Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I worked with "B" and "C" series Cummins engines in stationary applications, 
and they were very rugged and durable.  Can't speak for longevity as most I 
worked with rarely saw more than a few hundred hours a year, but they did run 
well and were very low maintenance.

Dan

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 11:54 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

 Curly wrote:
 
 Or adapting OM engines and 4BTs into
 various 4WD trucks.
> 
>>> Later Curly wrote more:
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if the old type of voltage
>>> regulator you hung on the firewall would be susceptible
>>> to an EMP.
> 
>> Max wrote:
>> 
>> Phooey, rip out all the electrical stuff, install an
>> air-starter, a storage tank, and a compressor driven off
>> the engine.  Have an alternate way to charge the air tank.
>> Living without glow plugs might be rough, need a good
>> healthy compression engine.
> 
> Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
> plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
> don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
> Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
> without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
> Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice.

The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
monthly if not more often.

After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially pay 
out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she needed, 
and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to the doctor 
not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent.

We'll see. We're still researching this.

Dan

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> Gerry sez:  If Obamacare becomes Hillarycare, we're in trouble.
>> ~~~
>> Meade Dillon wrote:
>> .. Reminds me of the joke medical terminology list that went around in 
>> the 90's when Hillary! was trying to "fix" healthcare in secret: Definition 
>> of
>>> Rectum: Darn near killed'em!
>>> Max
>> > Charleston SC
>> >
> 
> Uh, If obunglercare sticks around, we are in trouble.
> 
> Fortunately, some docs are setting up private practice, no Ins.   For those 
> who can afford it, this is the way to go.
> 
> Anyone who would sign up for a larger and more corrupt form of VA healthcare 
> is insane.
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[MBZ] OM 60x water pump pulley

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Anyone got a spare water pump pulley for an OM603.  Mine is dinged up 
and will eat belts.


Kaleb?

I went out to the yard here and they are all badly rusted, buggered up or gone.

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But I have a Q clearance, c. 1976.  It's my understanding they never
expire.  You can trust me.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oooo, sorry, I'd love to but its top Top TOP secret.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 3:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich
>
> I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Landed!
> >
> > Western Union will be activated for Fred and Curt
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 2/3/16 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> The eagle is in flight.
> >> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, but you do it well, and that’s what counts!

Dan

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah you're right it was a week late last year I think...
> Dwight's really the boss, I just bring food. ;)
> -Curt
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 320 cdi engine

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 would say it is time to get the MBUSA Area Representative involved, as it
sounds to me like the dealer has dorked up the engine somehow.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oooo, sorry, I'd love to but its top Top TOP secret.
-Curt
 

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 3:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich
   
I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Landed!
>
> Western Union will be activated for Fred and Curt
>
> --R
>
> On 2/3/16 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The eagle is in flight.
>> -Curt
>>
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[MBZ] Re Not mine

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Skrewed up again!


http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5433791212.html



Fred Moir.
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Diesel preferred.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:57:07 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs Thunderbird as an
> email client.

I would suggest Sylpheed, which is what we have been using for the last
15+ years.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

No it's a secret.  Look on Hillary!'s server.

--R

On 2/4/16 3:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Landed!

Western Union will be activated for Fred and Curt

--R

On 2/3/16 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The eagle is in flight.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah you're right it was a week late last year I think...
Dwight's really the boss, I just bring food. ;)
-Curt
 

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich
   
Well, you did change it last year, I thought?  Can you refresh my memory?

Thanks!

Dan

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Same week every year. We haven't had the committee meeting yet ;) but it'll 
> be soon. I forget when Dwight can get in to book the site, its something like 
> April.
> -Curt
> 
> 


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[MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs Thunderbird as an
email client.  I have used Outlook for decades, but lately, I am
experiencing odd "rules" behavior and periodic corruption of pst files and
the profile.  I suspect some of this is the result of accessing the same pst
files from multiple computers (one at a time) and occasional computer
shutdown before all loose ends are cleaned up.  When I "upgraded" to Office
2013 things seemed to get worse, bug-wise.  Creating new profiles from
scratch seemed to help in the past but I wonder if there isn't a more
dependable client.  I looked online and found strong opinions both ways.
What do folks here think?

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Re: [MBZ] 320 cdi engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sounds like dealer screwed something up.

On 2/4/2016 5:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Got this email from my daughter about her 2008 GL320cdi with 250K miles.

"I took my car to the dealer for routine service,
and a fuel line leak, (we were smelling diesel in the garage).  They
replaced the fuel pump, said we had a small oil leak which could wait and
we chose to do that, because of the cost.  However, when they got the fuel
pump installed, they said it was running really rough.  Took apart the case 
with the valves?; and said the rockets (rockers?) on the intake side were coming
apart, they assume there were metal shavings everywhere, and said I need a
whole new engine.  Does this sound possible? What are your thoughts?
Unfortunately, a new engine is worth more than the car sold at retail, so
it doesn't make sense to do that."

G: Engine wasn't running rough when she took it in. Dealer said it was running 
rough after they installed fuel pump? She called an indy who said the 320cdi 
engines often last no more than 300,000 miles?.

Comment?

Gerry


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[MBZ] 320 cdi engine

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Got this email from my daughter about her 2008 GL320cdi with 250K miles.

"I took my car to the dealer for routine service,
and a fuel line leak, (we were smelling diesel in the garage).  They
replaced the fuel pump, said we had a small oil leak which could wait and
we chose to do that, because of the cost.  However, when they got the fuel
pump installed, they said it was running really rough.  Took apart the case 
with the valves?; and said the rockets (rockers?) on the intake side were coming
apart, they assume there were metal shavings everywhere, and said I need a
whole new engine.  Does this sound possible? What are your thoughts?
Unfortunately, a new engine is worth more than the car sold at retail, so
it doesn't make sense to do that."

G: Engine wasn't running rough when she took it in. Dealer said it was running 
rough after they installed fuel pump? She called an indy who said the 320cdi 
engines often last no more than 300,000 miles?.

Comment?

Gerry


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[MBZ] Kaahz

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Not mine, etc.


http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5424568616.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5426115809.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5428759719.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5433791212.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

I've been using Thunderbird since 2003, can't stand outlook. Never had 
any problems.

I recommend it to my client as a replacement for Windoze Dead Mail.
If you use the calendar in Outlook install Lightning for Thunderbird.

Russ W.

On Thu,2/4/16 16:57, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs Thunderbird as an
email client.  I have used Outlook for decades, but lately, I am
experiencing odd "rules" behavior and periodic corruption of pst files and
the profile.  I suspect some of this is the result of accessing the same pst
files from multiple computers (one at a time) and occasional computer
shutdown before all loose ends are cleaned up.  When I "upgraded" to Office
2013 things seemed to get worse, bug-wise.  Creating new profiles from
scratch seemed to help in the past but I wonder if there isn't a more
dependable client.  I looked online and found strong opinions both ways.
What do folks here think?

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Same week every year. We haven't had the committee meeting yet ;) but it'll be 
soon. I forget when Dwight can get in to book the site, its something like 
April.
-Curt
 

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich
   
M.  That reminds me - any idea of a date for the 2016 CQ?  I need to book 
our flights…

Dan


> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:28 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
 Andrew wrote:
 
 I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?
> 
>>> Curt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oooo, sorry, I'd love to but its top Top TOP secret.
> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>> 
>> But I have a Q clearance, c. 1976.  It's my understanding
>> they never expire.  You can trust me.
> 
> Ahh!  I think you need _chowda_ Q clearance...  That probably
> expires annually. 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm thinking this year we need something cooked in lard...
-Curt
 

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich
   
Yes, but you do it well, and that’s what counts!

Dan

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah you're right it was a week late last year I think...
> Dwight's really the boss, I just bring food. ;)
> -Curt
> 
> 
>  

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?

> > Curt wrote:
> >
> > Oooo, sorry, I'd love to but its top Top TOP secret.

> Andrew wrote:
> 
> But I have a Q clearance, c. 1976.  It's my understanding
> they never expire.  You can trust me.

Ahh!  I think you need _chowda_ Q clearance...  That probably
expires annually. 

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

M.  That reminds me - any idea of a date for the 2016 CQ?  I need to book 
our flights…

Dan


> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:28 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
 Andrew wrote:
 
 I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?
> 
>>> Curt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oooo, sorry, I'd love to but its top Top TOP secret.
> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>> 
>> But I have a Q clearance, c. 1976.  It's my understanding
>> they never expire.  You can trust me.
> 
> Ahh!  I think you need _chowda_ Q clearance...  That probably
> expires annually. 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Well, you did change it last year, I thought?  Can you refresh my memory?

Thanks!

Dan

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Same week every year. We haven't had the committee meeting yet ;) but it'll 
> be soon. I forget when Dwight can get in to book the site, its something like 
> April.
> -Curt
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I used Thunderbird as a replacement for Eudora when it became end of life.  
Granted, I didn’t use it for long, but the short time that I did I liked it.

Dan


> On Feb 4, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs Thunderbird as an
> email client.  I have used Outlook for decades, but lately, I am
> experiencing odd "rules" behavior and periodic corruption of pst files and
> the profile.  I suspect some of this is the result of accessing the same pst
> files from multiple computers (one at a time) and occasional computer
> shutdown before all loose ends are cleaned up.  When I "upgraded" to Office
> 2013 things seemed to get worse, bug-wise.  Creating new profiles from
> scratch seemed to help in the past but I wonder if there isn't a more
> dependable client.  I looked online and found strong opinions both ways.
> What do folks here think?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff wrote:
> We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice.
> The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
> but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
> monthly if not more often.
> After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
> fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially pay 
> out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she needed, 
> and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to the doctor 
> not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent.
> We'll see. We're still researching this.
> Dan
~~
That might work well since you're keeping your regular insurance which you can 
use for specialists.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its out standing in its field...
 

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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the day

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Its out standing in its field...


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I thought it looked more like lookin out da winder of the trailer house.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have one except mine is diesel

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Saw an R for sale tonight.
> 
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> 
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> under its own power.
> Driver was a chicky.
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Re: [MBZ] Kaahz

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those prices are SICK.
On Feb 4, 2016 6:02 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Not mine, etc.
>
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5424568616.html
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5426115809.html
>
> 
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5428759719.html<
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5424568616.html>
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5433791212.html<
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5424568616.html>
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Shipping parts

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

What's the cheapest way to ship a 20 lb part (turbo charger)?

I think it is too big for a priority mail flat rate box.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have used Eudora and T-bird in the past, but am very happy with Outlook
either '07 or '10. I had '13 briefly but hated it and went back to '07. I
have only on a few occasions needed to run the diagnostics, which have
always solved any minor problems.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs Thunderbird as an
email client.  I have used Outlook for decades, but lately, I am
experiencing odd "rules" behavior and periodic corruption of pst files and
the profile.  I suspect some of this is the result of accessing the same pst
files from multiple computers (one at a time) and occasional computer
shutdown before all loose ends are cleaned up.  When I "upgraded" to Office
2013 things seemed to get worse, bug-wise.  Creating new profiles from
scratch seemed to help in the past but I wonder if there isn't a more
dependable client.  I looked online and found strong opinions both ways.
What do folks here think?

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[MBZ] Photographer of the day

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes Benz
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Did he get the phone number for the "chick" or the Benz...
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On February 4, 2016 9:26:52 PM EST, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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>
>2008
>White
>R350
>
>I have the phone number if anyone is interested.  It was on the road, 
>moving under its own power.
>Driver was a chicky.
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did he get the phone number for the "chick" or the Benz...
> --
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>
> On February 4, 2016 9:26:52 PM EST, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Saw an R for sale tonight.
> >
> >2008
> >White
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> >
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> >moving under its own power.
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Re: [MBZ] Kaahz

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I'd pick the 83 126 over the 2001 S


Not mine, etc.


http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5424568616.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5426115809.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5428759719.html

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5433791212.html


Fred Moir.
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Diesel preferred.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

What do folks here think?


I think we'll never have another Microsoft product in the house!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] (no subject)

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Secret message for Rich

Congrats on getting you mac going.  Maybe it does not like being 
cold, and after running a while was warm and happy.  Bad solder joint?


I sent you a message to your account on constructivity (reply to 
yours)  Your server bounced it.  Says it does not like my gmail acct.


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[MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Saw an R for sale tonight.

2008
White
R350

I have the phone number if anyone is interested.  It was on the road, 
moving under its own power.

Driver was a chicky.

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Re: [MBZ] Shipping parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably fedex

On 2/4/2016 9:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

What's the cheapest way to ship a 20 lb part (turbo charger)?

I think it is too big for a priority mail flat rate box.



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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the day

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Buy it sight (almost) unseen.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Its out standing in its field...
>>
>>
>>   From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>>  Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:42 PM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] Photographer of the day
>>
>>
>> Mercedes Benz
>> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5429534819.html
>>
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>
> I thought it looked more like lookin out da winder of the trailer house.
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Re: [MBZ] This could have potential for the 123 fan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What's a "trubo?"  Some sort of Arkiefied turbo?

Dan not an inquiring mind

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> But only for a ture fan
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 2/3/16 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> 1984 Mercedes 300d trubo diesel
>> http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/5427661639.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice.

The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank 
goodness, but a number that are chronic and require her to see a 
doctor or doctors monthly if not more often.


After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching 
the annual fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we 
would essentially pay out the lump sum annually and she could see 
them as many times as she needed, and also (hopefully) get a higher 
level or quality of care due to the doctor not having to run a 
conveyor belt practice to stay solvent.


We'll see. We're still researching this.

Dan

Sent from my MBPad



There is also medishare.  It seems like a good concept, but the 
materials are confusing about costs and payments into the system.


mychristiancare.org/medi-share/

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Re: [MBZ] This could have potential for the 123 fan

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

If you add a door, you get a Tru-bo-door!


What's a "trubo?"  Some sort of Arkiefied turbo?

Dan not an inquiring mind




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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow. Looks sort of shady in a way.

>From what I could glean, you're expected or commit to pay a monthly amount 
>into a bank account you give power of attorney to the group to. They can then 
>take the funds you deposit and use them to pay other member's medical bills.

You are a recipient of said payments for your medical bills as well.

If I'm relatively healthy, I get screwed because I'm covering all the sick 
people's bills. A family of three or more is expected to pay in nearly 
$900/month. Ouch.

Dan

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On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice.
>> 
>> The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
>> but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
>> monthly if not more often.
>> 
>> After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
>> fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially 
>> pay out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she 
>> needed, and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to 
>> the doctor not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent.
>> 
>> We'll see. We're still researching this.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my MBPad
> 
> 
> There is also medishare.  It seems like a good concept, but the materials are 
> confusing about costs and payments into the system.
> 
> mychristiancare.org/medi-share/
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Re: [MBZ] Inside news on the mujis v. rooshans

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It is more like 200 generations of men who have known nothing but war.  
The followers of mahomet have been at this bidness for 14 centuries if 
not longer.  Now, in fairness, the yurpeens engaged in the same bidness 
for multiple centuries as well, up until the last one mostly, and have 
generally sorted themselves out though the mohametans are giving it a go 
again there.


On Charlie's war, I remember reading somewhere that the mujis up in the 
mountains were getting pounded pretty good by the rooshan helicopters 
because their weapons (cannons or something they were using to shoot at 
them) could not elevate their barrels high enough to shoot at the 
helos.  The Stingers leveled that playing field by elevating the 
discourse and gave the rooshans big problems.


--R

On 2/3/16 5:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Additionally, one of my friends who served in Afghanistan related that at
least two generations of men have grown up largely knowing nothing but war
and have pretty much lost all historical cultural basis for anything like
pride in Afghan culture.  In other words, all they've known is war, and so
have very little basis for figuring out what to do (and why to do it) in
peace time.  Their value system is now based on war.

This is an immense problem, but not an impossible one.  It will take
generations of peace to get past.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This depends very much on the conditions (ROE) and the definition of
winning.  The Soviets actually kicked a lot of butt until the US started
supplying the Mujahedeen with Stingers (Charlie Wilson's war).  The US and
Northern Alliance had essentially won except for announcing the upcoming,
unconditional US retreat while allowing Taliban to regroup in neighboring
sanctuaries.  Afghan terrain was a major factor in ancient times but smart
use of airpower can overcome most of that, especially with modern
navigation
and night vision capabilities.  The military dimension is do-able.

But the social/political dimension is critical for any lasting victory.
The
desired end state needs to look like something that is desirable in the
cultural framework of the locals (unless you plan to kill most of them).

Having said all that, chronic stupidity trumps all.



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?



Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political snipe.

Well, since ya brought  it up...
That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
The are evil georgie's puppets.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No. Good one, eh!
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On February 4, 2016 11:03:10 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Are you serious?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> LT Don was one of the D coin flippers, saw him on tv...
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>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On February 4, 2016 10:59:25 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via
>Mercedes"  wrote:
>>> Speaking of jackass D people from Iowa, I assume you and Lt Wonko
>the 
>>> insane do not see eye to eye?  I can't believe some of the stuff
>that 
>>> guys believes.
>>> 
>>> On 2/4/2016 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?
 
 Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political
>>> snipe.
 
 Well, since ya brought  it up...
 That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
 The are evil georgie's puppets.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Are you serious?

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> LT Don was one of the D coin flippers, saw him on tv...
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> 
>> On February 4, 2016 10:59:25 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> Speaking of jackass D people from Iowa, I assume you and Lt Wonko the 
>> insane do not see eye to eye?  I can't believe some of the stuff that 
>> guys believes.
>> 
>> On 2/4/2016 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
 All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?
>>> 
>>> Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political
>> snipe.
>>> 
>>> Well, since ya brought  it up...
>>> That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
>>> The are evil georgie's puppets.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Scott wrote:
> 
> What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs
> Thunderbird as an email client.

I don't use MS Win.  But from what I can tell, Outlook is one
of the biggest weaknesses.

Thunderbird is pretty well behaved on my Linux machines - but
mostly I used Claw-mail, an port of Sylpheed.  Those two are
my favorite graphical email clients.  I know Sylpheed is
available for MS Win.

Or if you are use Gmail, you could just use a browser.

I don't think Eudora or MailWarrior are particularly usable -
or available - anymore.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

That's one reason I've been leery of updating from 10.6; I'm still using
Eudora 6.2 after ten years (and have been using it in its various
incarnations since I became a Mac jockey in the 80s),,,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Eudora is still available, but it only works on machines/OS up to loseXP.
> Eudora for mac works on Rosetta, so it is limited to 10.6 or older OS.
>
> One solution is to run XP on a VM and put Eudora on that VM.  If this
> machine ever craps out, that is my plan to keep using Eudora.
>
> Another alternative is Postbox.  I have not yet tried it but I will some
> day evaluate it to see if it is good enough compared to Eudora.
> Thunderchicken and the thunderchicken adaptation to be more like eudora are
> total POS IMHO.  (compared to Eudora)
>
>
>
>  > Scott wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs
>>>  Thunderbird as an email client.
>>>
>>
>> I don't use MS Win.  But from what I can tell, Outlook is one
>> of the biggest weaknesses.
>>
>> Thunderbird is pretty well behaved on my Linux machines - but
>> mostly I used Claw-mail, an port of Sylpheed.  Those two are
>> my favorite graphical email clients.  I know Sylpheed is
>> available for MS Win.
>>
>> Or if you are use Gmail, you could just use a browser.
>>
>> I don't think Eudora or MailWarrior are particularly usable -
>> or available - anymore.
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It would not have surprised me. He was the guy who just fell in love with Obama 
because he remembered his name at some corn cob up the ass event in 08. 
Personally too l much emphasis is put on Iowa anyway. 

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No. Good one, eh!
> -- 
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> '95 E300
> 
>> On February 4, 2016 11:03:10 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> Are you serious?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> LT Don was one of the D coin flippers, saw him on tv...
>>> -- 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>> 
 On February 4, 2016 10:59:25 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via
>> Mercedes"  wrote:
 Speaking of jackass D people from Iowa, I assume you and Lt Wonko
>> the 
 insane do not see eye to eye?  I can't believe some of the stuff
>> that 
 guys believes.
 
 On 2/4/2016 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?
> 
> Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political
 snipe.
> 
> Well, since ya brought  it up...
> That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
> The are evil georgie's puppets.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Email Clients-Outlook vs Thunderbird

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Eudora is still available, but it only works on machines/OS up to loseXP.
Eudora for mac works on Rosetta, so it is limited to 10.6 or older OS.

One solution is to run XP on a VM and put Eudora on that VM.  If this 
machine ever craps out, that is my plan to keep using Eudora.


Another alternative is Postbox.  I have not yet tried it but I will 
some day evaluate it to see if it is good enough compared to Eudora. 
Thunderchicken and the thunderchicken adaptation to be more like 
eudora are total POS IMHO.  (compared to Eudora)




 > Scott wrote:


 What do the Windoze users here think about Outlook vs
 Thunderbird as an email client.


I don't use MS Win.  But from what I can tell, Outlook is one
of the biggest weaknesses.

Thunderbird is pretty well behaved on my Linux machines - but
mostly I used Claw-mail, an port of Sylpheed.  Those two are
my favorite graphical email clients.  I know Sylpheed is
available for MS Win.

Or if you are use Gmail, you could just use a browser.

I don't think Eudora or MailWarrior are particularly usable -
or available - anymore.




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Re: [MBZ] Shipping parts

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, looks like they are about $21 in this case.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 4, 2016 10:06:18 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Probably fedex
>
>On 2/4/2016 9:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> What's the cheapest way to ship a 20 lb part (turbo charger)?
>>
>> I think it is too big for a priority mail flat rate box.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Speaking of jackass D people from Iowa, I assume you and Lt Wonko the 
insane do not see eye to eye?  I can't believe some of the stuff that 
guys believes.


On 2/4/2016 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?



Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political snipe.

Well, since ya brought  it up...
That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
The are evil georgie's puppets.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a R?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

LT Don was one of the D coin flippers, saw him on tv...
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 4, 2016 10:59:25 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Speaking of jackass D people from Iowa, I assume you and Lt Wonko the 
>insane do not see eye to eye?  I can't believe some of the stuff that 
>guys believes.
>
>On 2/4/2016 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>> All Rs are for sale.  Do you mean Cruz or Rubio?
>>>
>>
>> Only you could take a car fer sale and turn it into some political
>snipe.
>>
>> Well, since ya brought  it up...
>> That's because all the D (jackass) are already bought and paid for.
>> The are evil georgie's puppets.
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Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.


The 6BTA in my truck doesn't have glow plugs, true, but does
have a preheater grid in the intake manifold.  I've never
tried starting without it, though I'm betting it would, if
under protest.  That particular engine/truck is a 240D,
but with 2 more pistons and a turbo.  (It has the P7100
mechanical inline pump.)  Simple, strong, reliable.
Redline at 2500 RPM, half that of the MB diesels.

It's pushing 20 years old, and has 105kmi on it.  Most of
that highway miles, much of it carrying a camper.  I plan to
own it for quite awhile longer.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You should try it with a Harbor Freight heat gun.  Instant gratification.

Dan don't ask me how I know

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On February 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
>> plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
>> don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
>> Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
>> without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
>> Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.
> 
> The 6BT in Dodge pickups in the 1990s had air heating grids in the intakes in
> lieu of glow plugs. 
> I've started farm tractors with a 1500 W pistol grip hair dryer shoved in the
> intake. 
> 
> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Landed!

Western Union will be activated for Fred and Curt

--R

On 2/3/16 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The eagle is in flight.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Another job

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Get a cheap condo somewhere along the coast to crash in during the week 
and keep your vast repository in Okieland, you can go there weekends to 
see mama and the chirruns.


--R

On 2/4/16 12:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On February 4, 2016 at 11:58 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:


Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would have
to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas, Georgia. Wonder
where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.

http://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are-the-10-most-redneck-cities-in-georgia/

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[MBZ] Another job

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would have 
to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas, Georgia. Wonder 
where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.

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Re: [MBZ] Another job

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> On February 4, 2016 at 11:58 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would have
> to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas, Georgia. Wonder
> where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.

http://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are-the-10-most-redneck-cities-in-georgia/

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Re: [MBZ] Another job

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hell, just room with Jabba.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Get a cheap condo somewhere along the coast to crash in during the week
> and keep your vast repository in Okieland, you can go there weekends to see
> mama and the chirruns.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 2/4/16 12:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> On February 4, 2016 at 11:58 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would
>>> have
>>> to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas, Georgia.
>>> Wonder
>>> where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.
>>>
>> http://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are-the-10-most-redneck-cities-in-georgia/
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Re: [MBZ] This could have potential for the 123 fan

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

But only for a ture fan

--R

On 2/3/16 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1984 Mercedes 300d trubo diesel
http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/5427661639.html

via cPro for Craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

BTDT

D

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A Happy Ending for sure!
> 
> How do you know?
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 2/4/16 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> You should try it with a Harbor Freight heat gun.  Instant gratification.
>> 
>> Dan don't ask me how I know
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On February 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 
 Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
 plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
 don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
 Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
 without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
 Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.
>>> The 6BT in Dodge pickups in the 1990s had air heating grids in the intakes 
>>> in
>>> lieu of glow plugs.
>>> I've started farm tractors with a 1500 W pistol grip hair dryer shoved in 
>>> the
>>> intake.
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Another job

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Move to Savannah and hang with the Choirboy.  He's got a nice new shop you 
could fill up fast.

Dan

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would have 
> to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas, Georgia. 
> Wonder where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

A Happy Ending for sure!

How do you know?

--R

On 2/4/16 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

You should try it with a Harbor Freight heat gun.  Instant gratification.

Dan don't ask me how I know

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On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:




On February 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.

The 6BT in Dodge pickups in the 1990s had air heating grids in the intakes in
lieu of glow plugs.
I've started farm tractors with a 1500 W pistol grip hair dryer shoved in the
intake.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] EMP - was: Advantages of a large shop

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On February 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  The "B" series Cummins is direct injection, so no glow
> plugs.  The 4BT is a rough running but strong engine.  I
> don't have much experience with the "B" series, but the old
> Big Cam 14 L Cummins engines would start at 0F (-18 C)
> without a block heater.  Maybe the "B" series does as well?
> Jim C. has a 6BT - he should know.

The 6BT in Dodge pickups in the 1990s had air heating grids in the intakes in
lieu of glow plugs. 
I've started farm tractors with a 1500 W pistol grip hair dryer shoved in the
intake. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Another job

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It would probably never happen. I think in order for me to move into that level 
I would first have to go run a market like Dallas or Houston first.

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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 12:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Same or close pay? Why would you even consider it? Higher cost of living,
> nasty crowded place, and how would you move your life time collection of
> classic MBs?
> 
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would
>> have to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas,
>> Georgia. Wonder where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another job

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Same or close pay? Why would you even consider it? Higher cost of living,
nasty crowded place, and how would you move your life time collection of
classic MBs?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Another regional manager job just opened up, this time east coast. Would
> have to live in  Florida, along the east coast up to the Carolinas,
> Georgia. Wonder where is the best place an okie like myself would fit in.
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

The cost sounds pretty high. How old are the applicants? Kids tend to cost a 
bunch to service. Same as old folks. I pay $1800 per annum for 24/7 365 
service. 

Docs have a select number of clients so they can provide adequate care. The 
healthy do cover the sicker clients. But the fee also covers all in house 
testing in my case. My group has radiology, lab, cardiac, and all procedures 
are on the house. No nickel and dime crap with billing, its covered. I need a 
bone set and cast, on the house. I think they just purchased a MRI. 

My doc used to be standard practice, then moved in house because he could not 
afford the overhead of inso and paperwork employees. Now he can afford to 
continue being a doctor and provides great service. 

clay 

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From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:49:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires 

Wow. Looks sort of shady in a way. 

>From what I could glean, you're expected or commit to pay a monthly amount 
>into a bank account you give power of attorney to the group to. They can then 
>take the funds you deposit and use them to pay other member's medical bills. 

You are a recipient of said payments for your medical bills as well. 

If I'm relatively healthy, I get screwed because I'm covering all the sick 
people's bills. A family of three or more is expected to pay in nearly 
$900/month. Ouch. 

Dan 

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On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote: 

>> We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice. 
>> 
>> The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
>> but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
>> monthly if not more often. 
>> 
>> After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
>> fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially 
>> pay out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she 
>> needed, and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to 
>> the doctor not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent. 
>> 
>> We'll see. We're still researching this. 
>> 
>> Dan 
>> 
>> Sent from my MBPad 
> 
> 
> There is also medishare. It seems like a good concept, but the materials are 
> confusing about costs and payments into the system. 
> 
> mychristiancare.org/medi-share/ 
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Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

+1 

Go for it. I have been using this service for a decade and it rocks. 

My group uses age based fee structure because old folks have more issues. You 
still need normal coverage to deal with outside providers and hospital work. 

The positive is that you get service really fast and there is no rush to 
process you out of the room. My doc takes lots of time to talk things over, 
discuss options fully, and knows my issues fully. Not getting passed around to 
the bullpen. I call and get seen in 24 hours. He has full records of his work, 
instead of having to interpret what some other medico performed. 

clay 

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From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:56:25 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hillarycare. was: Barum Tires 

We are looking seriously at a "concierge" physician practice. 

The wife has multiple medical issues, none life threatening, thank goodness, 
but a number that are chronic and require her to see a doctor or doctors 
monthly if not more often. 

After looking at what we pay out in deductibles, it's approaching the annual 
fee of a concierge physician's service. In this case we would essentially pay 
out the lump sum annually and she could see them as many times as she needed, 
and also (hopefully) get a higher level or quality of care due to the doctor 
not having to run a conveyor belt practice to stay solvent. 

We'll see. We're still researching this. 

Dan 

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote: 

>> Gerry sez: If Obamacare becomes Hillarycare, we're in trouble. 
>> ~~~ 
>> Meade Dillon wrote: 
>> .. Reminds me of the joke medical terminology list that went around in 
>> the 90's when Hillary! was trying to "fix" healthcare in secret: Definition 
>> of 
>>> Rectum: Darn near killed'em! 
>>> Max 
>> > Charleston SC 
>> > 
> 
> Uh, If obunglercare sticks around, we are in trouble. 
> 
> Fortunately, some docs are setting up private practice, no Ins. For those who 
> can afford it, this is the way to go. 
> 
> Anyone who would sign up for a larger and more corrupt form of VA healthcare 
> is insane. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Binder clips

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SWMBO is going to love this.  She is forever tying up cords.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbBwX3mDQNE
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[MBZ] OT Mac troubles fixed?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I *think* I finally have this imac working which is quite strange. About 
a week ago I was trying to install OSX 10.6(.4) on the SSD, having 
installed it on the HDD and then done a time machine backup. The thing 
kept locking up on me.  I thought I would try to install it on the SSD 
and use that, see if the machine worked OK, i.e., rule out some hardware 
issue and see if it was something to do with the install on the HDD and 
TM backup reinstall.


I kinda forgot about and came back this aft and it was still on but 
asleep (I forgot to turn it off) and stuck on the OSX install.  I 
rebooted and tried again, and it worked -- was actually pretty quick to 
get OSX 10.6(.4) installed on the SSD which was encouraging.  So it 
rebooted and ran fine.  I installed the extra apps, that went fine (you 
have to tell the machine it is 2010 though) and pretty quick.  I have 
10.6.8 on a flash drive so went ahead and installed that, it was quick 
too.  Machine seems to work fine from the SSD now.


So, what the hell I rebooted from the HDD and that went fine. h.  So 
I figured I would try to do the 10.6.8 and that went fine.  h.  
Machine seems to be working fine.  Very weird after all the issues I 
had.  I guess I will use it a bit and see if it continues to work.  I 
have no idea why all the sudden it just started working OK unless there 
is some issue related to heat on the mobo or something, which was the 
indication on the HDD when all the problems started.  That HDD has been 
running in an external box OK though.


In any case the new HDD is faster to boot and open apps, and the SSD is 
really fast.  Now I guess I need to do the swapping around to trick the 
SSD as the boot drive and then all the other stuff on the HDD.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Rich

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I feel REALLY left out.  Care to expatiate?

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> Landed!
>
> Western Union will be activated for Fred and Curt
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> On 2/3/16 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
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>> The eagle is in flight.
>> -Curt
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