Re: [MBZ] He main lined some heroin tonight and the price went way up

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
At that price he’s going to.

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 He wants to keep it 4ever.
 
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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If it runs and the dash wood is decent that's a decent price.

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Re: [MBZ] He main lined some heroin tonight and the price went way up

2015-08-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He wants to keep it 4ever.

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[MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html

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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Thats an outstanding price... I'd be all over that.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Mao, ready for a road trip?
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Thats an outstanding price... I'd be all over that.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Yes, too bad it’s so far away…

Jon


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 Thats an outstanding price... I'd be all over that.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Another great car!  I especially like the color…

Jon


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 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
 wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You mean other than the abuse this group is known for? ;)

I'd add pictures and language to show the condition of the coupe specific parts 
(door seals in particular) which are expensive or impossible to find.

I'd add the MB paint code and German or MB name for the color, if indeed the 
official name is not purple.

A picture of the battery tray sans battery, and then the same area sans battery 
tray would be nice.  Pictures of the undersides of the doors (inside bottom 
edge) are also nice.

Good luck with the sale!
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I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly,
but
wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Very nice. Weird how no rust despite mostly northeast use and high miles! Must 
have been doing many long summer road trips!

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 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
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 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] He main lined some heroin tonight and the price went way up

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Or at least as long as the AC BLOWS ICE COLD

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On 8/22/15 6:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He wants to keep it 4ever.

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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yep, you should buy it and ship it out there

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 Thats an outstanding price... I'd be all over that.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You are on crack.

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 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
 wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Very nice, well sorted, and a good price.  I think it will sell quickly.

FWIW, I submitted the link to BAT.  Maybe it will show up there….

Dan heading back out to do the other bank of spark plugs on the S420


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 Very nice. Weird how no rust despite mostly northeast use and high miles! 
 Must have been doing many long summer road trips!
 
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 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
 wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Nice car, good color.  Too bad it is missing half its doors!

Outa my price range.

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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Mechanical injection, transistorized ignition with points, pretty easy to
sort out.  They tend to run hot and have head gasket issues, however.

Jaime


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 Will need some tuning: Is this a D-Jetronic car?
 What's the ignition like?

 Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT Airplane pR0n of the day

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/breathtaking-blue-bugatti-100p-replica-finally-makes-fi-1725669099

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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I want it

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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Looking mighty fine.  'Hope it goes well.

Wilton

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I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Will need some tuning: Is this a D-Jetronic car?
What's the ignition like?

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Jaime.Don't mean to nit-pick, 16 digit VIN?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

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 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
 wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
 Jaime
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Oh yeah, I missed the A for the sindelfingen plant!

Jaime


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 Jaime.Don't mean to nit-pick, 16 digit VIN?

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:35:40 -0400
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  I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
  wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
  http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
  Jaime

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
I hate the crap electric in the W220

Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as normal.  
The dash says that the marker is non op.  I figure it may be the original bulb 
is bad, so I change it.  New bulb is very nice and orange, bright, and blinks 
like the old one.  Normal.  Dash still says it is non-op

clay



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 That’s nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some 
 electrical items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them.  It’s a fancy name 
 for saying that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits 
 current if it sees a ground or short circuit.
 
 Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker light out.  
 I test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins I checked the socket 
 for power with the light switch on.  Nothing.
 
 Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” 
 won’t pass power to the circuit.
 
 Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.
 
 Dan
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML.  
 There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows 
 either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I try 
 to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it out, put 
 in the charger, no juice.
 
 So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in 
 there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  WTF?  So 
 then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some 
 reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, 
 one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back 
 seat.  I try to find the one by the door, there is none there.  WTF???  So 
 the manual says The fuse allocation chart is located under cover of the 
 rear one.  So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart. 
  WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover!  I had 
 to cut a little tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess 
 no one has ever been in that fuse box.
 
 Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly 
 workers?)  Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you 
 supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is the 
 fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no 
 idea which one to pull.
 
 Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart
 
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[MBZ] Anybody in Charlotte, NC?

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got a guy with an SL cover I want.  He doesn’t want to ship it.

Anybody in the area that might be able to pick it up and dump it in USPS or UPS 
for me?

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes my thought too. Remembering  Dr. Booth.
On Aug 22, 2015 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 So, it needs $4,000 worth of TLC - making the price the same as Jamie's . .
 .



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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Hence the request for K'leb to have a shufti first...  :)

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Yes my thought too. Remembering  Dr. Booth.
 On Aug 22, 2015 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  So, it needs $4,000 worth of TLC - making the price the same as Jamie's
 . .
  .
 
 
 
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 of
  our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
 
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 who
  learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
  for themselves.
 
  WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
  2013 F150, 18 mpg
  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Not a bad price. 

Rick 
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Subject: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:38:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well.  I
 made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a
 hot part of the world.  As a result of the changes, my engine runs a
 bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient.

Now that's interesting. Does it cause the auxiliary fan in front of the
radiator/condenser more?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Stuff - S420

2015-08-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

And another ATTABOY.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 12:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's Stuff - S420


Started on the 1994 S420 about 7:30 this morning, before it got nasty 
outside.


Changed plugs.  Easy on this car, very accessible.  Wires are definitely 
original.  Plugs were not, and all in good shape.  Probably could have 
used them for another 10k-15k.  Noticed that they were resistor Bosch 
plugs, which are unnecessary in this car, as the Beru boots have resistors 
in them.  The replacements were non-resistor.


Figured I would have a look at the distributor caps and rotors.  First 
M119 I have worked on that the distributor cover latches weren’t broken. 
Amazing!


Distributor cap bolts had paint marks on them and the caps and rotors were 
without question the originals.  Pretty nasty looking inside as a matter 
of fact.  Just so happens I had a pair of new ones ready to go, so on they 
went.


I don’t drive the car enough to tell if it made a difference or not, but I’ll 
check with the boy when he gets home today.  In order not to color his 
opinion I didn’t tell him what I did to the car.  That way he will give me 
an unbiased opinion.


He has reported that on occasion he has to do two crank cycles before the 
car starts.  In questioning him it doesn’t seem like there’s a pattern, 
but when I went to move it out of the garage today it did it to me.  I 
suspect the fuel pressure regulator might be getting sketchy.  I just 
happen to have a new one on the shelf, so I may put that on the car 
tomorrow morning.


Waiting to hear back from my retired MB dealer tech who makes wire sets 
with all the OE parts.  I’ll order a new set of wires from him.


Done by 10:00.  Plenty of time to go inside, cool off, take a shower and 
run by the USPS to drop off the last of the eBay stuff I had to ship.


Dan
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[MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


1982 Mercedes 300CD
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5152330737.html

via cPro Craigslist App
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
fastidious owner = good price for what it is


On Aug 22, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

 ‎Not a bad price. 
 
 Rick 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 ‎  Original Message  
 From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 6:35 AM
 To: mercedes Mailing List
 Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Cc: Jaime Kopchinski
 Subject: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey
 
 I put my 300CD on CL last night.  I'll be listing it on ebay shortly, but
 wanted to see what kind of response I get here first:
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5184290910.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] He main lined some heroin tonight and the price went way up

2015-08-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 10:12:46 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Or at least as long as the AC BLOWS ICE COLD

Which it does not at the present time.


Craig

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 On 8/22/15 6:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
  He wants to keep it 4ever.

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So I found the fuse chart in a paper that was folded up and tucked in 
the fuse box, it has the map for all the boxes in Deutsche, Anglis, and 
some other language.  Found the ciggy lighter fuse, and of course there 
are no spare fuses and no fuse puller thingie.  Had a 15A fuse in my 
toolbox so popped the old one out, it was fried, popped the new one in, 
now there is juice to the ciggy lighter phone charger thingie.  Mama 
will be happy now.  Unclear why she did not mention it to the dealer 
when she took the vehicle in for the A or B service or whatever it was 
on Friday week ago.  Sigh.


The ones in the car are marked S as in 15S, is S the German for A?  
Did they have their own guy named Schultz or something who discovered 
current flow, and this is some sort of snub to M. Ampere?  (Hey, Dieter, 
throw me a 15 Schultz fuse in there willya?)


I should probably go buy a coupla boxes of fuses and a little puller 
thingie to put in there so next time it blows I can tell her how to 
CHANGE YOUR FUSES!


BTW the service consisted mostly of a 10k mile checkup and filters 
(engine and cabin) change, maybe oil too I forgot to notice, which 
according to the dealer guy would have been like $900 but it was covered 
under the CPO or warranty we got or something.  Another one is included, 
so after another 20k miles I guess I am going to have to do all that 
stuff (and buy myself a good bottle or 3 of whisky). She was ragging 
about why it is so expensive to do that stuff.  I tried to explain but I 
was having a hard time convincing myself.


Will the DAS system cover this 2012 ML?  Or is there something else like 
it?  I should look into that if I am going to have to maintain this 
thing myself.  I'm wondering too if the main computer in the thing talks 
to all that stuff and there might be some kind of special codes to get 
into it?  That would make some kind of sense, at least some Merkin sense.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But Kaleb might  think it is over priced
On Aug 22, 2015 5:42 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Hence the request for K'leb to have a shufti first...  :)

 On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Yes my thought too. Remembering  Dr. Booth.
  On Aug 22, 2015 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
   So, it needs $4,000 worth of TLC - making the price the same as Jamie's
  . .
   .
  
  
  
   --
   OK Don
  
   NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US
 citizens!
  
   *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
  of
   our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
  
   There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
  who
   learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
 fence
   for themselves.
  
   WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
   2013 F150, 18 mpg
   2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
   1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Dan wrote:
 
 What is nice is that with the [DAS] setup I have it works
 with everything from the early 1990s systems using the 38
 pin diagnostic connector all the way up to around 2010
 models.

 I don’t use it that often, but it’s an invaluable tool to
 have, even with the older cars.

Heh.  It seems we differ in our definition of older cars!

I'll live with the lower performance and economy in my type
of older car for the simplicity, durability, and
repairability.

--  Philip, with no SCRs in any of his taillight circuits.

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
we will never get the quality of cars that used to be made.  Now it is all 
plastic and wires.  Beyond the ability of the standard user to diagnose or 
repair, unless you are Penoff.

Priapis driving neighbor thinks that his plastic car will last a long time.  
All that plastic will be able to get 3D printed so parts will never go out of 
style.

clay

On Aug 22, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 That's nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some 
 electrical items have electronic fuses as MB calls them.  It's a fancy 
 name for saying that they're using an SCR to control a circuit, and it 
 limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit.
 
 Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker light out.  
 I test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins I checked the socket 
 for power with the light switch on.  Nothing.
 
 Further studying revealed that if there's no load, the electronic fuse 
 won't pass power to the circuit.
 
 Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.
 
 Dan
 
 More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990.
 
 Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains.  Bowties and pixiedust, but 
 none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and 
 engineers used to build cars with.
 
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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Klebster would have a better idea of what is covered with later model stuff.

You’ll see the system identified as a “C3” or C4”.  I believe the C4 has wifi 
capabilities and doesn’t require a physical connection to the car to be used.

Again, I know Kaleb is up to speed on the later stuff, so I’ll defer to him on 
that.

Dan


 On Aug 22, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 So I found the fuse chart in a paper that was folded up and tucked in the 
 fuse box, it has the map for all the boxes in Deutsche, Anglis, and some 
 other language.  Found the ciggy lighter fuse, and of course there are no 
 spare fuses and no fuse puller thingie.  Had a 15A fuse in my toolbox so 
 popped the old one out, it was fried, popped the new one in, now there is 
 juice to the ciggy lighter phone charger thingie.  Mama will be happy now.  
 Unclear why she did not mention it to the dealer when she took the vehicle in 
 for the A or B service or whatever it was on Friday week ago.  Sigh.
 
 The ones in the car are marked S as in 15S, is S the German for A?  Did 
 they have their own guy named Schultz or something who discovered current 
 flow, and this is some sort of snub to M. Ampere?  (Hey, Dieter, throw me a 
 15 Schultz fuse in there willya?)
 
 I should probably go buy a coupla boxes of fuses and a little puller thingie 
 to put in there so next time it blows I can tell her how to CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
 
 BTW the service consisted mostly of a 10k mile checkup and filters (engine 
 and cabin) change, maybe oil too I forgot to notice, which according to the 
 dealer guy would have been like $900 but it was covered under the CPO or 
 warranty we got or something.  Another one is included, so after another 20k 
 miles I guess I am going to have to do all that stuff (and buy myself a good 
 bottle or 3 of whisky). She was ragging about why it is so expensive to do 
 that stuff.  I tried to explain but I was having a hard time convincing 
 myself.
 
 Will the DAS system cover this 2012 ML?  Or is there something else like it?  
 I should look into that if I am going to have to maintain this thing myself.  
 I'm wondering too if the main computer in the thing talks to all that stuff 
 and there might be some kind of special codes to get into it?  That would 
 make some kind of sense, at least some Merkin sense.
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight Tools Huge Parking Lot Sale

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I'm not sure how they can make any money with the free shipping on 
stuff


I'm wondering if there's some quiet thing where the foreign
trade imbalance is offset by this.  Not 'free' so much, as already
paid for by our whopping trade imbalance?

Me?  A cynic?  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight Tools Huge Parking Lot Sale

2015-08-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



The Chinese postal service subsidizes export packages like crazy.
It's cheaper to mail some minor electronic trinket (like an OBD II bluetooth
dongle)
from Shanghai to my house than it is to mail a letter from next door to my
house.
Meanwhile, USPS wants $2.70 for a sub ounce domestic package because it's more
than 1/8 thick.

Mitch.


Meanwhile OOPS and FudUx won't touch anything for under $12.

Sending 20 lbs of hamburger overnight with dry ice costs over $200, 
plus the cost of the hamburger, dry ice and the substantial cost of a 
foam box inside a cardboard box.


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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Nothing a good radiator and a few modifications couldn't fix.

Jaime


On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Run hot is not a good discription for a car for me to own here in hell.

 Bob R
 On Aug 22, 2015 7:03 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Mechanical injection, transistorized ignition with points, pretty easy to
  sort out.  They tend to run hot and have head gasket issues, however.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Saturday, August 22, 2015, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  
   Will need some tuning: Is this a D-Jetronic car?
   What's the ignition like?
  
   Mitch.
  
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Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes Benz (W123) 240D, 300D, 300TD *Parting Out*

2015-08-22 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Not Mine. etc.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:41:19 +
From: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: Fw: 4 Mercedes Benz (W123) 240D, 300D, 300TD *Parting Out*

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.
 - Forwarded Message -
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 To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 2:29 PM
 Subject: 4 Mercedes Benz (W123) 240D, 300D, 300TD *Parting Out*
   



fred.s...@verizon.net forwarded you this from craigslist:


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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
H'm!  Mind going over and sniffing at it for me?  Certes, the price is
right...

-MMM-

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 1982 Mercedes 300CD
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5152330737.html

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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I probably could.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:25 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 H'm!  Mind going over and sniffing at it for me?  Certes, the price is
 right...
 
 -MMM-
 
 On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 1982 Mercedes 300CD
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5152330737.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
So, it needs $4,000 worth of TLC - making the price the same as Jamie's . .
.



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Re: [MBZ] ?

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I thought intonation was built into the instrument, much like a piano.


It is.  All wind instruments are imperfect, the question is which
set of compromises will be most palatable to the user base.  Supposedly,
in 1955 Buffet changed to bore to a more complex form, rather than 
pretty

much the pure cylinder that it had been since 1630.  This made for more
even intonation, requiring less work by the player to wrestle the thing
into place, but possibly made it sound not quite so good.  I think we're
talking about issues that only a pretty good player could notice.

Regardless, the marketplace has spoken, and resale value on these is 
higher

than the slightly older ones.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 You’ll see the system identified as a “C3” or C4”.  I believe the C4 has wifi
 capabilities and doesn’t require a physical connection to the car to be used.

Doesn't require a physical connection to the computer, but I've never gotten the
wifi to work right on mine, don't know if it's the software, the C4, or the
laptop, but the tech guys can wifi onto the laptop to work on it so I doubt it's
my lappy. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

The ones in the car are marked S as in 15S, is S the German for A?


S for scheiss?  As in crappy American blade fuses?  :-)

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There are different parameters for the aux fan turn on temperature, for 
example, as well as changes to the interior blower fan speed, too.  For the 
later models like my W220 Mercedes has profiles set up in the software for 
various applications.  In this case there are profiles for the climate control 
system that determine how it works relative to the climate.  That is, there is 
a profile for “hot” climates, “normal” climates and “cold” climates.  I’ve been 
told these are comparable to the Middle East, most of the world, and higher 
latitude locations.  It affected everything from engine operating temperatures 
to blower speeds and aux fan settings, among other things.

As for the cost of the DAS, it depends.  You can do what I did and just buy the 
multiplexer, cables and software on an external hard drive (around $300) or go 
full bore and get it installed on an IBM T30 (?) laptop, which runs in the $500 
range.  I had an old HP laptop I wasn’t using for anything, so I have it 
running on it and nothing else.  It also includes the WIS, EPC and technical 
data, all of which can be referenced from the DAS system.

What is nice is that with the setup I have it works with everything from the 
early 1990s systems using the 38 pin diagnostic connector all the way up to 
around 2010 models.

You can get pretty deep into the cars with this, even with the older basic 
pre-ODBII proprietary system that is on the W140 and R129 chassis and others.  
For example, I know a guy in my W140 forum on BenzWorld that uses it to get 
transmission pressures.  By checking the pressures that the clutches engage at 
you can get a good idea of the internal condition of the transmission.

I don’t use it that often, but it’s an invaluable tool to have, even with the 
older cars.

Dan


 On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:38:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well.  I
 made some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a
 hot part of the world.  As a result of the changes, my engine runs a
 bit cooler and my AC is a lot more efficient.
 
 Now that's interesting. Does it cause the auxiliary fan in front of the
 radiator/condenser more?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You probably just need the fault cleared.

Dan


 On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:15 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I hate the crap electric in the W220
 
 Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as 
 normal.  The dash says that the marker is non op.  I figure it may be the 
 original bulb is bad, so I change it.  New bulb is very nice and orange, 
 bright, and blinks like the old one.  Normal.  Dash still says it is non-op
 
 clay
 


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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
DAS is quite expensive is it not? The VCDS cable for my VW was something like 
$300 brand new, the software is free once you've bought the cable.

-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!
   
I felt much the same way, although I put my concerns aside in a compromise for 
the deal I got on the car.

That being said, I have to say that if you have the DAS software and 
multiplexer, troubleshooting and fault diagnosis is amazingly simple on these 
cars.  You pretty much plug the computer in, run the diagnostics, and it tells 
you what’s wrong (or not) and allows you to reset any fault codes.

The DAS software even gives you the links to the repair procedures and suggests 
possible problems based on the fault.

It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well.  I made 
some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a hot part of 
the world.  As a result of the changes, my engine runs a bit cooler and my AC 
is a lot more efficient.

If you don’t have the DAS, you’re pretty much left to guess at the problem.

Dan


 On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990.
 
 Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains.  Bowties and pixiedust, but 
 none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and 
 engineers used to build cars with.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight Tools Huge Parking Lot Sale

2015-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 21, 2015 at 10:10 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
 I'm not sure how they can make any money with the free shipping on stuff 
 but it is all reasonable quality, probably the same stuff every other 
 store sells just factory direct with minimal markup.

The Chinese postal service subsidizes export packages like crazy. 
It's cheaper to mail some minor electronic trinket (like an OBD II bluetooth
dongle)
from Shanghai to my house than it is to mail a letter from next door to my
house. 
Meanwhile, USPS wants $2.70 for a sub ounce domestic package because it's more
than 1/8 thick. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 
2012 ML.  There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the 
manual shows either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the 
ciggy lighter.  I try to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing 
happens.  So I pry it out, put in the charger, no juice.


So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small 
fuses in there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of 
anything.  WTF?  So then I download the manual (she does not leave 
it in the car for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse 
boxes scattered around the car, one in the side of the dash by the 
pass door and another under the back seat.  I try to find the one by 
the door, there is none there.  WTF???  So the manual says The fuse 
allocation chart is located under cover of the rear one.  So I open 
that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 
79 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover!  I had to 
cut a little tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I 
guess no one has ever been in that fuse box.


Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly 
workers?)  Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are 
you supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good 
news is the fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of 
those around but no idea which one to pull.


Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart

--R


Don't have that problem on real Mercedes like my 240Ds, the 300D, the SDLs!

I am sure that is a bad habit learned from crypesler or other merkuns.

Even my dogde vans have one fuse box in front of the firewall, 
driver's side, just like all my MBs have been.  (easily accessible) 
Everything is marked, and fuses are also listed in the owners manual.


It must be a bad habit from too much 'shine in Alabama.

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I found some pdfs of the charts for the 4(!!!) fuse boxes that some MB 
tech posted, including a vid that shows where the pass side panel is 
(not where the manual says it is).  I guess they are findable on some MB 
maintenance server somewhere, probably only accessible by techs.  She 
just left on errands, I'll look at it when she gets back.


--R



On 8/22/15 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some electrical 
items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them.  It’s a fancy name for saying 
that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it 
sees a ground or short circuit.

Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker light out.  I 
test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins I checked the socket for 
power with the light switch on.  Nothing.

Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” won’t 
pass power to the circuit.

Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.

Dan


On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML.  
There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows either/both 
a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I try to get the 
lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it out, put in the 
charger, no juice.

So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in there and 
some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  WTF?  So then I download the manual 
(she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse 
boxes scattered around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another 
under the back seat.  I try to find the one by the door, there is none there.  WTF???  So 
the manual says The fuse allocation chart is located under cover of the rear 
one.  So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 79 
TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover!  I had to cut a little tab on the 
carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box.

Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly workers?)  
Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you supposed to figure 
out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is the fuses seem to be the 
newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no idea which one to pull.

Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart

--R

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
That's nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some 
electrical items have electronic fuses as MB calls them.  It's a 
fancy name for saying that they're using an SCR to control a 
circuit, and it limits current if it sees a ground or short circuit.


Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker 
light out.  I test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins 
I checked the socket for power with the light switch on.  Nothing.


Further studying revealed that if there's no load, the electronic 
fuse won't pass power to the circuit.


Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.

Dan


More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990.

Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains.  Bowties and 
pixiedust, but none of the reliability and rationality the old German 
machinists and engineers used to build cars with.


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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I felt much the same way, although I put my concerns aside in a compromise for 
the deal I got on the car.

That being said, I have to say that if you have the DAS software and 
multiplexer, troubleshooting and fault diagnosis is amazingly simple on these 
cars.  You pretty much plug the computer in, run the diagnostics, and it tells 
you what’s wrong (or not) and allows you to reset any fault codes.

The DAS software even gives you the links to the repair procedures and suggests 
possible problems based on the fault.

It also gives you the ability to alter operating parameters as well.  I made 
some simple changes on my car so it thinks it was delivered to a hot part of 
the world.  As a result of the changes, my engine runs a bit cooler and my AC 
is a lot more efficient.

If you don’t have the DAS, you’re pretty much left to guess at the problem.

Dan


 On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 More reasons why I don't want a MB made after 1990.
 
 Proof the MB designers truly lost their brains.  Bowties and pixiedust, but 
 none of the reliability and rationality the old German machinists and 
 engineers used to build cars with.
 
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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

2015-08-22 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Makes me long for my '68 280 SE I had in the early 90's.

Bob R
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[MBZ] Today's Stuff - S420

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Started on the 1994 S420 about 7:30 this morning, before it got nasty outside.

Changed plugs.  Easy on this car, very accessible.  Wires are definitely 
original.  Plugs were not, and all in good shape.  Probably could have used 
them for another 10k-15k.  Noticed that they were resistor Bosch plugs, which 
are unnecessary in this car, as the Beru boots have resistors in them.  The 
replacements were non-resistor.

Figured I would have a look at the distributor caps and rotors.  First M119 I 
have worked on that the distributor cover latches weren’t broken.  Amazing!

Distributor cap bolts had paint marks on them and the caps and rotors were 
without question the originals.  Pretty nasty looking inside as a matter of 
fact.  Just so happens I had a pair of new ones ready to go, so on they went.

I don’t drive the car enough to tell if it made a difference or not, but I’ll 
check with the boy when he gets home today.  In order not to color his opinion 
I didn’t tell him what I did to the car.  That way he will give me an unbiased 
opinion.

He has reported that on occasion he has to do two crank cycles before the car 
starts.  In questioning him it doesn’t seem like there’s a pattern, but when I 
went to move it out of the garage today it did it to me.  I suspect the fuel 
pressure regulator might be getting sketchy.  I just happen to have a new one 
on the shelf, so I may put that on the car tomorrow morning.

Waiting to hear back from my retired MB dealer tech who makes wire sets with 
all the OE parts.  I’ll order a new set of wires from him.

Done by 10:00.  Plenty of time to go inside, cool off, take a shower and run by 
the USPS to drop off the last of the eBay stuff I had to ship.

Dan
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[MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 
ML.  There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows 
either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I 
try to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it 
out, put in the charger, no juice.


So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small 
fuses in there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  
WTF?  So then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car 
for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered 
around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another 
under the back seat.  I try to find the one by the door, there is none 
there.  WTF???  So the manual says The fuse allocation chart is located 
under cover of the rear one.  So I open that one up, it has some fuses 
in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart 
under the fuse box cover!  I had to cut a little tab on the carpet cover 
too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box.


Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly 
workers?)  Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you 
supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is 
the fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around 
but no idea which one to pull.


Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart

--R

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some electrical 
items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them.  It’s a fancy name for saying 
that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it 
sees a ground or short circuit.

Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker light out.  I 
test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins I checked the socket for 
power with the light switch on.  Nothing.

Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” won’t 
pass power to the circuit.

Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.

Dan

 On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML.  
 There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows 
 either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I try 
 to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it out, put 
 in the charger, no juice.
 
 So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in 
 there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  WTF?  So then 
 I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and 
 it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered around the car, one in the 
 side of the dash by the pass door and another under the back seat.  I try to 
 find the one by the door, there is none there.  WTF???  So the manual says 
 The fuse allocation chart is located under cover of the rear one.  So I 
 open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 79 
 TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover!  I had to cut a little 
 tab on the carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever 
 been in that fuse box.
 
 Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly 
 workers?)  Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you 
 supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is the 
 fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no 
 idea which one to pull.
 
 Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart
 
 --R
 
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