 
A real man kills when he must. In our case the chippies are ruining 
our concrete front steps and tunneling under the supports for the 
neighbor's deck, plus there are holes everywhere. They need to go.

-Curt


Good idea.  I've been feedin em rat poison.  works well in winter and 
spring, but not when they can invade the garden.  Need a good pellet 
gun for them and hasenpfeffer.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 We have parkland where they can roam free, assuming I can catch them..  Is
Have a Heart the only brand?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Why you wanna have a petting zoo?
 I'm using rat traps on the chippies. Your humane traps just mean you
 transport the critters to somewhere else that probably already has
 critters. Those critters will defend their territory and somebody dies.
 Either from injuries sustained in the fight or starvation. So all you're
 doing is subbing out your killing to somebody else. A real man kills when
 he must. In our case the chippies are ruining our concrete front steps and
 tunneling under the supports for the neighbor's deck, plus there are holes
 everywhere. They need to go.
 -Curt


 Good idea.  I've been feedin em rat poison.  works well in winter and
 spring, but not when they can invade the garden.  Need a good pellet gun
 for them and hasenpfeffer.

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I have a Crossman 10 pump which works pretty good. It'll put down a squirrel 
but not a groundhog though when we had one last summer it rang is bell hard 
enough he never came back.I've got a single pump but its a really cheap Chinese 
thing, looks a bit like an AK47.
One of these days I'll invest in a nice single pump that approaches the speed 
of sound...
-Curt


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Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
   
Cheap Crosman pellet gun is your answer.  Quiet (except when I lube the 
barrel then you get a supersonic crack as the pellet exits the barrel) 
and effective once tuned a bit.  I have cleaned out the squirrel 
infestation in the immediate area, at least until my wife refills the 
squirrel feeders, and then I will have more to deal with as the ones 
with no knowledge of the Crosman re-infestate the area.

--R



On 7/30/15 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have 
 the run of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The 
 bunny is decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to 
 deter him/her but it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have 
 seen the gopher returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a 
 day of hunting (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes 
 and peppers.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



    I do that with my guide named Charon

    --R



    On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

        He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left
        to hunt and track the animals for several days. Rarely used a
        guide, so I was told. At least he was sporting about it.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Spray your yard with insecticide. d D T IF you can find it... 
mehiho...  otherwise Diazanon is what the extension folks recommend. 
Keep Diazanon OFF pets/animals.  The prior suggestion can be sprayed 
on animals, but the latter will kill animals that lick like 
dogs/cats.  Diazanon is the weapon of choice at the goof courses.


No bugs, no 'dillo

I'd look at the 'dillo as doing you a favor.  You don't have to 
aerate your lawn.



And I have an armadillo that is creating literally hundreds of 
divots in my back yard digging for bugs, I presume.


No armadillo traps or poison. He leaves before I get up in the 
morning, so plugging him with the pellet pistol isn't an option.


I'm thinking about a little chicken wire or hardware cloth fence to 
keep him out.


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Hmm. Might have to look at that. Only problem I see is that 
armadillos carry leoprosy.


Dan


You could start your own leper colony.  Its one way to keep the 
neighbors away.  In 100 years, it can be a tourist attraction.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Zackly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny


I had a customer in Louisiana who was a big game hunter and had bagged 
the big three, whatever that was. I know one of them was a big frickin' 
ram of some sort.


He had this huge grizzly bear that looked like the polar bear that was in 
the Adams Family, standing on its hind legs with its front legs straight 
up. Darned thing must have been 12 feet tall or more.


He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and 
track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At 
least he was sporting about it.


Not sure I understand the attraction of having dead animal heads hanging 
on my walls. I likened it to driving a Corvette or a Hummer (pen*s envy?)


Dan



Sent from my iPad

On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


...and true

Vegetarian logic on Facilbuch today: People who aren't vegetarians aren't 
allowed to sympathize with the killing of a lion, just like people who 
aren't black aren't allowed to sympathize with the killing of blacks. 
Meanwhile vegetarian blowhards completely disregard the billions of mice, 
snakes, birds, rabbits, squirrels, possums and trillions of worms, 
arthropods and microbes killed or displaced by sprayers and harvesters to 
make their sanctimonious diets possible. Got it. And by the way, Cecil 
the lion? Not a vegetarian.

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Mary Edith Reiff hammered that Latin into me, made me read the Virge in 
Latina, and that is where I remember it from.  The Romans and the Greeks 
often had different views on godly and underworldly matters, and various 
other subjects, and it continues even now.


--R (got my coins ready to put in my eyes)



On 7/30/15 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Wikipedia says both...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)

-Curt
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
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  Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.


Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

I do that with my guide named Charon

--R




On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate next week,
perhaps the second as well

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Mary Edith Reiff hammered that Latin into me, made me read the Virge in
 Latina, and that is where I remember it from.  The Romans and the Greeks
 often had different views on godly and underworldly matters, and various
 other subjects, and it continues even now.

 --R (got my coins ready to put in my eyes)



 On 7/30/15 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 Wikipedia says both...
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)

 -Curt
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
   Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:19 AM
   Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
 Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.

 Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I do that with my guide named Charon

 --R



  On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
 and track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told.
 At least he was sporting about it.


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Trump will have one in each pocket when he debates Hillary... no worries.
;))
[If she doesn't drop out, and if she get nominated to run, and if she isn't
under indictment.]

Worried yet Andrew? Looks like Obama will try to run for a third term,
despite law against it.. Imagine that.. A Constitutional Scholar  it
seems would know that.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate next week,
 perhaps the second as well

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Mary Edith Reiff hammered that Latin into me, made me read the Virge in
  Latina, and that is where I remember it from.  The Romans and the Greeks
  often had different views on godly and underworldly matters, and various
  other subjects, and it continues even now.
 
  --R (got my coins ready to put in my eyes)
 
 
 
  On 7/30/15 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
  Wikipedia says both...
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)
 
  -Curt
 From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:19 AM
Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
  Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.
 
  Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I do that with my guide named Charon
 
  --R
 
 
 
   On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
  He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt
  and track the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was
 told.
  At least he was sporting about it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

2015-07-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Grant writes
 

 Looks like Obama will try to run for a third term,
 despite law against it.. Imagine that.. A Constitutional Scholar  it
 seems would know that.

Who better to shred the thing?

Helicopter Ben Bernacke was a scholar of the 
Great Depression...

Three guesses as to what is probably coming soon

Rick
Trying to remain optimistic
  
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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

2015-07-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Couple of points:

Crude supply is now in oversupply. The Shale Oil beds in USA are producing
at record rates. So much, that purchase of Saudi Crude is now to record
lows. Saudis have their man dresses in a twist because sales are down so
much and to counter, they have upped production and sales of OPEC crude.
Price per barrel is at a record low, presently.

The USA Dollar against other world currency, has gained slightly, thus has
more buying power, as the World Reserve Currency [presently].

BRIC has not worked to date, although it's still pressing on to become the
world reserve currency.
At the present moment.. all the BRIC countries are experiencing financial
collapse on a scale never imagined... China for example just lost record
value on it's stock market. Russia is broke, and oil sales revenues are in
the toilet due to the crash of per barrel prices. etc..

Relax, it's temporary.. soon we in America will feel the induced pain, as
planned.
The trickle up poverty plan of our exalted self anointed leader is set to
finally work.


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 If I were an oil producer right now I would be on a steady diet of Sonesta.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Also the price of oil has been way down for a long time. What is the time
  horizon for that cheap oil to actually get to refineries? 6 mos?
  A middle east refinery coming on line would probably see Europe getting
  some of its oil from there since it'd be closer and easier to ship across
  the Med than the Atlantic...
  -Curt
 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:02 AM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting
 
  What no one has mentioned is that diesel and fuel oil comprise demand for
  the same product.  In summer there is no demand to heat homes so diesel
  pirces MUST fall, in addition to everything else.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  
  
   This indicates two things.
  
   1. The European economy is slowing down. We export millions of gallons
  of
   diesel to Europe,
  
   2. The US economy is slowing down. Less demand for product = Less OTR
   trucks = less diesel consumption,
  
   Enjoy the low prices, the economy is getting ready to collapse.
   Probably after the Fed raises rates in Sept. or Oct.
  
   Rick
   You heard it here first.
  
  
   But, but, but, our dear leader sez the economy is growing and life is
 so
   wonderful he could easily be re-elected!  His fawning ministers of
   propaganda also say so.  Surely he will dismiss congress and issue an
   executive order to re-elect himself so the good times will continue!
  
   gotta find that bummer-phone so i can call in for unemployment, then
  gotta
   buy some pop with the EBT card to sell on the corner fer cansh fer
 hash,
   then da ol lady gotta open the AFDC check an cash it so we can pay rent
  on
   the section 8 house.  ...
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Kay and Steele sketch spoofing American values

2015-07-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

What if teachers were valued like pro football players?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406831/-What-if-we-were-as-crazy-for-teaching-as-we-are-for-sports-Key-Peele-destroy-with-this-sketch?detail=email



Great spoof.  Thanks for sending that Andrew.

This highlights the reasons why i don't support Pro sports in any 
way, and have extremely limited support for HS or Kolledge sports.


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