Re: [MBZ] fixin yer Benz

2015-09-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:33:23 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/some-idiot-smashed-my-mercedes-and-heres-how-i-fixed-it-1728773776


Another article linked on that page is interesting, too:

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/5-things-no-one-tells-you-about-owning-a-used-luxury-ca-1582610274


Craig

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[MBZ] Today's Work

2015-09-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Oldest son’s 1998 S420 needed a right front caliper, as one of the pistons had 
stuck in it.

Replaced the caliper and did brakes across the front axle with oldest son doing 
the work while I supervised (and assisted as necessary.)  Took all of maybe 45 
minutes.  This is the second time he’s done brakes on a car, so he’s becoming 
proficient with it.  Showed him how to bleed brakes with a MityVac and siphon 
jar, too.

Tomorrow I plan on doing the fuel filter on the 94 S420, as I keep forgetting 
about it when I have the car.  I may take a swipe at the close assist system, 
as it’s a bit hinky.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it was.Thank 
you for the correction.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 16:03:52 -0500
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: fmi...@gmail.com
> 
> > Fred wrote:
> > 
> > Henry V, at Agincourt, his rev-up-the-troops speech.
> > Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more and fill
> > up the gaps with our english dead. etc.
> 
> That is a slight mis-quote. It is "Once more __unto__ the breach..."
> 
>  Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
>  Or close the wall up with our English dead.
>  In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
>  As modest stillness and humility:
>  But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
>  Then imitate the action of the tiger;
> 
> 
> Henry V does say "into the breach" - but elsewhere.
> 
>  For you shall read that my great-grandfather
>  Never went with his forces into France
>  But that the Scot on his unfurnish'd kingdom
>  Came pouring, like the tide into a breach,
  
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing W126 Motor Mounts

2015-09-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The little shock absorber was rarely bad from what I recall, not to mention 
that it was pricey, too.

In my oft-occurring nit-pickyness I replaced it once and found no difference in 
the way the car felt afterwards.

Dan

> On Sep 6, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Great comments, thanks all.  I forgot about the little shock absorber 
> thingie(s), I should get that too.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

2015-09-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
If you want to go solar...I just did a solar install on the motor home. I
put 2 100W panels on the roof, an MPPT controller (so I could wire the
panels in series and have the wiring handle the higher voltage more
efficiently) and 2 Group 27 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel.  The
system works great.  The MH already had a 1600W inverter which I use very
little.

Total cost for all components was about $750. I spent more on the panels to
get flexible ones that I could tape with 3M VHB tape to the curved
fiberglass roof. Rigid panels would cost about $50-100 less IIRC.

The way to go is to figure out what your daily amperage usage would be.
Battery capacity should be at least twice that amount, and solar input
should obviously be enough to exceed usage.

I agree with others that the heat requirement likely would overwhelm the
capabilities of a solar system.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:11 AM
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
seedlings next spring.

I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
a lesser priority.

There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
edge of the building.

Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?

Andrew
Gentleman farmer and rabbit torturer
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Work

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

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From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's Work


Oldest son’s 1998 S420 needed a right front caliper, as one of the pistons 
had stuck in it.


Replaced the caliper and did brakes across the front axle with oldest son 
doing the work while I supervised (and assisted as necessary.)  Took all 
of maybe 45 minutes.  This is the second time he’s done brakes on a car, 
so he’s becoming proficient with it.  Showed him how to bleed brakes with 
a MityVac and siphon jar, too.


Tomorrow I plan on doing the fuel filter on the 94 S420, as I keep 
forgetting about it when I have the car.  I may take a swipe at the close 
assist system, as it’s a bit hinky.


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Oh, Seventh Great Granddad Mathew came ashore at BALTIMORE, not Biltmore, 
how the etc. did THAT get in there?


Wilton

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Cc: "Fred Moir" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?


Wilton, Max.Henry V, at Agincourt, his rev-up-the-troops speech.Once more 
into the breach, dear friends, once more and fill up the gaps with our 
english dead. etc.Stamford is a lovely olde town in my birth county of 
Lincolnshire. Happy daze.Stamford Bridge, Yorkshire was the sight of a 
great battle, english vs norsemen.You can't set foot in the UK without 
stepping on some ones bones.St. Swithun (Swithin) was an high church 
leader before the Norman invasion. He seemed to prefer the common people 
to his peers and many "miracles" were observed after his death.Supposedly 
he wanted to be buried by the side of the road, so that people would walk 
over his grave and to let the rain from the eaves fall upon him. Needless 
to say this did not set too well with the later 13th and 14th century 
churchmen and he was buried within the pale and inside the church. It 
rained hard the day his remains were moved and so it is said that if it 
rains July 15th or July 2nd (actual day) it will rain for 40 days, if 
fair, the same.TMI,I'm sure.Wilton. Watch out for them Inglish, 
they're everywhere.


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 14:28:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com

Where in England?  #1 grandson just spent 5 days or so with girlfriend 
and

her family in Stamford, UK.  'He's back in Paris now.

Tell us about St. Swithin.

BTW, my 7 greats grandfather, Mathew Strickland, immigrated from Cumbria,
England, to Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, directly across the James river
from Jamestown, in 1680; 'came ashore at Biltmore, MD.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Possibilities?

2015-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The stability and maneuverability of these things requires that they be 
controllable rapidly, which can be done with an electric motor. It would 
be interesting to see an analysis of putting a motor/generator on the 
thing, with some batteries for load balancing (is that the right term?), 
sorta like a diesel locomotive (but it doesn't have batteries), and see 
what the size and duration tradeoffs would be like.  They are unlike an 
airplane in that the lift is only from the rotors not the wings, so they 
take more power than that little airplane.


--R



On 9/5/15 9:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

56 propeller copter:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/04/quinquaquadcopter/

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing W126 Motor Mounts

2015-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Great comments, thanks all.  I forgot about the little shock absorber 
thingie(s), I should get that too.


--R



On 9/5/15 5:59 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

As memory serves, you also need to disconnect the little anti shake shock 
absorbers near the oil pan.  All of my mount screws were metric socket head set 
screws so you'll want quality metric allen hex bits for your 3/8 inch ratchet 
set.  Be sure the allen hex goes all the way into the screw head hole (which 
may require cleaning dirt out of the hole with a pick).  You really don't want 
to round out one of these hex sockets because a bit was only part-way inserted. 
 You can't go wrong by pre-treating the screws with penetrating oil.  You will 
also want a good assortment of extensions to position the ratchet handle where 
you can reach it for the topside screws.  Watch for possible interference when 
you jack the engine and use a block of wood to protect the oil pan.  It only 
needs to lift enough to get the now mount in place.  On re-assembly,  the last 
bottom screw is always hard to get aligned; a helper can be enormously useful 
at this step.  I found this job easy on the NA 617 engine but more frustrating 
on the turbo version.


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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:06 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing W126 Motor Mounts

The W126 chassis is a little different from the W140, but not much.

I can’t recall if the lower bolts are regular 13mm heads or if they had socket
head cap screws like the W123 - I’m sure someone here knows.  Definitely do
one side at a time - it makes it a lot easier to align things.

The W126 is pretty much like this:

1.) Remove the lower bolts (2 -13mm or 5mm socket head cap screws)

2.) Remove the upper bolt (17mm)

3.) Release fan shroud - does not have to be removed.

4.) Place jack with block of wood under oil pan and lift the engine gently.
You’ll see the engine stop moving after a few good pumps.

5.) Get back underneath the car and remove the mount. Make note of the
orientation.  Don’t forget the heat shield if there is one.

6.) Get the new mount in position and place heat shield on top, making note
of the tank that sticks out and the hole it indexes into the heat shield.

7.) Place the top mount bolt back in the engine support.  It won’t line up yet.

8.) Carefully lower the engine so the engine support is touching the top of the
mount.  Get the top bolt started.  You may have to move the engine around a
little bit to get it to line up.  Be sure not to cross thread the bolt.

9.) Once the top bolt is in place and started, lower the jack completely.

10.) Try the lower bolts.  One may not line up.  You can use a flat bladed
screwdriver to move the mount around to get the remaining bolt lined up.
Don’t cross thread these - it’s easy to do (don’t ask me how I know this.)

11.) Tighten all three bolts.  Move on to the other side.


It’s one of those brute force sorts of jobs.  Takes some “goomph” but not a lot
of finesse.  Be sure to buy genuine MB or Lemforder mounts.  Anything else
will collapse in a year.

Dan





On Sep 5, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes

 wrote:

I've got to replace the mounts on one of the SDs.  I vaguely recall you have to

put a jack under the oil pan or somewhere to lift it a bit, then do something to
get the old ones out and the new in.  Any memories of that job, anyone?  I
have a pair in the garage somewhere that came with the other SD that seems
OK for now.

--R



On 9/5/15 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Just finished this job, second time I’ve done it, first time was on the S500

coupe, this time on the 1994 S420.

I bought the special offset wrench for removing the top mount bolt, as it’s

buried under the manifolds.  Best $15 I ever spent for a special tool for this 
job.
It made it go much faster.  I did the passenger (easy) side in about 20 minutes,
the driver’s side (difficult) in about 40.

Now I’m heading back out to put the transmission mount in.  Pretty easy

job on the W140.  I’m getting the nasty stuff out of the way early today, then
it’s time to spend sorting out the pneumatics.  Tomorrow it will be R of the
right front caliper on the oldest boy’s 98 S420.  It’s got a stuck piston.  
I’ve got a
reman caliper waiting in the wings for it.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] A surprise when I opened the trunk lid ...

2015-09-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'll bet it was damaged, maybe a broken belt, which finally let go.
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Re: [MBZ] Possibilities?

2015-09-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Zero auto rotation capacity with that design.. you likely notice his panic
when he climbed to about 20 ft altitude for a moment...

Propeller blade tip turbulence losses on that design have to account for
gigantic energy loss. The inclusion of a simple duct around each propeller
would increase thrust, reduce noise, and extend range... I believe..

Won't be flying it myself... in any case..

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 3:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > There are some quadcopter drones which have computer control of position
> > and attitude. The fellow should incorporate that kind of stability
> > augmentation.
> >
> >
> >
> Yes, computer control is what makes these things viable - but do you want
> to be dependent on a computer to keep you from tumbling out of the air?
>
> Just like a helicopter (rotary-wing aircraft) needs more power than an
> > airplane (fixed-wing aircraft).
> >
> > Craig
> >
>
> Yes. Inefficient - having to beat the air into submission. Also, very
> little choice of where you are going to hit when the power fails - can't
> glide worth a darn.
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Possibilities?

2015-09-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> There are some quadcopter drones which have computer control of position
> and attitude. The fellow should incorporate that kind of stability
> augmentation.
>
>
>
Yes, computer control is what makes these things viable - but do you want
to be dependent on a computer to keep you from tumbling out of the air?

Just like a helicopter (rotary-wing aircraft) needs more power than an
> airplane (fixed-wing aircraft).
>
> Craig
>

Yes. Inefficient - having to beat the air into submission. Also, very
little choice of where you are going to hit when the power fails - can't
glide worth a darn.

-- 
OK Don

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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[MBZ] Why your junker ain't worth as much now

2015-09-06 Thread Loren Faeth via Mercedes

Interesting explanation.

http://www.rabin.com/meet/Blog/August-2015/Market-Watch-The-Scrap-Metal-Industry.aspx

Scrap metal prices have always been a indicator of world economic 
health.  Low scrap prices = depression on the way.  High scrap prices 
= boom coming.


Scrap metals, rendered oils and protein, foods, pretroleum, pretty 
much all the commodities are at lows that were unthinkable a couple 
years ago in the 'bummer depression.



As a practical comparison, 4 yrs ago, a 5-7 yr old dogde van was 
worth $8-10k from private sellers.  This week I saw 5-7 yr old dogde 
vans mostly around $5K from private sellers.


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Re: [MBZ] Possibilities?

2015-09-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 17:51:19 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The stability and maneuverability of these things requires that they be 
> controllable rapidly, which can be done with an electric motor.

There are some quadcopter drones which have computer control of position
and attitude. The fellow should incorporate that kind of stability
augmentation.


> It would be interesting to see an analysis of putting a motor/generator
> on the thing, with some batteries for load balancing (is that the right
> term?), sorta like a diesel locomotive (but it doesn't have batteries),
> and see what the size and duration tradeoffs would be like.

His 52 battery system is, hopefully, just a first cut on a proper system.


> They are unlike an airplane in that the lift is only from the rotors
> not the wings, so they take more power than that little airplane.

Just like a helicopter (rotary-wing aircraft) needs more power than an
airplane (fixed-wing aircraft).


Craig

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[MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
'Ello, 'ello, 'ello?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Ah yep.

Wilton

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'Ello, 'ello, 'ello?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.  
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Hah! Last night some PBS show referred to St Patrick's day as snake remembrance 
day
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On September 6, 2015 11:26:56 AM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves accursed
>that they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful day
>this is.
>
>Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
>> 
>> Ah yep.
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "Fred Moir" 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:39 AM
>> Subject: [MBZ] 'ello?
>> 
>> 
>> > 'Ello, 'ello, 'ello?
>> > 
>> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.  
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Where in England?  #1 grandson just spent 5 days or so with girlfriend and 
her family in Stamford, UK.  'He's back in Paris now.


Tell us about St. Swithin.

BTW, my 7 greats grandfather, Mathew Strickland, immigrated from Cumbria, 
England, to Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, directly across the James river 
from Jamestown, in 1680; 'came ashore at Biltmore, MD.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Fred Moir" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?


Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves accursed 
that they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful day 
this is.


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com

Ah yep.

Wilton

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Cc: "Fred Moir" 
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Subject: [MBZ] 'ello?


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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Ya mean Jul 15 and for 40 days thereafter?

Wilton

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Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves accursed 
that they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful day 
this is.


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com

Ah yep.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves accursed that 
they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful day this is.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
> 
> Ah yep.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Cc: "Fred Moir" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:39 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 'ello?
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> > 'Ello, 'ello, 'ello?
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[MBZ] fixin yer Benz

2015-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/some-idiot-smashed-my-mercedes-and-heres-how-i-fixed-it-1728773776

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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think amongst the next lines are "We lucky few, we band of of brothers" and 
"once more into the breach!"...
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'95 E300

On September 6, 2015 2:37:56 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Ya mean Jul 15 and for 40 days thereafter?
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Cc: "Fred Moir" 
>Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
>
>
>> Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves
>accursed 
>> that they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful
>day 
>> this is.
>>
>> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>>
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
>>>
>>> Ah yep.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Cc: "Fred Moir" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:39 AM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 'ello?
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>>>
>>> > 'Ello, 'ello, 'ello?
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Had soma those feelings and thoughts, myself, in Dec of '72, when 
"visiting" Hanoi for several nights.


Wilton

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Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?


I think amongst the next lines are "We lucky few, we band of of brothers" 
and "once more into the breach!"...

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 6, 2015 2:37:56 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Ya mean Jul 15 and for 40 days thereafter?

Wilton

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From: "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Fred Moir" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?



Wilton.And gentlemen now abed in England will feel themselves

accursed

that they were not here on St Swithin's day! Or what ever beautiful

day

this is.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com

Ah yep.

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 'ello?


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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Wilton, Max.Henry V, at Agincourt, his rev-up-the-troops speech.Once more into 
the breach, dear friends, once more and fill up the gaps with our english dead. 
etc.Stamford is a lovely olde town in my birth county of Lincolnshire. Happy 
daze.Stamford Bridge, Yorkshire was the sight of a great battle, english vs 
norsemen.You can't set foot in the UK without stepping on some ones bones.St. 
Swithun (Swithin) was an high church leader before the Norman invasion. He 
seemed to prefer the common people to his peers and many "miracles" were 
observed after his death.Supposedly he wanted to be buried by the side of the 
road, so that people would walk over his grave and to let the rain from the 
eaves fall upon him. Needless to say this did not set too well with the later 
13th and 14th century churchmen and he was buried within the pale and inside 
the church. It rained hard the day his remains were moved and so it is said 
that if it rains July 15th or July 2nd (actual day) it will rain for 40 day
 s, if fair, the same.TMI,I'm sure.Wilton. Watch out for them Inglish, 
they're everywhere.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 14:28:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
> 
> Where in England?  #1 grandson just spent 5 days or so with girlfriend and 
> her family in Stamford, UK.  'He's back in Paris now.
> 
> Tell us about St. Swithin.
> 
> BTW, my 7 greats grandfather, Mathew Strickland, immigrated from Cumbria, 
> England, to Isle of Wight Co., Virginia, directly across the James river 
> from Jamestown, in 1680; 'came ashore at Biltmore, MD.
> 
> Wilton
  
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