Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy, I think installing the correct part will be less hassle than installing 
a cable to control it.  A sheathed cable needs a solid stop for the sheath 
(think bicycle brake), which may not be easy to fabricate.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance 
papers?


The console tray gets a locking jockey box on the newer 126's.
You might need special tools, like a spoon or a popsicle stick,
to break into it.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

My only currently "running" Benz is the pagoda so that's what I plan on taking 
to the Q on Saturday. When I parked it last October, I knew in advance that it 
would need a tune up- distributor cap, rotor, points, condenser so I purchased 
the parts last fall to have ready to install when I got it going again. I also 
knew in advance that the car would need a new exhaust. 

So yesterday, I start it up after almost one full year in hibernation and I 
notice a massive fuel leak. Turns out the braided rubber hose with a fitting on 
one end which feeds fuel from the electric fuel pump to the engine has rotted. 
It's only 8 yrs old! I order the part from classic center and turn my attention 
to the exhaust.

I currently don't have the $1000 in my budget for a new stainless exhaust so I 
decide to repair the old one. Both pipes are rotted through where they attach 
to the back of the muffler so I figure I'd unclamp the muffler, cut out the 
rotted sections of pipe, weld it back together and re-install. 

I crawl under the car and come to the grim realization that the entire exhaust 
is welded together in one piece!  So I unbolt the headers from the manifold- 
not fun. While I'm there I notice that a clamp on a coolant hose has rusted all 
the way through! Wow, the hose was attached by friction and goo alone! I could 
have blown the engine on the way to the Q!

Anyway, while trying to negotiate the exhaust out from under the car I realize 
that it will not come out in one piece so, I cut one of the headers off and 
slide it out. The plan is to reattach with some sort of clamp system.

As of now I cut out the rotted pipes and welded back to muffler. 

Hope no more snags!

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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[G Mann via Mercedes]

FLAPS help section usually has a complete Boden cable assembly, like you
would use on a lawn mower throttle or a choke cable... Slight fabrication
job to mount both ends and attach the cable to the shutdown lever.. you
should be good to go... e.. stop.. ;))

Grant...

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Need a pulley or two or a guide tube/conduit for the pull cable?  KIS.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL
>
>
> On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key.
>>> It'll be "retro"...
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable stop
>> since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I got is the
>> wrong one.
>> The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
>> I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a
>> fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something that
>> would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever wanted to make
>> it more original.
>> My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going to
>> be valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.
>>
>> RB
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm sure you'll feel better driving a car that isn't trying to kill you all the 
time...
I'll be VWing it to the Q. Right now the plan is to drive the '05 Golf, its got 
a slightly dragging brake which seems to be getting better the more I drive it. 
I'd love to find time to jack it up and be sure which brake it is, I think its 
left rear but not 100% sure, none are terribly hot but it makes a noise at low 
speed. I should just do all 4 so I know they're good...
Barring that I'll bring the Jetta, its been doing well although the tinworm 
makes it look scabby.

-Curt

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Cc: Dimitri  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:16 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.
   
My only currently "running" Benz is the pagoda so that's what I plan on taking 
to the Q on Saturday. When I parked it last October, I knew in advance that it 
would need a tune up- distributor cap, rotor, points, condenser so I purchased 
the parts last fall to have ready to install when I got it going again. I also 
knew in advance that the car would need a new exhaust. 

So yesterday, I start it up after almost one full year in hibernation and I 
notice a massive fuel leak. Turns out the braided rubber hose with a fitting on 
one end which feeds fuel from the electric fuel pump to the engine has rotted. 
It's only 8 yrs old! I order the part from classic center and turn my attention 
to the exhaust.

I currently don't have the $1000 in my budget for a new stainless exhaust so I 
decide to repair the old one. Both pipes are rotted through where they attach 
to the back of the muffler so I figure I'd unclamp the muffler, cut out the 
rotted sections of pipe, weld it back together and re-install. 

I crawl under the car and come to the grim realization that the entire exhaust 
is welded together in one piece!  So I unbolt the headers from the manifold- 
not fun. While I'm there I notice that a clamp on a coolant hose has rusted all 
the way through! Wow, the hose was attached by friction and goo alone! I could 
have blown the engine on the way to the Q!

Anyway, while trying to negotiate the exhaust out from under the car I realize 
that it will not come out in one piece so, I cut one of the headers off and 
slide it out. The plan is to reattach with some sort of clamp system.

As of now I cut out the rotted pipes and welded back to muffler. 

Hope no more snags!

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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Prep award. A new one!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dimitri,
> You may win the prep award. Sorry not a lift.
> On Sep 15, 2015 7:17 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> My only currently "running" Benz is the pagoda so that's what I plan on
>> taking to the Q on Saturday. When I parked it last October, I knew in
>> advance that it would need a tune up- distributor cap, rotor, points,
>> condenser so I purchased the parts last fall to have ready to install when
>> I got it going again. I also knew in advance that the car would need a new
>> exhaust.
>> 
>> So yesterday, I start it up after almost one full year in hibernation and
>> I notice a massive fuel leak. Turns out the braided rubber hose with a
>> fitting on one end which feeds fuel from the electric fuel pump to the
>> engine has rotted. It's only 8 yrs old! I order the part from classic
>> center and turn my attention to the exhaust.
>> 
>> I currently don't have the $1000 in my budget for a new stainless exhaust
>> so I decide to repair the old one. Both pipes are rotted through where they
>> attach to the back of the muffler so I figure I'd unclamp the muffler, cut
>> out the rotted sections of pipe, weld it back together and re-install.
>> 
>> I crawl under the car and come to the grim realization that the entire
>> exhaust is welded together in one piece!  So I unbolt the headers from the
>> manifold- not fun. While I'm there I notice that a clamp on a coolant hose
>> has rusted all the way through! Wow, the hose was attached by friction and
>> goo alone! I could have blown the engine on the way to the Q!
>> 
>> Anyway, while trying to negotiate the exhaust out from under the car I
>> realize that it will not come out in one piece so, I cut one of the headers
>> off and slide it out. The plan is to reattach with some sort of clamp
>> system.
>> 
>> As of now I cut out the rotted pipes and welded back to muffler.
>> 
>> Hope no more snags!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I'll be following this thread with great interest. Would like to have a
good price per sq. ft number to work with.

Presently have a new 14,000 sq ft shop ordered and delivered.. construction
of site leveling and footings underway. Erection in next 90 days or less.
I would like to seal the floor with a material that works well and has a
long lifetime.

[I'm single.. I can have as big a man cave as I want.. ;)) ]

Grant...


Call the industrial floor guys if you can afford it.  The industrial 
epoxy can stand up better than concrete.  It ain't cheap.  Probably 
10K to 20k$ for that, and maybe more.  I got a quote a couple years 
ago, but I don't remember the per sq ft price.


But you could coat the actual work area/office and not coat the 
"storage areas" for now.


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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I was looking at cables intended to control a power take off so they 
are solid enough to push or pull without much lneed for everage.
I was also looking under the hood and thinking a bell crank of some 
sort should make it fairly easy to convert a horizontal pull to a 
vertical pull.
Might not even need that if the cable is flexible enough to route 
from the horizontal to the vertical and exert a down pull on the 
stop lever when pulled from inside the cabin.
As you said, I want to keep it simple and not create a Rube Goldberg 
setup. (although the punk stuff is interesting).


Could install a push button start switch too and toss the keys.


On the 190Dc, I used the hood release cable form a 56 Karmann Ghia to 
shut off the IP (pulling down the lever the IP)  THose had a clamp on 
the IP for the Push/pull start/stop cable.  I used that clamp to hold 
the cable sheath.




Your car is different.  It does not use the start/stop knob to turn 
off the engine.  I think you;d be better off to buy the right shutoff 
and use it that way.  If you want to dis-associate it from the key 
switch, use a air toggle switch to block or open the vacuum line 
between the ign switch assembly and the IP.


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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

My only currently "running" Benz is the pagoda so that's what I plan 
on taking to the Q on Saturday. When I parked it last October, I 
knew in advance that it would need a tune up- distributor cap, 
rotor, points, condenser so I purchased the parts last fall to have 
ready to install when I got it going again. I also knew in advance 
that the car would need a new exhaust.


So yesterday, I start it up after almost one full year in 
hibernation and I notice a massive fuel leak. Turns out the braided 
rubber hose with a fitting on one end which feeds fuel from the 
electric fuel pump to the engine has rotted. It's only 8 yrs old! I 
order the part from classic center and turn my attention to the 
exhaust.


I currently don't have the $1000 in my budget for a new stainless 
exhaust so I decide to repair the old one. Both pipes are rotted 
through where they attach to the back of the muffler so I figure I'd 
unclamp the muffler, cut out the rotted sections of pipe, weld it 
back together and re-install.


I crawl under the car and come to the grim realization that the 
entire exhaust is welded together in one piece!  So I unbolt the 
headers from the manifold- not fun. While I'm there I notice that a 
clamp on a coolant hose has rusted all the way through! Wow, the 
hose was attached by friction and goo alone! I could have blown the 
engine on the way to the Q!


Anyway, while trying to negotiate the exhaust out from under the car 
I realize that it will not come out in one piece so, I cut one of 
the headers off and slide it out. The plan is to reattach with some 
sort of clamp system.


As of now I cut out the rotted pipes and welded back to muffler.

Hope no more snags!


Waytago!The Welding GURU welds again!

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[MBZ] Max's bandaids Was: Prepping for the Q.

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

This is when a lift would be nice to have.  My '95 sedan front 
exhaust pipe also cannot be removed from under the car without a 
lift.


The White Whale ('87 wagon) seems to have developed an exhaust leak 
in the last couple weeks, I need to make some time to diagnose that 
and either replace the rusty components or patch.  Lowes has a 
muffler patching tape with an advertisement I could not resist, I 
may try that.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


Being a Diesel, you can bandaid and scab away with abandon, no carbon 
monoxide concerns.


My rusty 240D has lotsa banaids and hose clamps.  So many that I had 
to use coathangers to hold it up in the middle.  It would sag between 
the bandaids and hang down and scrape the pavement.


I need a new front section some year  if the car lasts that long.

On my 110s, the vibration would crack the pipe in front of the 
muffler, sometimes ruining the muffler.  At the time, welch's grape 
juice came in a 6 oz. smooth side steel can.  Those made perfect 
bandaids for the small OM621 exhaust pipe.  I got to where I'd never 
try to have the pipes put together  as designed.  I'd use the can and 
2 hose clamps to make a "flexible coupling" and never again had a 
muffler ruined.


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[MBZ] Las Vegas Airliner Fire

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Boeing was warned the engine on the BA plane that caught fire on a Las Vegas 
runway was 'unsafe' four years ago 

Warning advises it must be inspected every 48,000 hours or 6,000 flights - 
which BA says it complied with   

The Federal Aviation Authority found that the General Electric engine, a 
GE90-85B, had an ‘unsafe condition’ following an investigation.

They discovered the compressor could disintegrate and lead to an explosion that 
would propel debris at such a high velocity it would endanger the plane, The 
Daily Beast reported.

The plane’s engine exploded in precisely the way FAA had warned could happen 
and caused ‘uncontained engine failure and damage to the airplane’. 

Denial: When the warning was issued, both Boeing and General Electric objected 
to the ‘unsafe condition’ warning and tried to have it removed, but in the 
final ruling in June 2011, the FAA retained the wording

Solution: In the Airworthiness Directive, the FAA ruled that airlines must 
inspect the engine every 48,000 flight hours or 6,000 flights. As long as this 
was done, the FAA said there would be no risk

General Electric stressed that the version on the BA plane was a different 
version to that mentioned in the FAA warning.

The firm said in a statement: ‘The GE90-85B had two different configurations to 
the compressor spool. The original compressor spool was involved in the BA 
event and the later compressor spool configuration is referenced in the FAA AD 
cited in the story.

‘The AD does not relate at all to the compressor used in question in the BA 
event. The FAA AD refers to inspecting a weld that doesn’t exist in the 
original spool configuration.

‘The AD was essentially a modification to the operating manual. It’s simply an 
issue of two configurations.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234999/Boeing-warned-engine-BA-plane-caught-fire-Las-Vegas-runway-unsafe-four-years-ago.html

Gerry wrote:
I wonder if the version with the weld is still flying?

If the plane had been airborne when the engine exploded, could it have managed 
to circle and land?
 
It would seem that airflow and onboard fire extinguishers might have put out 
the fire if it could remain airborne.

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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It'd be cool if it were a foot pedal...
-Curt


  From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL
   
On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


> Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key. It'll 
> be "retro"...
> -Curt
>
>
>
I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable stop 
since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I got is 
the wrong one.
The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a 
fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something 
that would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever wanted 
to make it more original.
My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going to 
be valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.

RB


   
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[MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 300CD parts W123

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Not Mine, etc.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.

4 Mercedes Benz (W123) 240D, 300D, 300TD *Parting Out*

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/5211533298.html


Mercedes Benz 300CD parts W123

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/5210825075.html

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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dimitri,
You may win the prep award. Sorry not a lift.
On Sep 15, 2015 7:17 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> My only currently "running" Benz is the pagoda so that's what I plan on
> taking to the Q on Saturday. When I parked it last October, I knew in
> advance that it would need a tune up- distributor cap, rotor, points,
> condenser so I purchased the parts last fall to have ready to install when
> I got it going again. I also knew in advance that the car would need a new
> exhaust.
>
> So yesterday, I start it up after almost one full year in hibernation and
> I notice a massive fuel leak. Turns out the braided rubber hose with a
> fitting on one end which feeds fuel from the electric fuel pump to the
> engine has rotted. It's only 8 yrs old! I order the part from classic
> center and turn my attention to the exhaust.
>
> I currently don't have the $1000 in my budget for a new stainless exhaust
> so I decide to repair the old one. Both pipes are rotted through where they
> attach to the back of the muffler so I figure I'd unclamp the muffler, cut
> out the rotted sections of pipe, weld it back together and re-install.
>
> I crawl under the car and come to the grim realization that the entire
> exhaust is welded together in one piece!  So I unbolt the headers from the
> manifold- not fun. While I'm there I notice that a clamp on a coolant hose
> has rusted all the way through! Wow, the hose was attached by friction and
> goo alone! I could have blown the engine on the way to the Q!
>
> Anyway, while trying to negotiate the exhaust out from under the car I
> realize that it will not come out in one piece so, I cut one of the headers
> off and slide it out. The plan is to reattach with some sort of clamp
> system.
>
> As of now I cut out the rotted pipes and welded back to muffler.
>
> Hope no more snags!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I was looking at cables intended to control a power take off so they are 
solid enough to push or pull without much lneed for everage.
I was also looking under the hood and thinking a bell crank of some sort 
should make it fairly easy to convert a horizontal pull to a vertical pull.
Might not even need that if the cable is flexible enough to route from 
the horizontal to the vertical and exert a down pull on the stop lever 
when pulled from inside the cabin.
As you said, I want to keep it simple and not create a Rube Goldberg 
setup. (although the punk stuff is interesting).


Could install a push button start switch too and toss the keys.

Most folks would have no idea how to start the car if I handed them the 
keys so not much worry about it being stolen unless they haul it away on 
a hook.
If one installed some sort of stop for the fuel shutoff cable, then it 
would prevent fuel flow unless one released the stop too.


All sorts of odd things one could do. Maybe I should just get the right 
part and fix it.


RB

On 15/09/2015 5:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Need a pulley or two or a guide tube/conduit for the pull cable?  KIS.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL



On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a 
key. It'll be "retro"...

-Curt



I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable 
stop since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I 
got is the wrong one.

The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a 
fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something 
that would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever 
wanted to make it more original.
My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going 
to be valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In the end you can't ever really keep anybody out...
Since its so far off the beaten path (3/4 mile to the road) I figured we'd have 
to board over windows both inside and out or they'd just smash 'em for the fun 
of smashing.
This year dad has been up there a lot which helps keep the rif raff out...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
   
On 15/09/2015 2:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


> Really? Must be dark in there...
> Our garage at camp has only one window and its way up high to prevent folks 
> from trying to break in. Often I have wished we had more windows but its such 
> a remote site...
>
> -Curt
>      
Couldn't you just put some form of reasonably solid shutter over the 
windows so that you could close them when you are not there?
The garage at my younger son's house has windows over the workbench at 
the one end and brackets that hold 2 X 8's or 10's (cannot recall 
exactly) over the windows on the inside so that you cannot look in and 
would have to go through them as well as the glass in order to get in.

I would think that in a remote location anyone who truly wanted in would 
either break down the door or use a chainsaw to cut a new doorway into 
the wall.

RB


  
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

The hot 240D Dimitri  now owns, has a hole in the left front inner
fenderwell where my brother  had a cable pull-off on the stop. Not sure
what kind of cable  he had
On Sep 15, 2015 6:20 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I was looking at cables intended to control a power take off so they are
> solid enough to push or pull without much lneed for everage.
> I was also looking under the hood and thinking a bell crank of some sort
> should make it fairly easy to convert a horizontal pull to a vertical pull.
> Might not even need that if the cable is flexible enough to route from the
> horizontal to the vertical and exert a down pull on the stop lever when
> pulled from inside the cabin.
> As you said, I want to keep it simple and not create a Rube Goldberg
> setup. (although the punk stuff is interesting).
>
> Could install a push button start switch too and toss the keys.
>
> Most folks would have no idea how to start the car if I handed them the
> keys so not much worry about it being stolen unless they haul it away on a
> hook.
> If one installed some sort of stop for the fuel shutoff cable, then it
> would prevent fuel flow unless one released the stop too.
>
> All sorts of odd things one could do. Maybe I should just get the right
> part and fix it.
>
> RB
>
> On 15/09/2015 5:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Need a pulley or two or a guide tube/conduit for the pull cable?  KIS.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL
>>
>>
>> On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key.
 It'll be "retro"...
 -Curt



 I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable
>>> stop since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I got is
>>> the wrong one.
>>> The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
>>> I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a
>>> fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something that
>>> would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever wanted to make
>>> it more original.
>>> My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going to
>>> be valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.
>>>
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

This is when a lift would be nice to have.  My '95 sedan front exhaust pipe 
also cannot be removed from under the car without a lift.

The White Whale ('87 wagon) seems to have developed an exhaust leak in the last 
couple weeks, I need to make some time to diagnose that and either replace the 
rusty components or patch.  Lowes has a muffler patching tape with an 
advertisement I could not resist, I may try that.
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Prepping for the Q.

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Oh wouldn't a lift be great!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is when a lift would be nice to have.  My '95 sedan front exhaust pipe 
> also cannot be removed from under the car without a lift.
> 
> The White Whale ('87 wagon) seems to have developed an exhaust leak in the 
> last couple weeks, I need to make some time to diagnose that and either 
> replace the rusty components or patch.  Lowes has a muffler patching tape 
> with an advertisement I could not resist, I may try that.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:

 I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...


Mine are all at home.  I can produce them if they want, but... they
have computers in their cars - they can look them up.  Registration /
license are superfluous these days.
mao


They will have you looked before you stop, but many state lawz say 
you have to have reg. and ins. car to hand to johnny l aw.   If you 
don't produce them they can and will use that as an excuse to search 
you and the car, and to fine you at the least, and even haul you into 
j ail if they thiink they can shake you down for more money that way.



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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too.

BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the 
officer and handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, 
I realized it and said, as I laughed and was withdrawing the card, 
"Oh, I gave you the wrong card."  He also laughed and said, "Oh, 
you're OK, go ahead."  I drove on.


Wilton


Wilton, did you ever read Eddie Rickenbacker's biography?

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OK apparently is the exception.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
>>
>>>  I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...
>>>
>>
>> Mine are all at home.  I can produce them if they want, but... they
>> have computers in their cars - they can look them up.  Registration /
>> license are superfluous these days.
>> mao
>>
>
> They will have you looked before you stop, but many state lawz say you
> have to have reg. and ins. car to hand to johnny l aw.   If you don't
> produce them they can and will use that as an excuse to search you and the
> car, and to fine you at the least, and even haul you into j ail if they
> thiink they can shake you down for more money that way.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yes, many years ago; 'don't remember a lot of it.
'Oughta read it again.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap



>NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too.


BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the 
officer and handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, 
I realized it and said, as I laughed and was withdrawing the card, 
"Oh, I gave you the wrong card."  He also laughed and said, "Oh, 
you're OK, go ahead."  I drove on.


Wilton


Wilton, did you ever read Eddie Rickenbacker's biography?

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Early one evening in 1976, I had just departed main gate of George AFB, CA, 
with my '74 Plymouth van heavily loaded with beams (sticking out the 
rear,etc.) I had salvaged from a small bridge on base to take them to 
"cabin" in mtns 35 miles away.   Almost immediately, CHP stopped me and 
asked for "license and registration."  Officer glanced at 'em, returned 'em 
and waved me on.  Next day, as I was returning the registration card to the 
glove compartment from on the engine cover, where I had placed it when the 
officer returned, I realized  I had given him a 2-year-old card for the '64 
Dodge van with MI plates I had sold coupla years before.  Officer obviously 
did look very closely at card nor vehicle.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "OK Don" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap



I've never been asked for my registration . . .

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The standard cop recitation when you're pulled over is "driver's license
and vehicle registration please".





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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Need a pulley or two or a guide tube/conduit for the pull cable?  KIS.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL



On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key. 
It'll be "retro"...

-Curt



I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable stop 
since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I got is the 
wrong one.

The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a 
fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something that 
would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever wanted to make 
it more original.
My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going to be 
valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/maintaining/sealingplain.htm

http://www.concretenetwork.com/products-sealer/

http://youtu.be/FbeqnhjRCEw

http://www.kuhlman-corp.com/curing.asp


‎
Rick 
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[MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Bob via Mercedes]

Dan,
   My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical govn'mt 
buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the cities. 
Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance [mined out of 
Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT 
waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the last decade 
with 
EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the original 
but it's  OK..   Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer products 
 that they now have would work for you. These newer products by Hydrozo 
might  slightly darken the applied area.
 Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The 
ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was not 
affected the 
UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application guarantee. 
The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees. They 
also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
 
 How many square feet you doing ??
 
Bob
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder with my
Becker manual and radio code.  In the glovebox.  Of cars w/o airbags.

Andrew
1983 300TD
1985 300TD

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:44 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That, too.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Okie Benz" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap
>
>
> Center console.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance
>>> papers?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[clay via Mercedes]

If you actually drove one for a while, you would see that the 126 is a far 
superior car.  The 220 is junk and will not appreciate

clay

On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> Sure he has spent a lot of money on it but a 220 should be worth a hell of a 
> lot more than a 126.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Crazy how? As in I'm crazy or he's crazy?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That trade is crazy unless your 220 has lots of problems or you just hate 
>>> it and love the 126
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I've seen the actual bill for the rebuild but it doesn't specify the part 
 number for the head. It is visible in place as a casting number, isn't it?
 
 I was wondering the same thing myself. However, since the rebuild was done 
 in 2010, would the original heads still be available? I can have him look 
 at it and tell me. He knows about the rod bender issues so I'm assuming 
 the newer head was installed.
 
 I would be trading a W220 for a W126, so it would be like going from 
 present day to the 1980s. Not a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.
 
 I suspect that a leak is probably due to lack of use. The car hadn't been 
 driven much in the recent past to my knowledge.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Engine - rebuilt." doesn't tell you much - what was done to it by whom? 
> It
> now has an oil leak - should a rebuilt engine leak oil?
> What head does it have? Etc. . . . .
 
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> Hidden Dangers of Push-Button Start

To the rescue - a new invention:
www.kickstarter.com/projects/269655091/phone-fob
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I would guess that your floor has a smooth finish on it though where a 
driveway will be a rougher finish.  When I worked at the airport during 
college, one of the newer hangars had a very smooth floor that had 
(probably) an epoxy finish on it too.  We had to mop and buff that thing 
once a week (my boss believed in a VERY clean hangar) and when it was 
wet like that it was extremely slippery too.  Even if we brought in wet 
airplanes, or washed one in the hangar, we had to get out the sqeegees 
and mops and dry everywhere. I remember slipping and sliding on wet 
patches in there if it had not be dried off.  Was somewhat problematic 
moving wet airplanes with the tug too as it would sometimes spin tires 
on the wet and that made for some tricky maneuvering.  Easy to clean oil 
drips though, they just wiped right up.


I worked in another old hangar that had probably been built in the 30s, 
that thing had a very rough concrete floor, actually made it much harder 
to move planes around though one's shoes and the tugs got some good 
traction.  It had a considerable patina, I'm sure from generations of 
big radials dripping oil all over.


--R



On 9/15/15 12:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The concrete floor of my hangar is painted with something (I don't know
what, but B-12 Chemtool dissolves it), but it is SLIPPERY when WET !
Yes, oil, etc. wipes right up without leaving a stain. I bought special New
Balance anti-slip shoes for working our there. They help a lot.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The
white ones are very eye catching.
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily
cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[WILTON via Mercedes]

That, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap



Center console.

Dan


On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:


So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance 
papers?





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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I put down Bona wood finish on my floors,  It's a catalyzed water-based 
finish.  I wonder if that might work outside to seal up concrete?  Not 
cheap, like $50 a gallon.


--R


On 9/15/15 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Martha has done garage floor epoxy and liked it.  However, painting is a who 
‘nuther matter, not to mention it’s not acceptable in our architectural 
covenants.

Also understand that this is a portion of my driveway, not all of it.  I had 
another “lane”, so to speak, added.  So I have 2/3 old driveway, 1/3 new 
driveway.

I was just looking for some sort of clear sealer that might cut down or prevent 
car drippings from getting into the surface.

Thanks,

Dan





On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:25 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
wrote:

Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The white 
ones are very eye catching.
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily cleaned 
up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry

I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
“WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people pretty 
much universally pan in reviews.
I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
feel the need.
Dan

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance papers?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sep 14, 2015 11:11 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> >
> > My (Tim's) 91 350SDL has right side air bag; no glove box.
>
> Same for a couple later SDs I stripped in the junk yard.  My 87 300SDL does
> not have a PS airbag.
>
> I love the SDL (in principle; seems I love cleaning the house more in
> practice :) but it is not a modern car.  I agree with Kaleb, anything over
> $4k is because you want it, not because it is intrinsically valuable to the
> average buyer.  May be worth splitting the difference with the seller?
>
> Best,
> Tim
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Wrap it with copper screen that can expand to allow your key fob into it 
and all should be good.


--R



On 9/15/15 2:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

There is a learning curve.  Next iteration will feature improvements.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Friend with Tesla parked at mountain top Saturday.  (Was an electric
car 'fun run'.)  Car could not be opened with the fob, etc.  This is
a Tesla, there is NO physical key.  The problem was the radio/TV
transmitter towers there, the EM field strength in the area was
swamping the signal from the fob.  He didn't quite have to have it
towed, but it was a near thing.

Friend with Volt was driving through the mountains recently.  There's
a driving-mode button to change from things like mountain mode to
sport mode.  He uses it a fair amount.  He stabbed the button twice,
per usual, and the car went dead.  Engine off, headlights off.  Dark
twisty mountain road.  Managed to not die, but that wasn't a certain
thing.  So, what braniac puts the power-off button right next to
buttons you use in normal driving?  What the F**K is wrong with a
traditional key?  Ain't nobody ever turned one of those off by
accident.

I _really_ need to get the SDL running again...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sounds interesting.

I’ve got about 300 square feet of surface.

And yes, one of the problems with Thompson’s is the lack of UV protection.

Thanks!

Dan


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
>   My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical govn'mt 
> buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the cities. 
> Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance [mined out 
> of 
> Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT 
> waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the last decade 
> with 
> EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the original 
> but it's  OK..   Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer products 
> that they now have would work for you. These newer products by Hydrozo 
> might  slightly darken the applied area.
> Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The 
> ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was not 
> affected the 
> UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application guarantee. 
> The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees. They 
> also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
> 
> How many square feet you doing ??
> 
> Bob
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In a garage that wouldn't be a problem...

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds interesting.
>
> I’ve got about 300 square feet of surface.
>
> And yes, one of the problems with Thompson’s is the lack of UV protection.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> >   My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical govn'mt
> > buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the cities.
> > Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance [mined
> out of
> > Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT
> > waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the last
> decade with
> > EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the
> original
> > but it's  OK..   Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer
> products
> > that they now have would work for you. These newer products by Hydrozo
> > might  slightly darken the applied area.
> > Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The
> > ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was not
> affected the
> > UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application
> guarantee.
> > The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees. They
> > also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
> >
> > How many square feet you doing ??
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Don't know what others use, but I used small, black leather-bound book-like 
bag/pouch that fits nicely between lower, left edge of driver's seat between 
seat and door threshold; easily reachable while in seat, etc.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap


So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance 
papers?


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Sep 14, 2015 11:11 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> My (Tim's) 91 350SDL has right side air bag; no glove box.

Same for a couple later SDs I stripped in the junk yard.  My 87 300SDL 
does

not have a PS airbag.

I love the SDL (in principle; seems I love cleaning the house more in
practice :) but it is not a modern car.  I agree with Kaleb, anything 
over
$4k is because you want it, not because it is intrinsically valuable to 
the

average buyer.  May be worth splitting the difference with the seller?

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Really? Must be dark in there...
Our garage at camp has only one window and its way up high to prevent folks 
from trying to break in. Often I have wished we had more windows but its such a 
remote site...

-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
   
Not one, including the new garage doors.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Except where you have windows...
-Curt 


      From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

In a garage that wouldn't be a problem...

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds interesting.
>
> I’ve got about 300 square feet of surface.
>
> And yes, one of the problems with Thompson’s is the lack of UV protection.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> >          My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical govn'mt
> > buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the cities.
> > Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance [mined
> out of
> > Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT
> > waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the last
> decade with
> > EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the
> original
> > but it's  OK..  Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer
> products
> > that they now have would work for you. These newer products by Hydrozo
> > might  slightly darken the applied area.
> >            Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The
> > ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was not
> affected the
> > UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application
> guarantee.
> > The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees. They
> > also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
> >
> > How many square feet you doing ??
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key. It'll be 
"retro"...
-Curt


  From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Mountain Man  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL
   
Curly wrote:
> Hidden Dangers of Push-Button Start

To the rescue - a new invention:
www.kickstarter.com/projects/269655091/phone-fob
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The white 
ones are very eye catching. 
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily cleaned 
up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry
> 
> I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
> selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
> “WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people 
> pretty much universally pan in reviews.
> I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
> feel the need.
> Dan

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Re: [MBZ] CL brainchild award

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Why wouldn't a carburated diesel work?


Because you have to control WHEN ignition occurs.  Either inject fuel
with a 100% certainty at the time of injection, or leave it laying 
around
under conditions where it will NOT ignite, and use a spark plug to 
trigger

it.  Carbureting fuel into a 20:1+ compression ratio engine is a recipe
for disaster.  The dual-fuel engines used spark plugs, as I recall.
They'd be in the 10:1 ratio or less.

Or you can use a screw plug to change the compression ratio,
AND use both injectors and spark plugs depending on the fuel
you were feeding it.

Isn't it well known that you can run a lawnmower on diesel,
if it's already hot?  Very smokey, and low-power I'm told.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Martha has done garage floor epoxy and liked it.  However, painting is a who 
‘nuther matter, not to mention it’s not acceptable in our architectural 
covenants.

Also understand that this is a portion of my driveway, not all of it.  I had 
another “lane”, so to speak, added.  So I have 2/3 old driveway, 1/3 new 
driveway.

I was just looking for some sort of clear sealer that might cut down or prevent 
car drippings from getting into the surface.

Thanks,

Dan




> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:25 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
> looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The 
> white ones are very eye catching. 
> Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
> epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily 
> cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
> Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
> Gerry
>> 
>> I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
>> selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
>> “WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people 
>> pretty much universally pan in reviews.
>> I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when 
>> I feel the need.
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

http://www.justanswer.com/home-improvement/6yysk-best-longest-lasting-exterior-concrete-sealer.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00494T3AG


‎
Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] CL brainchild award

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Why wouldn't a carburated diesel work? Injector pump goes kaput so you mount a 
carburetor on the intake and you're back on the road. MPG would probably be 
less, but it could get you back to your home base. Didn't the army have 
multi-fuel trucks in the '60s with both injector pumps and carburetors?
Gerry

> Yes, that is the extremely rare carburated Deisel zundfolge engine, made 
> in Germany only and imported, definatly worth money!
> 
> --R

> On 9/15/15 1:58 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Oh.. the ultra rare diesel with 2 barrel carburaters.. Have not seen
> > one of those is... well.. never..
> >
> > [Is there a special Craigslist school somewhere that teaches ignorant?]
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/5196741636.html
> >>
> >> Might be a decent 111,  but who knows?  Brainchild is about as bright as a
> >> bummerkid.
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Re: [MBZ] CL brainchild award

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Because the diesel has to be injected at high pressure at the compression 
stroke.

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> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:17 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
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> 
> Why wouldn't a carburated diesel work? Injector pump goes kaput so you mount 
> a carburetor on the intake and you're back on the road. MPG would probably be 
> less, but it could get you back to your home base. Didn't the army have 
> multi-fuel trucks in the '60s with both injector pumps and carburetors?
> Gerry
> 
>> Yes, that is the extremely rare carburated Deisel zundfolge engine, made 
>> in Germany only and imported, definatly worth money!
>> 
>> --R
> 
>>> On 9/15/15 1:58 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Oh.. the ultra rare diesel with 2 barrel carburaters.. Have not seen
>>> one of those is... well.. never..
>>> 
>>> [Is there a special Craigslist school somewhere that teaches ignorant?]
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/5196741636.html
 
 Might be a decent 111,  but who knows?  Brainchild is about as bright as a
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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Friend with Tesla parked at mountain top Saturday.  (Was an electric
car 'fun run'.)  Car could not be opened with the fob, etc.  This is
a Tesla, there is NO physical key.  The problem was the radio/TV
transmitter towers there, the EM field strength in the area was
swamping the signal from the fob.  He didn't quite have to have it
towed, but it was a near thing.

Friend with Volt was driving through the mountains recently.  There's
a driving-mode button to change from things like mountain mode to
sport mode.  He uses it a fair amount.  He stabbed the button twice,
per usual, and the car went dead.  Engine off, headlights off.  Dark
twisty mountain road.  Managed to not die, but that wasn't a certain
thing.  So, what braniac puts the power-off button right next to
buttons you use in normal driving?  What the F**K is wrong with a
traditional key?  Ain't nobody ever turned one of those off by
accident.

I _really_ need to get the SDL running again...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely not.

I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
“WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people pretty 
much universally pan in reviews.



I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
feel the need.

Dan



> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:41 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you expect to find anybody at Lowe's who knows anything about the products?
> 
> Wilton
> 


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[MBZ] Dual fuel engines Wuz: CL brainchild award

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The Farmall MD tractor and the IH dozers made during and after WWII 
used a Diesel engine that had a carb and started on Gasoline.  It was 
switched over to Diesel to run.


US military had multifuel trucks, but I don't now how those ran.


Why wouldn't a carburated diesel work? Injector pump goes kaput so 
you mount a carburetor on the intake and you're back on the road. 
MPG would probably be less, but it could get you back to your home 
base. Didn't the army have multi-fuel trucks in the '60s with both 
injector pumps and carburetors?

Gerry


 Yes, that is the extremely rare carburated Deisel zundfolge engine, made
 in Germany only and imported, definatly worth money!

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 > Oh.. the ultra rare diesel with 2 barrel carburaters.. Have not seen
 > one of those is... well.. never..
 >

 > > [Is there a special Craigslist school somewhere that teaches ignorant?]
 > >


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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There is a learning curve.  Next iteration will feature improvements.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> Friend with Tesla parked at mountain top Saturday.  (Was an electric
> car 'fun run'.)  Car could not be opened with the fob, etc.  This is
> a Tesla, there is NO physical key.  The problem was the radio/TV
> transmitter towers there, the EM field strength in the area was
> swamping the signal from the fob.  He didn't quite have to have it
> towed, but it was a near thing.
>
> Friend with Volt was driving through the mountains recently.  There's
> a driving-mode button to change from things like mountain mode to
> sport mode.  He uses it a fair amount.  He stabbed the button twice,
> per usual, and the car went dead.  Engine off, headlights off.  Dark
> twisty mountain road.  Managed to not die, but that wasn't a certain
> thing.  So, what braniac puts the power-off button right next to
> buttons you use in normal driving?  What the F**K is wrong with a
> traditional key?  Ain't nobody ever turned one of those off by
> accident.
>
> I _really_ need to get the SDL running again...
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Center console.

Dan


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance papers?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The concrete floor of my hangar is painted with something (I don't know
what, but B-12 Chemtool dissolves it), but it is SLIPPERY when WET !
Yes, oil, etc. wipes right up without leaving a stain. I bought special New
Balance anti-slip shoes for working our there. They help a lot.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards
> looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The
> white ones are very eye catching.
> Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with
> epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily
> cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
> Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
> Gerry
> >
>
>
> --
>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

IT's a tradeoff, but it's nice that no one can sneak a peek into my
treasure trove of rare Mercedeses cars and parts

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Really? Must be dark in there...
> Our garage at camp has only one window and its way up high to prevent
> folks from trying to break in. Often I have wished we had more windows but
> its such a remote site...
>
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:52 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
>
> Not one, including the new garage doors.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Except where you have windows...
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:39 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
>
> In a garage that wouldn't be a problem...
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds interesting.
> >
> > I’ve got about 300 square feet of surface.
> >
> > And yes, one of the problems with Thompson’s is the lack of UV
> protection.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan,
> > >  My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical
> govn'mt
> > > buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the
> cities.
> > > Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance
> [mined
> > out of
> > > Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT
> > > waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the last
> > decade with
> > > EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the
> > original
> > > but it's  OK..  Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer
> > products
> > > that they now have would work for you. These newer products by Hydrozo
> > > might  slightly darken the applied area.
> > >Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The
> > > ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was
> not
> > affected the
> > > UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application
> > guarantee.
> > > The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees.
> They
> > > also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
> > >
> > > How many square feet you doing ??
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The standard cop recitation when you're pulled over is "driver's license
and vehicle registration please".

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:40 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too.
>
> BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the officer
> and handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, I realized it
> and said, as I laughed and was withdrawing the card, "Oh, I gave you the
> wrong card."  He also laughed and said, "Oh, you're OK, go ahead."  I drove
> on.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:26 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap
>
>
> Illinois lets you get away with that? I'm pretty sure here in MA its a
>> "produce your license and registration" or go to jail...
>> I would expect a progressive place like IL to be the same.
>> -Curt
>>
>>  From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Mountain Man 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap
>>
>> Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...
>>>
>>
>> Mine are all at home. I can produce them if they want, but... they
>> have computers in their cars - they can look them up. Registration /
>> license are superfluous these days.
>> mao
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[WILTON via Mercedes]

NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too.

BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the officer and 
handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, I realized it and 
said, as I laughed and was withdrawing the card, "Oh, I gave you the wrong 
card."  He also laughed and said, "Oh, you're OK, go ahead."  I drove on.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap


Illinois lets you get away with that? I'm pretty sure here in MA its a 
"produce your license and registration" or go to jail...

I would expect a progressive place like IL to be the same.
-Curt

 From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Mountain Man 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

Andrew wrote:

I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...


Mine are all at home. I can produce them if they want, but... they
have computers in their cars - they can look them up. Registration /
license are superfluous these days.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Illinois lets you get away with that? I'm pretty sure here in MA its a "produce 
your license and registration" or go to jail...
I would expect a progressive place like IL to be the same.
-Curt

  From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Mountain Man  
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap
   
Andrew wrote:
> I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...

Mine are all at home.  I can produce them if they want, but... they
have computers in their cars - they can look them up.  Registration /
license are superfluous these days.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've never been asked for my registration . . .

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The standard cop recitation when you're pulled over is "driver's license
> and vehicle registration please".
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder...

Mine are all at home.  I can produce them if they want, but... they
have computers in their cars - they can look them up.  Registration /
license are superfluous these days.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/09/2015 2:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Really? Must be dark in there...
Our garage at camp has only one window and its way up high to prevent folks 
from trying to break in. Often I have wished we had more windows but its such a 
remote site...

-Curt
  
Couldn't you just put some form of reasonably solid shutter over the 
windows so that you could close them when you are not there?
The garage at my younger son's house has windows over the workbench at 
the one end and brackets that hold 2 X 8's or 10's (cannot recall 
exactly) over the windows on the inside so that you cannot look in and 
would have to go through them as well as the glass in order to get in.


I would think that in a remote location anyone who truly wanted in would 
either break down the door or use a chainsaw to cut a new doorway into 
the wall.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] How new cars can kill you Drive a 240D or 300SDL

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/09/2015 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe some day kids will convert their push button start car to a key. It'll be 
"retro"...
-Curt



I have been seriously thinking of converting my car to a pull cable stop 
since me pulloff solenoid appears to be toast and the new one I got is 
the wrong one.

The job of pulling the end off of the pump looks to be a pain anyway.
I have been looking under the hood and thinking about what might be a 
fairly elegant means of pulling down on the shutoff lever. Something 
that would look ok and function well and be removable if I ever wanted 
to make it more original.
My car is in reasonable shape but I don't think these are ever going to 
be valuable so I have no qualms about simple modifications.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'll be following this thread with great interest. Would like to have a
good price per sq. ft number to work with.

Presently have a new 14,000 sq ft shop ordered and delivered.. construction
of site leveling and footings underway. Erection in next 90 days or less.
I would like to seal the floor with a material that works well and has a
long lifetime.

[I'm single.. I can have as big a man cave as I want.. ;)) ]

Grant...

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> IT's a tradeoff, but it's nice that no one can sneak a peek into my
> treasure trove of rare Mercedeses cars and parts
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Really? Must be dark in there...
> > Our garage at camp has only one window and its way up high to prevent
> > folks from trying to break in. Often I have wished we had more windows
> but
> > its such a remote site...
> >
> > -Curt
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:52 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
> >
> > Not one, including the new garage doors.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Except where you have windows...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:39 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: OT - Sealing Concrete
> >
> > In a garage that wouldn't be a problem...
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds interesting.
> > >
> > > I’ve got about 300 square feet of surface.
> > >
> > > And yes, one of the problems with Thompson’s is the lack of UV
> > protection.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob via Mercedes  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dan,
> > > >  My family  business dealt with waterproofing historical
> > govn'mt
> > > > buildings [Independence  Hall] & concrete parking garages in the
> > cities.
> > > > Stuff we used was "Hydrozo".  It's a special gummy like substance
> > [mined
> > > out of
> > > > Nebraska] which when  suspended in a mineral spirits makes a GREAT
> > > > waterproofing coating sprayed  on covering. It's clear but in the
> last
> > > decade with
> > > > EPA stepping in they now  have to make it water-base.  Not like the
> > > original
> > > > but it's  OK..  Let me talk to my brother as to which of the newer
> > > products
> > > > that they now have would work for you. These newer products by
> Hydrozo
> > > > might  slightly darken the applied area.
> > > >Thompson's Waterseal is only good for 6 months. The
> > > > ultraviolet light is what  breaks down Thompson's. Hydrozo's gum was
> > not
> > > affected the
> > > > UVA, so  that's  why we used to give 20 year/2 coat application
> > > guarantee.
> > > > The new  generation Hydrozo is water base so not as long guarantees.
> > They
> > > > also have  alcohol based coatings.  Google it
> > > >
> > > > How many square feet you doing ??
> > > >
> > > > Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's b/c you have never been stopped.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I've never been asked for my registration . . .
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The standard cop recitation when you're pulled over is "driver's license
> > and vehicle registration please".
> >
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> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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[MBZ] shapeshifter Benz

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

And it has a "steering wheel philosophy"

http://jalopnik.com/mercedes-new-concept-iaa-is-a-shapeshifter-1730615788

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Manfred, I’ll check that out.

I’m only looking for something that will seal it to keep oil and grease from 
staining it.  Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about freezing down here….

Dan


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:15 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I'm involved right now with painting the outside of my concrete dome. 
> Richards paints has a concrete sealer that they recommend to be used before 
> painting concrete. It is number 1791C, C for clear. I have no idea if it is 
> slippery in the rain as I haven't walked on the dome in the rain and don't 
> intend to. I don't even know if it seals against oil. The guy I talked to 
> said it is supposed to be an acrylic paint that is supposed to sink into the 
> concrete and seal out air so that the final elastomeric paint will do it's 
> job better. We'll see. Anyway you might give them a call and ask about it.
> 
> Richard's Paint Manufacturing Company, Inc.
> 200 Paint Street
> Rockledge, FL 32955
> 
> Phone: 800-432-0983
> 
> Manfred


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Re: [MBZ] My paatz have returned.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

YOU USED A WRENCH?

That is an amazing thing to consider.

--R



On 9/14/15 10:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I Installed mine Saturday at M-B of Arlington (VA) in the 1985 300TD.
Slightly awkward but not overly challenging.  Trickiest part was threading
the banjo bolt and 9mm crowsfoot fitting into the new cell.  I had the tech
start these for me...  Cross threading would have been a fatal flaw.



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Re: [MBZ] CL brainchild award

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yes, that is the extremely rare carburated Deisel zundfolge engine, made 
in Germany only and imported, definatly worth money!


--R



On 9/15/15 1:58 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Oh.. the ultra rare diesel with 2 barrel carburaters.. Have not seen
one of those is... well.. never..

[Is there a special Craigslist school somewhere that teaches ignorant?]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/5196741636.html

Might be a decent 111,  but who knows?  Brainchild is about as bright as a
bummerkid.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[MG via Mercedes]

Dan,
I'm involved right now with painting the outside of my concrete 
dome. Richards paints has a concrete sealer that they recommend 
to be used before painting concrete. It is number 1791C, C for 
clear. I have no idea if it is slippery in the rain as I haven't 
walked on the dome in the rain and don't intend to. I don't even 
know if it seals against oil. The guy I talked to said it is 
supposed to be an acrylic paint that is supposed to sink into the 
concrete and seal out air so that the final elastomeric paint 
will do it's job better. We'll see. Anyway you might give them a 
call and ask about it.


Richard's Paint Manufacturing Company, Inc.
200 Paint Street
Rockledge, FL 32955

Phone: 800-432-0983

Manfred

From: Dan Penoff 

The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it?s 
considered cured.


I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep 
nasty stuff out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down 
here, so that?s not an issue.


Research I have done indicates that Thompson?s has changed the 
composition of their ?water seal? product, rendering it less than 
useful based on complaints I?m seeing on the Web.


Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can 
find at my local big box home improvement store?


Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Do you expect to find anybody at Lowe's who knows anything about the 
products?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete


Thanks, I already saw these and read them.  Helpful, but doesn’t really 
say anything about specific products.


I’m going to Lowe’s today and look around.

Dan



On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:24 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:


‎http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/maintaining/sealingplain.htm

http://www.concretenetwork.com/products-sealer/

http://youtu.be/FbeqnhjRCEw

http://www.kuhlman-corp.com/curing.asp


‎
Rick
Sent from my BlackBerry Z10


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Sep 14, 2015 11:11 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> My (Tim's) 91 350SDL has right side air bag; no glove box.

Same for a couple later SDs I stripped in the junk yard.  My 87 300SDL does
not have a PS airbag.

I love the SDL (in principle; seems I love cleaning the house more in
practice :) but it is not a modern car.  I agree with Kaleb, anything over
$4k is because you want it, not because it is intrinsically valuable to the
average buyer.  May be worth splitting the difference with the seller?

Best,
Tim
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