[MBZ] My, how things have changed

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I just did a nationwide craikslist search for 240Ds... Its a LOT 
different from the last time I did that several years ago.  Used to 
be lots of 240Ds.  Tonight, only 3 cars listed within the past week. 
And some scrapper in Oregon who is advertising as a local on 
craikslist all over the country.


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[MBZ] This is nice for a 103 powered car

2015-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Price is high though

Mercedes Benz 300 like NEW*
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5156985737.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] 'nother quiet day?

2015-08-04 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curly wrote:
 My 240D sounds wonderful as I drive it.  the slushbox is still weak...

I drove the 240D slushbox / 2-pedal today.  Gotta keep the go-pedal in
or it shifts and bogs the engine at low speed.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Clown out-wits 'em again

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Funny guy!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-turns-cellphone-voicemail-campaign-ad/story?id=32875155

Clearly our ruling class has much to learn from someone who 
actually works for a living.  Hillary! vs Trump would be endlessly 
entertaining, no?

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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


Not for long.  The clown would run circles around her, and turn the 
witch into hot dog emulsion.   She'd go home and pout, then come out 
a month or two later with another campaign launch


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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 04/08/2015 2:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people 
just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this 
is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's 
easier.


Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb 
cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a 
buck or two less than a swap.



Does Costco sell propane down south?
We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

RB


So we are paying about $10-12 more here, primarily for insurance so 
the propane companies can protect themselves from shysters.


It was not that many years ago I could drive 12-15 miles to a small 
town and get a tank filled for $8.  now most of the exchange places 
are $18-20 for a partial tank.


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Lots of places here charging $20 or more too but Costco is very reasonable.
I think I paid something like $36 to exchange a 20# tank out at the lake 
last summer.
This time I took one of my city tanks out and brought the empty exchange 
cylinder home to get it refilled here.
I truly want to switch to natural gas here in the city so that I won't 
run out and won't need to haul the cylinders around quite so often.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2015-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I did, it took most of a day to get everything installed. Each lift I made over 
about half an hour.
This was probably the most straightforward lift I've ever done, we actually 
ended up only lifting the kitchen floor, I couldn't see any difference in the 
walls at all. The house made very little noise while lifting which is something 
to really watch for, especially in a house with plaster lathe walls...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?
   
On 04/08/2015 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


 Oh yeah, I meant to reply to this yesterday...
 The floor had a significant dip in the center, of 1/8 or more. In the 
 basement the central 6x6 that runs down the spine of the house was 
 supported by a 3 or so cedar post that had split at the top and had lost 
 some of its height. Off to one side where the dip was worst was a 2x3 spruce 
 post with a significant bow in it.
 My father in-law had bought a steel post years ago but had never installed 
 it. I brought my 12 ton bottle jack and a 4x4, centered the jack under the 
 6x6 near the cedar post and lifted about 1/2. I took out the cedar post and 
 replaced with the steel post ending up about 1/4 taller than the cedar post 
 had been. Then I moved to the other side of the basement on that same 6x6, 
 lifted 1/4 and put in another steel post. Finally I repositioned near the 
 2x3, lifted to get that out and put in another steel post.
 The floor now bows about 1/32. I might put some leveler on it before we lay 
 the tile but I doubt it, the dip is gentle enough I don't think it will hurt 
 vinyl tiles.
 -Curt
      

I would have thought that this was something that you should have 
cranked up slowly.

RB


  
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
HA!  Best answer yet...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Go spend the winter with FL Fats, isn't he somewhere near Tampa?
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I did read on the internet about one fellow who lost the charge of
hydrocarbon refrigerant in a leak next to the engine air cleaner intake, so
the engine ingested all the gas and ran away, destroying the engine.  I can
see how the engine could overspeed and self destruct when the injection
pump / governor is not controlling the fuel.  IIRC that was a 123 car which
has the AC lines on the same side of the engine as the intake?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Highly pressurized gasoline no less.
 IIRC theres a pound or less of hydrocarbons in the Cathey test
 refrigerant, thats a quart or so of actual fuel, it should flash off pretty
 quick...
 -Curt
   From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

 ‎Curly writes:

 This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not
 thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car.
 
 ‎
 Meh. Most folks drive around with multiple gallons of extremely explosive
 liquid (gasoline) in their autos.

 Rick
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10

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[MBZ] OT - Paris Island

2015-08-04 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I've never thought I was mentally and physically tough enough to make it at 
Paris Island.  I have the greatest respect and admiration for those who have.   

One of my proudest, but most humbling, moments was several years ago at the 
Durham VA Medical Center when a small group of USMC veterans of some of the 
fiercest battles in Vietnam offered me their sincere appreciation for B-52 
raids having saved them from certain annihilation.  There is only a slim 
chance, of course, that I was at the controls during the incidents they cited, 
and the awesome power they witnessed was made possible by Boeing.  I (or 
whoever was in control) sat in reasonable air conditioned comfort 7 or 8 
miles above the battles the marines endured.

Until the discussion with them, I had thought that the work of the BUFFS 
during Arc Light (down South') was little-noticed, little-known and 
unappreciated - made lotsa toothpicks of many acres of jungle growth.   

Wilton  
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Re: [MBZ] ?

2015-08-04 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?



Oh yeah, I meant to reply to this yesterday...
The floor had a significant dip in the center, of 1/8 or more. In the 
basement the central 6x6 that runs down the spine of the house was 
supported by a 3 or so cedar post that had split at the top and had 
lost some of its height. Off to one side where the dip was worst was a 2x3 
spruce post with a significant bow in it.
My father in-law had bought a steel post years ago but had never installed 
it. I brought my 12 ton bottle jack and a 4x4, centered the jack under the 
6x6 near the cedar post and lifted about 1/2. I took out the cedar post 
and replaced with the steel post ending up about 1/4 taller than the 
cedar post had been. Then I moved to the other side of the basement on 
that same 6x6, lifted 1/4 and put in another steel post. Finally I 
repositioned near the 2x3, lifted to get that out and put in another steel 
post.
The floor now bows about 1/32. I might put some leveler on it before we 
lay the tile but I doubt it, the dip is gentle enough I don't think it 
will hurt vinyl tiles.

-Curt
 From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:31:20 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes


mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Home Depot, self-leveling concrete?


Actually, self-leveling underlayment, something the fellow who installed
tile in our house in Los Alamos used.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2015-08-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 04/08/2015 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Oh yeah, I meant to reply to this yesterday...
The floor had a significant dip in the center, of 1/8 or more. In the basement the central 
6x6 that runs down the spine of the house was supported by a 3 or so cedar post 
that had split at the top and had lost some of its height. Off to one side where the dip was worst 
was a 2x3 spruce post with a significant bow in it.
My father in-law had bought a steel post years ago but had never installed it. I brought my 12 
ton bottle jack and a 4x4, centered the jack under the 6x6 near the cedar post and lifted 
about 1/2. I took out the cedar post and replaced with the steel post ending up about 
1/4 taller than the cedar post had been. Then I moved to the other side of the basement 
on that same 6x6, lifted 1/4 and put in another steel post. Finally I repositioned near 
the 2x3, lifted to get that out and put in another steel post.
The floor now bows about 1/32. I might put some leveler on it before we lay 
the tile but I doubt it, the dip is gentle enough I don't think it will hurt vinyl 
tiles.
-Curt
 


I would have thought that this was something that you should have 
cranked up slowly.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Good running Benzes [was: Re: 'nother quiet day?]

2015-08-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:09:28 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 RR door pod is only $16 from CC.  I'd guess the RF is the same.

CC? Credit Card? Cruise Control?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just 
swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a 
reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier.


Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb 
cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck 
or two less than a swap.




Does Costco sell propane down south?
We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is it a real 20# fill? The exchange places generally go between 15 and 17#.
I'm paying $14 at my local True Value for a real 20# fill.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 3:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
   
That's sick.  HD charges more than triple what you pay.  I'll check at the
Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today..

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just
 swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason
 why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier.


 Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb
 cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or
 two less than a swap.


 Does Costco sell propane down south?
 We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

 RB

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Re: [MBZ] Good running Benzes [was: Re: 'nother quiet day?]

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

CC = Classic Center, MomBUSA's concession to us folks  with old cars

$16 from CC beats paying $16 or more on fleabay for one of unknown 
age or heritage.  I have not priced at stealers.




On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:09:28 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 RR door pod is only $16 from CC.  I'd guess the RF is the same.


CC? Credit Card? Cruise Control?

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's sick.  HD charges more than triple what you pay.  I'll check at the
Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today..

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just
 swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason
 why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier.


 Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb
 cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or
 two less than a swap.


 Does Costco sell propane down south?
 We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

 RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Meade wrote:
 
 I did read on the internet about one fellow who lost the
 charge of hydrocarbon refrigerant in a leak next to the
 engine air cleaner intake, so the engine ingested all the
 gas and ran away, destroying the engine.

One more reason for a manual transmission. *smiles*


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Re: [MBZ] Good running Benzes [was: Re: 'nother quiet day?]

2015-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Classic Center?
Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good running Benzes [was: Re: 'nother quiet day?]
   
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:09:28 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 RR door pod is only $16 from CC.  I'd guess the RF is the same.

CC? Credit Card? Cruise Control?




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people 
just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this 
is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's 
easier.


Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb 
cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a 
buck or two less than a swap.



Does Costco sell propane down south?
We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

RB


So we are paying about $10-12 more here, primarily for insurance so 
the propane companies can protect themselves from shysters.


It was not that many years ago I could drive 12-15 miles to a small 
town and get a tank filled for $8.  now most of the exchange places 
are $18-20 for a partial tank.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

2015-08-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Might have something to do with all those taxes / fees / lawsuits / EPA
rules / general harassment associated with, oh maybe something like, could
be... Global Warming?  Naahh...


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That's sick.  HD charges more than triple what you pay.  I'll check at the
 Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today..


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[MBZ] OT: The Clown out-wits 'em again

2015-08-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Funny guy!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-turns-cellphone-voicemail-campaign-ad/story?id=32875155

Clearly our ruling class has much to learn from someone who actually works 
for a living.  Hillary! vs Trump would be endlessly entertaining, no?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] That sinking (brake) feeling

2015-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Park it over a dry spot and pump the brakes a bit. 
If there are no obvious leaks, MC seems likely. 
Leaks in lines, hoses or calipers should put fluid on the ground. 

Which reminds me, the e320 had that sinking feeling when I moved it last night. 
Need go move it again and check for spots in the dirt. 

Mitch.

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