Re: [MBZ] OT domestic flat rate book
My car was about $1000 with $550 of that being transmission. A Golf is likely easier than a van... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:55 PM Subject:[MBZ] OT domestic flat rate book Anyone have access to a domestic flat rate book? Friend wondering about labor cost to change AT in 2010 grand caravan. In a rear drive car, not a prob, but I have no idea about labor cost for a FWD. I know, way early for a trans failure, but I'm not involved with diagnosis, jut trying to find what is a reasonable cost for this. Curt, what was the labor for your VW? That may be similar or less. Transmissions between 350 (used) to $3-4000 new/rebuilt etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines?
Glad you found it, its hard to search from the tablet. That stuff is great... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:55 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines? Craig wrote: In March, I replaced the leaking injector return lines on our '82 240D/3.0 with some tubing from our local hardware store. Since that wasn't viton and should be replaced before it fails, I'm wondering where others have gotten the viton tubing. If you have bought some, please let me know. McMaster, I think. Curt wrote 2015-03-11 High-Temperature Viton Fluoroelastomer Tubing Soft, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 Wall, Black I just bought some more back in January, great stuff. Doesn't give the braided look for the original but stays flexible and seals well as near as I can tell forever. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
OK Don, (quoter of Sam Clemons and WIll Rogers) sez: One of my uncles was a glider pilot in WWII in Europe. He barely survived the crash landing, and it was over 40 years later before he would get in another aircraft. There is an audio recording of Lee Cline of WHO Radio interviewing a guy name Sylvan in the 60s or 70s about his experience as a glider pilot. Sylvan worked for the stat Conservation Commission, and Lee asked him why he walked with a limp. Sylvan told about the glider experience and the difference between training and landing in france, with the hedgerows and rock walls. Sylvan's glider hit a hedge and rock wall, and he was on his way home on his first day in france. His gimpy leg was his souvenir of trying to land a glider in a postage stamp size field in france. I'll see if I can find the cd figure out a way to put the interview online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfYSmGl8io8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines?
$18 on Amazon. Nice cast and machined one, not the low end stamped steel version. Never seen them at FLAPS, dealer sells them, though. Never had to buy one. Dan On Aug 29, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: POS! I'll take it off your hands if ya pay me $500. SO how much did these special pliers cost? Are they at FLAPS, or stealer, or? Looks like a removable pex clamp. Some of the pex clamps can be clamped with a end nipper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT:crockauto
These are bearings? Have you tried web searches on each name to see if any are made in 'Merica? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2015 10:45:54 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I''m looking at parts at crockauto for a Dodge. Choices are: WJB$57 Dura International $69 Mevotech $72 I've never heard of these brands, but I think Dura is a OEM for some things. These brands I've heard of with timken being the most trustworthy (IMHO) Raybestos $85 Timken $92 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who promote a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with swapping stuff out. Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, I keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Nod* Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean because Its got a lifetime guarantee. I've got a backpack from LL Bean I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they still make the same pack... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? I can see that ending well. I think not. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a try. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like floor jacks. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT:crockauto
Good idea, but not much differentiation: WJB$57 CHINA ZWZ 1 yr warranty Dura International $69 1 yr warranty Probably china No info COO Mevotech $72 Probably made in CHINA Canuk company 5 yr warranty or 1 yr warranty Raybestos $85 1 yr warranty no info COO Timken $92 1 yr warranty no info COO Moog and SKF are 3 yr Mopar is 2 yr. the Mopars lasted 3-4 years including the overheating from the defunct accelerometer/antiskid. I probably should look at the price with shipping for several brands. Obviously a high use product with 7-10 different vendors. It is a known weakness. Crypsler quickly redesigned it, but the newer designs don't seem to last long either. These are bearings? Have you tried web searches on each name to see if any are made in 'Merica? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2015 10:45:54 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I''m looking at parts at crockauto for a Dodge. Choices are: WJB$57 CHINA ZWZ 1 yr warranty Dura International $69 1 yr warranty Probably china Mevotech $72 Probably made in CHINA Canuk company 5 yr warranty or 1 yr warranty I've never heard of these brands, but I think Dura is a OEM for some things. These brands I've heard of with timken being the most trustworthy (IMHO) Raybestos $85 1 yr warranty Timken $92 1 yr warranty ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
I am still waiting for my No Bush sign from andrew. That, along with No pillary or No Clinton signs, this sign, and Grant's I'm ready for pillary hangman sign should make a good business. Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
One of my uncles was a glider pilot in WWII in Europe. He barely survived the crash landing, and it was over 40 years later before he would get in another aircraft. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice article. I would have sent it to him if he was still alive. My Dad was in a glider training program for WWII, luckily the program was suspended before my Dad was shipped over. His training took place in Texas I think. Program was stopped because of high casualty rates during the landing process. -Original Message- From: OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:06 PM To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing Good one. I'd read about the development of this procedure before, but hadn't seen a movie of it in action. It makes me think that is we did this today, a glider club could launch sailplanes twice as fast as they do with the tow plane landing after each tow - they could just circle around, constantly pulling gliders into the air - too cool. My 182 used to have a glider tow hook, might have to find another one . . . On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For the military aviation buffs: http://warisboring.com/articles/the-snatch-method-was-one-crazy-way-to-make-a-glider-fly/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rich
Going in my bunker along with the crates of ammo --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are you selling off the milk and bread and TP and batteries at half price now? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
This one has made my day! http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/ -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:33:51 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This one has made my day! http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/ Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
Nice article. I would have sent it to him if he was still alive. My Dad was in a glider training program for WWII, luckily the program was suspended before my Dad was shipped over. His training took place in Texas I think. Program was stopped because of high casualty rates during the landing process. -Original Message- From: OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:06 PM To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing Good one. I'd read about the development of this procedure before, but hadn't seen a movie of it in action. It makes me think that is we did this today, a glider club could launch sailplanes twice as fast as they do with the tow plane landing after each tow - they could just circle around, constantly pulling gliders into the air - too cool. My 182 used to have a glider tow hook, might have to find another one . . . On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For the military aviation buffs: http://warisboring.com/articles/the-snatch-method-was-one-crazy-way-to-make-a-glider-fly/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT domestic flat rate book
My car was about $1000 with $550 of that being transmission. A Golf is likely easier than a van... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android I was thinking $750 is probably in the normal/reasonable range for a minivan and $500 would be cheap. I have no idea what other parts would need to be changed, or should be changed when you are in there. (And the cost for those) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Some years ago, while buying a lifetime guarantee part, I ask the parts man, who happened to also own the company, What exact does it mean, Lifetime Guarantee. His reply has stayed with me since.. Without smiling and with a straight face, he said It means that if you ever bring the SOB back, I'll kill you ... Pretty much sums up much of my experience since with stores that advertise Lifetime Guarantees. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who promote a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with swapping stuff out. Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, I keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Nod* Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean because Its got a lifetime guarantee. I've got a backpack from LL Bean I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they still make the same pack... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? I can see that ending well. I think not. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a try. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like floor jacks. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:42:28 -0600 Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. He does say democrats at the beginning, but at the very end he mentions republicans. He could solve that problem by having a bunch of signs made and selling them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT:crockauto
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:03:01 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These are bearings? Have you tried web searches on each name to see if any are made in 'Merica? Failing that, go to a NAPA store and ask them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power and trust. Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others. Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free pass to violate laws. This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own conclusions. https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bother Green car for K'leb
With another color the price is half. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:44 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not mine, no interest http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5135726394.html clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe
You should buy all three and corral them inside an oversized kennel. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, just wax that redun; that'll make it run really well. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: clay redgh...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe I am tired of screwing around with the 300D racing mess (LeMons) and will be parting it prior to the crusher. With that gone, I feel a void in my parking lot and think I can replace it with another Silver Star. But which? This is the current crop of contenders http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5159744593.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5145798883.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5150823305.html Now, recall that I have to get it on the track for under $500. That means whatever I part from it can pay for repairs, but I have to come as close to $500 in the wash. Not sure what all parts become spare on each. Not too into rust repair anymore, either. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rich
The saltpeter in the ammo will help preserve your hot dogs. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Going in my bunker along with the crates of ammo --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are you selling off the milk and bread and TP and batteries at half price now? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
LOL, assuming he wasn't serious... On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some years ago, while buying a lifetime guarantee part, I ask the parts man, who happened to also own the company, What exact does it mean, Lifetime Guarantee. His reply has stayed with me since.. Without smiling and with a straight face, he said It means that if you ever bring the SOB back, I'll kill you ... Pretty much sums up much of my experience since with stores that advertise Lifetime Guarantees. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who promote a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with swapping stuff out. Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, I keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Nod* Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean because Its got a lifetime guarantee. I've got a backpack from LL Bean I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they still make the same pack... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? I can see that ending well. I think not. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a try. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like floor jacks. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters if they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. Only W123, 111, 108, and 109 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. Only W123, 111, 108, and 109 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon
I came hope loaded with mulch after a long drive, backed up the driveway and then noticed drips of oil and followed them back into the street. Then I saw a lake of thinnish oil under the REAR of the car, dripping lustily. I caught what was left in a drip pan and checked fluids under the hood. All seemed to be OK so I am concluding tentatively that this is rear diff fluid. The self leveling suspension fluid level seems normal, and besides, SLS fluid is clear and not black. I have a tow truck lined up first thing tomorrow morning. Has this sudden catastrophic loss of rear diff oil ever happened to anyone else? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
Why not? On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a buck or two more but I figured it was worth it. Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters if they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. Only W123, 111, 108, and 109 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon
Sorry - it's black. I have drained and replenished the rear diff fluid on several of my cars over the years Some is thin (for my W109 with ir suspension) whereas others are 90W and syrupy. I am now unclear as to what it might be. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diff oil isn't thin and it smells really bad of sulfur, it should be easily identifiable. I assume you'd have said if it was black engine oil. ATF is red, your power steering fluid might be too. SLS is, I think, mostly colorless. You did check the color of the fluid didn't you? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon I came hope loaded with mulch after a long drive, backed up the driveway and then noticed drips of oil and followed them back into the street. Then I saw a lake of thinnish oil under the REAR of the car, dripping lustily. I caught what was left in a drip pan and checked fluids under the hood. All seemed to be OK so I am concluding tentatively that this is rear diff fluid. The self leveling suspension fluid level seems normal, and besides, SLS fluid is clear and not black. I have a tow truck lined up first thing tomorrow morning. Has this sudden catastrophic loss of rear diff oil ever happened to anyone else? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a buck or two more but I figured it was worth it. Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters if they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes. Only W123, 111, 108, and 109 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
Because your 123s are good with elring or any German brand of trans filters. PAY ATTENTION. Why not? On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a buck or two more but I figured it was worth it. Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe
I just need one to screw around with. Three would irk the neighbors. Three non running cars would really cook my goose. The wagon would be good for hauling parts and home repair items The SLC would allow me to compare the topless v. not topless. I could also rally the SLC. Having a twin allows me to source parts for both and take up half the shelf space on spares. What I strip from the SLC, can help the SL clay On Aug 30, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: You should buy all three and corral them inside an oversized kennel. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, just wax that redun; that'll make it run really well. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: clay redgh...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe I am tired of screwing around with the 300D racing mess (LeMons) and will be parting it prior to the crusher. With that gone, I feel a void in my parking lot and think I can replace it with another Silver Star. But which? This is the current crop of contenders http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5159744593.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5145798883.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5150823305.html Now, recall that I have to get it on the track for under $500. That means whatever I part from it can pay for repairs, but I have to come as close to $500 in the wash. Not sure what all parts become spare on each. Not too into rust repair anymore, either. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
Only W123, 111, 108, and 109 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon
Diff oil isn't thin and it smells really bad of sulfur, it should be easily identifiable. I assume you'd have said if it was black engine oil. ATF is red, your power steering fluid might be too. SLS is, I think, mostly colorless. You did check the color of the fluid didn't you? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon I came hope loaded with mulch after a long drive, backed up the driveway and then noticed drips of oil and followed them back into the street. Then I saw a lake of thinnish oil under the REAR of the car, dripping lustily. I caught what was left in a drip pan and checked fluids under the hood. All seemed to be OK so I am concluding tentatively that this is rear diff fluid. The self leveling suspension fluid level seems normal, and besides, SLS fluid is clear and not black. I have a tow truck lined up first thing tomorrow morning. Has this sudden catastrophic loss of rear diff oil ever happened to anyone else? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon
SLS fluid ought to be clear or light green/blue if the Febi version, but is often black when the pump seals start to go and allow engine oil to mingle with the hydraulic oil. This would be evident in the reservoir as well. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: SLS fluid is clear and not black. -- David Bruckmann Planning Navigator TC • Transcontinental Northern California 47540 Kato Rd., Fremont, CA 94538 Tel +1 510-580-7741 Cell +1 510-579-9920 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon
Will you pay now and take delivery in 2025? On Aug 30, 2015 11:52 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I can ease your mind and take that money pit off your hands for 500 bucks. :) Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I came hope loaded with mulch after a long drive, backed up the driveway and then noticed drips of oil and followed them back into the street. Then I saw a lake of thinnish oil under the REAR of the car, dripping lustily. I caught what was left in a drip pan and checked fluids under the hood. All seemed to be OK so I am concluding tentatively that this is rear diff fluid. The self leveling suspension fluid level seems normal, and besides, SLS fluid is clear and not black. I have a tow truck lined up first thing tomorrow morning. Has this sudden catastrophic loss of rear diff oil ever happened to anyone else? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
